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| JosefHolzmayrThe | qschulz: michelo: what do you think, would it make sense to have this in the manual? Maybe the common tasks section? | 05:40 |
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| coldspark29[m] | Morning, is there something like a U-Boot Matrix channel? I have some questions about FIT images, because I can't seem to boot mine | 06:02 |
| JosefHolzmayrThe | coldspark29: U-Boot is on libera afaik, no idea if they have the bridge enabled | 06:03 |
| coldspark29[m] | Thanks. I never used IRC before. Seems like so ancient. | 06:05 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], on which board do you want to use fit images? | 06:11 |
| coldspark29[m] | rber|res: On an i.MX8. I used this guide https://www.thegoodpenguin.co.uk/blog/u-boot-fit-image-overview/ | 06:12 |
| coldspark29[m] | Did everything exactly as in there, but I am getting an error when booting | 06:12 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], can you post the error on pastebin or something similar? | 06:13 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], did you use yocto/fitimage class or an SDK and everything manually? | 06:14 |
| coldspark29[m] | I already posted in the NXP forums https://community.nxp.com/t5/i-MX-Processors/quot-Synchronous-abort-handler-quot-when-trying-to-boot-a-FIT/m-p/1359868#M181941 | 06:14 |
| coldspark29[m] | But the community there doesn't seem to be very active. | 06:15 |
| coldspark29[m] | rber|res: This is actually for Android. My job is to exchange our current Android base system with a Yocto base system for flexibility reasons, but before I need to learn a bit about the old solution and also secure it. | 06:17 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], Hmmm - I would assume that something is overwritten due to choice of you addresses | 06:17 |
| coldspark29[m] | The current Makefile creates a uImage with... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/bd6c70c2499c47225ac2f94e6214d805eda9d187) | 06:18 |
| coldspark29[m] | and then I try to create a FIT image, which I boot. | 06:18 |
| coldspark29[m] | rber|res: I was thinking the same thing, but wouldn't know where to get the right addresses from. | 06:18 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], hehe - the most trusted process in the world of engineering | 06:19 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], trial and error ;) | 06:19 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], you could try with this https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/classes/kernel-fitimage.bbclass | 06:19 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], there you might be lucky and it just works - I think you still need to pass some addresses | 06:20 |
| rber|res | @coldspark29[m], https://community.nxp.com/t5/i-MX-Processors/fitImage-loadaddress-and-entrypoint-for-imx8mn-evk/m-p/1228751#M169228 | 06:23 |
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| rber|res | coldspark29[m], you are not | 06:24 |
| rber|res | alone: https://community.toradex.com/t/apalis-imx8-flashing-u-boot/11530 | 06:24 |
| coldspark29[m] | Why is Element opening Wine when I click on the links? | 06:25 |
| coldspark29[m] | rber|res: Ah the last link is helpful. I will try that out thanks | 06:28 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], might be very Toradex specific | 06:30 |
| coldspark29[m] | Toradex? | 06:31 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], I would bundle kernel,fdt,ramdisk in one fit image and load/run this, than you have less issues with addresses | 06:31 |
| rber|res | Toradex is a board manufacturer | 06:31 |
| coldspark29[m] | rber|res: That is exactly what I am trying. FIT images seem like state of the art. We will have less problems, once we configured it right. Plus you can make one image with different configurations. | 06:32 |
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| rber|res | coldspark29[m], well you need a use case. The way you do it - fit image and than extracting kernel/fdt/ramdisk is not very useful. You could load each item over tftp as well. | 06:38 |
| coldspark29[m] | rber|res: What do you mean? This is for a USB update currently, but it should also be booted from eMMC, of course. | 06:39 |
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| rber|res | coldspark29[m], https://pastebin.com/kD5xdhth | 06:45 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], I will be slow with my replies now, since I'll deliver a training session | 06:45 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 06:51 |
