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| vdl | anyone using kas without poky? | 05:27 |
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| * vdl found how to do it. | 05:57 | |
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| linums | morning! | 06:43 |
| linums | I know it is not really a yocto issue, but I ask it, if anyone has any clue | 06:44 |
| linums | so I compiled a sysv based os | 06:44 |
| linums | and i have this weird stuff, that if I call "service --status-all", then as it almost finishes the status report, every service shuts down, and I'm left alone with a working kernel, but no service at all | 06:46 |
| thekappe | Hello there !! I have a question, does anybody know how to add udevadm to a yocto (thud) image ? | 06:48 |
| dwagenk | thekappe what is your value for VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_dev_manager ? | 06:58 |
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| dwagenk | If it is udev or systemd you should be all set. | 07:01 |
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| thekappe | dwagenk, thanks | 07:03 |
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| medaliyou | hey folks , so i m bitbaking an image , containing layers which contains recipes for kernel 4.14.149 , so some kernel modules (drivers) have patch files , when building a new kernel | 09:25 |
| medaliyou | those patches are failing to apply | 09:25 |
| medaliyou | what canĀ i do to work it around ? | 09:26 |
| qschulz | medaliyou: patch the patches :)\ | 09:42 |
| qschulz | medaliyou: IMO the easiest is to clone the git repo, apply the patches already present in the recipe, then try to apply yours one by one and fix the potential conflicts | 09:43 |
| qschulz | but, I'm used to work with the kernel so I might biased when I say "easiest" :/ | 09:43 |
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| medaliyou | yeah you did LOL , i ll try to apply the old patches but they are targeting a 4.14 kernel & i m migrating to 5.4 | 09:58 |
| medaliyou | it will be a pain in the a$$ | 09:58 |
| qschulz | medaliyou: can't you just migrate your Yocto layers first, then migrate your kernel? | 10:00 |
| qschulz | they don't have to be done in one go (the order does not matter usually) | 10:01 |
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| Lyghtnox | Hi everyone | 10:10 |
| Lyghtnox | I'm trying to build yocto for a raspberry pi 2 but I get an error I can't solve: | 10:10 |
| Lyghtnox | Exception: Exception: KeyError: 'getpwuid(): uid not found: 1000' | 10:10 |
| Lyghtnox | Path ./package/etc/motd is owned by uid 1000, gid 1000, which doesn't match any user/group on target. This may be due to host contamination. | 10:10 |
| Lyghtnox | Any ideas? | 10:10 |
| qschulz | Lyghtnox: out of the blue, you used cp with preserved ownership instead of install in a do_install task in one of your recipes? | 10:14 |
| qschulz | Lyghtnox: is it one of your recipes? | 10:15 |
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| Lyghtnox | This is not one of my recipe | 10:17 |
| Lyghtnox | I followed the Quick start instructions from here: https://github.com/agherzan/meta-raspberrypi | 10:17 |
| qschulz | Lyghtnox: which recipe is failing? did you make sure all of your layers are on branches named the same? Are you building on a compatible desktop distro for the release you're targetting?\ | 10:20 |
| Lyghtnox | Here is the complete error: https://pastebin.com/q7uigGLW | 10:24 |
| Lyghtnox | Yes I used the gatesgarth branch for everything | 10:24 |
| Lyghtnox | As for the last question, how can I check that? | 10:24 |
| kayterina | are you on arch linux? | 10:27 |
| kayterina | because I switched to an ubuntu for yocto because it the manual said is supported | 10:29 |
| Lyghtnox | Yes I'm using arch at the moment. I wanted to give it a try but I might setup a Ubuntu VM if I can't make it work. | 10:31 |
| qschulz | Lyghtnox: garmin/pyrex for containers to build yocto stuff | 10:42 |
| qschulz | Haven't used it but at least a handful of people do | 10:42 |
| Lyghtnox | This looks great! I'll test that thanks! | 10:44 |
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| medaliyou | guyssss | 11:12 |
| medaliyou | how to solveĀ systemd error do_install | 11:12 |
| medaliyou | RPATH changes at install time disabled | 11:13 |
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| qschulz | halstead: good (early) morning, Firefox complains there is no https for cgit.openembedded.org, don't know if it's expired or if there was even ever one? | 11:50 |
| qschulz | (I have (is it default now?) HTTPS-Only mode enabled) | 11:50 |
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| wertigon | Ok, so I have almost perfected my debug image vs my production-ready image, now I need to neuter a specific kernel option for debug image only. | 11:52 |
