Tuesday, 2021-09-28

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moto-timokanavin_: phosh boots now https://github.com/moto-timo/meta-phosh/tree/timo/phosh-0.13.101:14
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perdmannqschulz: Thanks for your help. sadly i forgot the name of the other guy who helped me :( But in the end it worked. I dont know exactly why but it makes a difference if i use ${TOPDIR} directly or the BBPATH variable ...06:38
perdmannwith TOPDIR directly it works.06:38
JosefHolzmayrTheyo dudX06:41
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mckoangood morning06:50
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kanavin_moto-timo, \0/ does it look nice?07:03
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qschulzjaskij[m]: interesting for the time needed to build the dot file, I had a 12-core CPU with 32GB of RAM at my previous job and it took hours to produce something totally unusable07:54
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qschulzjaskij[m]: I had issues moving from 4.14 to 5.4 on an i.MX8MM and it was due to a need for a different ATF version for 5.407:57
qschulzBBPATH is a colon-separated list of paths, so that make sense yes. When you create a layer, you add your path to that list. So yes, using BBPATH is a bad idea :)08:00
jaskij[m]<qschulz> "jaskij: interesting for the time..." <- My image *is* fairly small, plus I've noticed that graphviz is purely single core (tbf, afaik that kind of stuff doesn't parallelize well, if at all). Which particular CPU? Many of those high core count chips have bad single core.08:00
qschulzperdmann: ^ (two messages above)08:00
qschulzjaskij[m]: i7-870008:01
jaskij[m]qschulz: ATF? That acronym eludes me at the moment08:01
qschulzjaskij[m]: arm trusted firmware08:01
jaskij[m]Mhm. The issue here is that, I believe, you can't update the trusted firmware without updating the bios-like firmware for the embedded Cortex-M4. And that one is closed source, with binaries provided by the SoM vendor.08:03
* qschulz shrugs08:03
qschulzjaskij[m]: quite funny that for a security feature you're stuck on an old kernel+atf :)08:05
jaskij[m]Yup. Thankfully this project is mostly part of a closed system. From what I've been told most of our deployments won't even have internet access08:06
qschulzjaskij[m]: Internet access is the most obvious way to get your device pwned but not the only one :)08:07
jaskij[m]Stuxnet comes to mind :D08:07
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jaskij[m]Hopefully we can move to an i.MX8MP SoM, that one shouldn't have an SDK older than 5.408:09
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wCPOCan Yocto use only a single recipe from a layer and ignore all the other bbappend files??08:17
JosefHolzmayrThewCPO: if one really wants that, BBMASK can probably be forced to do so.08:20
qschulzbut if it's really only a single recipe, just take that one out of the layer and ditch it?08:21
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JosefHolzmayrThethat would be my way too.08:24
wCPOLikely what I'm gonna do. The meta-amd layer is patching recipes and I don't see any good reasons for it, ex: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-amd/tree/meta-amd-bsp/recipes-core/initrdscripts08:28
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glembo[m]I would like to add a file to the SDK.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/0fc5ef2edab9fcce63c94077789fbd9cd7afc967)09:55
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user_123can anyone help me in including orcania, yder, ulfius packages in yocto10:49
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JosefHolzmayrTheuser_123: if you try yourself and get stuck, somebody might be able to help. https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#new-recipe-writing-a-new-recipe10:54
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qschulzJosefHolzmayrThe: stop linking the old doc website :D10:56
JosefHolzmayrTheqschulz: it says "latest" :P10:56
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qschulzJosefHolzmayrThe: good point... I'm still waiting for some freetime and CSS/HTML inspiration to code a big red header section on the old website10:59
qschulzand I would also want to have this header always stay at the top of the current view (not the page, the view), so that we can't miss it11:00
qschulz(and do the same change for the new docs for old releases too)11:01
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jaskij[m]new version does show it, although it isn't floating - guess that's what you want to change?11:02
JosefHolzmayrTheand make that header incorporate a link to the new one.11:02
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qschulzjaskij[m]: yes11:04
qschulzJosefHolzmayrThe: yes11:04
qschulzjaskij[m]: the issue I have right now is with my limited CSS/HTML knowledge, I can have the header "floating11:04
qschulz" but it's over the current header11:04
qschulzwhich is useful since it gives you the button to open the navigation pane :)11:05
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jaskij[m]I've long decided that CSS is black magic, the way it works11:06
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jaskij[m]I'd sooner dive deep into BitBake's internals than learn CSS :P11:07