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| mckoan | coldspark29[m]: is there any particular reason why you need to use a FIT image? | 06:57 |
| coldspark29[m] | I tried calculating the load address of the FIT image as shown in the NXP post, but the same problem occurs | 06:58 |
| coldspark29[m] | <rber|res> "coldspark29, https://pastebin...." <- I am not using imxtract so far. Should I? | 06:58 |
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| coldspark29[m] | mckoan: Well, I just successfully signed the kernel for authentication with NXP's HAB. Now I should extend this to the ramdisk and I figured the easiest way is to create a FIT image, which I then sign the same way. So first of all I am trying to load the FIT image without secure boot, but even that fails. | 06:59 |
| coldspark29[m] | I also want to get into it, because it seems to be the most modern approach. | 07:01 |
| coldspark29[m] | And good morning :) | 07:02 |
| banana_smoothie | Good morning. | 07:16 |
| banana_smoothie | I had a question about the third-party prebuilt python package on saturday. Can anyone help me to solve my issue? :) | 07:18 |
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| coldspark29[m] | So I just made it. I took the uImage to create the FIT instead of using the standard Image. I also used arm instead of arm4. It boots now :) | 07:52 |
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| Guest25 | Hi, I am trying to create a sdcard image (rawcopy of u-boot.bin, boot-partition and rootfs-partition) via .wks.in-file. The resulting .wic-file is not as expected. The alignment in the rootfs-partition is at 1024, even though I used the "--align 4096" option and all files have strange modification dates (March of 2018). Any idea what could have | 09:17 |
| Guest25 | gone wrong? | 09:17 |
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| rber|res | coldspark29[m], I guess you have in uImage the baked in address which works | 09:25 |
| rber|res | coldspark29[m], but ... uImage and fitImage is not exactly what it was supposed to be ;) | 09:26 |
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| barath | is there a general rule for when to use DISTRO_INHERIT vs just INHERIT? the mega manual just says that one is "global" while the other "at the distribution level". the mega manual says to user INHERIT_DISTRO_append for enabling icecc for instance. | 11:26 |
| barath | I guess one might be distribution specific, but then I dont know what might happen when doing multiconfig builds for instance? I guess it's set for every distro that's built? but then, why not use the "global" INHERIT? | 11:27 |
| rber|res | bradfa, I was not aware of INHERIT_DISTRO, but the doc says: INHERIT_DISTRO[doc] = "Lists classes that will be inherited at the distribution level. It is unlikely that you want to edit this variable." | 11:31 |
| rber|res | sorry for brarth | 11:31 |
| rber|res | barath | 11:31 |
| barath | rber|res: 👍️ but that doesn't tell me what "at the distribution level" means compared to "globally", in practice 🤔 | 11:32 |
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| rber|res | barath, but it says "Don't touch" | 11:33 |
| barath | yep, but the docs for icecc also say "touch!" :D | 11:33 |
| barath | https://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/mega-manual/mega-manual.html#ref-classes-icecc | 11:34 |
| barath | > INHERIT_DISTRO_append = " icecc" | 11:34 |
| barath | hence my confusion | 11:34 |
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| * RP has made the mistake of trying to build a non-release libtool in OE. It needs git submodules :( | 11:45 | |
| rburton | i should rebase slibtool :) | 11:45 |
| rburton | and hey, gitsm: works well | 11:45 |
| RP | rburton: there is talk of a libtool release so it might be nice to sort our patches out | 11:50 |
| rburton | good luck with that | 11:51 |
| rber|res | barath I use: INHERIT += "icecc" | 11:58 |
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| barath | rber|res: yeah I guess either works. just have to make sure that all nodes use the same I assume | 12:10 |
| tnovotny | barath: we use site.conf for that purpose (it is designed for it) | 12:14 |
| barath | yeah thanks 🙏 | 12:15 |
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| banana_smoothie[ | I'm trying to use a prebuilt shiboken2 package on a basic dunfell release and when I import shiboken2 it returns the following error:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/ef9e805c643b96bf5862fdeac1d895b8a94c094a) | 12:22 |
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| barath | banana_smoothie: is that on the target? looks like you need to find the yocto recipe which provides that python module, or install pip on the target and fetch it at runtime | 12:25 |