| wertigon | Is there an easy way to do this from the image recipe, or do I need to create a new kernel package for this? | 11:53 |
| qschulz | new kernel package | 11:55 |
| qschulz | recipe data is local | 11:55 |
| qschulz | so you cannot modify a recipe from another one | 11:55 |
| qschulz | wertigon: at one point you might want to consider going for a debug distro instead of hacking around image recipes | 11:56 |
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| wertigon | qschulz: Yeah, true, but now they want everything but ONE_THING (tm) :) | 12:08 |
| wertigon | If I've understood it correctly I should be able to just do include(kernel_recipe.bb) | 12:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | and how would that iamge select the kernel, as it cannot set it as provider? | 12:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | seriously, thats stupid. | 12:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | if at all even you would end up with all of the image being built against the distro kernel, and the debug kernel being pulled in as (R)DEPENDS or such... which just gives me the creeps. | 12:14 |
| qschulz | wertigon: which option is it? | 12:15 |
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| qschulz | is it something you can build as a module? | 12:15 |
| qschulz | in which case, you always enable it in your defconfig, and then just add the kernel-module-<whatever> to your debug image only | 12:16 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: ++ very good idea. | 12:17 |
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| wertigon | qschulz: The CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM | 12:34 |
| wertigon | As a module would be a great option too | 12:35 |
| wertigon | I can also just disable this specific option at compile time and build it :) | 12:36 |
| wertigon | More work, but in this case maybe that is what is for the best? | 12:37 |
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| wertigon | I think my problem here is that I see far too many nails for my hammer | 12:38 |
| wertigon | I need to start working more with my chisel, screwdriver and possibly drill :) | 12:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | wertigon: if that can be built as a module then qschulz' approach is perfect. straight and simple. | 12:44 |
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| wertigon | LetoThe2nd: Yep, already do that with a few other options, I'll double check, but if there is a handful of options I can just write a simple pre-compilation script that changes the appropriate option | 12:53 |
| wertigon | I think doing that and then git reset is easier :) | 12:54 |
| wertigon | As long as it is documented *somewhere* | 12:54 |
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| LetoThe2nd | i really don't get what makes people avoid debug distros. most behave like they would spread some infection. | 12:57 |
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| qschulz | wertigon: how would this pre-compilation script be selected then? it has to be from within the kernel recipe | 13:02 |
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| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: i fear he's talking about a manual process. like "you want a debug image? here, its only those tiny 18 steps you need to do, totally not error prone, nothing has ever failed. and best, all without a debug distro!" | 13:03 |
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| kyanres | btw, do we have to create a TOPDIR/TMPDIR for each combo of distro and machine ? | 13:05 |
| qschulz | kyanres: not sure to understand? distro and machines are already clearly separated in TMPDIR | 13:07 |
| LetoThe2nd | kyanres: for building, no. but you can't set multiples in local.conf, so you would either have to resort to passing via ENV or changing local.conf between builds. | 13:07 |
| kyanres | thanks | 13:15 |
| kyanres | qschulz, Well, I don't know where I got that information, but I tought I had to create a TMPDIR for each machine. | 13:15 |
| kyanres | actually, in https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#setting-up-and-running-a-multiple-configuration-build | 13:15 |
| kyanres | Suggested practice dictates that you do not overlap the temporary directories used during the builds | 13:15 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kyanres: a multiconf build is something completely different. | 13:17 |
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| LetoThe2nd | kyanres: and it certainly doesn't hurt to use multiple TMPDIRs, but for building several combinations sequentially, it at least shouldn't be problematic to stick with one (for standard usecases/environments) | 13:18 |
