| RP | moto-timo: issues like that are a pain. I've been having brakes issues :( | 00:01 |
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| moto-timo | RP: indeed... didn't help that the repair shop was closed which I didn't know until after the tow | 00:02 |
| moto-timo | RP: meanwhile attempting to get python packaging into state that can be sent to ML :/ | 00:02 |
| RP | moto-timo: I had a hot binding brake caliper. After the garage serviced it, I had a smoking hot brake caliper, they added grease to generate smoke :) | 00:03 |
| moto-timo | RP: "helpful" | 00:04 |
| RP | moto-timo: I thought so. Ended up fixing it myself :/ | 00:04 |
| RP | moto-timo: are the python changes near ready? | 00:06 |
| moto-timo | RP: close... but setuptools-scm is being wonky | 00:06 |
| moto-timo | RP: I am just about ready to finish the commit (for now) and push and send a email | 00:07 |
| RP | moto-timo: ok, cool | 00:08 |
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| moto-timo | RP: sent such as it is... I wish I hadn't lost yesterday | 01:29 |
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| moto-timo | RP: at least 20 tasks failed when building anything that inherited setuptools3, so more work to be done | 02:47 |
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| kergoth | zyga[m]: presumably someone could write type stubs for it and maintain them separately ala typeshed, yeah? | 03:35 |
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| moto-timo | RP: more fixes on top of the series pushed to the branch. The rest will have to wait for sleep. | 05:01 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:55 |
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| AKN | Hi Everyone | 08:28 |
| AKN | How to load brcmfmac driver & firmware in yocto | 08:28 |
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| zyga[m] | kergoth: good morning, I don't know, I only ever added type information directly | 08:32 |
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| jclsn[m] | Morning, my bitbake suddenly hangs at 0% when parsing recipes. I think this happened after I force-quit a bitbake session by closing the terminal. Is there maybe a lockfilepresent or something? | 08:38 |
| jclsn[m] | * Morning, my bitbake suddenly hangs at 0% when parsing recipes. I think this happened after I force-quit a bitbake session by closing the terminal. Is there maybe a lockfile present or something? | 08:38 |
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| qschulz | jclsn[m]: yes, lsof build/bitbake.lock IIRC? | 08:41 |
| jclsn[m] | Just deleted the bitbake cache | 08:41 |
| jclsn[m] | Worked | 08:41 |
| qschulz | then kill the processes listed there and you can then remove bitbake.lock manually and rebuild | 08:41 |
| jclsn[m] | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61798430/bitbake-e-g-yocto-hangs-in-step-parsing-recipes | 08:41 |
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| jmlemetayer[m] | Hi folks, I noticed that the access to the server http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/ was very slow this morning. Is this normal? | 08:56 |
| jmlemetayer[m] | More than 1 min from 2 places (my work and my ovh server). | 08:57 |
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| Saur[m] | RP: Now that you have changed OE-Core to only uses SPDX-licenses, should we consider dropping SPDXLICENSEMAP as well, or is that too soon? Since this is a simple one-to-one conversion and there now is a script to do the job, it seems reasonable to ask layer maintainers to do likewise (and it should be a lot simpler than the variable renames). Otherwise we will have to fight a never ending battle to prevent non-SPDX-license names to creep back in. | 11:48 |
| rburton | agreed | 12:00 |
| rburton | slash and burn! | 12:00 |
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| kanavin | Saur[m], it's easier just to send a patch ;) | 12:36 |
| kanavin | no need to ask RP's permission for everything on your mind ;) | 12:36 |
| Saur[m] | kanavin: Well, our network is currently down at work, so right now all I can to is chat... ;) | 12:39 |
| kanavin | Saur[m], if you can chat your network is not down ;) | 12:40 |
| Saur[m] | I'm at home... ;) | 12:40 |
| kanavin | you don't need a corporate network to make oe-core patches :) | 12:41 |
