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| qschulz | michaelo[m]: thanks for bouncing the mails to bitbake-devel, completely forgot about that | 06:38 |
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| qschulz | vd: after the inherit. ay check it does what you want with bitbake -e <recipe> | grep ^RDEPENDS or bitbake-getvar | 07:14 |
| qschulz | anyway you can check* | 07:15 |
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| qschulz | vd: maybe you could do something by relocating the binaries/libs of your package to a different directory that wic would put on another partition? or maybe you can tell wic to take some specific files and put them in a separate partition. Maybe you can explain a bit more what's the use case for havng a package without dependencies in an image and its dependencies in another | 07:17 |
| qschulz | ? | 07:17 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 08:41 |
| qschulz | o/ | 08:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | \o/ | 08:41 |
| mckoan | hey | 08:42 |
| major_orange | Hey all | 08:53 |
| major_orange | What does a "bootimage" mean to you? As far I can get the terminology it's a single file which has the kernel, bootloader and rootfs correctly put together so it can be flashed on a storage device without worrying about offsets. | 08:55 |
| major_orange | So it would be somewhat correct to say that the .wic extension usually represents a bootimage. | 08:57 |
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| LetoThe2nd | major_orange: well, as the term "bootimage" is not exactly defined, its a little bit futile to ask what people associate with it. me, i've never used it, for example. | 09:04 |
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| wyre | how long is supported a LTS version? | 09:18 |
| wyre | (years, I mean) | 09:18 |
| rburton | at least 2. there is talk of extending dunfell for longer. | 09:20 |
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| RP | dl9pf: smurray: is hardknott a supported agl target? | 09:29 |
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| linums | hi | 11:51 |
| linums | is there any irc for the meta-cloud-services layers? | 11:52 |
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| rburton | no specifically, as far as i'm aware | 12:02 |
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| linums | and I guess that issues with packages over there are not the topic of this irc channel right? | 12:05 |
| rburton | the README says the maintainer is Bruce Ashfield, who is zeddii here, so unless there's a better channel, here is good | 12:05 |
| linums | great, thanks | 12:06 |
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| linums | and in general, what should happen, if a layer brings a package, which requires way older version of libs from core layers than they are right now? | 12:09 |
| linums | specifically my issue is with the salt package, and the zmq | 12:10 |
| rburton | sounds like your layers are not on the same branch | 12:20 |
| rburton | are you using oe-core dunfell and cloud-services master? | 12:20 |
| linums | I am using dunfell | 12:24 |
| linums | but there is no compile time error at all | 12:24 |
| rburton | are you using dunfell of cloud-services too? | 12:24 |
| linums | but I face a strange behavior from the salt minions, they just lose connection | 12:24 |
| linums | right | 12:24 |
| linums | dunfell for everything | 12:24 |
| * rburton shrugs. wait for zeddii to wake | 12:25 | |
| linums | but I observed this behavior on hardknott, on master, and really a long time ago on morty | 12:25 |
| linums | right, thanks | 12:25 |
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| RP | 32 bit API on centos8 looks broken again :( | 12:29 |
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| kanavin | RP: was a bug filed for it? | 12:40 |
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| paulg | no free pass on centos issues now that it is in its lame-duck period? | 12:49 |
| * paulg runs | 12:49 | |
| RP | kanavin: not yet. Basically the SDK failures on centos8 from cmake are from it :/ | 12:50 |
| kanavin | paulg, centos 8 stream has the same issue | 12:51 |
| rfs613 | how do they break the 2nd-most common api and not notice? | 12:53 |
| kanavin | rfs613, only broken for 32 bit binaries | 12:53 |
| kanavin | it's tempting to suggest we should stop supporting i686 SDKs... | 12:54 |
| rfs613 | sure, but there are still plenty of those, for example almost all the Xilinx/Altera tools have 32-bit binaries and require installation of glibc.i686 etc. | 12:55 |