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| kyanres | oh? different from having several TOPDIR and calling oe-init-build-env ? how so ? | 13:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | nanana. | 13:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | no multiple environments. thats not what we were talking about. | 13:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | kyanres: for building, no. but you can't set multiples in local.conf, so you would either have to resort to passing via ENV or changing local.conf between builds. | 13:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | thats what i wrote. | 13:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | so you could do MACHINE=machine1 DISTRO=distro1 bitbake my-image. and once that is finished, you do MACHINE=machine2 DISTRO=distro1 bitbake my-image | 13:21 |
| LetoThe2nd | and so on, and so on. but sharing TMPDIR between several build environments, nope, don't do that. | 13:22 |
| kyanres | okay | 13:23 |
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| LetoThe2nd | but in the end its mostly cosmetic anyways, or depending on your workflow. this won't save diskspace or time noticeably, thats all in sstate. | 13:24 |
| kyanres | by build environment, you mean TOPDIR ? version of bitbake ? | 13:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | build environment == the directory that you create by oe-init-build-env. | 13:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | i guess that equivalates to TOPDIR, but i've never noticed anyone using that expression. | 13:26 |
| kyanres | okay. yeah I wouldn't dare go that far | 13:26 |
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| medaliyou | systemd do compile | 13:28 |
| medaliyou | erro | 13:28 |
| medaliyou | RPATH changes at install time disabled | 13:28 |
| medaliyou | MmedaliyouĀ 14:27:17and its a meson_do_install | 13:28 |
| medaliyou | in the do_install() | 13:28 |
| medaliyou | Welcome to freenode. To protect the | 13:28 |
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| wertigon | LetoThe2nd, qschulz: Yep, manual for now - sometimes it's better to do stuff for hand :) | 13:29 |
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| wertigon | But I agree it's the least ideal solution | 13:29 |
| wertigon | Idea is you call the script, build the image, run git reset | 13:29 |
| qschulz | wertigon: assume users are dumb and will either forget or do weird things. | 13:30 |
| qschulz | and you need to maintain this script | 13:31 |
| * LetoThe2nd shrugs | 13:31 | |
| medaliyou | folks | 13:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | i think that way is outright stupid. but hey, its not mie to support it, so go go go. | 13:31 |
| medaliyou | can i get some help please | 13:31 |
| medaliyou | why systemd: do_compile() crasher | 13:31 |
| medaliyou | crashes | 13:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | medaliyou: sorry, but we are not responsible for support upon request. if you've got a problem that somebody knows something about, then that person will answer. if not, then its bad luck, but still not our problem. | 13:32 |
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| medaliyou | you re right, helping is optionalĀ (y) (y) | 13:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | medaliyou: as systemd happily builds on hundreds of systems and thousand of combinations in poky each day, i'd guess hte problem is yours alone. strip the build down, isolate, reproduce. good luck. | 13:33 |
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| ptsneves | Hey all. Do you know of any nice way to build multiple gcc runtimes in the same build? | 13:34 |
| qschulz | ptsneves: 1) copy the recipes 2) change slightly the name of the second recipe so that it does not match the first 3) profit | 13:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: 3) change the slight name changes to something funny but completely pointless, like wonderful_1.2.3.bb, fancy_2.3.4.bb and superduper_4.3.2bb | 13:36 |
| mcfrisk | I like the profit part | 13:36 |
| ptsneves | qschulzĀ yeah that is what I do with userspace recipes but gcc-runtime sounds trickier. Is is safe to have the runtime of GCC9 built with GCC10, so that GCC9 can use it? | 13:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | 4) profit and hanve fun | 13:36 |
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| mcfrisk | sorry, step 4) is "run away and never look back" | 13:37 |
| ptsneves | eeheh yeah the profit and never look back part have a tendency of catching me in the back :D | 13:37 |
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| LetoThe2nd | mcfrisk: nope, seriously. if the asker does that we can all have profit in laughing on him/her. | 13:38 |
| mcfrisk | ptsneves: didn't run fast and far enough | 13:38 |