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jaskij[m](and I'm a noob at Python too)11:07
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jaskij[m]Run into a strange thing, and am not sure if and how to point it out to upstream: apparently, they have a maintenance branch, from which they cherry-picked into a CI/scan branch, and only tagged the release from there. Feels goddamn wrong, but it would be poking my nose into how they use Git and have their CI set up, so pointing it out feels wrong too.11:09
jaskij[m]there's two different commits which are identical, one in maintenance branch, the other in that CI/scan branch, and it's the second one tagged as a release.11:10
jaskij[m]or rather, not cherry picked but squashed11:16
jaskij[m]which bugs me way less11:16
ThomasD13Damn it. Yocto is not supported on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS ?11:16
jaskij[m]but still - branch names seem wrong11:16
jaskij[m]which Yocto?11:16
jaskij[m]as in, which version of Yocto?11:17
ThomasD13Ill have a look, one moment..11:17
jaskij[m]Dunfell (3.1) officially doesn't, Hardknott (3.3) does11:17
jaskij[m]Gatsegarth (3.2) does as well11:18
jaskij[m]qschulz: for whatever reason https://docs.yoctoproject.org/3.3/singleindex.html doesn't have version number in page title11:19
qschulzjaskij[m]: I think we have an issue there, 3.3 is pointing to the dev branch11:22
jaskij[m]qschulz: and 3.2 is showing the warning about outdated docs11:23
jaskij[m]I'd expect that if I only specify the minor, leaving out the patch, it'd redirect me to the latest patch11:23
ThomasD13I have a "vendor yocto configuration". Honestly I don't know which yocto version they use. Which layer does help me, to find out?11:23
jaskij[m]just check the branch11:23
jaskij[m]of poky or meta-oe11:23
qschulzjaskij[m]: 3.2 is EOL, so not incorrect to show the header ;)11:24
jaskij[m]qschulz: but 3.2.4 doesn't show it :P11:24
jaskij[m]I'd assumed it's on purpose because of how vendors love to ship outdated Yocto versions11:24
ThomasD13Okay, so oe-core is checkout on hardknott11:25
ThomasD13Puhhh... im lucky so far :D11:25
jaskij[m]hardknott does list 20.04 support in the manual11:25
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jaskij[m]ThomasD13: you might be reading outdated manual, Google loves linking some truly ancient stuff, not to mention it seems to skip the new docs page entirely11:26
qschulzjaskij[m]: yeah ok, this needs some much deserved love11:27
qschulzwe need to open an issue in Bugzilla11:27
qschulzwell, a few :p11:27
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ThomasD13yes jaskij[m] I think that was the case :) thank you11:28
jaskij[m]qschulz: any way to tell Google to stop linking old pages? I'm still regularly linked to 2.4 and not infrequently to 1.6. I'm guessing no one is actually versed enough in Google Search Console to do it?11:28
qschulzjaskij[m]: I don't think so? We briefly complained about it months ago and I think the answer was "python folks has the same issue, so I don't see YP being able to deal with this successfully"11:30
jaskij[m]qschulz: After reading Wikipedia, GSC seems to to allow it, but someone would have to o actually register an account for the domain with Google and then know how to use their tools. And I'm not even sure the acc would be frew11:32
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qschulzndec_: can we say that 3.4 is obsolete the day 3.5 is out in the docs?11:58
ndec_everything is possible!11:59
ndec_i think we still have a BZ to improve this piece of code in the docs website ;-)12:00
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ndec_hmm. shouldn't 3.2 be obsolete already?12:01
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qschulzndec_: how do you test the change to the switchers.js?12:02
qschulzs/the change/changes/12:02
ndec_it's not straightforward, we need to reproduce the whole doc structure, i used the script we have in the ab to rebuild all branches.12:05
ndec_e.g. http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/yocto-autobuilder-helper/tree/scripts/run-docs-build (with some local changes as needed)12:06
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qschulzndec_: oof :)12:14
RPndec_: I think that BZ entry may be assigned to you!12:23
ndec_heh ;)12:25
ThomasD13Does this error sounds familiar to you? https://hastebin.com/hejuqokovu.sql12:29
ThomasD13ExpansionError during parsing12:30
qschulzThomasD13: the error message says it cannot find master branch12:32
qschulzyou go to the github repo and you see there's no master branch, but a main one12:32
ThomasD13ahhhhh.... a common error..12:32
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jaskij[m]qschulz: I might've been wrong. Our talk yesterday prompted me to re-check. Seems like the issue is not in SCFW or ATF, but rather a mismatch between U-Boot and kernel, or at least that's what I'm leaning towards currently. The vendor BSP for my SoM was built against what looks like pre-mainlaine Linux, or at least the device tree is completely different to what's in 5.4. And since U-Boot looks at that device tree, I'm getting a load of errors.13:10
jaskij[m]At least that's my current theory. I'll need to revisit this once I'm done with userspace - that's my priority right now, and it seems to be working fine with 4.14. Updating U-Boot is something I'm very much *not* looking forward too.13:10
