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| mckoan | good morning | 06:54 |
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| barath | morning | 07:01 |
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| fbre | Hi! What is the name of the yocto package which includes the program tcpreplay in the yocto distro? | 07:19 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | fbre: do you have a build that already has it and you want to find out where it comes from? or are you asking for the recipe because you want it? | 07:22 |
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| fbre | JosefHolzmayrThe I want to add the magic word to IMAGE_INSTALL_append | 07:27 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | fbre: http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/23478/ | 07:28 |
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| fbre | JosefHolzmayrThe I'm not sure what keyword do read from that page | 07:30 |
| fbre | *to | 07:31 |
| fbre | IMAGE_INSTALL_append += " tcpreplay" ? | 07:31 |
| fbre | right? | 07:32 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | fbre: read: you need the meta-networking layer, and the recipe is called tcpreplay, which means you've got a 99% chance that the package is also called...(wait for it)... tcpreplay. (badum-tsh!) | 07:32 |
| fbre | 2 days ago I needed "util-linux" for the program "taskset" X) | 07:35 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | fbre: well, always check the layerindex first. and what you are referring to is that some upstream provides a source package named util-linux, which happens to provide several tools. so if you need something that comes from a package with several tools, then the name obviously differs. but think about it, it makes sense. or would you expect busybox to provide each command in a seperate package, for example? or systemd? | 07:37 |
| fbre | I don't have survey over every Linux tool. That's why a table program <--> package would be useful for looking it up | 07:39 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | fbre: and that again is why i asked about your objective. because if it were something you already have, then oe-pkgdata-util could do the lookup. if you have a file in an image and want to know where it comes from, then it can tell you. | 07:40 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | fbre: it doesn't work into the opposite direction though, because a recipe is not needed to list everything it pacakges. hence, one can de facto only search recipes that actually have been built already. | 07:41 |
| fbre | that's cool (y) thanx for your help | 07:41 |
| fbre | Now the error is "Nothing provides 'tcpreplay' | 07:43 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | i am pretty certain that the package is called tcpreplay. and that you have not read, but only skimmed what i explained. | 07:45 |
| fbre | meta-networking is in meta-openembedded here | 07:46 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | and is the layer also enabled in bblayers.conf? | 07:47 |
| fbre | oh, no, thanks. Now I've added it in bblayers.conf and that seems to help (y) | 07:49 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | QED. skimmed. | 07:49 |
| fbre | no, I did not read your words inprecisely. It's just hard for a newbie to read your hints and understand I have to add something to bblayers | 07:52 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | i see. i agree that things are complicated, and that i sometimes am a bit impatient. but seriously - i guess you are doing this for a living - if you are constantly struggling with very introductory stuff, then it might a good idea for your $BOSS to get you some proper training. | 07:55 |
| tnovotny | fbre: another useful tool (besides the already mentioned oe-pkgdata-util) is bitbake-layers (e.g. subcommands show-recipes and add-layer). | 07:57 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | tnovotny: and create-layer! one of the most underrated tools that we have! | 07:58 |
| fbre | tnovotny I already had 1 week training by R. Berger payed by the boss and it was great! It still is complicated! | 07:58 |
| fbre | (this should go out to Josef) | 07:59 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | agreed, thats a good start. | 08:00 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | anyways. lessons learned for today: always go for the layerindex if you need something :) | 08:00 |
