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LetoThe2ndyo dudX07:33
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vijayCan I update my yocto dunfell version to the latest one? If yes, how?07:34
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vijayJust replacing the current poky directory with the latest one will work?07:44
LetoThe2ndvijay: usually one has git cloned poky, and just does a pull then.07:49
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vijayLetoThe2nd Got it, thank you.07:51
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dwagenkGood Morning! Is there any mechanism in KAS to archive/snapshot all used layers? Similar to how I set BB_GENERATE_MIRROR_TARBALLS to have a snapshot of all the sources used for a build?08:38
dwagenkI guess `kas for-all-repos [...]` can be utilized to archieve this, but It seems like this is a common use case and there might be a ready-to-use solution out there, that I've just not found yet.08:38
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angelo__gm, on zeus, bitnbake is building an out of tree module, but using local host headers. How can i force to use proper kernel headers version ?08:42
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qschulzangelo__: by fixing the include paths? make sure variables passed by Yocto to the oot driver's Makefile are not overridden in the latter.09:06
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angelo__qschulz, thanks09:17
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LetoThe2nddwagenk: snapshotting is usually done on build level, rather than setup level as far as i can tell.09:19
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dwagenkMy fokus is on having everything available to reproduce a certain Image years later. Having the DL_DIR archived and my own custom layer only get's me partway if an external layer is not available online anymore. So that's my reasoning for trying to snapshot all layers (and document what kind of host system or container was used for the build). Could you elaborate on the 'snapshotting at the build level' a little more? Thx!09:29
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LetoThe2nddwagenk: the rationale is completely clear to me, no worries. but i'm not certain that the approach is really the best way. generally, my elaboration is: look at the sections on license compliance in the manual, they give a lot of information on archiving the sources and metadata.09:35
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dl9pfRP: you mean a map for SSTATE_MIRRORS or changing the UNINATIVE_URL ?09:45
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qschulzdwagenk: just mirror all layers in your internal git repo?09:53
dwagenkLetoThe2nd: The section providing-compilation-scripts-and-source-code-modifications is pretty close to what I'm looking for, but tailored towards the "provide sources+meta for external use", whilst I don't see it fit for "backup everything needed to reproduce the build or restart development for internal use". Since both are steps that should be done at every release I guessed it might be more tightly integrated.09:55
qschulzs/repo/server/. basically one additional repo per layer you're using09:56
LetoThe2nddwagenk: well i personally would got with qschulz' suggestion anyways - mirror the stuff you want, and the kas config keeps the revision hashes to select. this makes it way easier to actually work with stuff later, instead of just having a humonguous tarball that you can bdil but not really use to maintain things. because rebuilding a couple of years later is usually done for a reason (fixes, modifications) and not09:58
LetoThe2ndjust for fun (hey, lets build this to see if we can build it!)09:58
dwagenkqschulz: yes, That's one of the common approaches I've seen. Definitely better than just archiving the flat file structure.09:59
RPdl9pf: map for SSTATE_MIRRORS, changing the URL should be straightforward09:59
LetoThe2nddwagenk then why did you ask about saving the flat file structure?10:00
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dwagenkIt's a common task, so having to redo the (minimal) tooling around it every time feels a little redundant. Thus that's something I felt like it could be more tightly integrated to the layer-management. E.g. adding a global or per-repo configuration option in KAS for "mirror-to" that ensures the used refspec is present on the internal mirror and pushes or warns if it is not.10:05
dwagenkThanks btw. for the detailed conversation here!10:05
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LetoThe2nddwagenk: humm... send patches to the kas folks? ;) sounds like a neat idea to me.10:10
dwagenkSorry, was not completely clear there (archiving/snapshotting), actually both can be useful, depending on the use case IMHO, but the flat-file snapshot is documented already, right.10:17
dwagenk> humm... send patches to the kas folks? ;) sounds like a neat idea to me.10:18
dwagenkIt's on my list now. In general polishing the pre-release workflow and taking a look into what fits in where and could be contributed back.10:18
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LetoThe2nddwagenk: \o/10:32
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* LetoThe2nd needs moar coffee, has budgetary presentation for new build server in a few!11:59
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RPpaulg: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1689612:23
* RP suspects this is like pouring petrol on a fire :/12:25
LetoThe2ndRP: kab00m!12:28
qschulzRP: well, he clearly does not want it :) but "update your kernel to not see this message" is mmm...12:28