qschulzjaskij[m]: device trees are different in U-Boot and kernel so not sure what would be the errors13:14
jaskij[m]they are?13:15
qschulzexcept if they do fixups of the kernel device tree from U-Boot13:15
qschulzjaskij[m]: they are different files, though they can be identical (they often aren't)13:15
RPbitbake-selftest failure: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/86/builds/2600/steps/11/logs/stdio  - what? :/13:15
jaskij[m]my memory of that must be wonky then13:15
jaskij[m]but yes, just before the message "Starting kernel..." I'm getting a bung of errors13:16
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qschulzjaskij[m]: I mean... technically you could probably use the same Device Tree but it's bound to fail at one point :)13:21
fbreHi! Anybody using the Linux rpmsg driver of the i.MX8 which communicates between ARM processor and M4 coprocessor?13:23
fbreI've seen data loss in the driver13:23
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jaskij[m]what could throw an error like this:13:34
jaskij[m]`ignoring clock-controller@56010000 power-domains of unexpected length 8`?13:34
jaskij[m]found it13:34
jaskij[m]it's in U-Boot13:34
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jaskij[m]qschulz: thanks, you've made me re-check it, and lookit what I found. Seems like there *is* a fixup in U-Boot, and that's what's been throwing the errors at me. While disabling practically the whole device tree: https://pastebin.com/wQKGfP2D13:41
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jaskij[m]the size of `power-domains` changed between vendor kernel and mainline 5.413:41
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jaskij[m]I'm half-tempted just to patch out that fixup13:42
qschulzworth a try :)13:45
jaskij[m]I wonder if I can damage the SoC by enabling an unpowered peripheral or something. Why the check/fixup is even there.13:50
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perdmannqschulz: ahh it makes sense now...14:07
JPEWRP: Ok I've read https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1457814:08
RPJPEW: cool. What did you make of it all?14:08
JPEWWell, I think we still need http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/meta/lib/oe/sstatesig.py?id=7538be0a50106f61b59b1d2cb830273d7370093114:10
JPEWIs m4-native allarch? I would expect it to differ on two different hosts14:12
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RPJPEW: With it effectively reverted on the autobuilder, the build seems ok so far (but still going)14:13
RPJPEW: m4-native is not allarch, no14:13
RPJPEW: I can't decide if we need it or not. I'm wondering if some other fix we made removed the need for it14:13
JPEWRP: possibly14:15
* JPEW tries to find any such fixes14:16
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RPJPEW: I think if this was going to break, it would have already done so since different gcc versions will give different outhashes for native recipes14:18
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JPEWRP: Ya maybe... did you do a full revert? I can't really figure out how it might have been "fixed"14:37
RPJPEW: I made it use a fixed tag for both arches which gave me options if it exploded badly14:38
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RP(which effectively reverts it)14:38
JPEWRP: Sounds good14:38
RPJPEW: Do you remember our discussions about the new method we added to the server where we "force" an equivalent match? I'm wondering if that was the real fix there14:39
RPJPEW: I would do a full revert if the tests work and we agree it is the right way forward14:40
JPEWRP: Ya, I do remember that14:40
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RPJPEW: NFS made bitbake unhappy?  I'd bet it did :)14:47
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RPJPEW: I did join the weekly call just in case people are around15:01
Xagenif i wanted the checkout of a layer to be at a specific commit-id, is there a way to set that?15:03
Xageni'm using toaster btw15:03
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tlwoernerRP: are people around?15:04
vmesontlwoerner: 6 on the call15:06
vmesontlwoerner: http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/meta/lib/oe/sstatesig.py?id=7538be0a50106f61b59b1d2cb830273d73700931 <-- patch under discussion15:08
tlwoernervmeson: thanks! i was following the irc and knew what the topic of discussion would be :-)15:09
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moto-timokanavin_: beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but it does look clean and modern :)15:38
moto-timokanavin ^^15:39
* moto-timo should figure out how to do screen captures in GNOME15:39
kanavinmoto-timo, 'compared to sato' was implied :)15:39
moto-timokanavin: I think phosh cleanly wins that comparison15:40
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moto-timokanavin: the good news is squeekboard was not required, as there is a built-in keyboard stub15:43
kanavinmoto-timo, nice :) as for screenshots, did you bring it up on physical HW?15:43
kanavinmaybe qemu next?15:43
moto-timokanavin: the bad news is it needed some X11 stuff15:43
moto-timokanavin: yes, I will be launching a qemu build next15:44
