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| yates | in my build folder, crti.o is present in the following sysroots-components subfolders: csky/glibc and csky/libgcc/lib/csky-poky-linux/10.30/ | 03:40 |
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| yates | according to the logs, tthere is a "NOTE: Installed into sysroot: [...'glibc'...]" as well as a "NOTE: Installed into sysroot: [...'libgcc'...]" | 03:41 |
| yates | so which version of crti.o is installed into the locak package sysroot? | 03:42 |
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| mcfrisk | are there any options in yocto to create file system overlays or similar images/tar balls which extend the original rootfs image in various ways? | 06:27 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | mcfrisk: i have witnessed various people approaching the topic, but am not aware of any public result. | 06:28 |
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| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, JosefHolzmayrThe: Maybe something like this? https://github.com/cmhe/meta-readonly-rootfs-overlay | 06:41 |
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| RobertBerger | or something like this: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-core/volatile-binds/volatile-binds.bb | 06:46 |
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| RobertBerger | or https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/classes/overlayfs.bbclass | 06:49 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 06:52 |
| mcfrisk | RobertBerger: cool, I'll check that out. we have an implementation which hacks a new image type but while at it breaks things like buildhistory. I'd like an upstream yocto compatible solution instead. | 06:53 |
| RobertBerger | There is even some doc: http://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#overlayfs-bbclass | 06:54 |
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| mcfrisk | what I currently look for is a build time concept for taking one image and generating an overlay/delta/extending image on top. flashing and runtime I already have sorted out | 06:57 |
| mcfrisk | looks like this is not the use case for overlayfs.bbclass or meta-readonly-rootfs-overlay | 06:59 |
| mcfrisk | those enable a read-write overlay mount point on top of a read-only rootfs | 07:00 |
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| ad__ | hi, need help. On gatesghart, i get a quite strange error from image.bbclass (i am working from bionic container) | 07:34 |
| ad__ | Exception: subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['du', '-ks', '/home/path/...' ] | 07:34 |
| ad__ | strange thing, running separately du -ks on same directory, i don't get eny error | 07:35 |
| ad__ | sprry, forgot part of the error | 07:36 |
| ad__ | Exception: subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['du', '-ks', '/reducing/path']' died with <Signals.SIGABRT: 6>. | 07:36 |
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| qschulz | michaelo: ndec: just stumbled upon in-line targets in Sphinx: https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/guides/cross-referencing-with-sphinx.html#in-line-targets | 07:58 |
| qschulz | that'd be great to be able to point to paragraphs within sections or items in a list 👍 | 07:59 |
| ndec | qschulz: that is indeed interesting.. | 08:03 |
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| qschulz | I shall go through my patches which "fixed" the non-existing refs or http links and fix that, a lot to be checked unfortunately | 08:10 |
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| mrkiko | Hello all!! | 08:16 |
| qschulz | mrkiko: o/ | 08:16 |
| mrkiko | I am a blind person, so maybe videos aren't as efficient at least from a procedural perspective. I am following https://docs.yoctoproject.org/brief-yoctoprojectqs/index.html and completed the qemu build. So far, all is ok. Was just wondering (to understand things), what might I do to compile pocky with a different library than glibc? Define a new layer and override that decision? | 08:17 |
| mrkiko | qschulz: :D | 08:18 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | mrkiko: swapping out the glibc is not that much of a deal, it is best done via a custom DISTRO configuration. | 08:19 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | mrkiko: usually the next steps for a beginner would be 1) creating a custom layer 2) creating a custom image in that layer 3) packaging up something in a new recipe | 08:20 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | mrkiko: (as i'm the guy who's usually doing all the videos, i can fully understand this being complicated for you. let me know if i can help) | 08:20 |
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| mrkiko | JosefHolzmayrThe: thanks a lot!! | 08:22 |
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| qschulz | mrkiko: I think https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-TCLIBC should be the variable you need to change. I assume the yocto Project expects you to have this set in a configuration file. | 08:24 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | mrkiko: no problem! i guess that you are used to reading and grasping complex topics in that fashion way more than most of our beginners, so probably continueing here: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#understanding-and-creating-layers might be helpful for you. | 08:24 |