qschulzlike people update their kernel, it's one of the last things that get updated12:29
qschulz(the last being probably anything prior to the kernel in the boot process)12:29
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marexqschulz: I update my bootloader and kernel all the time :)13:57
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qschulzmarex: by people I meant companies :)14:04
marexqschulz: I can name a few :)14:05
marexqschulz: btw the trick is to have AB update option all the way to the BootROM14:05
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tlwoernerlinux-yocto-dev module build seems to fail with gcc-10.x14:18
marextlwoerner: with what error ?14:19
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tlwoernermarex: | /z/build-master/meta-rockchip/build/tmp-glibc/work-shared/roc-rk3328-cc/kernel-source/crypto/aegis128-neon-inner.c:150:3: error: incompatible types when initializing type 'unsigned char' using type 'uint8x16_t'14:21
marextlwoerner: what kernel version is that ?14:22
marextlwoerner: I've been building 5.10 and 5.4 (latest stable) with debian 5.10 on both arm32 and arm64 just fine14:22
marexhmmmm, next too btw14:22
tlwoerneryes, linux-yocto builds fine for me14:23
marextlwoerner: the above seems part of kernel crypto (i.e. something which depends on arm64 neon?)14:23
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tlwoernermarex: the rk3328 is 4xA53 with crypto14:23
tlwoerneri pulled the defconfig from what armbian is using14:24
tlwoernerit builds fine if i use (for example) the linaro 8 toolchain14:25
tlwoernergcc 10 is pickier on types i guess14:25
marextlwoerner: did you try compiling it out of OE with gcc 10 ?14:26
tlwoernermarex: good idea, i hadn't thought of that14:26
marexI can try it on some arm64 right now14:27
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marextlwoerner: seems to build fine for latest next14:30
paulgRP, isnt that the same link I put in the patch?14:31
tlwoernermarex: i'm guessing my non standard defconfig might be the cause (?)14:32
dekrieaHi everyone, since switching to gatesgarth I get these sigaborts as described here (https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Pseudo_Abort). The inode mismatches seem to come from using a docker container (crops/poky) for my builds. Did anyone here have this problem before and perhaps found a fix?14:33
marextlwoerner: well, does it compile out of OE ? :)14:33
marexwith the same defconfig that is14:33
RPpaulg: yes, its just updated a bit. I've tweaked the patch as requested in review and sent it upstream14:34
paulgoh - ok -- I didn't read to the bottom - let me do that.14:34
paulgyou are a braver man than me - I thought about sharing it there, so other poor sods could make use of it, even if Captain Systemd didn't agree.14:35
paulgIn the end I decided I didn't need the drama of as you say - more gas on the fire.14:36
RPpaulg: I think we do need to push the YP perspective a little now and again14:36
paulgYep - can't argue that.   I'm happy to hide behind the hedge and eat popcorn and watch.  ;-)14:37
* paulg thinks RP just did a "Here, hold my beer..." moment. :-P14:38
RPpaulg: Just thought you might want to see where it goes :)14:38
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paulgtotally!    Especially since my fingerprints aren't anywhere to be seen.14:42
JPEWRP: Fixed the acpica repro issue.... was a little more involved than I expected (had to make another bison fix)14:43
* JPEW is so cold.... I should move my servers below my desk and use them as a space heater14:44
JPEWExcept I shut them off to be nice to the electric grid in hopes I can avoid a rolling blackout14:45
* tlwoerner it always in shorts14:45
tlwoernerthe neighbours think it's hilarious that i go outside in shorts all winter long to throw wood in the boiler, even at -20°C14:47
wmattlwoerner: how do you like the wood boiler?14:48
tlwoernerwmat: *love* it!14:48
wmattlwoerner: bought a camp in the north and am considering one14:48
tlwoernerwood is virtually free, and i get free domestic hot water from it too14:48
wmatI thought you were in the city for some reason14:49
tlwoernerthe pumps take next to no electricity, so even if we get a 3-day power outtage in the middle of winter, we're still at 26°C inside with hot showers :-D14:49
tlwoerner(on our backup generator)14:49
tlwoernerwmat: we live on a 30-acre horse farm just outside Tottenham14:50
tlwoernerwmat: i moved out of the city almost 17 years ago and wouldn't want to have to go back ;-)14:51
tlwoerneroops 1414:51
tlwoernerwmat: your usage of the word "camp" implies you're not from the GTA originally, i've noticed people who grew up north of Barrie tend to use that word instead of "cottage"14:53
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wmattlwoerner: cottage just sounds so pretentious ;)14:57
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wmatbut yes, I grew up in northern ontario14:57
tlwoernerwmat: cool. my wife grew up in the Sudbury area14:58
wmattlwoerner: I was west of there in Elliot Lake14:58
frayif you were in Minnesota, it's a Cabin.. :)14:59
fraycould be a completely modern house, but if it's in the north of the state, it's a Cabin.. :)14:59
tlwoernercabin sounds nice. "camp" is that place your parents sent you as a kid during the summer ;-)14:59
frayand yes, cottage would be pretentious to say around here..14:59
fraytlwoerner yup15:00
wmatregional colloquialisms are interesting15:00
RPJPEW: cool, thanks. I worked out a few repro issues and sent them so hoping we can improve the stats a bit!15:01
