Friday, 2021-07-02

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zeddRP: shockingly, it ended green. I'll send the libc-headers and 5.13 (without the default changes) on Friday.02:33
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yatesit is my qemucsky machine which i have created. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KXjWGFFKBz/03:25
yateskhem: ^^^^03:25
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khemyates:  hmm I see, you might need such a patch http://sprunge.us/C8RDXe03:41
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yateskhem: thanks for that. so after i apply that patch, i have four possible ways to implement changes to FILES/PACKAGE_NO_GCONV: no/no, no/yes, yes/no, yes/yes03:55
yatesbe aware that i'm running gatesgarth and glibc version 2.3203:58
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mckoangood morning06:48
LetoThe2ndyo dudX and mckoans06:49
mckoanLetoThe2nd: Yo! Jester06:52
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mckoanwhat does [m] mean in the names?07:32
LetoThe2ndmckoan: connected through a matrix bridge07:45
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mckoanLetoThe2nd: blue pill07:46
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LetoThe2ndheh yeah07:52
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bizulkHello ! I have an issue with the build, branch poky, tag dunfell-23.0.9. "git/missing: 81: flex: not found". I do have flex in my ubuntu. I guess this is missing in the yocto build that is missing.07:55
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RPbizulk: missing dependency on flex-native?07:56
LetoThe2ndbizulk: and this happens in a plain poky build?07:56
bizulklet me send you my pastbin : https://pastebin.com/ZVKV485S07:56
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bizulkRP this is what I guess from my search on google. Can I have that kind on issue with a tagged version ?07:57
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LetoThe2ndi would rather guess triple checking that flex ist actually installed on the host is due.07:58
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bizulkLetoThe2nd I have it. Installed it with apt, then tried flex -h08:00
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RPbizulk: It seems strange and it has worked fine during testing. I suspect something about the way your system patched bintuils triggered a dependency08:00
RPmeta/recipes-devtools/binutils/binutils.inc:DEPENDS = "flex-native bison-native zlib-native gnu-config-native autoconf-native" is there in master but not dunfell08:00
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LetoThe2nd.9 should also be current08:01
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LetoThe2ndbizulk: and this is a completely standard run of the mill ubuntu 20.04 running natively on x86-64 hw?08:02
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RPit is there on dunfell too08:04
bizulkLetoThe2nd I build it under a fresh install of ubuntu 20.04 running in VM (x86_64)08:06
LetoThe2ndhmm.08:07
bizulkRP yeah just checked that08:08
bizulkI ran manually the "missing" command and got : "updating lex.yysyslex.c"08:12
bizulkI'm not sure. Should it be using yocto's context or my host distribution for flex call ?08:14
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bizulkif I want to clean the current task for binutils-cross_2.34.bb, I use bitbake -c cleanstate binutils right ?08:23
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LetoThe2ndshould be bitbake -c clean binutils-cross, IMHO08:24
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bizulkLetoThe2nd -cross-86_64 or -cross-test_suite, I ran both08:29
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bizulkrebuild the binutils-cross still not working. Should I try another revision of poky ?08:57
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LetoThe2ndbizulk: could you try current master?09:12
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bizulkLetoThe2nd yes. git checkout HEAD ?09:12
LetoThe2ndbizulk: yup09:12
bizulkLetoThe2nd I'm not sure, git branch -v tell me : * (HEAD detached at 43060f59ba)09:16
LetoThe2ndbizulk: git checkout master09:16
patrick-rhello09:31
bizulkLetoThe2nd bitbake does not respond anymore "Timeout while waiting for a reply from the bitbake server (60s)"09:31
bizulkdeleting directory and rebuilding09:32
patrick-rlog.do_install complains about a file not found when the file is clearly there09:32
LetoThe2ndpatrick-r: like which? example?09:33