| kanavin | in fact, I would see it as a blessing and would want it to stay down for the rest of the week or something | 12:41 |
| Saur[m] | But I don't have any OE environments or build machines at home. | 12:41 |
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| RP | Saur[m]: I think it will probably have to stay for the LTS but in master in the next cycle we should be able to remove it | 13:13 |
| RP | Saur[m]: I'm worried about how many layers will convert given the timescales. There is also the issue no warning is given to encourage anyone to migrate | 13:14 |
| Saur[m] | Hmm, ok. I would think it would be easier to convert the license names than, e.g., rename variables. As all the needed licenses are in Honister there is an upgrade path already. Anyway, I will prepare the patch and you can consider it and then either take it, or put it in the pile for post-kirkstone changes (AKA ask me to resend the patch once kirkstone is out). | 13:20 |
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| RP | Saur[m]: the issue is that people expect a certain amount of time and to see warnings about changes :/ | 13:32 |
| RP | If we don't do that, it creates a different kind of usability issue :/ | 13:33 |
| Saur[m] | RP: Fair enough. | 13:42 |
| RP | Saur[m]: I've wanted to do this for ages, I've talked about it regularly in the calls. Nobody did it, I found time myself as I really wanted to see it happen for core | 13:43 |
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| RP | Saur[m]: I think we're just too late to go too much further though :( | 13:43 |
| Saur[m] | I understand. I'll prepare it, and postpone it for post-kirkstone. | 13:46 |
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| RP | Saur[m]: we can see what people think, I just worry about late changes | 14:02 |
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| moto-timo | RP: I think most of the failures are from ‘meson’… wheels seem to only be installing into ${PYTHON_SITEPACKAGES_DIR}/bin but that isn’t in PATH | 14:56 |
| RP | moto-timo: I doubt we know to look there in general code :/ | 14:57 |
| moto-timo | RP: plus the errors I already mentioned about [shebang-size], which I don’t understand | 14:57 |
| RP | moto-timo: maybe we just postprocess the install step with symlinks from bindir for our tools? | 14:57 |
| moto-timo | RP: that or symlinks is what I was thinking? | 14:58 |
| moto-timo | RP: I don’t think I have a swatbot account so I can’t read the link | 14:59 |
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| RP | moto-timo: you can just look at https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/85/builds/1713 | 15:01 |
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| moto-timo | RP: but I was able to see things under “Failed Builds” | 15:01 |
| RP | moto-timo: right, I was thinking some of the links there should work in swatbot but wasn't sure which | 15:01 |
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| moto-timo | RP: do you have any ideas about [shebang-size]? That seems just wrong… | 15:03 |
| RP | moto-timo: I haven't looked at it at all, sorry | 15:04 |
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| RP | Saur[m]: I think I have a lead on your logging issue. I think the difference in behaviour is the event.logfile parameter printed by knotty.py. When the function calls are wrapped, that is missing | 15:10 |
| manuel1985 | If several recipes RPROVIDE the same virtual package, what happens if I don't set a PREFERRED_RPROVIDER? | 15:12 |
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| rburton | PROVIDE, you mean | 15:19 |
| rburton | ? | 15:20 |
| RP | manuel1985: if you're in the runtime space, you shouldn't be using virtuals so as rburton says, do you mean PROVIDE or RPROVIDE ? | 15:20 |
| manuel1985 | rburton, RP: I actually mean RPROVIDE. Just reviewing a collegues PR. What's bad about using RPROVIDES? | 15:23 |
| smurray | manuel1985: from my experience using RPROVIDES for e.g. conf file packages, it boils down to dnf picking one from the feed semi-randomly if you are not explicit | 15:24 |
| manuel1985 | We'd use it to select either the development or the production config for another package on the image. | 15:24 |
| manuel1985 | smurray: Thanks. | 15:24 |
| RP | manuel1985: it is as smurray says, a really bad idea | 15:24 |