tlwoernerto me a camp is something you visit once every couple years and is most likely run down, like maybe a hunting camp15:01
frayI'm guessing it has to do with what people originally did in the area..  Northern MN is called "Cabin country" here.. cause the rich would buy land up in the woods (that was more or less un-inhabitable), but a get away for the weekend, but never live there..15:01
RPJPEW: power issues sound awful :(15:01
frayand most were just that, log cabins originally15:01
tlwoernerbut cottage is the place you visit most weekends and keep up15:01
fraytlwoerner ya, that is the image I have.. but originally it probably did come from 'hunting camp'15:01
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tlwoernerif you have cable tv, or one of the ott streaming services, there's a channel called "cottage life", and a magazine of the same name too15:02
frayto me cottage is a second home, that is used 'regularly'.. i.e. "ohh so you can afford TWO expensive homes"15:02
fraycottage is also (to me) a very east coast term15:03
paulgcottage to me is a giant sack of extra maintenance.15:04
tlwoernerpaulg: haha, true. not to mention the traffic up and back15:04
fraylol, they all are.. :)15:04
tlwoerner…as the entire metropolitan populate tries to get up and back before monday15:05
wmattlwoerner: I cut through the back roads and pop out on HWY400 north of Barrie, it works out perfect15:05
frayya, part of the reason I've never bothered getting a 'cabin'.  I'd love to have land and woods up north -- but the commute makes me not want to do that15:05
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fray(the part of Northern MN I'm talking about is basically all lakes and woods..  population density is VERY low most of the year..)15:06
wmatI count on that to keep the masses down south15:06
frayand a LOT of the cabins are three season, but need to be winterized..15:06
tlwoernerwmat: my family had a cottage just south of Parry Sound for ~20 years when i was younger. when my dad retired they bought one of the business on the lake and ran a cottages/campground for a couple years15:06
wmattlwoerner: nice15:07
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tlwoerneri like to believe my farm is the best of both worlds ;-)15:07
wmateven that area is too crowded for me15:07
tlwoerneri could commute to Toronto if i had to, but i'm not in the city15:07
fraytlwoerner same.. I have my 20 acres.. and endless maintenance15:07
tlwoerneri'm just not on a lake15:08
frayand as of 2 weeks ago.. fiber to the home15:08
frayI have to keep reminding myself, lake in MN = mosqitos..15:08
LetoThe2ndyo folks, are you planning your holidays or what?15:08
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tlwoernerfray: yea, i saw that! me too. i got connected Feb 1st15:08
RPfray: sounds like Scotland (midges) :)15:08
frayRP, ya I've heard htat15:08
tlwoernerRP: do midges bite?15:09
LetoThe2ndfray: just got ~15k€ budget for 2xepyc 7702 build machine approved. yay me!15:09
wmatgood trout bait15:09
tlwoernerLetoThe2nd: nice!15:09
wmatLetoThe2nd: can we all share it? ;)15:09
frayLetoThe2nd NICE..15:09
RPtlwoerner: er, yes. Horribly. We get them in the forests even in northern England where I am15:10
frayI'm just waiting to be able to afford a large threadripper for myself15:10
tlwoernerfray: i was going to poke fun at you because you went from … 30(?)Mbps to 1000? heck, i would have killed for 30Mbps15:10
tlwoernerRP: ouch, not fun15:10
frayI was "this close" to ordering starlink when they finally tuned on Fiber15:11
RPtlwoerner: they're the main reason I've not been to Scotland as much as I could have when younger, my parents hate them15:11
LetoThe2ndfray: plus 6TB on pcie nvme15:11
fray30/3 was bad..  1000/1000 is NO PROBLEM (other hten cost)15:11
* LetoThe2nd celebrates.15:11
* paulg wonders if midges are like blackflies or sandflies.15:11
RPtlwoerner: having experienced them, I can understand it15:11
tlwoernermosquitoes love me. once my wife and i were walking in the woods and i was complaining about all the mosquitoes. she turned to say "stop complaining" and noticed the *cloud* i had around me (and the none that were around her) lol15:11
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frayRP does DEET or similar prevent swarming//bites?15:11
wmatRP: midges sound horrible.  Much like our Black Flies in Canada but for a lot longer period of time.15:11
RPLetoThe2nd: yay, crazy build systems are cool15:12
LetoThe2ndRP: s/crazy/properly powered/g15:12
RPfray: kind of, not entirely15:12
tlwoernerfray: for the last 7 years i've had 3Mbps down and only .7 up, getting fibre was unbelievable15:12
RPwmat: they're there April to October, yes :/15:13
tlwoernerfray: i went with the smallest package: 100Mbps, which i can't even imagining wouldn't be enough (haha)15:13
fraytlwoerner sounds like my neighbor.. was getting just under 30 down, and .5 up15:13
fray(he just built the house in August)15:13
fraySo he called the ISP and got a radio link setup.. 40/20 is what he gets over that.. 40-60ms latency15:13
georgem_home1000/1000 fiber sure is nice. I can transfer target images from my build server to home faster than I can copy them to the target :)15:13
frayhe asked about latency on the fiber.. I said "4-6"15:14
frayto be fair 100/20 was the minimum I wanted.. ($100 a month)  100/50 was $150,  100/100 was $200, and 1G/1G was $30015:14
tlwoernerfray: i was getting an order of magnitude less, *3* down, not 30 (lol)15:14
fraymy parents (in the city) were getting similar.. 3 down/.5 up..  $100 a month..15:15
frayfinally moved htem to cable internet.. 200/10 now15:15