| banana_smoothie[ | barath: It's on the target. I used an arch and python3.8 compatible package. If I build the python3 on target, I can import this module without any error. Only yocto based python3 throws errors. | 12:27 |
| banana_smoothie[ | * used an armv7 arch and | 12:28 |
| banana_smoothie[ | Unfortunatelly there is no recipe for this module, so I had to create one which extract the archive and install it to the target. I patched the python3-manifest.json too, but the issue is not solved, and I have no idea what should I do to use this package with a yocto based python3. | 12:32 |
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| rburton | banana_smoothie[: typically, the solution is to find the source and build it | 12:39 |
| rburton | prebuilt binaries are always a pain, as they might like link and version assumptions | 12:40 |
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| ad__ | from bbappebdm, is it possible to COMPATIBLE_MACHINE += "another" ? | 12:40 |
| rburton | yes | 12:41 |
| ad__ | becourse i tried and seems to fail. Only = "another" works | 12:41 |
| rburton | well, COMPATIBLE_MACHINE is a regex, so you need to format it right | 12:42 |
| rburton | its not a space-separated list of names, but a single regex | 12:42 |
| rburton | a fairly common idiom is to use overrides, COMPATIBLE_MACHINE:mymachine = "mymachine' | 12:43 |
| ad__ | rburton, thanks ! | 12:44 |
| banana_smoothie[ | <rburton> "prebuilt binaries are always a..." <- I manually built a python3 on a yocto based image and the prebuilt package is worked on that. It only does not work with yocto based python3 🙄 | 12:47 |
| rburton | you should try and figure out what the difference is. python3 binaries are a bit of a beast, and cross makes it really tricky. | 12:48 |
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| coldspark29[m] | Is there a way to pass arguments to .its files? | 13:06 |
| coldspark29[m] | I would like to tell dtc (or mkimage in this case) where to find the images for constructing the FIT | 13:07 |
| coldspark29[m] | * the FIT., * Atm the .its file has to be in the same directory as the images, which makes my Makefile kind of messy. | 13:08 |
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| Guest49 | Hi Guys, can I use some "if not cond" override mechanism? Normally I would use "FOO_append_cond" if I want to append when condition is true. But I would be interested in something like "FOO_append_!cond" (append only when condition isn't true). Does something like this exist? | 14:02 |
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| JaMa | Guest49: use can use BAR = "something"; BAR:cond = ""; FOO:append = "BAR" | 14:05 |
| JaMa | ${BAR} | 14:07 |
| fray | alternatively, always append it and add a conditional _remove.. but JaMa's method is pretty common (I've certainly used it) and I prefer it ovr the remove in most cases. | 14:08 |
| Guest49 | thx JaMa | 14:11 |
| JaMa | yes, remove is impossible to undo, so avoid using it unless really needed | 14:12 |
| JaMa | anyone seeing incremental builds with meson all failing with: | 14:20 |
| JaMa | | Traceback (most recent call last): | 14:20 |
| JaMa | | File "/OE/build/luneos-kirkstone/webos-ports/tmp-glibc/work/x86_64-linux/libepoxy-native/1.5.9-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin/meson", line 33, in <module> | 14:20 |
| JaMa | | sys.exit(load_entry_point('meson==0.59.2', 'console_scripts', 'meson')()) | 14:20 |
| JaMa | | File "/OE/build/luneos-kirkstone/webos-ports/tmp-glibc/work/x86_64-linux/libepoxy-native/1.5.9-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin/meson", line 25, in importlib_load_entry_point | 14:20 |
| JaMa | | return next(matches).load() | 14:20 |
| JaMa | | StopIteration | 14:20 |
| JaMa | | ERROR: meson failed | 14:20 |
| JaMa | ? | 14:20 |
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| rburton | would that be the upgrade/egg thing that was mentioned last week on the list? | 14:23 |
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| JaMa | rburton: just noticed v2 of that patch and it might be the same, pity it doesn't show the error in commit message | 14:28 |
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| kergoth | fell behind on swat triage over the weekend since my son got a stomach bug and shared it with me (ugh), lot of laying around miserable. going to try to catch up today.. | 15:22 |
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| chep | Hi | 15:33 |