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patrick-rcontext: recipe says: SRC_URI="file://src.tgz file://keyboards.tgz" variable $[K}=${WORKDIR}/kbds do install() says install ${K}/file ${D}/usr/share/file and FILES_${PN} includes said file and the tgz mentionned in SRC_URI is present in ${WORKDIR}09:35
patrick-rI mean not the tgz, its content obviously09:36
qschulzpatrick-r: check with bitbake -e that your K variable is appropriately set09:37
patrick-rit is as the log.do_install error message says: cannot stat '/home/patrick/workspace/sti/variscite-bsp-base/build-x11/tmp/work/armv7at2hf-neon-fslc-linux-gnueabi/install/0.1-r0/kbds/keyboard.de.xml09:38
patrick-rthe file is there09:38
patrick-rand I am the owner of the file09:38
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patrick-rbitbake -e recipe report K="<very long path>" which is teh correct directory09:42
patrick-rq09:42
eduardashello, really need a anity check: the lua recipe in meta-openembedded does not generate liblua.so as a dynamic library?09:47
eduardashttp://cgit.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-oe/recipes-devtools/lua/lua_5.3.6.bb?h=master09:48
eduardasso something like luafilesystem is going to link the liblua.a static library as binary09:48
eduardashttps://github.com/sbabic/meta-swupdate/blob/master/recipes-lua/luafilesystem/luafilesystem_git.bb09:49
eduardasis my understanding of the situation correct?09:49
qschulzeduardas: usually non-versioned libraries are part of ${PN}-dev and not ${PN} where the versioned library lies (.so.x.y.z)09:50
qschulzyou can check with oe-pkgdata-util find-path '*liblua.so*' to find out if and which package has the lib you want09:50
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eduardasqschulz: ERROR: Unable to find any package producing path *liblua.so*10:20
eduardasso it is not there10:22
eduardasalso have manually looked through all of the packages that start with lua* in deploy directory10:23
eduardasthis is quite different to how Debian does packaging10:23
eduardashttps://packages.debian.org/sid/alpha/liblua5.3-0/filelist10:23
eduardasmay main question is whether this is intentional10:24
eduardasmy actual problem is getting SWUpdate IPC bindings to work on my system10:26
eduardashttps://pastebin.com/YBdJP4K810:26
qschulzeduardas: for oe-pkgdata-util to find the files, it needs bitbake to have built packages in the first place, so I guess you first have to make sure lua recipe was built10:26
eduardasqschulz: it gets built10:26
eduardasfor sure10:26
eduardasother lua bindings from other projects build and work too10:26
eduardaslike luafilesystem, etc.10:26
qschulzeduardas: you can also try to figure out if the lua packages are correctly set, by running oe-pkgdata-util list-pkgs and then oe-pkgdata-util list-pkg-files <pn>10:26
eduardaslua-cjson10:26
eduardasand so on10:26
qschulzah ok10:26
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eduardasqschulz: my actual question is whether the meta-openembedded lua recipe is really written in such a way that only static linking for lua bindings is possible?10:28
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eduardaskanavin: hello. since it seems you've contributed to the lua recipe in meta-openembedded, could you comment on my question?10:34
eduardasinterestingly enough the Lua developers write "Do Not Link Modules to the Lua Core Libraries"10:35
eduardashere: http://lua-users.org/wiki/BuildingModules10:35
eduardasso I'm not sure why that is the default for meta-openembedded10:36
eduardasmeta-openembedded does not seem to contain any Lua binding library recipes itself, though10:36
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kanavineduardas, unfortunately I cannot10:51
eduardaskanavin: is there an expert for Lua in OE in the Yocto community?10:52
eduardasand do people even care?10:52
kanavineduardas, we are all volunteers, please keep that in mind.10:53
kanavinif you have a problem, it's on you to do the needed investigation and fixing. Or hire a consultant and pay them.10:54
eduardaskanavin: I am aware. but I'd be happy even if I was given access to a paid consultant in this case10:54
kanavineduardas, you can hire me.10:54
rburtoneduardas: if the recipe does what upstream say not to do, then patches welcome10:55
eduardasrburton: well, since I'm not really a Lua expert.. I am still trying to figure out ehether that is the case10:56
eduardasrburton: perhaps there are some substantial motivations why the recipe is the way it is10:57
eduardasjust I am not really aware of them10:57