| LetoThe2nd | so i think thats an outright awesome way! | 13:38 |
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| wertigon | @qschulz: Probably, yeah. Not a good solution but it's this or having to spend 4 hours cursing at the screen... | 13:44 |
| wertigon | Maybe a new distro is the way to go soon though | 13:44 |
| qschulz | wertigon: cp poky.conf conf/layer/opky-debug.conf | 13:44 |
| medaliyou | āÆ cat systemd_%.bbappend | 13:44 |
| medaliyou | do_install_append() { | 13:44 |
| medaliyou | Ā Ā rm ${D}${sysconfdir}/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service | 13:44 |
| medaliyou | } | 13:44 |
| medaliyou | CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT DOES THIS LINE DO ???? | 13:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | medaliyou: sure! its a neat trick we use to make sure the caps lock keys of poky users are tested. | 13:45 |
| ptsneves | medaliyou an error? | 13:45 |
| ptsneves | LetoThe2nd :D :D :D | 13:45 |
| medaliyou | yeah when i commented th rm ... line | 13:46 |
| qschulz | medaliyou: ask the one who wrote the bbappend. | 13:46 |
| medaliyou | bitbake systemd finally passed | 13:46 |
| wertigon | medaliyou: seems to disable automatic startup of tty1 service. | 13:46 |
| qschulz | medaliyou: there are no bbappend for systemd in official layers AFAICT | 13:46 |
| qschulz | c.f. https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/5979/ | 13:46 |
| ptsneves | oh sorry i saw mv and not rm :D | 13:46 |
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| LetoThe2nd | medaliyou: seriously: go pester those folks who provided you layers that give trouble. | 13:47 |
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| medaliyou | i'm just doing a 6 months internship for my end of studies project, i m working with a company that hired a freelancer to create their linux for imx board | 13:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | medaliyou: then tell your supervisor that the stuff is outdated, you're having troubles, whatever. but essentially you're demanding that people here help you fixing stuff for free, that the company is being cheap on. or is that some opensource,openhardware project we can all profit on? | 13:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | medaliyou: opinions may of course differ. but that is mine, and i am speaking just for myself here (that needs to be clear, my opinion is neither representative of this channel nor the YP) | 13:52 |
| mcfrisk | medaliyou: bitbake -e systemd, then inspect the output and figure out where this bbappend is and change it. there are endless possibilities to shoot oneself to foot with yocto and bitbake. we talk here of upstream yocto, if you add custom layers we can't really help except provide general guidance | 13:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | mcfrisk: s/foot/brains/g | 13:52 |
| medaliyou | My task is to optimize boot time, and i didn't even get a build work to flash the image to the IMXĀ board yet. IĀ m just trying to learn & improve myself here, and i only ask you huys when i got stuck after long search time. And yeah that project seems so outdated and it is not open source . | 13:54 |
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| LetoThe2nd | medaliyou: well then i kinda feel sorry for you, and i wish you good luck. but i probably won't be of much help because i'm not going to work for free for that company (which i would basically do then) | 13:56 |
| mcfrisk | medaliyou: you need to start by reproducing your compamny build, we can't help that here. general guidance, then run systemd-analyze and look what takes long and why. also look at bootloader and kernel. generic linux guides help: 2nd google hit is https://elinux.org/images/6/64/Chris-simmonds-boot-time-elce-2017_0.pdf | 13:57 |
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| intera91 | good afternoon, | 13:59 |
| medaliyou | you ve already offred me much help , thank you a lot guys | 14:01 |
| intera91 | am working with branch warrior (open-amd) and I was wondering wht is th esafest way to upgrade the version of mosquitto which is pulled as part of openembedded as our software requires 1.6.12 and openembedded/meta-networking/recipes-connectivity/mosquitto pulls 1.5.8 | 14:01 |
| qschulz | intera91: new recipe? | 14:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | copied recipe? | 14:02 |
| intera91 | resarted from scrtch as bsp is AMD v1000 | 14:02 |
| qschulz | intera91: http://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-networking/recipes-connectivity/mosquitto/mosquitto_1.6.12.bb?h=gatesgarth | 14:02 |
| qschulz | intera91: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/recipes/ | 14:02 |
| intera91 | qschulz:Ā https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/85578/Ā mentions that gatesgarth pulls 1.6.12 but warrior pulls 1.5.8 | 14:05 |