| RP | rfs613: they added y2038 fixes basically | 12:55 |
| kanavin | rfs613, the issue is not visible with centos's own (older) libc, only with the newer libc from our SDKs | 12:56 |
| rfs613 | oh i see. | 12:57 |
| kanavin | RP: is there still a use case/users for i686 SDKs? If we want to test SDKMACHINE across several archs, aarch64 is probably becoming more relevant? | 12:59 |
| RP | kanavin: It is a good test of the system and that our 32 bit generation works so I'd be reluctant to remove it | 13:00 |
| * RP would prefer to drop centos but probably can't either | 13:01 | |
| RP | Feels like we're struggling for autobuilder power today :( | 13:02 |
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| smurray | RP: not hardknott specifically, the AGL next branch is intended to track poky master. Looks like I need to bump the layer.conf's to honnister in it | 13:14 |
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| RP | smurray: so the config for hardknott in ab-helper should be removed? | 13:17 |
| smurray | RP: at this point I'd say yes, the fix for the systemd update I made yesterday won't work against what's in hardknott | 13:18 |
| RP | smurray: ok, I'll do that | 13:18 |
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| smurray | RP: is it possible for me to grab the buildtools tarball the autobuilder uses and test with it locally? | 13:34 |
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| Guest8 | How can I add the linux kernel headers to my build? | 13:40 |
| rburton | Guest8: to build an out-of-tree kernel module? | 13:52 |
| Guest8 | rburton yes | 13:52 |
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| rburton | Guest8: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/kernel-dev/common.html#incorporating-out-of-tree-modules | 13:52 |
| Guest8 | don't know how I missed that, I searched to find a specific layer, thanks rburton! | 13:53 |
| Guest8 | =D | 13:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest8: https://youtu.be/zYyE-xah7jg | 13:55 |
| Guest8 | (y) | 13:55 |
| Guest8 | perfect | 13:55 |
| LetoThe2nd | i know i am, but thanks for confirming :D | 13:56 |
| Guest8 | :') | 13:57 |
| RP | smurray: sure, the url is listed in the helper config.json | 13:59 |
| smurray | RP: I may not need it, Fedora 34 has python 3.9.6 so I'm testing with | 14:00 |
| smurray | err, with it | 14:00 |
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| paulbarker | RP: Any thoughts on https://lists.openembedded.org/g/bitbake-devel/topic/patch_1_1_parse_ast/84337769 ? | 14:02 |
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| major_orange | Is anyone building inside docker and has solved the namespace mappings? That the host user can access the output of the build without having permission issues. | 14:08 |
| qschulz | major_orange: pyrex from garmin, poky/yocto containers from CROPS and kas from siemens should be able to handle that just fine | 14:09 |
| qschulz | all available on github | 14:09 |
| qschulz | pyrex works on podman and zsh, I can attest :) | 14:09 |
| major_orange | qschulz: Thanks | 14:10 |
| RP | paulbarker: I meant to queue/ test that | 14:10 |
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| qschulz | I managed to get CROPS to work on podman too with: podman run --rm -it -v $SSH_AUTH_SOCK:/tmp/ssh_auth_sock -e SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh_auth_sock -e SSH_AGENT_PID -v ~/.ssh/known_hosts:/home/pokyuser/.ssh/known_hosts:ro --uidmap 0:1:$UID --uidmap $UID:0:1 --gidmap 0:1:$GID --gidmap $GID:0:1 --security-opt label=disable crops/poky-eol:debian-8 | 14:11 |
| RP | paulbarker: sorry about the delay. It is queued locally so will make it through the system now | 14:15 |
| paulbarker | RP: No problem, just thought I'd ping as I hadn't seen it queued :) | 14:15 |
| Ad0 | how can I be sure my kernel .config is used. is the resulting file used in kernel build always the name ".config" or is it some variable? | 14:26 |
| Ad0 | .config is in like 3 different places and looks nothing like my defconfig which I know was copied over | 14:31 |
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| smurray | RP: it almost looks like registry.freajs.org used by one of the bitbake selftests is down/gone... | 14:43 |
| smurray | RP: it's at least not resolving for me here now | 14:43 |
| RP | smurray: right, its in the npm tests which we disable on the autobuilder as we don't have node there | 14:44 |
| RP | smurray: I noticed it too locally yesterday | 14:44 |
