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LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:45 |
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mckoan | good morning | 06:47 |
thomasd13 | Good morning: I try to tackle an do_populate_sdk_ext issue: https://dpaste.com//D48WB8YBR The path for EXTERNAL_TOOLCHAIN is just wrong. But when I check the environment with bitbake -e, it is set to the correct path: https://dpaste.com//CTMU7NJSR | 06:49 |
thomasd13 | How is that possible? | 06:50 |
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thomasd13 | This is the log of do_populate_sdk_ext: http://dpaste.com//EGGQPT8HZ | 06:53 |
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qschulz | greetings people | 08:04 |
thomasd13 | good morning | 08:17 |
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thomasd13 | I have a .inc file which enables multiconfig for the image build. (conf/machine/include/k3.inc:BBMULTICONFIG += "k3r5") I assume this causes trouble when I try to build the eSDK. Is it possible to "disable" multiconfig when I try to build eSDK via -c do_populate_sdk_ext ? | 09:29 |
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thomasd13 | When I use bitbake mc::viop-image, it starts nevertheless the build for these two configurations (normal + k3r5) | 09:32 |
qschulz | the third link on DuckDuckGo when looking for "yocto project summit 2022.05" is the password reset page on pretalx ahahahah | 09:34 |
LetoThe2nd | have there been changes in relation to the inode handling respectively pseudo lately? I'm seein "path mismatch ino" here and there, but can't put my finger onto the reason yet. | 09:35 |
qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I'll always start with this question when there are pseudo issues: "are you running in a rootless podman container" | 09:36 |
LetoThe2nd | qschulz: hrhrhr | 09:36 |
LetoThe2nd | not as far as i know. I've seen it on bare OS, in docker and a coworker reports it on CI | 09:37 |
qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I'm asking because I had issues with rootless podman containers with tlwoerner and we have work arounds | 09:39 |
LetoThe2nd | qschulz: sure, but at least as far as i can see, its not related. | 09:41 |
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sashko | Hello. Bitbake crashes terminal app (or perhaps bash?) leaving me with no logs. Any suggestions on how to debug the issue? | 10:50 |
ptsneves | sashko run bitbake inside an extra shell | 10:51 |
ptsneves | i guess you are having an error in the sourcing script and it closes the shell? | 10:51 |
sashko | no, it happens during configure or build stage on some heavy packages | 10:52 |
ptsneves | ( . oe-init-build-env <build dir> && bitbake <something>) | 10:52 |
ptsneves | ok then i do not know why your terminal app would close | 10:52 |
sashko | it's probably resources related as Linux starts to close other apps, e.g. firefox | 10:53 |
ptsneves | ah ok. If this the case you can try to set some swap for example | 10:54 |
ptsneves | i do not know if bitbake has a way of setting the max memory. I know it can set CPU nice but that is all | 10:55 |
sashko | ran it inside additional shell and it crashed terminal app | 10:55 |
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sashko | afaik there's no way to limit memory usage | 10:56 |
LetoThe2nd | sashko: there is none AFAIK. plus a lot of packages do their own magic | 10:56 |
LetoThe2nd | sashko: how much ram does the build box have? | 10:56 |
sashko | 16 | 10:56 |
qschulz | what people do is usually limit the number of threads | 10:57 |
sashko | monitoring memory usage, I don't see it used 100% | 10:57 |
LetoThe2nd | sashko: you can do a BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "4" for example. | 10:57 |
LetoThe2nd | qschulz: was already typing. | 10:57 |
sashko | qschulz: I set BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "1" and PARALEL_MAKE = "-j 1" | 10:58 |
LetoThe2nd | sashko: then what would that "heavy packages" be, for example? | 10:58 |
sashko | u-boot-fslc and qtbase | 10:58 |
LetoThe2nd | u-boot is not heavy. | 10:58 |
sashko | my laptop seems to disagree :) | 10:59 |
ptsneves | qtbase is likely heavy due to the c++. | 11:00 |
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qschulz | qtbase is a beast yeah | 11:07 |