| Guest50 | Hello Yocto wizards, i'm currently building an image for zynq platform (ARM arch) and in order to launch some uni-tests (on the host side) I would like to build an SDK with all tools and libs build for the host arch (not cross-compiled) ? is it possible ? | 08:27 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | Guest50: pick your poison. https://docs.yoctoproject.org/sdk-manual/index.html | 08:28 |
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| qschulz | mmmm wondering if that is not what ptest is for? | 08:29 |
| qschulz | JosefHolzmayrThe: they want to build the image they will use on a target for the host to be able to test their software on the host and not the target | 08:30 |
| qschulz | I think | 08:30 |
| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, have a look at otree maybe? | 08:30 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: then the OP needs to elaborate. | 08:31 |
| qschulz | Guest50: look into ptest, it might be something interesting, I just heard of it so can't really say if it's what you're after or not. Otherwise, you can always swap your zynq machine for a qemux86 or similar | 08:31 |
| qschulz | making your target of the same architecture of your PC | 08:31 |
| qschulz | (provided x86 is the architecture of the PC you're building on) | 08:31 |
| qschulz | qemux84-64 I think even | 08:31 |
| Guest50 | qschulz thx for the tips i will take a look, and yes I don't want to cross-compile my app, I just want to run tests. I will make a try, thx guys ! | 08:32 |
| mcfrisk | RobertBerger: you mean ostree? | 08:33 |
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| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, https://ostreedev.github.io/ostree/ | 08:39 |
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| mcfrisk | and https://github.com/sidebranch/meta-ostree | 08:41 |
| mcfrisk | but I already have everything working at runtime with containers and stuff, just need to sort out a more upstream yocto friendly build system bbclass for this | 08:42 |
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| michaelo | qschulz: hey, good finding (in-line targets in Sphinx)! | 08:56 |
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| ziga_ | Good day! One question about the Yocto. I want to compile Linux for STM32H743 MCU with an embedded Cortex-M7. This family of MCU is directly supported in mainline linux: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/stm32h743.dtsi?h=v5.14.13 So if I manage to compile the embedded Linux at least some MCU peripherals will be working out of the box - I am hoping for UART which Linux needs for console that | 09:54 |
| ziga_ | I can use to connect to the MCU. But, how can I use Yocto to compile for Cortex-M7 device? Can someone point me to the proper documentation so I can start? TY! | 09:54 |
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| kroon | With a linux-yocto kernel, is there a way to append kernel config options directly in the recipe ? Or do I need to put them in a config fragment and add it to the SRC_URI ? | 09:57 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | ziga_: you'd usually start out by defining a custom machine, which includes the relevant tunes. if no such tune exists, you have to create it. | 10:11 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | ziga_: seems that armv7m at least has some support already: https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/conf/machine/include/arm | 10:12 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | ziga_: and as ST also are YP members, there is some chance that they already provide a starting point. have you checked that? | 10:12 |
| rburton | ziga_: multiconfig is a good way to built for both the A and M cores at the same time. there are M tunes already but you'll likely need to make a new machine unless ST have produces the machine definitions already. | 10:27 |
| rburton | oh its not a A/M dual core | 10:29 |
| rburton | that makes it easier, just make a machine | 10:30 |
| rburton | kroon: you need to write a config fragment | 10:31 |
| ziga_ | JosefHolzmayrThe_: Thank you for the info. So if I set MACHINE to "cortexm7", should it compile? | 10:31 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | ziga_: nope. you need to create a machine. | 10:32 |
| ziga_ | JosefHolzmayrThe_: Is there any documentation on how to define my own machine? | 10:32 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | ziga_: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#adding-a-new-machine | 10:32 |
| ziga_ | JosefHolzmayrThe_: Ty! | 10:32 |
| kroon | rburton, ah ok, thanks | 10:33 |
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| erbo | ziga_: I might be giving out unwanted advice here, if so just ignore me. Have you made sure that using linux on a STM32H7 is the best fit for your usecase? While running a small linux kernel on it might be perfectly doable I can't help but to think that maybe your usecase could be better solved using something like zephyr, which is more suitable for that kind of processor. | 11:04 |