| fbre | yes, now I've learned the layer name mentioned on the layerindex page says something ;) | 08:03 |
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| vladest | please help: live555 library not appeared in final image , nor sdk image. added live555 to IMAGE_INSTALL_append but no luck. its hardknott repo | 08:49 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | vladest: a) didi it successfully build? b) what would you expect to show up in theimage? | 08:51 |
| vladest | yes, it did. I'd expect headers and library | 08:53 |
| qschulz | vladest: usually headers and non-versioned libraries aren't needed at runtime | 08:54 |
| RP | JosefHolzmayrThe: where does quantum electrodynamics come in? :) | 08:54 |
| qschulz | so they are not added to the image, that is the expected, desired and default behavior | 08:55 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | RP: after coffee #3 and before beer #1 | 08:55 |
| vladest | yeah, but what about sdk? | 08:55 |
| qschulz | if you need the headers at runtime, it's probably because you want to compile something on the target..though you have a build system that is able to do such a thing, so just create a recipe for the thing you want to compile on your target | 08:55 |
| qschulz | sdk should have it, but I think it has a different include mechanism? | 08:56 |
| qschulz | aaaaah, the SDK is just a toolchain | 08:56 |
| qschulz | in abstract | 08:56 |
| vladest | my main issue: sdk doesnt have it. | 08:56 |
| qschulz | you should maybe have a look into the eSDK | 08:56 |
| vladest | esdk? what is this? | 08:57 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: hum no, the sdk that matches an image should actually bring the libs and headers. | 08:57 |
| qschulz | JosefHolzmayrThe: sdk or esdk? | 08:57 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: sdk | 08:57 |
| qschulz | vladest: extended SDK https://docs.yoctoproject.org/sdk-manual/index.html | 08:58 |
| qschulz | JosefHolzmayrThe: I'll let you handle this question, as I have never used nor intend to use an SDK in the near future :) | 08:58 |
| vladest | jfyi: im creating sdk using "-c populate_sdk" option of bitbake | 08:59 |
| RP | JosefHolzmayrThe: looking forward to that video :) | 08:59 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: hehe. TBH i don't have the time to reproduce it here at the moment. but *in general*, a sdk (as created by -c populate_sdk) for a given image should include the libraries. if that works as intended for that particluar library, no idea. | 09:00 |
| mckoan | JosefHolzmayrThe: totally agree | 09:00 |
| vladest | JosefHolzmayrThe: i'd expect the same, and, basically, its the same for all the libraries i'm using except live555 | 09:02 |
| vladest | qschulz: thanks. will take a look | 09:02 |
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| qschulz | vladest: assuming all the -c populate_sdk task do is to install the -dev packages, check where your headers are installed for the live555 | 09:05 |
| * RP thinks it may be time to run the release build | 09:05 | |
| qschulz | oe-pkgdata-util list-pkg-files live555-dev | 09:05 |
| * qschulz grabs popcorns, put on tiny party hat :) | 09:05 | |
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| vladest | hmm: | 09:09 |
| vladest | live555-dev: | 09:09 |
| vladest | /usr/include/AC3AudioFileServerMediaSubsession.hh | 09:09 |
| vladest | /usr/include/AC3AudioRTPSink.hh | 09:09 |
| vladest | but actually I cant see the files nowhere in poky folders | 09:09 |
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| vladest | when adding live555-dev to local.conf, I've got: | 09:15 |
| vladest | ERROR: Unable to install packages. | 09:15 |
| vladest | * Solver encountered 1 problem(s): | 09:15 |
| vladest | * Problem 1/1: | 09:15 |
| vladest | * - conflicting requests | 09:15 |
| vladest | * - nothing provides live555 = 20210406-r0 needed by live555-dev-20210406-r0.cortexa72 | 09:15 |
| vladest | * | 09:15 |
| vladest | * Solution 1: | 09:15 |
| vladest | * - do not ask to install a package providing live555-dev | 09:15 |
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| RP | vladest: that sounds like live555 may be an empty package | 09:17 |
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| vladest | RP: its part of meta-openembedded | 09:27 |
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| mckoan | vladest: please add in your local.conf IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " live555-mediaserver" | 09:28 |