fraymy plan though for the 1G/1G is to close my local office and move the computers here, but I need to finish building the office in the basement..15:15
tlwoerneri never though in my lifetime that i'd see fibre to the farm15:16
georgem_home200/10 was what I had with Spectrum before I moved into Google Fiber territory.15:16
fray(I just moved the second laundry area from where the office is, to under my stairs over the weekend.. more work then I was originally expecting for sure)15:16
tlwoernergeorgem_home: you make it sound like you moved for the Internet (lol)15:16
frayand first time I've done drain/waste/vent changes of this magnitude15:16
georgem_hometlwoerner: it was certainly a factor other things being equal :)15:16
fraygeorgem_home lol my parents have Spectrum..15:17
georgem_homefray: yeah. I guessed by the 200/10 speed15:17
frayI figure the fiber to my house ("free" other then service cost) probably added $10k or more to the value of my house15:17
tlwoernerfray: i just call someone. it stops being worth my time very quickly :-)15:17
fraylocal phone company installed 48 fibers down the street, and 4 fibers to each home.. (there are only 12 homes in about 2 miles..)15:18
frayI found out, apparently wood shipments from Canada are stopped or way down..  _4_ pressure treated 2x4s..  $4515:18
tlwoernerwe're out of lumber up here as it is15:18
fray(I had to resupport the stairs, the supports were hanging about 1 inch ABOVE the concrete floor..15:18
frayhad rotted out over the last 130 or so years.. they were nailed to the block walls.. but that isn't really 'right'15:19
tlwoernerit was the second thing we ran out of (after toiler paper, another wood product)15:19
frayI'm strongly considering building my basement office space with metal studs due to cost.. my only worry, I've never used them before and I wasn't planning to 'learn a new tech' along the way15:20
fray(basement office == server lab and partial maker lab)15:20
tlwoernerit's as if they know we'll all be staying home for the foreseeable future… (cue dramatic music, lol)15:20
paulgfray, get yer own damn trees and leave us alone.  ;-)15:21
zeddiiwill trade trees for vaccines.15:21
tlwoerneroh geez, don't get started on *that* one15:21
zeddiiotherwise, we're keeping the door locked for even longer :D15:21
* zeddii runs15:22
tlwoernerlar thudering j* murphy...15:22
* tlwoerner didn't want to spell it all out15:22
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wertigonQuick question; if I want to do post-processing removal of a file in the rootfs, isn't it just to do:15:28
wertigonremove-command() {15:28
wertigon   rm -r ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/path/to/thefile.txt15:29
wertigonROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND += "remove-command;"15:29
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wertigonin image recipie?15:29
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qschulznot sure functions can have dashes in their name15:37
wertigonlet's try snake_case then :)15:41
wertigonHmm, might've actually been it15:44
wertigonLooks like it's building atleast, now I just gotta confirm it works15:47
wertigonAww... dammit15:51
LetoThe2ndwhy doesn anybody put files in images that samebody does not want to be there?15:53
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wertigonLetoThe2nd: More like, we have an image, and a recipe that creates said files, but I want to disable autostart for one file in particular15:57
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LetoThe2ndwertigon: append said image to disable said autostart :)15:57
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wertigonLetoThe2nd: you can do that with systemd?15:58
wertigonI have a systemd service I want to NOT start15:58
LetoThe2ndmeh, "append said recipe". thats what i meant. sure, why should the systemd recipe be special?15:58
wertigonLetoThe2nd: I have two images though15:59
wertigonOne regular one, where I want the service to autostart15:59
wertigonOne where I don't15:59
wertigonFor testing purposes15:59
wertigonBut I still want to be able to call systemctl start service16:00
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wertigonI thought "Great I'll just remove /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/my-service.service"16:03
wertigonBut that file is still around after I do that16:03
LetoThe2ndwell then sprinkle bb notes (orwhatsitcalled) to find out why it doesn't work16:05
wertigonI'm suspecting systemd wants tree generator is called again as a post-post-processing16:06
wertigonTesting removing the WantedBy from the service itself then :)16:07
wertigonIf I'm right, it will remove that16:07
wertigonOtherwise I'll remove the service completely - not optimal, but gets the job done atleast16:08
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wertigonThanks for the help :)16:10
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marble_visionshello #yocto! I am running petalinux, but I think the question stands for plain yocto as well. I want my image recipe to also create FIT images containing a kernel, dtb, and rootfs. Since the kernel and dtb binaries are produced by virtual/kernel (linux-xlnx), I need to wait for those recipes to deploy in order to start building the fit image.  I have a task e.g. do_generate_fitimage, and do_generate_fitimage[depends] += "virtual/kernel:d16:24
marble_visionso_deploy", and IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND += " do_generate_fitimage;  ". But the image recipe does not honor this dependency and runs do_generate_fitimage too early. What am I doing wrong?16:24
qschulzmarble_visions: how do you know it runs too early?16:26