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| chep | I'm using opencv in my project and it works fine when I build an image. But when I want the SDK, almost all libopencv_*.so libraries are only in usr/lib/.debug directory | 15:34 |
| chep | is there something to configure that behaviour? | 15:35 |
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| rburton | chep: try adding opencv-dev explicitly to the sdk | 15:37 |
| chep | what is the variable to do that? | 15:37 |
| rburton | append TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK | 15:37 |
| chep | i'm trying, thx | 15:39 |
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| jaskij[m] | Moving to Hardknott, `VIRTUAL_RUNTIME`, same as `PREFERRED_PROVIDER`, are regular variables, not overrides, right? | 16:18 |
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| smurray | jaskij[m]: I suspect you mean honister, and yes | 16:26 |
| jaskij[m] | smurray: nope, Hardknott, only just now upgrading from Dunfell. Thanks. | 16:28 |
| smurray | jaskij[m]: I mentioned honister as it requires the syntax change, but hardknott does not (though it'll work there with the backported compatibility) | 16:29 |
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| jaskij[m] | did I misread it that badly? oof | 16:30 |
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| Guest2197 | Hello, i hope this is right place to ask :) I need some advice regarding debug build of yocto (3.1.8). We have several common meta layers meta-java etc... and our own meta layer with several apps/bb. I would like to enable debug build only for our stuff. When I try to set variable DEBUG_BUILD = "1" anywhere, it influences the whole solution - | 19:28 |
| Guest2197 | kernel etc... Is there some way to enable debug build only for single meta layer? or what would be correct approach to do this? Thanks. | 19:28 |
| vd | rburton: when compiling qtwebengine, does bitbake use a single core or multiple cores? (I think gcc is single thread?) I'm trying to compare the AMD Ryzen 7 5700G vs ryzen 9 5950X for OE builds | 19:38 |
| RP | vd: gcc is single threaded but make is run with PARALLEL_MAKE | 19:40 |
| vd | RP: so basically 2x $number_of_cores objects are compiled at the same time I suppose | 19:44 |
| jaskij[m] | except linking, which is a single core bottleneck | 19:45 |
| jaskij[m] | and if by chance LTO is enabled, that will take a long time | 19:45 |
| RP | vd: in theory | 19:46 |
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| RP | jonmason, rburton: can I upgrade u-boot now? :) | 19:52 |
| * RP deliberately didn't do that on the weekend | 19:52 | |
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| vd | jaskij[m] true for linking. So for the same amount of RAM (let's say 64Go for QtWebEngine) the 5700G 8-core @ 3.8Ghz should provide good performance compared to the 5950X 16-core @ 3.4 Ghz in theory | 19:55 |
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| jaskij[m] | vd: if that 5950X isn't boosting to around 4GHz during builds, I'd RMA that PC | 19:58 |
| jaskij[m] | Or at least 3.8-3.8 | 20:00 |
| jaskij[m] | *3.8-3.9 | 20:00 |
| RP | Guest2124: currently there are no "layer" specific overrides you can use so you'd have to do it in some anonymous python I suspect | 20:03 |
| jaskij[m] | vd I'm not going to suggest XMP here (since it's *technically* OC), but hopefully you at least went with 3200 JEDEC memory? It's hard to get AFAIK, but Ryzens are *extremely* memory sensitive. I've seen benches where performance scaled linearly with RAM clock (up to a limit, but it's higher, around 3600-3800). | 20:08 |
| jaskij[m] | (don't want to spam here with advice on build machines, feel free to dm me) | 20:08 |
| Guest2124 | and some "correct" .bb or .bbappend way to do this? :) | 20:09 |
| Guest2124 | I noticed someone else had same problem today https://stackoverflow.com/questions/69701939/building-yocto-and-specifying-a-layer-to-be-a-debug-build-everything-else-relea , and I guess its quite valid use-case to debug only your development stuff in some future release if its not possible now :) | 20:17 |
| jaskij[m] | Any advice on where to start for a relatively easy kiosk mode GUI? I'm reluctant to use Qt with their licensing changes and the direction they've shown. `meta-gnome`? | 20:18 |
| rburton | RP probably. Give Jon notice and we’ll quickly add the version being removed if we’ve not managed to remove the version pinning yet. Now I’m off for a few days! | 20:22 |
| elfenix|cloud | @jaskij[m] if you can deal with a very soft feature set, you might check out one of the gaming oriented toolkits like DearImGui - great for running simple displays | 20:23 |
| RP | rburton: have fun | 20:24 |