rburtonor maybe its just always been that way10:57
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jonesv[m]Do you guys know where I should ask about sysvinit?12:01
jonesv[m]I am trying to run `start-stop-daemon [...] --background --no-close -- $ARGS > /var/log/my-log 2&>1`, but with the busybox `start-stop-daemon`, `--no-close` does not exist.12:01
jonesv[m]An alternative that works is to run `start-stop-daemon [...] -- $ARGS > /var/log/my-log 2&>1 &` (i.e. replace `--background` by `&`), but it feels like it's not doing the same, and probably that's wrong 🙈. Do you know a channel where I could ask about that?12:01
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rburtonanyone know scsi_debug?12:06
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jonesv[m]Actually out of curiosity: do you guys ever use sysvinit? Or does everyone move to systemd these days? I am using the default sysvinit (busybox) that comes with poky, but I am not sure if anybody uses it at all 😕. Almost tempted to move to S6 if that's possible13:12
LetoThe2ndjonesv[m]: we use it for some forms of rescue/config/updater systems.13:15
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jonesv[m]And what do you use as a default?13:18
LetoThe2ndwhy "default"13:22
LetoThe2ndfor recuse/config/updater systems we use sysv, for application images we use systemd. where is no default, its different usecases.13:23
jonesv[m]right13:25
jonesv[m]But then you use the sysv/busybox? That's what I seem to get by "default" with poky (that's why I called it default)13:25
LetoThe2ndah you mean the provider for sysv? yes, the busybox one.13:26
jonesv[m]Got it13:28
jonesv[m]I'm just having a hard time saving log output to `/var/log/my-daemon` with busybox, because it does not have `--no-close`, and `--background` alone seems to kill the log output. And I'm frustrated because I don't seem to find documentation about that :D13:29
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mcfriskusing systemd, it's a complex beast but enables good things like cgroups and memory limits. worth the effort in the end..13:31
JPEWYa, we switched to systemd and it's been a net win13:35
jonesv[m]Right13:39
jonesv[m]I asked on SO, but I'm not expecting an answer, and probably next week I'll move to S6 or systemd: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68225679/daemon-not-logging-in-background-with-busybox13:41
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qschulzJPEW: re: pyrex. For some reason, it struggles to find my SSH AUTH SOCK (bear in mind, might be a user issue since I'm trying to use sway instead of gnome, so no gnome-keyring started by default or similar)13:50
qschulz(though I have started ssh-agent and it works fine in any terminal I open locally13:51
JPEWqschulz: Do you get an error?13:52
qschulzno, bitbake just straight out refuses to fetch the repo13:52
JPEWHmm13:52
qschulzHost key verification failed. is what I have basically13:52
qschulzJPEW: 2nd question 2) https://github.com/garmin/pyrex/blob/master/image/capture.sh#L80 why are there arguments to the source command? It's not POSIX compliant and couldn't find a user in the codebase when I quickly checked. (asking because of shellcheck, trying to send something your way soon-ish)13:55
qschulzJPEW: forgot to say, running with podman on fedora 34 with zsh14:03
JPEWIt's run under bash, so the arguments *should* be OK14:03
JPEWrun under bash inside the container14:03
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qschulzJPEW: I know the arguments passed ot source should be ok, it';s just not friend with POSIX shellcheck which I plan to add to github actions so that we know more or less that the scripts are supposed to run on any shell14:08
qschulz(excluding the arrays, which will be shellchecked with bash, anyway, you'll see the merge request :) though the question remains, what is this used for? is this some kind of leftover of some development or something I missed while going through the code?)14:09
JPEWqschulz: That's fine, but that specific script runs in the controlled container, so I don't think it needs to run on "any shell"14:09
JPEWrunning shellcheck on pyrex-init-build-env (or any other script that runs on the *host*) would be great14:10
JPEWqschulz: Basically, it's a requirement that the container provide bash, so there isn't a reason to avoid bashisms on anything that run *in the container*14:11
qschulzJPEW: indeed, it does not make sense. So... lint, pyrex-init-build-env and mkconfig are the only scripts possibly running on the host I guess14:12
JPEWqschulz: Yep14:12