marble_visionsqschulz: since files in ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE} are not populated when the task runs16:27
marble_visionsif I first run bitbake -c linux-xlnx, and then bitbake -c my-image, all is good. if I run only bitbake -c my-image (which should figure out the kernel dependency) it says files are missing.16:29
fraywhich files are missing?16:29
frayand do you have the kernel set to point to linux-xlnx in your configuration?16:29
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frayPREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ??= "linux-xlnx"16:30
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frayyou can do bitbake my-image -e   and then inspect the variables for PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel to check16:31
marble_visionsfray: I will doublecheck, but I think petalinux should have taken care of this. thanks for the suggestion16:31
frayare you using petalinux's "eSDK" and/or direct interfaces?  petalinux <command ....> ?   If so, yes it should be doing all of that16:31
marble_visionsI am using petalinux <command>'s16:32
marble_visionsso in reality I am entering verbatim petalinux-build -c my-image16:32
marble_visionsand petalinux-build -c linux-xlnx16:32
frayOk, then I'd suggest you check Xilinx's forums..  I don't think many of us here have even used petalinux-build..  (I've used it a few times, but I'm not experienced enough to help diagnose this.. sorry)16:33
fraypetalinux-build is a wrapper on the regular bitbake behaviors.  (Some things are just 'pass through', in that it sources the eSDK environment for you, and runs a bitbake command.. but other things actually do a variety of commands..16:34
marble_visionswill have a look in the xlnx forums again as well. I was wondering if maybe this was bitbake-rooted16:34
fraythe petalinux-build -c linux-xlnx _SHOULD_ just be sourcing the environment, and then running bitbake linux-xlnx ... but I've not verified that16:34
frayunfortunately I don't have any petalinux installs handy, or I could figure out exactly what to source so you could run the bitbake command directly for verification16:35
fray(The Yocto Project eSDK documentation migth tell you..)  Basically petalinux is an eSDK that has a wrapper.  It can either be used via the wrapper, or you can go into the eSDK and follow the YP steps to work on it that way.. I just don't remember the steps.. sorry)16:36
fray(full disclosure, I work for Xilinx in their Yocto Project group -- but I don't use petalinux very often)16:36
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marble_visionsfray: nice16:37
marble_visionsi have the lines written down somewhere16:37
marble_visionsso that I can drop to a yocto env and run bitbake directly16:38
frayya, if you do that and 'bitbake my-image' shows the same behavior.. use the bitbake my-image -e to verify the virtual I mentioned.. should point to linux-xlxn..  assuming ti doesn, then I'm not sure what is wrong..16:39
fraywhich files does it say are missing?16:39
fraythere are some bootbin related files that don't always get regenerated if your tmp directory is reset.. (known issue)16:40
marble_visionsDTBs I am installing from a linux_xlnx_deploy_append, and the kernel fitimage files16:40
frayit's possible it's related to this, but I'm not sure.  I don't do a lot with the actual deploy/fitimage files..  (I mostly do builds, compilers and userspace integration)16:41
marble_visionsokay, the things you mentions we're great to get me going again. thanks! :)16:41
marble_visionsbtw, is your team, or Xilinx in general... do you know if there is effort into making a setup that supports multiple vivado exports into one petalinux project?16:43
frayAt present, I'm not aware of anything like that.16:43
frayThe current workflow uses XSCT (which is a command line version of part of vivado) to process things, so it SHOULD be possible..16:43
marble_visionsso petalinux includes XSCT, reads the vivado database export, and runs from there?16:44
fraywe're working to eliminate the need for xsct and allow vivado to directly export everything that is required.. then YP (and probably petalinux) workflows can just use an input file per configuration..16:44
marble_visionsbut it would be an intermediary conf file, right? vivado won't export machine meta- layers?16:45
fraymarble_visions more or less yes..  the HDF/XSA (or whatever it's called) export from Vivado is interpreted by XSCT to give the build the settings it needs for whatever step...16:46
fray(I don't know when we're going to have this new workflow, but we're actively working on it)16:46
frayyes.. vivado itself doesn't know anything aobut Yocto Project and related..16:46
marble_visionsgood to know!16:48
frayBasically today (AFAIK) it's Vivado -> vivado hardwre model --  then XSCT reads this model and does whatever it needs..16:48
frayin the future we hope it'll be Vivdo -> DTB + hardware model ... then the DTB can be directly processed and a YP config generated16:48
frayso it's still separate, but it won't require XSCT..16:49
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marble_visionsdefinitely a step in the right direction.. is the hardware model used in Yocto, or it gets passed to other departments?16:51
marble_visionsmaybe you'd need it for uboot and fsbl configuration?16:51
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intera91afternoon, building from inside a docker image I have the following error: Please use a locale setting which supports UTF-8 (such as LANG=en_US.UTF-8).17:00
