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LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:42 |
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mckoan | good morning | 06:48 |
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nacknick | Hi. Does anyone know about Bitbake command for getting all packages with their version? | 07:50 |
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nacknick | NVM I think I've found it | 07:52 |
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wooosaiiii | Hi... I am looking for advice on how to properly use https://github.com/grz0zrg/fbg "library" in my custom meta-layer. | 09:33 |
wooosaiiii | Basically this projects provides couple of .c & .h files I need during compilation of my custom demo program. | 09:33 |
wooosaiiii | I would create fbg_git.bb recipe... and fbg_demo_1.0.0.bb | 09:34 |
wooosaiiii | Basically fbg_demo would need some of the source files from fgb_git.bb during build time... | 09:36 |
wooosaiiii | any examples and ideas? | 09:36 |
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eduardas | hello, how can I easily make npm available in my custom recipe step? | 11:02 |
eduardas | I do not want to use npm.bbclass because it sets nodejs as RDEPENDS | 11:03 |
eduardas | but I need the command "npm run build" to build a custom Vue.js project | 11:04 |
LetoThe2nd | eduardas: take npm.bbclass as a starting point and beat it into shape. | 11:08 |
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qschulz | eduardas: DEPENDS = "nodejs-native" | 11:13 |
qschulz | but carefully read the npm.bbclass anyway, because npm does not cross-compile by default | 11:13 |
qschulz | works for some usecases (using npm to build static website (JS+HTML) | 11:13 |
LetoThe2nd | depends on your definition of works, because it is very easy to accidentially bypass do_fetc | 11:14 |
LetoThe2nd | do_fetch | 11:14 |
eduardas | qschulz: this is a static website, so I believe it should work for my case | 11:17 |
eduardas | qschulz: so thanks for the advice | 11:17 |
qschulz | that's what we did end up doing recently so I guess it's good enough :) | 11:18 |
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LetoThe2nd | like i said - it depends on your requirements. | 11:18 |
eduardas | LetoThe2nd: yes, having a modified npm.bbclass was something I was considering, but I am not familiar with the whole npm ecosystem. So I really want a simpler solution, to be honest. | 11:18 |
eduardas | I really expected this to be more obvious in Yocto nowadays, to be honest | 11:20 |
LetoThe2nd | eduardas: thats all legit. what i jsut want to make properly understood is that many, many js based build processes do random server fetches. so unless yo take great care to avoid/cache those, you will probably end up in a situation where you can reproduce the system, but not the js/html application in a couple of months time. | 11:20 |
eduardas | i.e. I kinda expected this usecase to be already covered by npm.bbclass | 11:20 |
LetoThe2nd | nope, npm.bbclass targets another usecase. | 11:21 |
eduardas | doesn't npm have methods to define fixed versions of dependencies? | 11:22 |
qschulz | LetoThe2nd: yup, probably will not produce reproducible builds | 11:22 |
LetoThe2nd | eduardas: AIUI, npm.bbclass is meant to put a specific npm package onto the target. | 11:23 |
LetoThe2nd | eduardas: not exactly for packaging your own application. | 11:24 |
eduardas | LetoThe2nd: thanks for pointing that out. Lots of room for improvement, I see... | 11:27 |
eduardas | LetoThe2nd: just as a sanity check... as far as I understand npm.bbclass uses the host's version of npm? | 11:28 |
LetoThe2nd | improvement is complicated and painful when it comes to packaging JS | 11:28 |
eduardas | i.e. bitbake does not build an independent version of npm for itself? | 11:28 |
LetoThe2nd | it does build the version it can find in the layers. what else shouldiit build? | 11:29 |
eduardas | I could not actually find it in the nodejs work directory | 11:29 |
eduardas | npm itself I mean | 11:30 |
LetoThe2nd | if you have DEPENDS += "nodejs" it ends up in the sysroot-path of the depending recipe | 11:30 |
eduardas | LetoThe2nd: should I define a static website package as allarch? | 11:36 |
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LetoThe2nd | eduardas: i would say so, yes. | 12:51 |
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JPEW | khem: Ya, we use meta-mingw | 13:48 |