moto-timokanavin: yes, physical rpi4 HW15:44
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qschulzndec_: we have to be a bit more careful when tagging releases, 3.3 is "broken" as it's marked as "dev" instead of "3.3" because we forgot to update conf.py16:06
qschulzjaskij[m]: I implemented the 3.2 -> 3.2.4 redirect in the Yocto docs but I think it's a mistake16:09
qschulzto do so. Because 3.2 is actually a release too. Like 3.2 is basically a 3.2.016:09
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Wouter01008Howdy! Anyone experience with the npm.bbclass? I'm trying to build a package, but I need to copy the npm-shrinkwrap from the git repo of the npm package into the recipe and include it in SRC_URI to properly download the deps. Is there any way to use the npm-shrinkwrap from the git repo instead?16:53
Wouter01008If I don't copy the npm-shrinkwrap it'll error out: `npm ERR! Could not install from "{truncated}/git/node_modules/{vendor}/{dep}" as it does not contain a package.json file.`. The whole node_modules folder is non-existent.16:54
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Wouter01008Okay, I digged into the code and I don't think that's possible.17:46
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RPsmurray, dl9pf: we're about to start getting warnings on meta-agl-core from ptest-runner: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/120/builds/27017:57
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smurrayRP: I can take a look at it later today19:21
RPsmurray: I know you're travelling, sorry :/19:23
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smurrayRP: I’m a bit surprised, our patch is pretty small now. It should be easy to fix19:24
RPsmurray: I admit I haven't looked at what the patch is doing19:27
smurrayRP: it’s a much tweaked version of an old patch to add an option to emit LAVA style results. At this point it’s probably low impact enough to upstream it, I just keep forgetting it19:28
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moto-timosmurray: sounds familiar :)19:31
smurraymoto-timo: indeed ;)19:31
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Wouter0100Is there some way to use `${B}` in defining SRC_URI? It seems to cause a loop, but I'm not sure if there's any other way to do so. The use-case is to first let a fetcher (`git://`) download some files, and then use that file in another fetcher (`npmsw://`). In this case the order would be really important, but I don't think this would be a viable19:36
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vddoes if [ -n "${FOOBAR}" ] ; doo_rootfs[depends] += "somerecipe:task" ; fi work?20:43
vdor does it need to be done in python?20:44
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kergotha bitbake file isn't shell, you can't use shell constructs like that if statement20:45
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kergothanonymous python is your best bet there20:45
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kergothsee the bitbake user manual for the details on exactly what's allowed in our file format20:45
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vdkergoth I was thinking about a function. Is there anonymous shell function?20:46
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kergothdo_rootfs[depends] += isn't shell either20:46
kergothyou're trying to shoehorn bitbake into shell into bitbake, interleaving the two file formats. not going to happen20:46
vdok I see, so python anonymous is the only option, got it20:46
vdthank you, I was a bit confused on the various syntaxes ^^20:47
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kergothit's one file format, the bitbake one. when you define a "shell function" in bitbake you're just setting a bitbake variable and setting a flag to tell bitbake to execute it with a shell script.20:48
kergoththe bitbake user manual file format section is definitive20:48
kergoth(at least, what's there is)20:48
kergothfoo () { bar;  } is the same as foo="bar"; foo[func] = "1"; foo[shell] = "1"; :)20:48
vdkergoth: how would you do the equivalent of `install -m 600 ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/foo ${IMAGE_ROOTFS}/bar` in python, if that is possible?20:49
kergoththe whole point of the ability to write shell functions is to make that not necessary :) but python can call out to shell with bb.process.run()20:50
vdho nevermind, I'll simply add a shell ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND from an anonymous python function.20:50
kergothprobably easiest, yeah20:51
kergoththe bitbake file format is not shell *or* python, it's its own format, that happens to allow for shell or python to run in particular contexts.20:51
yateswhy does yocto attempt to download some tarball when i provide a simple git url: SRC_URI = "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git;protocol=git;"20:51
vd(the whole point was to have do_rootfs[depends] and ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND appended conditionally)20:51
yateshere's the whole recipe: http://paste.debian.net/1213631/20:52
kergothyates: mirroring. you have one or more mirrors enabled, and that's our how mirrors distribute git repositories today20:52
kergothas tarballs20:52
yateskergoth: thanks, but how am i enabling mirroring?20:52