qschulz | but nothing 16GB of RAM would struggle with | 11:07 |
LetoThe2nd | not debating qtbase. :-) | 11:07 |
LetoThe2nd | qschulz: maybe its the 281 chrome tabs? | 11:07 |
sashko | got lucky and it didn't crash; the problem was "out of memory" | 11:08 |
qschulz | I have built qtbase (with buildroot though) on a 4c/8t 16GB machine without too much hassle | 11:08 |
sashko | it's 4c/8t 16gb, so I'm really surprised | 11:09 |
qschulz | might want to tweak some systemd-oom stuff | 11:09 |
qschulz | (I run a very lightweight desktop environment) | 11:09 |
qschulz | and I had issues before with the OOM killing my terminals | 11:10 |
qschulz | but if you're staying with officially supported DE by your distro, you probably won't have the same issues I had | 11:11 |
sashko | right systemd-oomd, it's new to me - just upgraded to latest ubuntu | 11:11 |
sashko | well, I do running "vanilla" gnome ubuntu | 11:12 |
qschulz | sashko: if this is a work PC, just ask your company to buy a desktop or a server for it | 11:12 |
qschulz | because it's going to be painful building often on that kind of hardware | 11:13 |
sashko | it is. I will, but need to continue now somehow... | 11:13 |
sashko | will try adding swap and tweaking systemd-oomd | 11:13 |
ptsneves | wow 4c/8t 16 is slow? :O | 11:13 |
qschulz | ptsneves: well, my CPU is a laptop Intel U version.. so yes, slow :) | 11:13 |
ptsneves | if you add swap you will not have crashes and you will let the OS cache out some stuff while building. | 11:13 |
qschulz | ptsneves: incorrect, I have 8GB of swap on nvme and systemd-oomd still killed my terminals | 11:14 |
sashko | qschulz: did you manage to find "better" settings for oomd? | 11:15 |
qschulz | sashko: sort of, there is a special systemd unit for my desktop environment that I had to install | 11:19 |
qschulz | seems to have been enough | 11:19 |
qschulz | it's not gnome :) | 11:19 |
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sashko | added 64gb swap and still same crap | 11:39 |
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ptsneves | so you probably have some runnawy process. What is being killed in the OOM? | 11:40 |
sashko | Out of memory: Killed process 56205 (u-boot-fslc:con) total-vm:13435744kB, anon-rss:13182920kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:4kB, UID:1000 pgtables:26164kB oom_score_adj:0 | 11:41 |
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sashko | oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=init.scope,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/app.slice/app-org.gnome.Terminal.slice/vte-spawn-f29fb1e1-cebf-4a79-89fb-43a071f5f88b.scope,task=u-boot-fslc:con,pid=56205,uid=1000 | 11:49 |
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ptsneves | wow u-boot-fslc was using 13435744kB! That is like 13GB | 12:07 |
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ptsneves | Hey. I just sent a largish analysis on a race on kernel.bbclass build to https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/linux-yocto but i sent it through the web interface and it said it is waiting for moderators to approve. I just noticed i was not specifically subscribed to that mailing list. Did I just lose all the text? | 12:11 |
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sashko | what do you mean by "lose all the text"? it's should in in your 'sent' folder | 12:15 |
ptsneves | i used the webinterface, not the email | 12:17 |
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LetoThe2nd | ptsneves: but then there something is b0rk3d, i have certainly built u-boot-fslc on machines with 8GB | 12:30 |
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thomasd13 | Is there some documentation, about how building the SDK (maybe even eSDK) works in detail? | 12:33 |
thomasd13 | More than this: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#document-sdk-manual/index | 12:34 |
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sashko | LetoThe2nd: yes, I've found out do_config ends up in infinite loop. debugging... | 13:02 |
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ptsneves | sorry to insist on the issue, but do you know who is the moderator of linux-yocto mailing list? | 14:58 |
