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| moto-timo | JPEW: happiness is a green zuul build | 00:46 |
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| moto-timo | JPEW: I forget where I got with usbguard… I was intending to drop that before I generated a PR. No harm, but non functional? | 00:47 |
| JPEW | Not sure... I suppose you're getting all the github notifications. Sorry about that | 00:49 |
| moto-timo | JPEW: nah, I was just looking at the PR intentionally | 00:49 |
| JPEW | moto-timo: Cool | 00:50 |
| JPEW | If you check the buildset in zuul (https://zuul.wattissoftware.com/t/wattissoftware-zuul/buildsets) you can download the images from the "deploy" item in the "artifact" tab to flash to a device | 00:52 |
| moto_timo[m] | Ooohhhh | 00:53 |
| JPEW | Those one only stick around for 24 hours though, since I don't have unlimited disk space | 00:53 |
| JPEW | (they are passed to the labgrid tests when gating) | 00:53 |
| moto_timo[m] | Still a cool feature | 00:53 |
| JPEW | Eventually I'll make the daily builds publish when they are done | 00:53 |
| JPEW | And maybe start a package feed or something... need a prserv first | 00:54 |
| moto_timo[m] | That’s been my plan too | 00:55 |
| moto-timo | Lol. As I randomly switch from irccloud to matrix… depending on which app notification won | 00:56 |
| moto-timo | When did it become the 19th? 🤦 | 00:57 |
| moto-timo | 🏎✈️🚀🛸 | 00:58 |
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| Tokamak | quite confused on bitbake variable expansion. I found a recipe that defines `local VAR=foo'. Is this similar to `export VAR=foo`, expect the context is local to the recipe? | 02:22 |
| moto-timo | Tokamak: that’s not Yocto specific, it’s bash https://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/localvar.html | 02:28 |
| Tokamak | right, but where i'm going insane is yocto's shell syntax isn't actually bash, but inspired by? | 02:29 |
| Tokamak | reading through this: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-metadata.html#variable-expansion | 02:29 |
| Tokamak | `VAR=foo` would be stored not in the shell environment, but in a bitbake var db, if i'm not going completely insane? | 02:30 |
| Tokamak | i was only caught off guard by this by realizing that ${VAR} is not the same as $VAR | 02:32 |
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| moto-timo | That’s also not unique to Yocto. | 02:34 |
| Tokamak | this is a more relevant link: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-metadata.html#exporting-variables-to-the-environment | 02:35 |
| moto-timo | What you are looking at is a shell task. It’s not the same as bitbake variables. | 02:35 |
| Tokamak | this was non-obvious to me until about 1 hour ago | 02:35 |
| moto-timo | So in this case, that variable is only in the scope of that shell function or shell task. | 02:36 |
| Tokamak | so where i'm really darn confused is.. bitbake shell tasks are not actually executed by bash? | 02:36 |
| Tokamak | the syntax of local makes sense (coming from a bash background) but where i'm really struggling is a somewhat formal definition of the shell task environment. | 02:38 |
| Tokamak | ${FOO} expands from yocto var db | 02:39 |
| Tokamak | $FOO expands from environment | 02:39 |
| Tokamak | FOO="stuff" sets in yocto var db?export FOO="stuff" exports to shell? | 02:39 |
| Tokamak | local FOO="suff" creates a local shell variable (to processing context of recipe)? | 02:39 |
| Tokamak | (sorry, copy paste in my irc client really failed here) | 02:40 |
| moto-timo | local would only be in the scope of the shell task or shell function | 02:40 |
| Tokamak | I elaborated the above examples i've seen thus far, are these remotely correct? | 02:42 |
| moto-timo | ${} is immediate expansion | 02:42 |
| moto-timo | export makes it available outside the specific task | 02:43 |
| moto-timo | Try not to make it a black box. It’s all shell and python underneath. | 02:44 |
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| Tokamak | how do i look to make it less of a black box? e.g. I tried to do $((var1 + var2)), which resulted in an error | 02:46 |
| moto-timo | I can't see your code, so I can only go on what you've asked | 02:47 |
| moto-timo | what was the error? etc. | 02:47 |
| Tokamak | i just worked around it by piping through bc. but i'll revert here in a bit for a test | 02:48 |
| moto-timo | what are you trying to accomplish by adding the variables? | 02:48 |
| moto-timo | most things in the bitbake context are strings, and most commonly the lists are space delimited (so variables which are a list are space delimited) | 02:49 |
| moto-timo | so you could do: | 02:49 |
| Tokamak | ultimately i messaged trying to understand how this all works as the links earlier really don't capture the mechanics of variable expansion | 02:49 |
| moto-timo | FOO = "bar" | 02:49 |
| moto-timo | FOO += "baz" | 02:49 |
| moto-timo | echo ${FOO} | 02:50 |
| moto-timo | barbaz | 02:50 |
| moto-timo | or using override syntax | 02:50 |
| moto-timo | FOO = "bar" | 02:50 |
| moto-timo | FOO:append = "baz" | 02:50 |
| Tokamak | oh, i wanted to do the bash arithmetic addition. $((var1 + var2)) where | 02:50 |