JPEW | khem: Unfortunately | 13:49 |
RP | JPEW: I've broken it with master as the pkgconfig fix only works with gcc 11 :/ | 13:51 |
JPEW | RP: Ah... hmm | 13:52 |
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RP | JPEW: I'm hoping to merge gcc 11 soon which would solve the problem. There are other fixes for it in master-next from khem too | 13:53 |
JPEW | RP: Ya. Thanks for pushing those, I was going to this morning but saw they were already there :) | 13:54 |
JPEW | RP: The glib <-> pkgconfig dependency loop is a bit annoying | 13:54 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: break stuff! break stuff! :) | 13:54 |
RP | LetoThe2nd: I have managed to fail to replace the battery in my Garmin and cracked the screen in the process. I also tried to service a seatpost and that isn't working any more. Doing really well at it today :/ | 13:58 |
LetoThe2nd | RP: awesome! perfect way to start out a week, if you ask me. | 14:03 |
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RP | LetoThe2nd: I'm sulking as I have a better track record than this. I'm missing some obvious step with the seatpost. The Garmin is now working ok having seen computer power, wouldn't power up out on the bike. | 14:08 |
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LetoThe2nd | RP: hey, my day started out by without prior planning having to roll out MS teams to all of our accounting/sourcing. | 14:10 |
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RP | Somehow I just removed zeddii's kernel patches from my mailbox without trace too :/ | 14:20 |
RP | LetoThe2nd: ouch :/ | 14:20 |
RP | khem: I merged gcc11, thanks! | 14:24 |
RP | JPEW: ok to merge master-next on meta-mingw? | 14:24 |
JPEW | RP: Yep | 14:24 |
JPEW | khem: Thanks for the MinGW 7 -> 8 upgrade. It was on my TODO list | 14:25 |
RP | JPEW: done. | 14:25 |
* JPEW wishes AUH worked for nativesdk | 14:25 | |
RP | JPEW: we don't have that many nativesdk only recipes do we? | 14:29 |
RP | JPEW: thanks for the logging fix btw. We need to rip apart the logging stuff :/ | 14:30 |
JPEW | RP: Ya, we don't have much nativesdk only, which is why the AUH (devtool really) probably isn't very high priority :) | 14:30 |
JPEW | Yes, logging needs another good look | 14:30 |
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paulg | RP, subliminal work-avoidance? Nuke all mails from zeddii ? | 14:35 |
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* RP locks uninative 3.1 in. Still scares me that I'm fixing elf sections given how little I know about them | 14:40 | |
dwagenk | I was recently irritated by the handling of defconfig in linux-yocto style kernels. | 14:40 |
dwagenk | The task scripts (run.do_kernel_configme) and a note in meta-freescale then pointed me to the KCONFIG_MODE variable. This selects, whether a provided out of tree defconfig is applied with `allnoconfig` or `alldefconfig` flag. `allnoconfig` is the default, while the `alldefconfig` handling would be closer to what I expect from dealing with the kernel in other contexts. | 14:40 |
dwagenk | Short: I think this should be documented and wanted to know if kernel-dev/common:changing the configuration (https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#changing-the-configuration) would be the right spot. I'd prepare a patch for it. | 14:40 |
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RP | dwagenk: a patch would be welcome | 14:46 |
RP | michaelo: ^^^ | 14:46 |
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michaelo | dwagenk, RP: and I will be happy to review it! | 14:59 |
michaelo | Good to know about "alldefconfig", I didn't know this one | 14:59 |
michaelo | dwagenk: and yes, kernel-dev/common looks like a good location | 15:04 |
dwagenk | OK, I'll be sending a patch | 15:06 |
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JaMa | anyone seeing "qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - core dumped" from update_font_cache postinst after rebuilding with gcc-11? | 15:23 |
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marc1 | Looking at the core-image-tiny-initramfs recipe and I am wondering why it is using the same COMPATIBLE_HOST as initramfs-live-install | 15:25 |
marc1 | For example building for arm works fine... | 15:25 |
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RP | LetoThe2nd: seatpost now works again :) | 15:49 |