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| Ad0 | I did SRC_URI += "file://defconfig", it's the correct dir it's in, and I unset KBUILD_DEFCONFIG | 14:45 |
| Ad0 | . so what gives | 14:45 |
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| Ad0 | do I hve to use KBUILD_DEFCONFIG ? | 14:48 |
| vd | qschulz the use case for separating an application from its dependencies is to move a proprietary application in a small secure overlay | 14:52 |
| vd | (I do it manually at the moment) | 14:52 |
| fray | I had a user report a problem to me. They're modifying a recipe that contains a text file with a versioning string. However, when they go to build the rootfs image, it does NOT rebuild the rootfs. The versioning recipe IS in SIGGEN_EXCLUDE_SAFE_RECIPE_DEPS, so I'm wondering if that is causing the image recipe to ignore the change and just reload from the sstate cache? | 14:52 |
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| vd | qschulz from a config file (e.g. a multiconfig) maybe I might be able to do something like TMPDEP := RDEPENDS_pn-foo ; RDEPENDS_pn-foo = ""? | 15:29 |
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| vd | the idea being "append the list of dependencies for package foo there, then clear it" | 15:37 |
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| paulbarker | Looks like I've lost my account on wiki.yoctoproject.org, password reset email isn't coming through | 15:52 |
| RP | paulbarker: halstead should be able to help | 15:52 |
| halstead | paulbarker: I'll check the logs. | 15:54 |
| paulbarker | halstead: It may have an old email address registered | 15:54 |
| paulbarker | halstead: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/User:Paul_Barker exists | 15:55 |
| halstead | paulbarker: Perhaps. I'll PM you. | 15:55 |
| fray | I've verified the above is still happening. Is there a way to ignore the SIGGEN_EXCLUDE_SAFE_RECIPE_DEPS for image recipes? The format it's currently specified is "*->my_recipe", so when I modify my_recipe image doesn't rebuild | 15:58 |
| fray | I want it so everything is teh system ignores "my_recipe" _EXCEPT_ images, if I change it, I want a rebuild | 15:59 |
| fray | 'er new rootfs | 15:59 |
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| RP | fray: I'm not sure how you'd do that | 16:00 |
| fray | I couldn't find anything in the docs that explained the difference between the two. They both have nearly the same explanation that they just exclude the recipes from the hash calculation | 16:00 |
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| fray | what I am trying to achieve. If ANYTHING changes in my_recipe, rebuilt it.. and reconstruct the rootfs. but do NOT rebuild anything else in the system, as it's not necessary.. | 16:02 |
| paulbarker | Wiki issue fixed | 16:06 |
| paulbarker | tlwoerner and anyone else interested: An initial list of Yocto Project related talks at ELC 2021 is at https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Embedded_Linux_Conference_2021 | 16:07 |
| tlwoerner | paulbarker: thanks :-) | 16:08 |
| paulbarker | tlwoerner: I'll post them on twitter | 16:08 |
| mckoan | paulbarker: thanks | 16:09 |
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| thecomet | Hey guys I'm having trouble with pkgconfig. I'm trying to link to libnl-3.0 and libnl-genl-3.0. In my recipe file, I have DEPENDS="libnl" but when I try to call "pkg-config --libs libnl-genl-3.0" it tells me that the package could not be found | 16:16 |
| thecomet | "pkg-config --libs lignl-3.0" works though | 16:16 |
| rburton | did you remember to inherit pkgconfig in the recipe? | 16:16 |
| thecomet | It seems I forgot | 16:17 |
| paulbarker | https://twitter.com/yoctoproject/status/1420054013488336905 | 16:20 |
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| thecomet | rburton: Thanks, that fixed it | 16:21 |
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| RP | zeddii: Could https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14491 be from the 5.13 headers? Can we upgrade systemtap? | 16:23 |
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| zeddii | maybe ? and probably (the upgrade). But hasn't that been passing up until now ? It was in my local testing with 5.13 headers | 16:30 |
| RP | zeddii: that is the bit that puzzles me :/ | 16:31 |
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| linums | oh hi zeddii, I hv a question about meta-cloud-services layer, R U the the right person to ask? | 16:34 |