| manuel1985 | but if I set a PREFERRED_PRPROVIDER I'm okay I guess? | 15:26 |
| moto-timo | RP: stoopid oversight... didn't pass --prefix to pip install | 15:26 |
| manuel1985 | smurray: Or are you saying PREFERRED_RPROVIDER doesn't work? | 15:27 |
| RP | manuel1985: I've posted about this before on the mailing lists. It works but it can't influence the package managers | 15:29 |
| qschulz | manuel1985: are those config packages installed in the image "manualy" or part of the RDEPENDS of some other package? | 15:29 |
| smurray | manuel1985: I've still not figured out what the mentions of it in bitbake are actually for. It definitely does not work the way you might think it would | 15:29 |
| RP | so they can do something random | 15:29 |
| manuel1985 | qschulz: They are installed due to the other packages RDEPENDing on them | 15:29 |
| RP | My advice is stay away from virtual RPROVIDES. If you want more details try and find the mailing list posts I've made before | 15:30 |
| manuel1985 | RP: Okay, will go look for it. Thx. | 15:30 |
| smurray | RP: I think the thing that threw me off when I first poked around was seeing it used in lib/bb/providers.py, and it not being hugely obvious to me how that logic intersects (or not) with the package manager | 15:31 |
| RP | smurray: I never really wanted it at all but there was some use case which forced it a while back :/ | 15:32 |
| smurray | manuel1985: another approach to consider might be alternatives, if you can wrangle priorities for the different versions so update-alternatives does what you want | 15:34 |
| RP | Saur[m]: I have a fix for the logging issue. It is nice and simple | 15:34 |
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| manuel1985 | RP: Are you Richard Purdie? | 15:52 |
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| RP | manuel1985: I am | 15:53 |
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| rburton | i wonder why, six years ago, we decided that poky-tiny had to write cpio.gz images | 15:54 |
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| RP | rburton: hmm. Who did it? | 16:04 |
| RP | Saur[m]: patch on the list, hopefully solves your problem | 16:04 |
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| rburton | RP: can I ask for "kernel: make kernel-base recommend kernel-image, not depend" to be merged? | 16:08 |
| RP | Saur[m]: I've posted patches so let me know if it works for you | 16:09 |
| RP | rburton: I meant to, not sure what happened | 16:09 |
| rburton | i'll let you off :) | 16:09 |
| RP | rburton: queued so it will be in the next round of testing | 16:10 |
| rburton | thanks | 16:11 |
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| rburton | RP: re poky-tiny, you, sortof, but the initial commit set IMAGE_FSTYPES explicitly to ext2 cpio.gz | 16:13 |
| RP | rburton: I think the thought was that ext2 wasn't useful | 16:14 |
| rburton | when you removed it, the kernel didn't build the ext2 module | 16:14 |
| rburton | do we testimage poky-tiny at all? | 16:14 |
| RP | sure, but is an ext2 image actually useful for tiny? | 16:14 |
| RP | rburton: I worry that we don't | 16:14 |
| rburton | ext2 is as useful as cpio.gz | 16:15 |
| rburton | its a file system | 16:15 |
| RP | but cpio works with standard tools and is small | 16:15 |
| RP | ext2 doesn't and isn't | 16:15 |
| RP | rburton: if you have a use for ext2... | 16:15 |
| rburton | our use of poky-tiny is a wic image which contains a ext4 | 16:16 |
| rburton | but we're trying to testimage it and poky-tiny is breaking that too | 16:16 |
| RP | why would a tiny system want a journal? | 16:16 |
| rburton | tinyish | 16:16 |
| rburton | and i suspect the fs is created without a journal | 16:16 |
| qschulz | poky-small | 16:16 |
| RP | I suspect tiny should generate a tarball and let wic do whatever with it | 16:17 |
| rburton | i lie, its a wic with a raw copy of a initramfs | 16:17 |
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| RP | moto-timo: I probably need to try another build run. What should I do with the python patches? | 16:36 |
| RP | drop all, drop some, wait a bit longer? | 16:36 |
| moto-timo | RP: I only have 13 errors left... trying to get it done ASAP | 16:36 |
| moto-timo | RP: but you might want to drop all for now and we can try v2 later? | 16:37 |