| mckoan | vladest: and/or live555-openrtsp live555-playsip live555-examples | 09:34 |
| rburton | does sound like a broken recipe though, so a patch to fix the deps would be good | 09:42 |
| vladest | mckoan: same as for -dev but its warning now | 09:45 |
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| barath | so I see that icecc will not build with anything that has INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS set, and that includes for instance clang | 11:58 |
| barath | is there a workaround? | 11:58 |
| barath | is jenkins down? | 12:01 |
| barath | sry that was the wrong channel :D | 12:02 |
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| rburton | JPEW: with master-next i'm seeing this in the cooker log occasionally | 12:22 |
| rburton | JPEW: task: <Task pending name='Task-4' coro=<AsyncServer.handle_client() done, defined at /home/ross/Yocto/poky/bitbake/lib/bb/asyncrpc/serv.py:188> wait_for=<Future pending cb=[<TaskWakeupMethWrapper object at 0xffff8a5ab910>()]>> | 12:22 |
| rburton | Error talking to server: Connection closed | 12:22 |
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| JPEW | rburton: Hmm, can you get the server log by chance? | 13:47 |
| RP | JPEW: I merged those hashserv patches, thanks. Hope mine is ok! :) | 13:55 |
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| JPEW | RP: Ya, looks good | 14:09 |
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| RP | With threading in python, how careful do you need to be with writes to the same data structures from multiple threads? | 15:18 |
| RP | i.e. is http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=10b613866c039eaf32f3f1b66270863ea3b98747 an issue? | 15:18 |
| JPEW | RP: I would use a semaphore as you would in any other language instead of relying on the Global Interepreter Lock | 15:19 |
| RP | JPEW: right, so the above patch is probably needed... | 15:22 |
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| qschulz | RP: not sure how safe having two different with is though | 15:23 |
| qschulz | since you're modifying the same structure in both | 15:24 |
| qschulz | if the order in which .add and .remove should be run matters, it might be an issue? | 15:24 |
| RP | qschulz: that shouldn't happen in that code | 15:25 |
| RP | (tid should only ever get processed once) | 15:25 |
| qschulz | RP: otherwise, don't use the context manager and do a Lock.acquire() and add a finally which has if Lock.locked() Lock.release() ? | 15:26 |
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| JPEW | RP: If each tid only gets processed once, then its fine; the `if tid in missed` slightly implies that is not the case. | 15:28 |
| JPEW | RP: Is there a specific bug you are trying to fix? | 15:31 |
| RP | JPEW: there is an earlier loop over tid values outside the threaded code so it should be ok | 15:33 |
| RP | JPEW: I'm trying to explain some weirdness we see periodically. Sadly the bug doesn't reproduce on demand | 15:34 |
| JPEW | What's the weirdness? | 15:34 |
| RP | JPEW: ross is seeing builds from sstate where sometimes things aren't reused when they should be | 15:35 |
| RP | JPEW: it looks as if it doesn't think they're on the sstate mirror. Why, not sure | 15:36 |
| RP | JPEW: I'm also seeing sstate issues but I think mine are network issues | 15:36 |
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| RP | JPEW: there was also very weird build failures when testing patches to this code on the list | 15:37 |
| RP | JPEW: those were thought to be a thread issue | 15:37 |
| RP | I'm remembering that and wondering if ross' issue is connected | 15:37 |
| rburton | ok latest run has a slew of non-urllib errors | 15:37 |
| rburton | WARNING: checkstatus() urlopen failed: <urlopen error [Errno 16] Device or resource busy> | 15:38 |
| rburton | WARNING: checkstatus() urlopen failed: <urlopen error [Errno 24] Too many open files> | 15:38 |
| RP | rburton: this is your 256 thread thing isn't it? :) | 15:38 |
| rburton | hell yeah | 15:38 |
| rburton | its otherwise idle, so no idea why sometimes it works and sometimes fails | 15:39 |
| RP | rburton: so you're running the system out of file descriptors? :) | 15:39 |
| rburton | damnit urllib | 15:39 |
| RP | we do raise those limits on the AB | 15:39 |
| rburton | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/e5impS4L/ | 15:39 |
| rburton | fs.file-nr is 65536 | 15:40 |
| RP | rburton: what is ulimit -n ? | 15:41 |
| rburton | hm 1024 | 15:42 |
| RP | rburton: on the AB I think it is 131072 | 15:42 |