| qschulz | intera91: then backport it? | 14:05 |
| intera91 | qschulz: indeedĀ my intention but what is the safest way to do that | 14:05 |
| qschulz | intera91: ???? just download the recipe and the patches it rquires? | 14:06 |
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| intera91 | i'll giove thatĀ a try but the recipe uses ${PV} as version, how is that value initialised? | 14:07 |
| qschulz | from the filename of the recipe | 14:09 |
| dl9pf | How can I inject DL_DIR and SSTATE_DIR or MIRROR into oe-selftest ? | 14:09 |
| qschulz | there's really nothing more than getting the files from a new layer in most cases. No changes involved. If it does not compile, only then you dig deeper | 14:10 |
| RP | dl9pf: If you set then in your build dir in advance it should reuse them | 14:10 |
| dl9pf | the dir where the toplevel project is ... ok | 14:11 |
| dl9pf | looking at the SDE now | 14:11 |
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| RP | dl9pf: want me to trim down your other patch and queue it? | 14:13 |
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| dl9pf | i can split it ... sec ... | 14:20 |
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| dl9pf | done | 14:26 |
| RP | dl9pf: thanks, can get that one in the queue :) | 14:27 |
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| kergoth | Anyone thought about trying to detect unused variables, if limited by file? i.e. a recipe level linter, iterate over the lines of the file and its appends and identify which of those weren't present in the final result for those variables, and checksum the tasks to identify which vars were unused in those, to potentially detect possible typos? | 15:01 |
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| ptsneves | kergoth yes, but if the variable is exported you have no way of knowing if it is used by any script in the task for example, so you would need to limit it to bitbake vars correct? | 15:07 |
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| kergoth | ptsneves: yeah, it'd have to have limitations to avoid a ridiculous number of warnings, but at least if you typo SRC_URI as SRC_URO or something it'd warn you :) | 15:15 |
| ptsneves | yeah, in that direction i would say it would really help 40% of the cases of newbies being confused | 15:17 |
| ptsneves | so maybe starting by a typo detector would be nice | 15:18 |
| ptsneves | like a string distance of something not known to the parse output to a given variable. | 15:18 |
| qschulz | I think we could have a look at all variables in tasks' sigdata? | 15:22 |
| JPEW | There's a *lot* of variables that are unused from e.g. bitbake.conf | 15:23 |
| JPEW | You might want to limit it to only variables defined in the current bb file, but I think know that would require parsing with variable tracking information (maybe?), which we don't normally do | 15:25 |
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| ptsneves | well all the info we need should be available from bitbake -e <recipe> | 15:30 |
| ptsneves | as it says wehre the variables are set | 15:30 |
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| zbodek | Hi, I have a question regarding contributing patches | 15:34 |
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| zbodek | I have a patch for poky: meta/recipes-sato/webkit/wpebackend-fdo_1.4.1.bb, from what I understand I should post it to openembedded-core? | 15:35 |
| qschulz | yup, poky/meta is openembedded-core | 15:36 |
| zbodek | My patch is against dunfell, should I post it as a patch on-top of dunfell-next? | 15:37 |
| zeddii | zbodek. if it is version specific, you'd send it against dunfell (commenting that it is already fixed in master due to a newer version), or you must send it against master first and ask for a backport to dunfell. | 15:38 |
| ayoung | Anyone tried running toaster on other-than-ubuntu lately? I tried on Centos8 and got an error right off the bat. | 15:38 |
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| zbodek | zeddii: thanks. I don't think it is fixed in the latest version. I'm only using dunfell and from what I see master only has package version bumped up. I will try to build master and see what's happening | 15:45 |
| zeddii | yah. that's the trick with LTS. There's an extra hoop to jump through on fixes, since the project has a master first policy. Otherwise, the branches would diverge and have completely different sets of issues. | 15:47 |
| zeddii | thanks for the extra effort! | 15:47 |
| zbodek | np | 15:48 |
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| yann | is there any known problem between ccache and meta-arm-toolchain ? On the kernel I'm seeing scripts/Kconfig.include:40: linker 'ccache aarch64-shadow-linux-ld.bfd --sysroot=.../recipe-sysroot' not found (which I did not have before starting to switch from the vendor meta-rockchip to the yoctoproject.org meta-arm-based one) | 15:50 |