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manuel1985 | Is anyone using Linux and reading signal of a rotary encoder? Kernel somehow supports it, and on RaspberryPi there is a device tree overlay, but I'm looking for advice on how to read it. | 16:58 |
qschulz | manuel1985: it probably sends KEY_EVENTs? so probably more or less what evtest is doing but in yuor own code | 16:59 |
manuel1985 | qschulz: The thing is in my whole linux career I never came across events. | 17:01 |
manuel1985 | Does it fire a callback of my process? | 17:02 |
manuel1985 | I want to have a process run every 10ms and read the decoded value of the rotary encoder. Can I have that process have an own cpu core to himself? | 17:04 |
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manuel1985 | I thought of the process running every 10ms be a gstreamer element. | 17:05 |
qschulz | manuel1985: IIRC the input subsystem sends events/signals whatever it's called to userspace to notify something changed | 17:17 |
qschulz | obviously, most of the time, it's not polling, otherwise responsiveness would be horrendous | 17:18 |
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qschulz | well I was wrong :) | 17:20 |
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qschulz | it seems you just continuously read /dev/input/eventX and I assume this is blocking until there's something that is sent there | 17:21 |
qschulz | I would assume that it's a character device, meaning if you don't read when it's sending something, it's lost (think UART) | 17:21 |
qschulz | but I might be wrong, maybe the rotatory device isn't exposed as an input device, in which case, well something else | 17:22 |
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Mrsan | hello all. writing a recipy for OpenTTD, but i have no idea how to compile the host tools needed for that as its on recipy and make it availible | 17:51 |
Mrsan | its currently a cmake build one with a flag to make tools only and one to make the dedicated server | 17:51 |
Mrsan | Any point to where to start to read about doing any of this would be much appriciated or an example. | 17:51 |
Mrsan | The tools made will be needed to compile Openttd binary | 17:51 |
Mrsan | (ofc i want any similar situation:) not exact soluiton :)) | 17:51 |
malinus_ | Mrsan: may I ask what kind of embedded device you want yocto on, with OpenTTD :P. | 17:56 |
Mrsan | malinus_ im making a image for Rpi4 and for x64 | 17:56 |
Mrsan | primarly, but im making a official meta for it | 17:57 |
malinus_ | Mrsan: why are you using YOCTO. I'm just corious, I don't have anyhting to help/add :) | 17:57 |
Mrsan | malinus_ why not:) (i dont want the overhead of the other oses :)) | 17:57 |
malinus_ | Fair enough, it just sounded exotic enough that I figured there might be some real-life application for it :P | 17:58 |
malinus_ | (real-life, meaning product or something) | 17:58 |
Mrsan | nah no product:) im doing this as a training exersice mostly | 17:59 |
Mrsan | malinus_: Learn By Doing: ) | 17:59 |
malinus_ | sure thing, sounds fun :) | 17:59 |
Mrsan | so what im looking for really is where ucompile custom tools to use duiring compile of another recipy and how to get them connected :) | 18:01 |
JPEW | Mrsan: You may need to write a -native recipe for the host tools | 18:07 |
Mrsan | JPEW any examples where to start? | 18:08 |
JPEW | Mrsan: I had to do something similar for zdoom: https://github.com/JPEWdev/yocto-doom-demo/blob/main/meta-doom/recipes-games/zdoom/zdoom.inc | 18:08 |
JPEW | Hopefully you could do it a *little* less grossly | 18:08 |
JPEW | :) | 18:08 |
Mrsan | JPEW atleast its a start:) Thank you:) | 18:09 |
JPEW | Mrsan: np. Like I said, it's a gross example because it uses a shared work dir (I don't recally why.... maybe there were relocation issues?). Anyway, I think you'd be better trying a dedicated -native recipe that the target recipe can DEPEND on | 18:10 |
Mrsan | but now i have an idea in anycase :) | 18:11 |
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tjp | hey folks. is there any sort of callback I can hook into from a kernel module to know that a shutdown/halt/reboot has been issued? customer char device driver is keeping a watchdog alive on embedded board, needs to be self-aware to actually permit shutdown to occur. | 18:27 |
tjp | alternatively, from user space, any way I can hook into shutdown and `rmmod` the module? would have the same effect. | 18:27 |