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| RP | moto-timo: ok | 16:38 |
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| Saur[m] | RP: I looked at the patch and I am very happy you looked at the problem, because I am pretty sure I would never have figured out such a simple solution. I will try it out as soon as I can, but I am currently a bit handicapped by not being able to access my computers at work. | 16:46 |
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| moto-timo | python3-nose still has python2 syntax code in it an fails to compile... ARGH | 17:35 |
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| RP | rburton: you had to send patches which clash with -next didn't you?! :) | 17:43 |
| rburton | ha sorry | 17:43 |
| rburton | i can rebase | 17:43 |
| moto-timo | I don't see anything in oe-core depending on python3-nose...? | 17:45 |
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| RP | rburton: I've sorted since it wasn't hard. Just annoying! | 17:49 |
| RP | We have a fix for (c) on the inclusive language list so I think we're down to one issue "blocking" merge. I'm tempted to merge the -next branches... | 17:59 |
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| JaMa | go for it meta-security/master is no longer compatible with oe-core/master because it already switched to kirkstone COMPAT | 18:14 |
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| moto-timo | RP: almost there for a v2 | 18:26 |
| moto-timo | RP: adding myself as maintainer for the new recipes... | 18:26 |
| moto-timo | is there a mainters entry for bbclasses? | 18:26 |
| moto-timo | s/mainters/maintainers/ | 18:27 |
| moto-timo | oh I forgot the shebang is still wrong (wheel is injecting nativepython3).. need to fix that | 18:28 |
| moto-timo | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50557963/why-does-pip-install-seem-to-change-the-interpreter-line-on-some-machines | 18:33 |
| moto-timo | pip being "helpful" | 18:34 |
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| JaMa | moto-timo: doesn't setuptools/distutils do the same? | 18:56 |
| moto-timo | JaMa: perhaps? maybe we have a patch to prevent that behavior? | 18:57 |
| JaMa | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes/distutils3.bbclass?h=hardknott#n46 | 18:58 |
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| JaMa | I was hit by it when some python scripts were installed outside regular bindir/sbindir and had wrong shebang due to that (as in https://github.com/ros/meta-ros/commit/131f42c8b04204060b59fd97d72922d1e4637115) | 18:59 |
| JaMa | in python2 we had this patch https://git.openembedded.org/meta-python2/tree/recipes-devtools/python/python-native/11-distutils-never-modify-shebang-line.patch?h=master to disable this behavior, but in python3 we depend on the bbclass to fix the shebangs after distutils helpfully replaces them with whatever python interpreter was used during the build | 19:03 |
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| moto-timo | JaMa: I added similar logic to the pip_install_wheel.bbclass | 19:40 |
| moto-timo | RP: just fighting meson now... looks to also be a python interpreter path replacement somewhere | 19:41 |
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| moto-timo | something in the meson-wrapper | 19:44 |
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| moto-timo | my fix for the python interpreter was too aggressive | 20:10 |
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| RP | moto-timo: sounds like good progress. I'd stepped away for food. The logger fix took me enough runtime today! | 20:48 |
| moto-timo | RP: I'm just running one last build before resending v2 | 20:48 |
| moto-timo | of course I torpedoed my build script and have to recreate it... but that's trivial | 20:49 |
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| moto-timo | sakoman: this might be related to openssl 1.1.1m ptest failure: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/17537 | 21:05 |
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| moto-timo | RP: series v2 sent... I saw no errors in building everything in meta that inherits setuptools3-base | 21:25 |
| moto-timo | RP: for qemux86_64 that is | 21:26 |
| * moto-timo crossing fingers for better outcome | 21:26 | |