| yann | (and without too much surprise, disabling ccache does work) | 15:50 |
| rburton | meta-arm-toolchain isn't used unless you select it | 15:50 |
| JPEW | ptsneves: Ya the variable tracking information isn't normally collected when parsing recipes (it's enabled when you run bitbake -e), possibly as a performance optimization? | 15:53 |
| yann | at least meta-rockchip requires the meta-arm layer, which in turn requires meta-arm-toolchain | 15:59 |
| yann | I admit I have another change that can't be ruled out so fast: I upgraded the poky layer to 3.2.2rc1 | 16:00 |
| yann | oh and that's not the end of the problems, as I'm now hitting ".../arch/arm64/boot/fitImage: No such file or directory" | 16:00 |
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| yann | I'd' better split that upgrade in two :) | 16:01 |
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| rburton | yann: its a layer dependency as firmware needs the binary compilers, but adding meta-arm-toolchain doesn't change anything out of the box | 16:05 |
| rburton | I'd definitely split your changes into two :) | 16:05 |
| yann | is it really useful to have a layer dependency for something that's not used out of the box ? | 16:06 |
| rburton | it is used out of the box if you build trusted-firmware-a | 16:06 |
| halstead | qschulz, We've only had a cert for git.openembedded.org. cgit.openembedded.org is an old cname record. Do you need to use that domain name? | 16:07 |
| yann | yeah, I was overly optimistic trying to avoid doing 2 full rebuilds - I'll take my time :) | 16:07 |
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| rburton | RP JPEW was anyone looking at the watchdog reprod failure? stupid irc client can't search and i'm sure I saw that come up | 16:14 |
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| qschulz | halstead: not really no, my browsing history is full of them though :D can we redirect cgit.oe.org to git.oe.org? is there a reason for keeping cgit? | 16:17 |
| RP | rburton: I think I fixed that didn't I? | 16:17 |
| rburton | ah yes so you did | 16:18 |
| rburton | i was just doing a bit of triage on the pending swat list | 16:18 |
| halstead | qschulz: I'm not sure. I'll make it a redirect though. | 16:18 |
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| eduardas | hello, what is the best way to build two different kernels for same machine in the same build directory | 16:19 |
| eduardas | ? | 16:19 |
| eduardas | I need one with integrated initramfs for testing and one without for final raw NAND UBI image generation | 16:20 |
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| kyanres | halstead, qschulz, if you search "git.openembedded.org" in https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layers/, all the "Repository" URLs say git, but their web repo and tree actually point to cgit | 16:22 |
| halstead | kyanres: oh. I could change that before making the redirect. | 16:24 |
| qschulz | kyanres: thanks, was wondering where I got the links from :D | 16:27 |
| qschulz | eduardas: two different distros then | 16:28 |
| eduardas | qschulz: but two different distros means two build directories, no? | 16:30 |
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| kyanres | eduardas: as I was taught recently ;), you can >> MACHINE=machine1 DISTRO=distro1 bitbake my-image. and once that is finished, you do MACHINE=machine2 DISTRO=distro1 bitbake my-image | 16:38 |
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| kyanres | er. distro2 for the second command | 16:40 |
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| thekappe | hello guys ! I've three network interfaces and I want to have therir names be unique | 16:47 |
| thekappe | so that eth0 always refer to eth@xxxxxx | 16:47 |
| thekappe | and eth1 refers to eth@yyyyy | 16:48 |
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| thekappe | how can I do that in Yocto ? | 16:48 |
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| yann | rburton: at least it's not the update to 3.2.2 which breaks the kernel build :) | 16:52 |
| rburton | thekappe: write the udev/systemd/whatever rules, and put them in a package, and put the package in your image | 16:53 |
| RP | rburton: ah, thanks. Would you want to reply to this swat email? | 16:57 |
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| eduardas | kyanres: thank you. I was not aware of that possibility. | 17:02 |
| thekappe | rburton, thanks, I'll look into that | 17:02 |
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| eduardas | kyanres: I have taken a closer look at the Yocto documentation. Isn't multiconfig what I should really want for my usecase? | 17:29 |