| moto-timo | same result (although normally you are appending to a space delimited variable so you want FOO:append = " baz" | 02:51 |
| Tokamak | i'm calculating image byte offsets for dm-verity | 02:51 |
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| Tokamak | yea the special syntax for variable appends / overrides makes sense. i'm just struggling inside the task's shell context | 02:51 |
| moto-timo | we frequently move to python for more complicated tasks, shell has it's limitations and the syntax gets ugly very very fast | 02:52 |
| moto-timo | but without looking at exactly what you've tried, I can't really say much more | 02:53 |
| Tokamak | trying to give you an example here in a second | 02:53 |
| moto-timo | (and I should be shutting down and idling my brain a bit) | 02:53 |
| Tokamak | well that fine if you want to shutdown - i appreciate the help you've given | 02:54 |
| moto-timo | if you have something, give it a shot | 02:54 |
| moto-timo | no promises | 02:54 |
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| Tokamak | man, i'm used to the ease of gentoo's wgetpaste. do you happen to know of a similar tool to upload a file? | 02:58 |
| moto-timo | you can use pastebin (or use irccloud which allows both pasting snippets and uploading files) | 02:59 |
| moto-timo | or a GitHub gist | 02:59 |
| moto-timo | or put it in a git repo somewhere and paste the link | 03:00 |
| Tokamak | manual copy-paste is really awkward in my environment, unfortunately | 03:00 |
| moto-timo | so is reading your mind ;? | 03:00 |
| moto-timo | :) | 03:00 |
| moto-timo | j/k | 03:00 |
| Tokamak | haha, fair. | 03:01 |
| Tokamak | (struggling over here) | 03:01 |
| moto-timo | poor attempt at Friday night humor | 03:01 |
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| moto-timo | you might need to do $(( var1 = var1 + var2)) | 03:06 |
| moto-timo | http://faculty.salina.k-state.edu/tim/unix_sg/bash/math.html#bash-arithmetic | 03:07 |
| moto-timo | I don't remember trying to do that in a shell task, so YMMV | 03:09 |
| Tokamak | https://dpaste.org/FpnS | 03:09 |
| Tokamak | look at lines 60 and 61. 61 is what gets syntax errors by bitbake's shell parser | 03:10 |
| Tokamak | i mimicked the style of the original recipe. but haven't tested all changes yet | 03:11 |
| moto-timo | this might be relevant, or not: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64641596/how-to-calculate-file-size-to-pad-in-bitbake | 03:12 |
| moto-timo | ah, I'm not sure you can pipe within a shell task | 03:12 |
| moto-timo | anyway, my eyelids are telling me time to move away from screens | 03:13 |
| moto-timo | good luck! | 03:13 |
| Tokamak | this is what i mean about being very confused about bitbake's shell being not bash | 03:13 |
| Tokamak | and thanks. about to try to verify what i have now, with the ugly work arounds | 03:13 |
| moto-timo | I was trying to search the bitbake code for where the shell tasks are called, but my tired brain didn't find it | 03:14 |
| Tokamak | thanks for trying! | 03:14 |
| moto-timo | when the EU/UK folks are on-line you might get more help | 03:14 |
| Tokamak | i certainly hope i'm not up that late :P | 03:14 |
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| RP | Tokamak: Firstly, bitbake uses sh syntax, not bash, we don't support bashisms. Secondly, bitbake performs variable expansion on the shell tasks before running them. This means ${XXX} will be expanded if XXX is set in the datastore | 10:52 |
| RP | Tokamak: finally, we do have to parse the shell to get some dependency information. Our parser doesn't understand some shell expressions so you will see errors if you use syntax our parser doesn't understand | 10:53 |
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| khem | RP sent couple of patches to get ptest images going on pi4. Trying to up the CI loop a bit here with more serious testing | 18:15 |
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| Guest66 | Hi, does anybody know which package/config is creating /usr/lib/opkg/alternatives/ ? | 18:24 |
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| vmeson | Try: $ oe-pkgdata-util find-path "/usr/lib/opkg/alternatives*" -- Guest66 | 18:27 |
| Guest66 | Ma Problem is that the path is available within morty but Not in dunfell… | 18:28 |
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| Guest66 | So it is returning „unable to find any package producing path…“ | 18:32 |
| vmeson | Guest66: odd, I don't think we would have changed anything related to alternatives | 18:34 |
| * vmeson checks email logs... | 18:34 | |
| Guest66 | Opkg was updated between morty and dunfell. But could yet Not find why the path is not there. | 18:36 |
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| vmeson | Guest66: here as an email [OE-core] [PATCH v4] opkg-utils: Change alternatives lib path from /usr/lib/opkg to /var/lib/opkg -- 2017-10-30, 10:12 p.m. | 18:39 |
| vmeson | but I don't think that was merged. | 18:39 |
| Guest66 | Either I dont have it under var | 18:41 |
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| Tokamak | Thanks for the context RP. | 18:56 |
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