JPEWqschulz: ci/prepare.sh also14:13
JPEWqschulz: If you want to make the rules easier, you can probably ignore any shell scripts in "image/"14:14
JPEWThose are the ones that will run in the container14:14
qschulzworks for me :) 👍14:14
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JPEWqschulz: I'm not sure on the SSH_AUTH_SOCK... it's possible it's broken.... I don't think we use it here14:15
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patrick-rhello15:02
patrick-ragain15:02
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patrick-rsmall problem compiling image after a GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES typo, in effect if my image includes glibc glibc-utils and localedef it will fail because it doesn't find the directory containing the i18n generation files15:04
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patrick-rso what should I nuke now that the typo has been corrected to remove the faulty build which persists?15:05
patrick-rtried bitbake -c cleanall glibc glibc-utils, that didn't change  and when trying bitbake -c cleanall glibc-locales it replies that nothing provides that15:06
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khemabelloni:  I have reproduced the problem on ppc as well as mips, its a regression introduced recently in recvmsg implementation in glibc lets see if we can find a good fix for this instead of reverting offending two commits causing it15:21
yateskhem: thanks for that. so after i apply that patch, i have four possible ways to proceed regarding the previous changes to FILES/PACKAGE_NO_GCONV: no/no, no/yes, yes/no, yes/yes15:25
yateswhat is "package splitting" anyway?15:26
khemyates:  yeah, package splitting helps to make smaller fine grained ipks/rpms which can help to avoid installing pieces you dont really need15:27
yatesi see15:27
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khemthere are default packages but recipes can add even more fine granular packages, you can literally package 1 file in 1 package and get to file level granularity when constructing image. Its not practical though, because your IMAGE_INSTALL will be huge15:28
khempatrick-r:  can you describe your issue a bit more ?15:28
kheme.g. what errors do you see15:28
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khemyates:  is csky still vibrant arch ? I thought once Alibaba aquired it they might have switched them to use RISCV15:38
khemsomewhere I read they already adopted RISCV15:40
yateskhem: we're doing active development for Geehy on it, so I guess so15:43
abellonikhem: yes, it also happens on arm, I was goind to send an email about that15:43
yatesthere are other processors which i'm not involved in, maybe those are what you heard about15:44
yatesi'm just the peon, though..15:44
khemabelloni:  ok, I think all 32bit arches except RV32 will have this issue, one workaround is to set OLDEST_KERNEL = "5.1"15:45
khemyates:  you might want to re-evaluate 🙂  niche architectures have huge Software cost15:45
yatesso i'm still confused regarding the patch you provided: 1) if i was able to get through the recipe with no errors, do i really need it? and 2) if I do pull it in, would that change my need to set FILES and would that change my need modify the PACKAGE_NO_GCONV ?= "1" varaible initialization?15:46
abellonifor csky, I heard they would keep the arch alive because it has educational value15:46
abellonibut they will not use it on actual products anymore15:46
yatesabelloni: where did you "hear" this?15:47
abelloniIIRC, from the csky kernel maintainer15:48
yateshow long ago?15:48
abellonia while ago, when we were discussing removing it from the kernel15:48
khemx86/arm/riscv are going to be the only game in town15:49
abelloniprobably, yes15:49
abelloniyates: march 201815:49
khemand 64bit even on MCIUs15:49
khemI have tried to use ARC based SOC and every now and then it would be painful to get general s/w tools e.g. valgrind etc. working since ports do not exist15:50
yateskhem: do you have the same crystal ball on the stock market? if so, fill me in.15:50
yatesARC?15:51
khemyates:  I do, and my friends make money  not doing what I say :)15:51
abellonihttp://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1810.3/03125.html15:52
abelloniso, in a discussion, with arnd, between march 2018 and oct 201815:53
yatesso i'm still confused regarding the patch you provided: 1) if i was able to get through the recipe with no errors, do i really need it? and 2) if I do pull it in, would that change my need to set FILES and would that change my need modify the PACKAGE_NO_GCONV ?= "1" varaible initialization?15:54