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| kyanres | eduardas: erm, maybe ? I'd say both ways allow to build with different distros, but take note that I'm new | 17:59 |
| kyanres | anyone else has infos about that ? | 17:59 |
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| bandito_embedded | Hi guys, I have a question. I'm new to yocto and I want to use an external toolchain to build my image. I'm using arm-linux from ARM so not sourcery, nor linaro. Is there a way to do it ? | 18:01 |
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| smurray | RP: just curious, has anyone expressed interest in a recipe for the split out xwayland yet? | 18:03 |
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| RP | smurray: not seen it | 18:05 |
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| smurray | RP: they're pulling it out of xorg since it's the only part people plan to use going forward with wayland, rc is out now: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2021-February/060615.html | 18:07 |
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| * zeddii is going back to mwm and old school exterm. | 18:33 | |
| zeddii | s/ex/x/ | 18:33 |
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| rburton | smurray: patches welcome :) | 18:36 |
| smurray | rburton: heh, indeed. I might take a crack at it after I get a couple more CVE fixes for dunfell squared away | 18:43 |
| rburton | that does kind of encourage the effort to move away from xorg | 18:47 |
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| smurray | rburton: yeah. I'd not be surprised to see e.g. Fedora not ship xorg at all in 2022/2023 | 18:56 |
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| JPEW | It's annoyingly hard to find a simple embedded focus wayland compositor... lipstick is *really* close, but it uses Qt :( | 18:57 |
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| eduardas | It seems to me that if I just put my multiconfig directory into my template directory, these files do not get copied over when using the TEMPLATECONF variable with the oe-init-build-env script | 19:16 |
| eduardas | Can one even copy over multiconfig config files from template directory when using TEMPLATECONF? | 19:17 |
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| vdl | I'm still trying to fix the compilation of systemd with importd support. I've added support for glib and apparmor so now I have all Run-time dependencies found, but the compilation still fails | 19:24 |
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| vdl | meson-log.txt still shows a bench of "Program foo found: NO", should all of them be added to the image as a dependency as well? | 19:25 |
| JPEW | vdl: No, they need to be in `DEPENDS` | 19:28 |
| JPEW | vdl: Either directly or through `PACKAGECONFIG` | 19:29 |
| JPEW | eduardas: I don't know if that works.... it might be easier just to put the multiconfigs in a layer? | 19:29 |
| eduardas | JPEW: my multiconfig files are in a layer, in the same directory I store my templates for distro + machine combinations. Not sure what you mean | 19:30 |
| eduardas | JPEW: I have a meta-mylayer/conf/templates/setupA and meta-mylayer/conf/templates/setupB | 19:31 |
| JPEW | eduardas: If you put them in meta-mylayer/conf/multiconfig/mc.conf bitbake should be able to find them | 19:32 |
| eduardas | TEMPLATECONF="${PWD}/sources/meta-mylayer/conf/templates/setupA/" . ./sources/poky/oe-init-build-env build | 19:32 |
| eduardas | This is how I usually setup my build directory | 19:32 |
| eduardas | JPEW: will try it. I was putting them under /sources/meta-mylayer/conf/templates/setupA/multiconfig | 19:33 |
| eduardas | I need multiconfig only for one of my setups | 19:34 |
| eduardas | If I do it your way, this will become universal for all setups? | 19:34 |
| JPEW | eduardas: correct | 19:34 |
| eduardas | seems kinda inflexible | 19:34 |
| JPEW | eduardas: Depends on what you are going for I suppose :) | 19:35 |
| vdl | JPEW: I see, things like kmod can be added both as PACKAGECONFIG or a DEPENDS package. What's the best approach to fix compilation issue like this? PACKAGECONFIG first? | 19:35 |
| vdl | Also finding which package provides which function is tricky | 19:36 |
| eduardas | I'd really like there to be a way to specify the entirety of the build directory config directory contents in one place. That kind of would seem more obvious, at least for me. | 19:36 |
| JPEW | vdl: Ya, you actually only need the recipe (.bb file), not the package | 19:37 |
| JPEW | vdl: You would put it in PACKAGECONFIG if the dependency is tied to an optional PACKAGECONFIG, DEPENDS if it's needed all the time | 19:37 |
| eduardas | One can always do custom setup scripts, but I'd really like to avoid those. | 19:37 |