| RP | moto-timo: thanks, I'll give it a go | 21:26 |
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| RP | khem: there is an OE TSC meeting in 30 mins. We need to talk about github so not sure if you're around/available? | 21:30 |
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| RP | moto-timo: build away... | 21:32 |
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| moto-timo | RP: I'm watching it. Thank you. | 21:32 |
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| Saur[m] | RP: I tried the logging change. It seems to work. It is so much better to see the log of what caused the failure. :) | 21:40 |
| RP | Saur[m]: good. That is why I wanted to get it fixed | 21:41 |
| moto-timo | RP: hmmm, buildtools failed because of dnf | 21:41 |
| moto-timo | might still be some gremlins in nativesdk | 21:42 |
| Saur[m] | RP: I assume it is too late to get it into 3.4.2? | 21:42 |
| RP | Saur[m]: since it is in QA, yes | 21:42 |
| Saur[m] | Thought so. Oh well, as long as it's fixed, I'm happy. :) | 21:43 |
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| moto-timo | RP: yeah, some issues with python3-setuptools, pip in nativesdk :/ | 21:46 |
| sakoman | moto-timo: yes, that does look lie the same issue :-( And sadly still not fixed | 21:47 |
| moto-timo | sakoman: k. I've been slammed with the PEP-517 wheels work but I will try | 21:47 |
| sakoman | moto-timo: should I take the CVE only patch and wait till a later date for the version bump (when it is fixed)? | 21:47 |
| moto-timo | sakoman: entirely up to you... depends on when you wanted to do the next bump | 21:48 |
| RP | moto-timo: still, it looks better than last time! | 21:48 |
| moto-timo | RP: some builds actually passed :) | 21:49 |
| RP | moto-timo: I wasn't going to put it quite that way, but yes :) | 21:49 |
| sakoman | moto-timo: well, the CVE fix is probably the highest priority and the version bump can wait till the ptest regression is figured out | 21:49 |
| moto-timo | sakoman: I agree, given the time contraints | 21:49 |
| sakoman | moto-timo: I will make it so | 21:49 |
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| sakoman | moto-timo: I have a huge patch backlog to get tested and reviewed so I won't have time to work on it for a few days either | 21:51 |
| RP | sakoman: would you like to swap with mine? :) | 21:52 |
| sakoman | RP: not a chance ;-) | 21:52 |
| RP | sakoman: shame :) | 21:53 |
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| moto-timo | RP: edgerouter also failed because of dnf... hmmm | 22:05 |
| moto-timo | ok so it's the python3-pkg-resources split that isn't working properly | 22:07 |
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| moto-timo | RP: my car is ready at the shop so afk for a bit... I'll hammer on this more later but you might be zzzz by then | 23:01 |
| RP | moto-timo: np, thanks. I'll probably drop the set and then we can retest when ready | 23:02 |
| moto-timo | RP: yes, that is prudent | 23:03 |
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| RP | disruptive changes pushed | 23:39 |
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| zeddii | RP: dumb question. is there a way to see where a particular offending variable is set ? I can't do my normal bitbake -e on one that is popping up here. | 23:48 |
| zeddii | I'm grepping of course, and will find it eventually | 23:48 |
| RP | zeddii: it should be printing where it was set | 23:49 |
| RP | zeddii: if it isn't, it is obscure and I'm curious where | 23:49 |
| zeddii | https://paste.debian.net/1231812/ odd | 23:49 |
| zeddii | heh. minial | 23:50 |
| RP | zeddii: so the key there is it is in the environment | 23:50 |
| zeddii | aha. so it's my old build env | 23:50 |
| RP | zeddii: so bitbake doesn't know, it was already there when it was started | 23:50 |
| RP | zeddii: yes, that would do it | 23:50 |
| zeddii | ack'd I should have grok'd that from the message | 23:51 |
| RP | zeddii: it does try and tell you :) | 23:51 |
| zeddii | I was trying to see if I could get my meta-virt tweaks pushed before the inevitable patches, so I was just moving too fast | 23:52 |
| RP | I've reached the point where keeping these in -next wasn't serving any real benefit any more | 23:53 |
| zeddii | agreed. yank off the bandaid | 23:53 |
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