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| kroon | meta-rauc's conf/layer.conf does 'INHERIT += "sanity-meta-rauc"', whose purpose is to warn if the layer is active but "rauc" is not in DISTRO_FEATURES. But doesn't this mean that that check is done for every recipe ? | 11:20 |
| qschulz | kroon: yes | 11:20 |
| rburton | you can do mojo to make that happen *once* but most people don't | 11:21 |
| qschulz | I'm interested, can you tell us more? | 11:21 |
| kroon | qschulz, rburton, hpmf ok. is that really a good idea here.. | 11:21 |
| rburton | there's a build started event you can catch | 11:22 |
| rburton | easier to just do it every recipe, just in case someone is "smart" and changes distro features in a recipe :) | 11:22 |
| rburton | in the context of building a whole system, a few compares is nothing | 11:22 |
| kroon | I thought python parsing/evaluation was one of the bitbake parse bottlenecks | 11:23 |
| rburton | parse, yeah | 11:23 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | rburton: there are smart people using YP? | 11:23 |
| rburton | but thats less than a minute in a tens-or-hundreds of minutes build | 11:23 |
| kroon | that depends on the build | 11:24 |
| rburton | JosefHolzmayrThe: a couple | 11:24 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | OMG | 11:24 |
| rburton | kroon: easily benchmarked: comment out that line | 11:24 |
| kroon | rburton, yeah | 11:25 |
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| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, sorry for my slow reply - I am delivering a Yocto training ;) | 11:44 |
| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, I guess you are after a possibility to deliver apps and containers via incremental updates | 11:44 |
| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, I am looking into this as well and believe ostree could be the "proper" solution for this | 11:45 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | RobertBerger: OIDA! | 11:46 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | RobertBerger: i have rumour that there are smart people around!?! | 11:46 |
| RobertBerger | JosefHolzmayrThe, OIDA! I guess that's just a rumor ;) | 11:47 |
| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/recipe/106704/ | 11:47 |
| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, the real fun starts with the backend and how to ship your ostree stuff | 11:48 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | RobertBerger: 🍺 | 11:48 |
| RobertBerger | mcfrisk, https://github.com/advancedtelematic/meta-updater seems quite complex to me | 11:48 |
| RobertBerger | JosefHolzmayrThe, 🍺 | 11:50 |
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| jonmason | openssl v3.0.0 is blowing up most of the machines in meta-arm | 12:56 |
| jonmason | thats always a nice thing to wake up to | 12:56 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | jonmason: https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/7kvif3/the_suckcut_from_waynes_world/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 | 12:57 |
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| jonmason | JosefHolzmayrThe: good to see your are bringing your jesting A game today | 12:59 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | jonmason: of course! | 13:00 |
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| yates | each package within the build/tmp/sysroots-components folder has a "sysroot-providers" folder consisting of (as far as I've seen) file names. e.g. glibc has the file names glibc, virtual_libc, and virtual_libiconv. what is the meaning of the file names in this folder? | 13:38 |
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| RP | yates: they match what is in PROVIDES | 13:48 |
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| manuel1985 | JosefHolzmayrThe: May I suggest a topic for Yocto Jestering? testimage | 13:52 |
| manuel1985 | And system testing | 13:52 |
| manuel1985 | I know you already covered ptest and it was great | 13:52 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | manuel1985: session 19, ptests not enough to get you started? ;-) | 13:53 |
| manuel1985 | well, it got me started, yes, and now I'm eager for more ;) | 13:53 |
| manuel1985 | I heard there is some functionality around to flash the image onto a seperate partition of the target, reboot into that, run some tests, and boot into the old partition. Don't know how or if that's related to testimage. | 13:54 |
| RP | manuel1985: that isn't anything testimage does | 13:54 |
| manuel1985 | But I would rather like to boot my image to test via netboot rather than flashing it constantly. Seems nicer to me. | 13:55 |
| manuel1985 | RP: Oh. Thanks for the info. So, that's why I need some Jesting. | 13:55 |
| RP | manuel1985: the idea is nice and the framework probably could be extended to do it but few people seem interested in helping develop the codebase :( | 13:55 |
| manuel1985 | Also I need to trigger some external hardware for my tests, for example a remote-controllable usb-hub which connects-disconnects some usb-connected thing to my device-under-test. | 13:57 |