| RP | halstead: can we get this info added to https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/AutoBuilder_Cluster_Setup please? | 15:43 |
| RP | rburton: in theory if we lower this we should see more errors | 15:43 |
| rburton | lets see! | 15:43 |
| RP | rburton: the generic except: catcher in there is a guess pretty bad at hiding errors here :/ | 15:43 |
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| rburton | yeah | 15:44 |
| RP | seemed like a good idea at the time :/ | 15:44 |
| rburton | cant drop it to 512 as bitake won't start | 15:44 |
| RP | rburton: would fit with minimal working and not sato | 15:47 |
| rburton | yeah | 15:47 |
| RP | rburton: for fun I tried BB_NUMBER_THREAD = "512" and just doing the sstate queries. It's hung :/. | 15:47 |
| rburton | would be nice if we could just use requests in bitbake's fetcher | 15:48 |
| RP | rburton: ah, not hung, just going very slowly and showing unsuccessful fetch messages now | 15:49 |
| RP | rburton: so I think I just replicated | 15:49 |
| RP | hung batch of unsuccessful fetch tests for things which were working | 15:50 |
| RP | huge | 15:50 |
| rburton | i think the basic problem is that checkstatus's api is "success unless exception" which makes raising errors tricky | 15:50 |
| RP | rburton: we could test which exception though - 404 vs anything else | 15:51 |
| Suhler | Hey all, I'm trying to build Zeek (natively compiled, not yocto) on a Dunfell build. I've pulled in all the requirements via local.conf (bizon, flex, libpcap, etc....) but I'm getting a .configure issue where it " Could NOT find PCAP (missing: PCAP_INCLUDE_DIR)". I can confirm the libpcap.so is under /usr/lib/. Before I go down the 200 year rabbit | 15:52 |
| Suhler | hole of libs, is there anything else I can attempt to pull in for libpcap (like headers, for example)? | 15:52 |
| halstead | RP: I can add our ulimit setup to the wiki. | 16:03 |
| RP | halstead: please, it is useful for people to be able to see that | 16:05 |
| rburton | RP: oh it explicitly handles other errors like connection refused because soureforge hates humans | 16:05 |
| rburton | dropped ulimit to 800: Sstate summary: Wanted 1193 Local 0 Network 695 Missed 498 Current 0 (58% match, 0% complete) | 16:07 |
| rburton | and lots of WARNING: checkstatus() urlopen failed: <urlopen error [Errno 16] Device or resource busy> | 16:07 |
| rburton | i wonder if something is holding files open longer than needed | 16:08 |
| RP | rburton: I wondered that. My test did suddenly start working again suggesting things did get freed eventually | 16:08 |
| rburton | going to randomly run a lsof and see if it says anything meaningful | 16:11 |
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| rburton | huh vscode eats a load of handles | 16:12 |
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| rburton | sorry what vscode's server has 3444 open files | 16:14 |
| moto-timo | kanavin: just got phosh running on qemux86-64, including epiphany, puzzles, pcmanfm, l3afpad. Looks a bit wonky (screen resolution) and touch/mouse is not quite the experience you would expect. But all the apps launch ok. | 16:18 |
| moto-timo | today I discovered PACKAGECONFIG:pn-qemu-system-native:append = " gtk+" was the source of my qemu-system-native "pthread check failed" woes. It needed to be PACKAGECONFIG:append:pn-qemu-system-native = " gtk+". doh | 16:21 |
| moto-timo | rburton: maybe vscode is trying to be unix... everything is a file | 16:24 |
| * moto-timo ducks | 16:24 | |
| rburton | vast numbers of pipes, guessing it uses those to talk to itself | 16:24 |
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| kanavin | moto-timo, nice - screenshots? | 16:59 |
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| override | its basically just this server if you need more context.. https://github.com/Opentrons/opentrons/pull/8375/filesif a recipe has a -native appeneded to its name, all that it pulls in would stay on the build machone and not get copied overt the target machine/imagE? | 17:23 |
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| override | whatever a recipe with a -native in its names pulls stays on the build machine? nothing gets written to the target image / rootfs? | 17:25 |
| override | whatever recipe with a -native in its name pulls stays on the build machine? nothing gets written to the target image / rootfs?* :rbutron | 17:29 |
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