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marble_visionsfray: qschulz: yep, can confirm that running the bitbake enviroment, the issue still exists, and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel="linux-xlnx"17:08
marble_visionsI should create a minimal reproducible example..17:08
fraythe only other thing to try..  bitbake -c clean linux-xlnx  -- then re-run the my-image.. if the problem goes away.  Thens omething being done in the linux-xlnx is not being cached properly17:08
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marble_visionsfray: hmm.. does it matter that do_generate_fitimage (and it's [depends]+=...) lives inside a bbclas that my-image inherits? can that get in the way of dependecy resolution?17:18
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frayit might, I'm not really familiar with that part17:20
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marble_visionsokay, I will add everything to the my-image recipe17:27
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qschulzdoes IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND functions actually have depends support?17:45
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fraynot directly17:46
marble_visionsgood question.. I didn't think it wouldn't have. would and alternative be to use "add task before .. after .." ?17:46
qschulzmarble_visions: yup17:46
frayif you add IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMANd, you need to also specify the dependencies manually..17:46
qschulzor, put the dependency on the task taking care of postprocess_command17:46
fray(I'm forgetting how, but I've had to do it in the past)17:46
marble_visionswooow, okay, let me finish this build and will switch to check if it succeeds17:47
qschulzdo_image_complete is the task taking care of said variable17:47
frayso like do_image_compiled[depends] += "<recipe>:do_deploy" ?17:48
frayor just DEPENDS_append_pn-my-image = " recipe1"17:48
fray(depends on if it's something being run, or data being needed from a do_deploy)17:49
qschulzvery quickly read the code and it does not seem to fulfill [depends] varflags17:50
qschulzfray: DEPENDS is a bad idea for something you need after deploy task has run17:50
qschulzbecause there is no guarantee deploy will run before your DEPENDS is resolved17:50
frayyes.. DEPENDS is needed if you are running a command provided by a native..  deploy is needed if you are using a deployed item17:51
qschulzand also, it populates the sysroot of the recipe for no reason17:51
frayya, the sysroot is why you'd want it in depends17:51
qschulzfray: my bad, read too quickly. absolutely, it should be only native recipe17:51
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qschulzrecipes* in DEPENDS of an image recipe... and... there might even be better variables (I think there are some specific ones when they are related to a certain IMAGE_FSTYPE for exampole17:52
qschulzfray | so like do_image_compiled[depends] += "<recipe>:do_deploy" ?17:52
qschulzyes ^17:52
qschulz(without the typo :) )17:52
frayya, that's what I've done for deployed bits in the past17:53
frayi.e. I need a firmware that is in do_deploy, and my processing code moves or configures it in some way17:53
qschulzfray: mmmmmm17:54
qschulzfor machine specific firmware... it should be in EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS17:54
qschulzI think?17:54
qschulzToo late, my brain is fried :)17:54
qschulzgood luck and have a nice day/evening17:54
marble_visionsqschulz: wait!17:55
marble_visionsyou are being owed one beer :)17:55
marble_visionsfray: you too17:55
marble_visionsif you guys drink, that is17:55
frayha.. no problem17:55
marble_visionsI think deps are now being picked up with the addtask mechanism.. waiting for the build to finish to confirm17:56
fraythe only time I've ever had water where I'm building the office is when the lock wall (where the laundry is) completely filled with water.. once I drilled those drain holes, no more water on the other side of the wall..18:04
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dl9pfRP: ^^^   core-image-minimal18:05
dl9pfon dunfell18:06
RPdl9pf: nice. If you send a patch enabling rpm I can enable on the autobuilder18:08
RPdl9pf: we can test there and confirm with world18:08
RP(for master)18:08
RPdl9pf: I'm surprised, I though it was not enabled for a reason!18:09
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dl9pfi just changed package_classes to rpm and images to core-image-minimal   to start18:10
marble_visionsfray: qschulz: got it to work! woohoo!18:11
RPdl9pf: we already know the package contents is ok so if the rpm side works, its worth wider testing with the full config on the autobuilder18:11
marble_visionsso I'll keep that in mind, rule of thumb, use addtask18:11
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RPjonmason: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/113/builds/728 - breaks in the release build! :/19:08
RP(its gatesgarth)19:08
jonmasonRP: on it.  Is there a bug I need to worry about?19:10
RPjonmason: swat isn't up to it yet19:11
RPjonmason: this was the 3.2.2 build but I'm assuming it would be a meta-arm fix and the main release is ok?19:12
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jonmasonyes, I'm assuming there is a bug with something not applying cleanly19:12
jonmasontrying to replicate locally to confirm19:12
jonmasonactually, i think it is running master meta-arm on gatesgarth, which we don't test.  Probably better to drop that from compat19:16
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moto-timoJPEW: I rebuilt the image (meta-python-ptest-image) with IMAGE_FSTYPES wic.qcow2 and tried to launch it with VirtManager. It hung on /dev/sda1 systemd task19:42