| JPEW | eduardas: I'm not a huge fan of TEMPLATECONF because it doesn't update after the first time. e.g. if person A updates the template, there is no way for person B to get the update (or even know they need one without looking at the history) unless they delete what they currently have | 19:39 |
| eduardas | JPEW: yeah, good point. My colleagues have already stumbled on that one as it is non-obvious. | 19:40 |
| JPEW | eduardas: We wrote this to try an solve the "product management" problem: https://github.com/garmin/whisk | 19:41 |
| eduardas | though because BBMULTICONFIG won't be defined for all local.conf.sample files, I guess what you suggested should be fine | 19:41 |
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| eduardas | JPEW: really interesting. haven't heard about it, so really useful to know | 19:42 |
| eduardas | JPEW: does this have overlap from a functionality perspective like siemens kas ? | 19:43 |
| vdl | JPEW: so I've fixed the "Run-time dependency X found: NO" error, I'm looking at the "Program X found: NO" errors, should I worry about the "Compiler for C supports arguments -WX: NO" errors? how to tackle this? | 19:43 |
| vdl | (explicitly "-Wno-error=#warnings -Werror=#warnings" and "-Wno-string-plus-int -Wstring-plus-int") | 19:44 |
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| JPEW | eduardas: Probably overlaps with kas | 19:49 |
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| JPEW | vdl: Probably don't need to worry about the compiler argument checks | 19:54 |
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| vdl | eduardas: I'm not using it but kas supports specifying multiconfig, if that's needed. (otherwise 2 kas files are often just fine) | 20:04 |
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| eduardas | vdl: thanks. good to know too | 20:06 |
| linums | I've build an os with nft, and I can not set the network tables up | 20:06 |
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| om26er | I posted this in #poky, now posting here. | 20:07 |
| vdl | eduardas: since configuration format version 5 to be precise: https://kas.readthedocs.io/en/latest/format-changelog.html#version-5 | 20:07 |
| linums | it says that "prerouting" can not be processes, since "No such file or directory" | 20:07 |
| linums | what am I missing from the os? | 20:07 |
| om26er | Apparmor build started to fail for us on dunfell branch. It was working fine yesterday, so some change broke that (and it's definitely not our change) | 20:08 |
| om26er | here are the logs https://gist.github.com/om26er/8e0ab28f79f3807b9a28b6c203860bbf | 20:09 |
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| om26er | armpit is that something you are aware of ? (looking at meta-security, it seems you wrote the Apparmor recipe) | 20:09 |
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| linums | is it ok, that nftables package does not contain the nftables service script for SysV | 20:21 |
| vdl | JPEW: my systemd-importd compilation failure is down to this, not sure what to tackle next: http://ix.io/2PTx | 20:33 |
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| om26er | ok, I have reported https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14239 | 20:51 |
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| JPEW | vdl: Which one is the fatal error? | 21:01 |
| vdl | JPEW: I cannot tell, that meson-log.txt isn't very explicit | 21:02 |
| vdl | JPEW: I meant the "fatal" line is this... | 21:03 |
| vdl | "meson.build:1265:16: ERROR: Problem encountered: importd support was requested, but dependencies are not available"... | 21:04 |
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| JPEW | vdl: Hmm, you may need to log at the meson.build file and figure out which dependencies are actually required | 21:06 |
| JPEW | vdl: Or maybe diff the log file with and without importd support | 21:06 |
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| linums | I have some basic question | 21:23 |
| linums | where are the init files from? | 21:23 |
| linums | I can't find in any log file, where it is downloaded | 21:23 |
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| RP | dl9pf: Did you make any progress? | 21:45 |
| RP | smurray: interesting. Its something we'd want a recipe for | 21:46 |
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| dl9pf | i got it coded, but selftest still runs locally | 21:53 |
| dl9pf | waiting for result | 21:53 |
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| RP | dl9pf: fair enough, sounds promising! :) | 22:04 |
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| RP | zeddii: can you spot any race that would explain https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/23/builds/3321/steps/13/logs/stdio ? | 22:55 |
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