yateskhem: ^^^^15:54
khemyes you need it if you wan to generate localedata15:58
khembut if you do not need that then ignore it15:59
yatesabelloni: i see the message, thanks.16:02
yateskhem: i thought the QA issue is that the locale data is being generated (and that is without that patch), but it was not being packaged. is this not the case?16:05
khemyates:  its perhaps but it will be not correct16:05
yatesok, that makes sense16:06
yatesso the full answer to my question, just to make certain i understand you, is 1) yes it is needed, and 2) yes, i still need to set FILES and modify the PACKAGE_NO_GCONV initializaiton. is this correct?16:09
yatesinitialization16:10
yatesabelloni and khem: this is a recent website update, so no, it's not going away if Geehy has anything to say about it: https://www.geehy.com/soc16:15
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khemyates:  I am not sure why FILES addition is needed, since csky is not doing anything different so the path should have been packaged otherwise we should see this issue with other arches too so not too sure whats going on there16:21
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yatesok let me do some more tinkering/analysis16:41
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jordemortalso asking in the u-boot channel but i think i might actually have all the u-boot stuff right at this point - i'm trying to boot a fit image over tftp; the image has my kernel, my dtb, and my initramfs bundled into it. when all of these things are loaded separately as legacy images, everything works fine; when packed together into a fit image, the kernel boots, but seems to ignore the initramfs (it goes from trying to unpack to immediately16:48
jordemortfreeing the memory)16:48
jordemortmy best guess is that my initramfs is getting put into the fit in the wrong format somehow, such that the kernel can't unpack it16:49
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jordemortany ideas? i have IMAGE_FSTYPES = "cpio.gz" for my intramfs, and then INITRAMFS_IMAGE_BUNDLE = "1", INITRAMFS_FSTYPES = "cpio.gz", KERNEL_CLASSES += "kernel-fitimage", KERNEL_IMAGETYPES = "fitImage" in my conf17:07
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khemjordan[m]: it should have bundled the kernel+initramfs into a single kernel image and perhaps fitimage is using the unbundled kernel image17:50
khemboth images will be in deploy17:50
abelloniyates: well, there is a difference between we make a new soc with a legacy CPU and this CPU architecture is supported17:51
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jordemortkhem[m]: yeah i'm sure i'm using the bundled image, it's named something like fitImage-imagename--kernelname and it's the biggest thing in the directory, u-boot sees and loads a ramdisk, the kernel sees that there's something there too, but doesn't know what to do with it and frees it18:33
jordemortis there a way i can disassemble the fitImage into its components so i can check what's actually embedded there?18:34
patrick-rhow do i add unicode font to yocto image that will display chinese characters in bash or my application?18:36
patrick-rbash displays squares and application displays nothing18:37
patrick-rhave added zh_CN locale18:37
patrick-rand that works and I cna switch to it18:37
patrick-rany idea?18:37
patrick-rreason seems to be that the installed font(s) even if unicode, do not have CJK glyphs18:41
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derRichardi'd like to pass extra argument to the strip command when stripping binaries built by my recipe. i thought this should do it: STRIP_append_pn-mypackage = " --strip-debug" since the manual on the STRIP variable says "The minimal command and arguments to run strip, which is used to strip symbols.".18:57
derRichardbut this fails badly since the whole STRIP variable is used as executable18:58
derRicharde.g. it tries to exec the file "strip --strip-debug" ;-\18:58
derRichardis the documentation wrong?19:00
khemlook into .its file in deploy dir19:07
derRichardkhem: ah, this is for patrick-r :)19:10
khemyes and for you19:13
khemlook into meta/lib/oe/package.py19:14
khemrunstrip function implements it19:14
khemyou might want to stick the option there, OE does not provide a user hook to pass additional flags to strip cmd19:14
derRichardkhem: i'm looking at both meta/lib/oe/package.py and meta/classes/package.bbclass right now19:14
khemsince its a special operation19:15