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moto-timoJPEW: and the prior attempt I was using virtio bus for the disk with core-image-minimal from dl.yp.org 3.2.119:51
moto-timoJPEW: which worked19:51
moto-timoJPEW: https://gist.github.com/moto-timo/27e39256ce3aad4da7b8ac0e0273d4fc19:52
moto-timoJPEW: I've been playing around with disk size and memory (and most recently bus)19:52
moto-timoJPEW: with 'runqemu kvm nographic slirp' the image boots fine, so it's something about the VM environment I think19:57
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JPEWmoto-timo: Ya, sounds like it19:58
JPEWI forget why you're wanting to run in KubeVirt instead of qemu+kvm?19:59
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moto-timoUltimately, kubernetes native/cloud native in a real cloud.20:03
moto-timoAnd to be honest, I haven't completely grasped your workflow.20:04
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moto-timoIs there a way to get the command line runqemu would run without actually running it?20:10
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JPEWmoto-timo: I think so? But honestly I'm not even using runqemu, I just let labgrid run the system QEMU: https://github.com/JPEWdev/yocto-doom-demo/blob/main/ci/qemux86-64/env.yaml20:17
JPEWI think runqemu would work just a well though20:18
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tlwoernerrburton: do the outreachy projects have a scheduled end date?20:28
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moto-timotlwoerner: March, although extensions are possible20:45
vdlhi all -- I still cannot build systemd with PACKAGECONFIG_append = " importd"20:45
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tlwoernermoto-timo: there you are, i just looked for your nic and didn't find it :-)20:46
vdlsystemd compilation fails with "Run-time dependency {libapparmor,glib-2.0,gobject-2.0,gio-2.0} found: NO (tried pkgconfig and cmake)"20:46
tlwoernermoto-timo: if we do have a YP event, it would be nice if one or more of the outreachy participants could present their work20:47
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moto-timo vdl: are you setting PACKAGECONFIG append in your local.conf? You need to specify the package name (pn) which is being appended: PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-qemu = " <feature>"20:47
moto-timovdl: note the syntax (the underscores are important, the space after the first " is important)20:48
vdlmoto-timo: oops sorry bad copying, I'm using PACKAGECONFIG_append_pn-systemd = " curl xz zlib bzip2 gcrypt importd" from my distro conf.20:49
moto-timovdl: so your error is telling you that you are missing RDEPENDS... use bitbake -e systemd and grep for ^RDEPENDS20:50
moto-timovdl: otherwise, there might be another error that one of those dependencies cannot build for some reason.20:50
* vdl is typing...20:50
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moto-timovdl: but since you are giving us the compile log for systemd, I suspect you need to add DEPENDS/RDEPENDS20:51
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vdlmoto-timo: there you go: http://ix.io/2PFe20:53
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moto-timomy browser blocks that url20:54
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vdlmoto-timo: RDEPENDS_systemd=" kmod dbus util-linux-mount util-linux-umount udev (= 1:244.5-r0) util-linux-agetty util-linux-fsck systemd-serialgetty volatile-binds ldconfig libnss-myhostname update-rc.d systemd-vconsole-setup"20:55
vdlmoto-timo: I've added all of these packages to IMAGE_INSTALL_append but I still get the same failure20:59
moto-timovdl: you need it at build time, I suspect, so you need to bbappend systemd recipe with DEPENDS21:01
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vdlmoto-timo: all these systemd "Run-time dependencies" are glib I think. Is there such package in yocto?21:04
vdlI can try to monkey patch poky's systemd recipe21:04
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vdlI don't see what provides glib and libapparmor21:06
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moto-timovdl: please use layers.openembedded.org and search recipes... help yourself :)21:10
moto-timovdl: also, oe-pkgdata-util is handy for finding out what files are in what package http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/scripts/oe-pkgdata-util21:12
vdlmoto-timo: I didn't know layers.openembedded.org could search recipes, thank you. glib-2.0 found in openembedded-core ;-)21:22
moto-timovdl: happy to point you at one of my daily tools :)21:23
moto-timovdl: I also sometimes just sit with my iPad and roam cgit repos...21:23
moto-timobut that's a slow meandering path vs. a real search21:24
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vdlmoto-timo: iPad Oriented Development, eh? :D21:28
vdlmoto-timo: stupid question, "openembedded-core" is poky/meta, right?21:30
moto-timovdl: correct21:36
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moto-timovdl: combo-layer stitches it into poky and makes it look like poky/meta (and poky/scripts)21:36
moto-timovdl: that's also how bitbake gets into poky/21:36
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rburtonvdl: the key point is that poky is just a convenience repo that is bitbake + openembedded-core + meta-yocto all glued together21:44
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moto-timorburton: simplifies what I say yet again :)21:47
* moto-timo blames 5 hours of sleep21:47