| manuel1985 | RP: Currently digesting the wiki article to find out what it does and how it relates to ptest https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Image_tests | 13:58 |
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| RP | manuel1985: also see the testing manual | 14:00 |
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| RP | http://docs.yoctoproject.org/test-manual/index.html | 14:00 |
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| vd | from latest masters I see a lot of "the basehash value changed" errors on bootloader and image recipes | 14:20 |
| vd | suggesting to do bitbake <recipe> -cdo_configure -Snone/printdiff | 14:23 |
| vd | what does bitbake means by "The metadata is not deterministic and this needs to be fixed."? | 14:24 |
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| RP | vd: it means each time it parses it, it gets different task hashes | 14:26 |
| vd | RP: ho I see. I've set the bootloader "version" to a tag containing ${DATETIME}, that must be it. | 14:30 |
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| rburton | yes | 14:31 |
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| rburton | you can mask that out so the datetime changing doesn't cause a rebuild | 14:31 |
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| vd | rburton: is it ok to have a (development) tag containing DATETIME in the first place or is it a bad idea? If it's ok, how can I mask DATETIME out? | 14:38 |
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| rburton | vd: eg classes/image-artifact-names.bbclass:IMAGE_VERSION_SUFFIX[vardepsexclude] += "DATETIME SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH" | 14:38 |
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| vd | rburton: thanks. Does it matter where that is set from? e.g. the bbclass using or the distro conf setting it? | 14:39 |
| rburton | the place using it should set that | 14:40 |
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| vd | rburton: I was using my own variable until I found BUILDNAME, I've switched to the latter. I'm surprised BUILDNAME doesn't have [vardepsexclude] += "DATETIME" already? | 14:58 |
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| vd | I think I understand what you meant. you must set vardepsexclude on *all* variables using it, not just the one set with DATETIME in it | 15:18 |
| qschulz | manuel1985: why do I feel like you want LAVA (from Linaro) to control and test your devices :) ? | 15:25 |
| qschulz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJvusc6jz4w and https://elinux.org/images/0/09/Building_a_Bards_Farm.pdf might be of interest | 15:26 |
| qschulz | get Jenkins to send builds to LAVA and write tests for LAVA and you're all set probably | 15:26 |
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| manuel1985 | qschulz: mind = blown. Will watch the video while communiting home now. Thanks :) I feel the fog around yocto testing slowly lifting. | 15:30 |
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| vd | I have a restricted shell to abstract access to shared TTYs, power distribution unit and file server. Simple and handy. | 15:31 |
| qschulz | note that the talk is 5years old now, so LAVA probably changed quite a lot since then but the general setup probably is still the same | 15:31 |
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| manuel1985 | noted | 15:34 |
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| vd | all the lab software I found often are too complex or require lots of CI/CD setup and machines. I prefer one software and a bunch of USB TTYs, Ethernet dongles, etc. plugged in it and a simple configuration file to describe the mapping to each boards | 15:34 |
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| vd | rburton: it seems like all variables using BUILDNAME (set to DATETIME) are contaminated and need to be vardepsexcluded, I quite don't get it yet | 15:39 |
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| qschulz | vd: this does not scale well but yes, for individuals or small companies or small number of devices, it might make sense to go for some homemade solution | 15:42 |
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| vd | qschulz: indeed. With support for a distributed configuration, it would scale much more (a single lab config file was intentional at first). It's like the buildroot of homelab software ^^ https://kernera.github.io/krsh/ | 15:47 |
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| alex88 | Hi everyone, does anyone use node 12 in their images? Is there a way to create the snapshot to avoid spending 5-6 seconds just to start node? | 16:00 |
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| vd | in my distro foo.conf I've set BUILDNAME ?= "${DISTRO}" and do_configure -Snone/-Sprintdiff says: Variable BUILDNAME value changed from 'foo' to '${DISTRO}' | 16:15 |
| vd | rburton: in case that makes sense to you ^ | 16:18 |
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| alex88 | node-red-node-sqlite-0.6.0-r0 do_package_qa: QA Issue: /usr/lib/node_modules/node-red-node-sqlite/node_modules/sqlite3/tools/docker/architecture/linux-arm/Dockerfile contained in package node-red-node-sqlite requires /bin/echo, but no providers found in RDEPENDS_node-red-node-sqlite? | 16:25 |