derRichardthe documentation seems wrong to me. STRIP is the minimal command. and not command+arguments19:15
derRichardkhem: how much do you hate this patch? http://paste.debian.net/plainh/6c11a01e19:24
derRichard:-)19:24
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chrfleHello, is [vardeps] valid for prefuncs also and not only tasks?19:33
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bizulkHello. Having trouble with building core-image-minimal on poky/master. Error is : "ERROR: No space left on device or exceeds fs.inotify.max_user_watches?"19:43
bizulkI have 175 G left.19:43
bizulksysctl -n fs.inotify.max_user_watches returns 65536. I'm not sure of what it is. First time I see that error.19:44
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derRichardbizulk: are you building in a container or some other restricted environment?19:48
bizulkderRichard Yes in virtualbox19:50
bizulkhost windows10, guest ubuntu 2019:50
bizulkseems to be related to kernel capacity, which I can put to higher level19:51
derRichardwell, this is a full vm.19:51
derRichardso, no funky container restrictions :)19:51
bizulkderRichard ah, you were expecting some "docker" answer19:52
derRichardmaybe ubuntu 20 has set some other limits. i don't know19:53
derRichardbizulk: in any case, looks like you run into a inotify limitation.19:56
derRichardis your project stored on a real linux filesystem or some shared filesystem?19:56
bizulkderRichard : I put twice the value it seems to go one.19:57
bizulkderRichard no, local VMDK19:57
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khemabelloni:  I have fixed the glibc issue and pushed a patch to https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=kraj/glibc-2.3420:36
khemplease cherry pick and give it a shot again20:36
abellonisure, will do20:37
abellonispeaking of 64b time, I think you pushed incorrect fixes for __NR_futex a while ago20:40
abelloniI'm not sure this was subsequently fixed for arm3220:41
khemwhich one?20:42
abellonithis would be an example:20:55
abellonihttps://patchwork.openembedded.org/patch/177310/20:55
abelloniah I see you had that discussion in january while submitting that to perf20:56
khemWhat issue do you see ?20:59
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abelloniwell, not defining __NR_futex was done on purpose so we could catch all the application that are not checking the size of time_t21:12
abelloniyour patch is hiding the issue and so we won't have any chance to fix that properly and provide an upgrade path for the other 32b platforms21:12
khemIt’s only doing so for architectures where it matters21:13
khemGlibc wants apps to use SYS_futex so details should have been hidden in glibc  but it was not21:15
patrick-rhow do I restart complete build in other words how do I safely nuke the current build?21:15
abellonibut when e.g. amr will gain 64b time_t support, it will still have __NR_futex21:18
abellonis/amr/arm/21:18
abelloniand so applications with21:19
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abelloni#if !defined(SYS_futex) && defined(SYS_futex_time64)21:19
abelloni# define SYS_futex SYS_futex_time6421:20
abelloniwill break in 203821:20
abelloniinstead of breaking at compile time right now21:20
abelloniand so we won't know until it is too late21:20
khemwell, arm already has it if you kernel 5.1+21:28
abelloniI believe that on the kernel side, every arch has it now21:29
khemalthough your point is correct21:31
khembut breaking apps is not the way perhaps a warning diagnostics is the way to inform21:31
abelloniwell, one could argue they are not broken, they were never working on rv32 in the frst place21:32
khemalthough it wont be breaking what we have till 2038 even without this patch, but it does not improve the situation either21:33
abelloniand chacking sizeof(time_t) would have already worked21:33
abelloniwhich is the proper solution21:33
khemtime_t is abstract type so sizeof check is not right thing to do,  there are many libc implementations21:34
khemmigrating uses of SYS_futex to SYS_futex_time64 and making needed changes to consume it in apps might be required and perhaps done anyway21:39
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abellonithe question being: who will be aware of that and do it before 203821:50
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jordemortaha i figured it out, it seems like INITRAMFS_IMAGE_BUNDLE is the wrong thing when building a fitImage22:25
jordemorti set that to 0 and now everything comes up as expected22:26
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