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| RP | zeddii: I've asked for more info | 16:39 |
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| smurray | RP: I've sent a v5 of the pr server patches, tested on both debian 10 and F34 (has python 3.9.6) | 17:47 |
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| JPEW | RP, sakoman: What layers are CVEs tracked on? | 19:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: hopefully a commonly vulnerable one. | 19:35 |
| * LetoThe2nd ducks and runs. | 19:35 | |
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| override | hey, what meta-layer has the recipes for uboot, where I can change stuff like bootargs? | 19:41 |
| JPEW | override: oe-core has u-boot, but it's commonly appended (or outright replaced) by BSP layers | 19:42 |
| override | JPEW: is there a way I can quickly track what all is appending to u-boot? blanking out a little about how recipe appends worked | 19:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | bitbake -e, as usual | 19:44 |
| JPEW | `bitbake -e` will tell you that in the header at the top of the file. `bitbake-layers show-appends` can also show you | 19:45 |
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| override | thanks | 19:45 |
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| whuang0389 | is systemd default target the first target that gets runned? | 20:06 |
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| michaelo[m] | Something easier is to check the configuration that is used for your kernel: | 20:08 |
| khem | whuang0389: can you clarify a bit more ? | 20:08 |
| michaelo[m] | > bitbake linux-yocto -c menuconfig | 20:08 |
| michaelo[m] | See https://docs.yoctoproject.org/kernel-dev/common.html#configuring-the-kernel | 20:08 |
| michaelo[m] | <Ad0 "how can I be sure my kernel .con"> What you could do is set CONFIG_IKCONFIG (https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/init/Kconfig#L667) so that your configuration is built in your kernel. You can then compare the configuration of the running kernel vs the one you wanted to use. | 20:08 |
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| whuang0389 | @khem, just trying to understand systemd. but I have a weston image that has SYSTEMD_DEFAULT_TARGET="graphical.target". I don't want to boot into a GUI, so I thought setting SYSTEMD_DEFAULT_TARGET="multi-user.target" would do the trick, but it didnt | 20:11 |
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| whuang0389 | i see there's a line that has 'AFTER=multi-user.target' that in graphical.target.. i guess that makes it start the gui anyways | 20:14 |
| khem | if you do not want graphical target then easier way is to build a console only image like core-image-full-cmdline | 20:16 |
| whuang0389 | i need a gui.. jsut messing around to see if I can get the GUI to not start when it boots | 20:17 |
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| JPEW | whuang0389: Something else is probably dragging in the GUI into the graph | 20:23 |
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| splatch_ | good evening | 20:25 |
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| splatch_ | I did stuck upon grub/swupdate a while ago. Turned out that my issue was grub config. Now I tuned it a bit, so it does select a valid bzimage but it still does not boot. Looks like grub gets stuck at "code32_start = 2200000". My grub config entry calls this: | 20:27 |
| splatch_ | linux /boot/bzImage rootwait root=LABEL=rootfsA rootfstype=ext4 console=ttyS0,115200 verbose | 20:27 |
| splatch_ | similar thing worked before, but with default /boot partition. Now I swap grub root partition depending on active partition managed by swupdate. | 20:28 |
| splatch_ | I obviously miss something which is in old /dev/sda1/boot but not in /dev/sda2/boot | 20:28 |
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| Ad0 | thanks michaelo[m] | 20:48 |
| yates_work | where in the build directory are the fetched and patched sources? i want to check a patch to make sure it's being applied | 20:48 |
| yates_work | or otherwise is there a better way to do that? | 20:49 |
| Ad0 | but I am at a point where I have necessary changes for it to actually boot in my kernel config so I need to verify it at yocto level | 20:49 |
| rburton | yates_work: tmp/work/[machine]/[recipe]/[version]/${S} | 20:51 |
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| khem | whuang0389: in that case systemctl disable graphics.target might help | 22:03 |
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