kergothHow would I know how you have your build configured?20:52
kergothCheck your distro20:52
kergothpoky enables use of yocto mirrors, iirc20:53
vdIn shell, the best equivalent to python's `if d.getVar('FOO'):` would be `if [ -n "${FOO}" ]`, correct?20:54
yateskergoth: i appreciate your input but i have no idea what you are talking about, re "how would i know how you have your build configured".20:55
yatesperhaps i should ask, "Hypothetically, if i intended mirros to be enabled, how would i do it/"20:56
kergothYou're asking a question that's literally impossible to answer without context20:56
kergothMIRRORS or PREMIRRORS are set in the metadata, does that help?20:56
kergothit can be set anywhere20:56
kergoth*convention* dictates its often the distro20:56
yatesare you referring to something in the build/conf?20:56
kergothIf you don't know what a distro is, I don't know how to help you20:58
kergothSee the yocto project documentation20:58
kergothdistros aren't generally in build/conf, no20:58
RPyates: anything can set those variables, a class, a distro config, an include file or probably other things20:58
RPyates: see what MIRRORS and PREMIRRORS are set to with bitbake-getvar or bitbake -e20:58
RPOE enables mirrors by default, not just poky21:00
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kergothah, thanks for the clarification21:01
vdis it common for a bbclass to inherit core-image or is it preferred that the recipe does inherit core-image myclass21:02
RPvd: either is fine, depends what you're doing21:02
vdRP: I want to share the code that I have in a recipe which does embed a few files like overlay images and customization like SSH port, etc.21:04
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RPvd: put another way, does myclass depend on core-image or is it independent ?21:06
yatesRP: bitbake-getvar is not a command in my path21:06
RPyates: it is new for 3.421:06
vdit will be more flexible in case you want to create a new recipe compared to bbappend the base one or requiring it21:07
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RPvd: it it works separately, it gives others more possible options21:07
vdRP: myclass does customize IMAGE_INSTALL and IMAGE_FEATURES for example, but doesn't depend on it per-se21:07
RPvd: so putting it in the recipe is fine it if doesn't require it and have a hard dependency21:07
vdok thank you21:08
vdIf the recipe does 'inherit core-image myclass', can myclass check if core-image is inherited?21:09
RPvd: it can in anon python21:12
RPvd: you start to have to wonder if it should be requiring it at that point though21:13
vdRP: it's just that my system consist or basically creating recipes from two classes: "core-image" (for the images) and "bundle" for an update framework bundle recipes. Ideally I'd like to share my build configuration variables in both, i.e. "inherit myclass" from both core-image and bundle recipes.21:16
vdDoes that make sense?21:16
yatesso why is (eventually) this fetch failing when i have git cloned that url and can checkout that revision? http://paste.debian.net/1213633/21:16
yatesit's a damn liar!21:16
RPyates: is that revision in the master branch?21:18
RPyates: that is not what I asked. You're saying the revision is in the repository which I do not doubt. I asked "is that revision in the master branch"21:22
RPyates: to be clear, bitbake is saying the revision is not in the branch specified. I suspect that rather than lying, it is in fact telling you quite plainly something which is true21:23
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RPyates: bitbake looks forward your apology ;-)21:24
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RPvd: you can do that, I'm not sure its a great idea but you know what you're doing better than me21:26
vdRP: well I would trust you more than more about what seems good or not for bitbake recipes ;-)21:33
vdRP: you would write two classes, myimage and mybundle, instead of a single myclass guessing what kind of recipe is being written?21:36
RPvd: probably, or three, one with the common parts shared by the two21:36
RPbut I'm not writing them :)21:36
yatesbitbake: i apologize, i was wrong, and i just can't live without you.. BABY COME BACK!!!21:37
vdRP: I've seen a lot of these actually. I guess they're the way to go, but it can feel kind of messy to have all these foo-common, foo-common-base, foo-base, etc... classes sometimes :/21:37
RPvd: pros and cons. I do agree and I have tried to clean up and simplify where we can21:38
RPyates: exactly, so set the branch correctly :)21:40
yatesconvoluted torvalds and his demon-seed git...21:41
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meck[m]Hi, does anyone know if you can do something like "export FOO_class-native" from local.conf or auto.conf? I want to set a environment variable for any package that uses the host gcc, but it would be nice not to pollute the non native packages...21:52
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RPJPEW: with that patch reverted I have https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/73/builds/4053 and then https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/73/builds/4055 in an identical build later - i.e it didn't reuse much sstate :(21:57
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