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dwagenk | michaelo: RP: sent the documentation patch for KCONFIG_MODE. First try didn't go through because I wasn't subscribed to the docs mailinglist. | 18:47 |
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fray | If two layers have a recipe of the same name, how do you determine which layer the recipe should come from? I'm getting different behavior from regular build and an eSDK build.. | 20:28 |
kergoth | fray: obviously if the versions differ, the usual version preferences would apply if set.. if not, or if the version is hte same, it'd be layer priority. | 20:35 |
denix | fray: recipe version order will be determined by layer priority. but parsing is determined by BBLAYERS order | 20:36 |
fray | so the BBFILES order has the recipe I expected first. but it's not being picked up. | 20:39 |
denix | so, if you have namespace collisions (same version recipe, bbclass, .conf or .inc), check your BBLAYERS order - I believe the first one in the list will win | 20:39 |
fray | that's what I thought.. and I thought it did it fia BBFILES | 20:39 |
fray | BBFILES="<my layer>/recipes-*/*/*.bb poky/meta/recipes-*/*/*.bb ...." | 20:40 |
fray | regular build it picked it from my layer.. but eSDK it picked it from poky layer | 20:40 |
fray | poky _repository_ | 20:41 |
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fray | and unfortunately the name is the same.. cause I'm trying to work around a stupid error in gatesgarth w/o patching the poky repository.. cause last time we did thi to work around a problem, we had users bitch furiously that "we broke things" | 20:41 |
denix | well, yeah BBLAYERS is easier for understand if all layers append, but yeah, if some layers prepend, it's more complicated and need to check BBFILES | 20:41 |
fray | "what do you mean it works with Zeus, when you have to patch Zeus".. | 20:41 |
fray | in this case, we have one prepend.. to hopefully put it at the beginning (which it does) | 20:42 |
fray | contents of the BBFILES looks the same to me in both cases | 20:42 |
JaMa | kergoth: isn't the layer priority first? I'm pretty use you can downgrade a recipe to lower version by adding it to a layer with higher priority (without setting P_V) | 20:43 |
JaMa | s/use/sure/g | 20:43 |
fray | both layers currently have the same prioity, 5 | 20:44 |
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denix | JaMa: yes, that's correct. higher-priority layer with older recipe will still win | 20:44 |
JaMa | fray: that sucks, that why we override all priorities in our generated bblayers.conf | 20:45 |
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kergoth | yeah, though only in the absence of an explicit prreference | 20:45 |
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kergoth | i dislike that behavior, as well as the mismatch in overriding between bblayers order and layer priority.. the meta-mentor setup scripts reorder bblayers by layer priority, added a bitbake-layers command sort-layers | 20:46 |
denix | fray: if layer priority is the same, recipe version will play next. if recipe versions are the same and recipe filenames are the same, BBFILES order is next | 20:46 |
denix | kergoth: sometimes it's confusing, but sometimes it could be your last resort to fix things unobtrusively... | 20:47 |
kergoth | eh, sometimes, usually i prefer just adding explicit preferences or bbappending a DEFAULT_PREFERENCE instead, though. or override a layer's BBFILE_PRIORITY in bblayers.conf.. | 20:48 |
fray | I just adjusted the priorites and I'm trying again.. I just find it odd that regular and eSDK get two different results | 20:49 |
denix | kergoth: heh, the worst I had to do is override 3rd-party layer's LAYERSERIES_COMPAT, which was too conservative... | 20:51 |
kergoth | if hte two layers have the same priority and the version isn't specified, the selection could be non-deterministic... i can't recall if bbfiles order is consistent right now | 20:51 |
kergoth | ahh yes, i've done that too, to hack around old nxp layers :) | 20:51 |
fray | Ya, that's why I checked the BBFILES order, it's the same in both cases, so it's something else causing different behavior | 20:52 |
fray | and maybe it's just purely non-deterministic in this case, but if that happens.. it might be something to look at (in the future) | 20:52 |
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khem | RP: seeing this http://sprunge.us/UfuZ37 | 21:18 |
khem | this is on aarch64 build machine | 21:18 |