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vdlrburton: that's very confusing in fact ^^. I'd expect just a meta-poky distro layer and that's it. I'd make sense for such glued-together repo to be named "yocto" if such thing should exist21:52
rburtonit definitely should not be called yocto21:52
rburtonthats one of the things it should not be called21:53
rburtonbecause its an example21:53
rburtonthe poky distro is just one way of glueing the bits together into something that works21:53
moto-timothe reference distro is poky, not yocto21:53
vdlyep, poky's a distro, hence a standalone meta-poky layer would make sense21:54
rburtonhttp://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-yocto/ <-- that?21:54
rburtonbring your own bitbake and oe-core, and it works21:54
rburtonas that's all poky is: those glued together21:54
rburton(there were reasons it wasn't make meta-poky and i can't recall them)21:55
kergothvdl: yocto is more than just a buildsystem. bitbake+oe-core+meta-yocto are the baseline buildsystem for yocto, but that's one project under its umbrella. admittedly the main one, but yocto wouldn't make sense as a name21:56
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vdlso you could get rid of the "poky" repository for production projects, right?22:01
kergothas he said, poky repo is just bitbake+oe-core+meta-poky, whether you want it as as ingel repo or individual components is really up to you and how you want to structure your project22:01
vdlthat's just this "poky" repository that I would've named "yocto", since it contains meta-poky and meta-yocto-bsp, and is the glued-together repo, but nevermind22:02
kergothit's not yocto.22:02
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kergoththat's not what it is, so it doesn't make sense to call it that22:02
kergothit's an easy way to get and build poky, the reference distribution22:02
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rburtonits like saying they should have called the web server 'apache' it's not apache. the super project is called apache, the web server is apache httpd22:04
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vdlI see22:07
kergothYocto is the means by which multiple companies, many of which are competitors, are able to collaborate on a common embedded linux baseline. the build tooling for it is a big part of that, but not the only part.22:08
vdlbitbake has its own repo, right?22:12
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vdlI might get rid of the poky repository then, not a fan of the glued-together approach (even though I understand the purpose)22:22
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armpitvdl, yes, bitbake is it's own repo22:33
armpitso is core22:33
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nerdboyvdl: have you made your own manifest repo yet?22:54
vdlnerdboy: I'm using kas22:54
nerdboysorry, i need more context for that...22:55
nerdboyno idea what kas is22:56
vdlmoto-timo: it seems like adding meta-openembedded/meta-perl and meta-security allows to build systemd with importd, but it brings in a required "apparmor" distro feature. Doesn't this sound too much just for building importd?22:58
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nerdboyi meant making something like this: https://github.com/VCTLabs/vct-boundary-bsp-platform23:03
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nerdboyyou can make/test custom distro stuff, oe-core vs poky, etc23:03
vdlI do not like "repo". kas is another tool from siemens, better suited IMHO.23:04
nerdboyit's actually not so bad unless it's android...23:05
vdlI won't argue on that :)23:06
jonesv[m]Isn't it supposed to be a `dhcp` package in `meta/recipes-connectivity`? I don't find it in gatesgarth, but when I google for it I seem to find something on some repos 🤔 (disclaimer: I'm new to Yocto)23:12
jonesv[m](I'm trying to do this in my image recipe: `IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " dhcp"`)23:12
jonesv[m](I would like to have a dhcp server running, so that I can connect over USB, get an IP and SSH into my board)23:13
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moto-timovdl: kas over repo any day.23:20
moto-timokas doesn't phone home every time you run it and it actually gives you ERROR messages if it can't clone.23:21
moto-timorepo: crickets23:21
nerdboydisclaimer: i made that thing ^^ at least 5 yrs ago..23:22
moto-timovdl: I haven't knowingly built importd, so I have no idea. But I've had to bring in selinux just to build yadda yadda and set 'pam' distro feature to build foo. It happens.23:22
moto-timolot's of people like repo and use it well. It just isn't for me.23:23
moto-timogrammar has gone to the winds23:23
vdlmoto-timo: ;) btw importd still fails even though Run-time dependencies apparmor and glib stuffs are found...23:24
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RPdl9pf: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/118/builds/9 - it says all the rpms are different on that fedora worker! :/23:51
RPdl9pf: looks like the problem may be host specific, will wait and see how the other builds look23:52
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dl9pfok need to see it locally, checking master next23:55
dl9pfcan I limit the images and targets w/o hacking reproducible.py ?23:56
RPdl9pf: hacking that is easiest. FWIW when it says packages will be copied to /srv/autobuilder/autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20210216-3b7npcqi23:57
RPdl9pf: it means here: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/repro-fail/oe-reproducible-20210216-3b7npcqi/23:57
RPdl9pf: could pick a couple of the rpms out and run diffoscope locally23:58

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