| rburton | jaskij[m]: Pick a toolkit you know. Gtk has bindings for most languages, or just make a web app | 20:24 |
| elfenix|cloud | if you're not dealing with commercial licensing of Qt, there's always the option of LGPL variants | 20:25 |
| jaskij[m] | Might've asked it wrongly: I'm thinking from Yocto end, for now, what to set up. Guess if I go with Gnome in kiosk mode, it's entirely up to me which graphical toolkit goes on top of that? | 20:26 |
| jaskij[m] | elfenix|cloud: LTS is afaik commercial-only | 20:26 |
| jaskij[m] | or did they backtrack on that one? | 20:26 |
| RP | zeddii: I'm wondering if we should get rid of the destsuffix git fetcher parameter in favour of the subdir one used by every other fetcher backend | 20:26 |
| elfenix|cloud | jaskij[m]: is there a compelling reason to use LTS versus the normal open source release? | 20:27 |
| vd | jaskij[m] I'm writing a distro for kiosk ^^ I'm currently using QtWebEngine for a web front-end though. | 20:27 |
| jaskij[m] | vd: Web is a no-go for us, unfortunately. We don't have the skills in the team and can't outsource because stupid grant rules. | 20:28 |
| vd | jaskij[m] but given all web frameworks out there, a locally hosted web interface could be really simpler to write compared to some UI specific toolkits | 20:29 |
| jaskij[m] | vd: with no one with web frontend experience? | 20:32 |
| vd | This is a skill easier to get rather than UI specific toolkits IMO | 20:35 |
| zeddii | RP: seems reasonable to me. I'm a heavy user of it, but it's an easy update. | 20:35 |
| RP | zeddii: I posted a patch on the bitbake list to add support for it. It just seems like a glaring horrible usability issue in the API currently | 20:35 |
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| RP | khem: having looked at libtool patches, I started looking at the gdb ones. I'm very surprised upstream haven't done something about some of them :/ | 20:40 |
| zeddii | RP: the patch reads ok to me. but it is adding / fixing subdir, right ? I didn't see the removal of destsuffix | 20:40 |
| RP | zeddii: right, this one just adds it. Removal (or warning) is another level of work | 20:40 |
| * zeddii nods. I was was going to suggest a warning, but then noticed it wasn't being removed .. yet | 20:41 | |
| RP | zeddii: I'm left wondering if it is a good idea or not (or do I just send patch changing the existing users?) | 20:41 |
| jaskij[m] | <vd> "This is a skill easier to get..." <- Fair. Considering the skills on the team (only desktop experience is C#), I'll probably spend a few days trying to package an AvaloniaUI demo and go on from there. Alternatives are web or Qt. | 20:41 |
| zeddii | meta-virt is probably the heaviest user. I can do a conversion without much trouble. | 20:42 |
| RP | zeddii: I was asking you as I know you're a heavy user :) | 20:42 |
| zeddii | if I'm aware enough of when it is merging, I can do the conversion. I tend to see the patches, and then not track when it actually lands in master :D | 20:43 |
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| RP | zeddii: ok, I'll let you know :D | 20:46 |
| vd | jaskij[m] "Blazor: Build client web apps with C#" do you know this M$ thing? | 20:47 |
| jaskij[m] | looks neat, thanks | 20:48 |
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| yates | do_install installs built components for each recipe into the recipe's image folder. what task copies/installs those files into the global sysroots-components folder? | 21:22 |
| RP | yates: populate_sysroot | 21:23 |
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| yates | well duh. | 21:35 |
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| zeddii | anyone else seeing some meson based recipes blow up in master ? I updated earlier, and now glib-2.0 and xorgproto-native are failing | 22:56 |
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| fray | there was a patch on the list about meson and empty python eggs? directories | 23:03 |
| moto-timo | http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/commit/?h=abelloni/master-next&id=925004e613cf1eb62d76fcc00915c89bc711535a | 23:05 |
| moto-timo | zeddii: what symptoms are you seeing? | 23:05 |
| RP | zeddii: probably the python egg meson issue | 23:09 |
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| zeddii | this is what makes the console: https://pastebin.com/t01239GB | 23:28 |
| zeddii | I'm rebuilding a few things now. | 23:29 |
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| zeddii | with enough cleanalls on the offending -native packages, it seems to be chugging along now. | 23:41 |
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