khem | I wonder if uninative has something to do ? | 21:19 |
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RP | khem: what makes you think that is uninative? | 21:56 |
RP | khem: aarch64 has been on in testing on the AB... | 21:56 |
RP | khem: the busybox reproducible failure is still there, thought it had been fixed :/ | 21:56 |
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khem | RP: the busybox one yeah it will take some iterations, I think the one I sent makes the beginning, | 22:07 |
khem | applets.h is a generated file and the tools used in generation are not building consistent output | 22:08 |
RP | khem: looking at the diffoscope output, I'm betting its a sort being run under different locales | 22:08 |
RP | khem: ( and A-Z sorting differently | 22:08 |
khem | its just re-ordering the lines which effectively | 22:08 |
khem | yeah, thats where first I wanted to sort the cfgs and then next patch is to sort .config itself before feeding it to make oldconfig | 22:09 |
khem | problem is that you need two systems to see the difference so not easy to debug locally | 22:10 |
khem | on single system the header file always comes out one way | 22:10 |
khem | so for now, I would say hold the long options patch | 22:11 |
khem | the other one can go in. I think it has nothing to do with gcc11 | 22:11 |
khem | gcc11 just makes it more evident because of dwarf-5 debug info defaults | 22:12 |
khem | I think another fix I wanted to try was to call make gen_build_files explicitly in busybox do configure | 22:13 |
khem | so we can control when applets.h is generated | 22:13 |
RP | khem: I think I've seen this before, its the wildcarding in the gen_build_files.sh script | 22:16 |
RP | khem: the wildcards expand differently depending on the locale setting, e.g. non-utf8 vs utf8 | 22:16 |
khem | I see | 22:17 |
khem | so what was the way to fix it ? | 22:17 |
khem | sort ? | 22:17 |
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RP | khem: trying to remember :/ | 22:26 |
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khem | something like this https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=5541ba76ccc0c416f315bc0dc14a20a33059bd5f | 22:28 |
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RP | khem: that is a makefile fix, this is a shell script | 22:28 |
RP | khem: more like http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=2d2f017240cd2f0ee02635cf0a7d2a612b946ac1 | 22:29 |
khem | RP: interesting I wonder is the issue at hand due to dash Vs bash. | 22:31 |
khem | and why dont we set locale globally for builds once for all | 22:32 |
RP | khem: we do, which made the rsync issue all the more puzzling | 22:33 |
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khem | hmm | 22:33 |
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RP | khem: I can't reproduce the behaviour offhand | 22:35 |
khem | perhaps its using some host tools which is obstinate :) | 22:35 |
RP | khem: it will be some bash/dash host tools version + default locale problem | 22:36 |
khem | We should just containerize the build perhaps :) | 22:37 |
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RP | khem: better to fix these bits of non-determinism ;-) | 22:39 |
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khem | RP: should something like this help perhaps http://sprunge.us/180nel | 22:45 |
khem | RP: we allowed developers to have different distros and it quickly becomes unaffordable support burden, and this year infra team has started deploying containers and the support ticket graph is visibiliy very low | 22:47 |
RP | khem: something like that might work | 22:53 |
RP | khem: I understand but we are not doing so badly with the wider project | 22:54 |
khem | I am trying locally so see if it generates different .h with bash/dash lets see | 22:54 |
khem | if I can reproduce | 22:54 |
RP | khem: I need to sleep. Good Luck. If you don't get anywhere I can have a look tomorrow | 22:55 |
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khem | thanks RP gn :) | 22:56 |
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khem | RP: looks like bash/dash issue | 23:01 |
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khem | RP: patch is on ml | 23:17 |
khem | I tested it with local /bin/bash and /bin/dash and output it same before it was not. It was much like what we see in diffoscope so I think this should fix the issue | 23:17 |
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