| alex88 | is there a way I can skip this QA check? I don't need to use the dockerfile | 16:25 |
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| alex88 | oh nvm INSANE_SKIP_${PN} = "file-rdeps" | 16:26 |
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| zeddii | alex88. you'd be better off removing the file as part of the build/compile/install tasks, or just not packaging it | 16:39 |
| zeddii | then the QA check won't notice it and fire. | 16:39 |
| moto-timo | Since you are unlikely to be building a Docker container on target | 16:40 |
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| alex88 | yeah I definitely won't, thank you zeddii moto-timo | 16:43 |
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| jaskij[m] | did task overrides (eg `do_install_append_machine`) move to the new syntax too? | 17:17 |
| vd | yes | 17:18 |
| jaskij[m] | thanks | 17:18 |
| vd | do_install:append:foo | 17:18 |
| jaskij[m] | ``` | 17:22 |
| jaskij[m] | find . \( -name '*\.bb' -o -name '*\.bbappend' \) -exec sed -i 's/_append/:append/g' {} \; | 17:22 |
| jaskij[m] | ``` | 17:22 |
| jaskij[m] | seems safe to run | 17:22 |
| jaskij[m] | then | 17:22 |
| jaskij[m] | (similarly for prepend) | 17:22 |
| RP | jaskij[m]: there is a script in oe-core which was used for the conversion | 17:25 |
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| jaskij[m] | oh, neat | 17:26 |
| vd | jaskij[m] there's also _prepend, _remove, FILES_${PN}, etc. | 17:28 |
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| jaskij[m] | ``` | 17:29 |
| jaskij[m] | ag -s --ignore '*.dts' --ignore '*.dtsi' --ignore defconfig "[A-Z]_[a-z]" | 17:29 |
| jaskij[m] | ``` | 17:29 |
| jaskij[m] | returns nothing for me | 17:29 |
| jaskij[m] | vd: About that, I wasn't sure on `FILES_${PN}` - that's an override too, right? So I need to replace it here too. | 17:29 |
| vd | yes, ${PN} is part of OVERRIDES | 17:33 |
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| RP | to be clear, the package name (${PN}, ${PN}-dev etc) is part of OVERRIDES during packaging | 17:38 |
| vd | otherwise pn-${PN} is used | 17:40 |
| vd | RP: one confusing variable is PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/bootloader. That's a plain variable and not an override, right? | 17:41 |
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| jaskij[m] | So, RDEPENDS_${PN} and FILES_${PN} need a change too, gotcha. | 17:43 |
| smurray | vd: correct, PREFERRED_PROVIDER_* are variables | 17:50 |
| vd | any idea why in my distro foo.conf I've set BUILDNAME ?= "${DISTRO}" and bitbake -cdo_configure -S{none,printdiff} says: Variable BUILDNAME value changed from 'foo' to '${DISTRO}' | 17:55 |
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| vd | RP: doesn't this look like a bug? | 18:27 |
| RP | vd: it is probably to do with when/where the value is being set. If it is complaining like that there is likely a real issue | 18:32 |
| vd | RP: BUILDNAME ?= "${DISTRO}" in the distro conf is the correct way to set a custom build name, isn't it? | 18:34 |
| RP | vd: I don't remember all the details like this. I just tried to explain the error you saw since you did specifically get my attention | 18:36 |
| vd | and I thank you for that. I was just wondering if there was anything wrong in the syntax which could explain this fairly strange hash error | 18:40 |
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| JosefHolzmayrThe | i thought that the standard sdk brings kernel and image along. did that change? | 19:12 |
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| vmeson | Anyone interested in helping improve the YP go-lang support could work on: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14386 -- patchelf breaks go -native executables | 19:45 |
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| angolini | i just assigned the bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14605 to me | 20:21 |
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| smurray | JPEW: I have a memory of your mentioning that you use BBMASK in multiconfig, almost looks like it's not working for me here, so I wanted to confirm? | 21:09 |
| JPEW | We do; you need a pretty new bitbake for it to work though | 21:10 |
| JPEW | We backported the patch a few versions, so I don't remember exactly what version | 21:10 |
| smurray | JPEW: ah, okay, might not be in dunfell, then, I'm guessing | 21:13 |
| JPEW | No, I don't think it is | 21:13 |
| smurray | that would explain what I'm seeing ;) | 21:13 |
| smurray | tis unfortunate, kills one hack to avoid a handful of bbappends that I had in mind | 21:14 |
| JPEW | The backport is not too bad FWIW | 21:14 |
| JPEW | (we already have to have a local mirror of bitbake, so backporting stuff isn't a big deal for us; I realize that's not the case for everyone) | 21:15 |
| smurray | I'll take a look | 21:15 |
| smurray | this is AGL, so it'd effectively need to go into upstream dunfell, which I suspect is not likely | 21:16 |
| moto-timo | https://patchwork.openembedded.org/series/24450/ | 21:16 |
| smurray | but I might just make a note to revisit this idea when we do upgrade to kirkstone | 21:16 |
| smurray | moto-timo: thanks | 21:17 |
| moto-timo | It’s in 1.48 but not 1.46 (dunfell) | 21:19 |
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