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qschulz | ptsneves: that might be halstead. I've never used the web interface to send a mail before but aren't you supposed to be subscribed to the mailing list to send a message without going through moderation? | 15:05 |
ptsneves | qschulz thank you for the suggestion. I will ping him. Technically you are right, and i think if i wrote an email it would just bounce back. As i used the group.io web interface it just popped a modal saying that my message went into moderation. | 15:06 |
ptsneves | which kind of sucks. It should never accept anything and "bounce" like the email | 15:07 |
qschulz | ptsneves: you can always resend the mail, but since it seems you haven't saved the content that isn't an option right now :) | 15:07 |
qschulz | (resend after subscribing) | 15:07 |
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ptsneves | indeed. that is exactly my issue. I took 2 hours writing the dependency chain and concurrency issue between kernel.bbclass do_compile_kernelmodules and make-mod-scripts:do_configure | 15:09 |
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vvn | which native package provides base64? | 17:24 |
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rfs613 | vvn: normally it comes from coreutils | 18:26 |
rfs613 | (though it's also in busybox and perhaps a few others) | 18:26 |
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cambrian_invader | how can I determine what recipe generates a package? | 19:58 |
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Saur[m] | cambrian_invader: If you have built the package, then you can use `oe-pkgdata-util lookup-recipe <package>` to determine what recipe produced the package. | 20:28 |
cambrian_invader | Saur[m]: thanks! | 20:31 |
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cambrian_invader | when I run bitbake-whatchanged, some tasks get invalidated | 21:38 |
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cambrian_invader | bitbake core-image-full-cmdline -> Attempted 3555 tasks of which 3555 didn't need to be rerun and all succeeded | 21:39 |
cambrian_invader | bitbake core-image-full-cmdline -> Newly added: 16; PV changed: 29 | 21:40 |
cambrian_invader | with nothing changed in between | 21:40 |
cambrian_invader | and then when I run bitbake again it starts rebuilding the stuff that "changed" | 21:40 |
cambrian_invader | after that if I run bitbake-whatchanged again I get "Newly added: 3293 PV changed: 89 Dependencies changed: 96" | 21:48 |
cambrian_invader | err, that's after cherry-picking a commit in a layer | 21:49 |
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turkeykittin | has anyone used cython in yocto successfully? | 22:10 |
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vmeson | turkeykittin: can you explain what you mean? Are you refering to the cython recipe in oe-core: http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3-cython_0.29.28.bb?h=master | 23:48 |
turkeykittin | Unfortunately not as I am on dunfell (3.1) and the earliest release of cython in yocto was 3.1 | 23:49 |
turkeykittin | 3.1* | 23:49 |
turkeykittin | 3.2*** | 23:49 |
vmeson | turkeykittin: ah, did you try to backport it? | 23:50 |
turkeykittin | So I have been trying to see if I could target it anyway and build using the SDK | 23:50 |
turkeykittin | No, didn't use the recipe, just tried to use it by hand | 23:50 |
turkeykittin | i.e. source the SDK at 3.1 and install cython via pip and try to execute | 23:51 |
vmeson | turkeykittin: okay, maybe someone will have more input but I haven't even played with cython, so I'm no help. | 23:51 |
turkeykittin | What about pybind11? :LP | 23:51 |
turkeykittin | :P* | 23:51 |
turkeykittin | Man, lots of fat fingering today | 23:52 |
vmeson | turkeykittin: well, it is Moonday | 23:52 |
turkeykittin | unfortunately everyday is a work day for me :S | 23:52 |
turkeykittin | just different levels of sleep deprivation | 23:53 |
turkeykittin | But yeah I've been trying all sorts of methods to get some CPP and python bindings to work nicely on my yocto build. About to force everything into Hardknott as I just discovered a lot of my dependencies are finally updated to work with it | 23:53 |
vmeson | turkeykittin: I'm not much of a pythonista... hopefully someone else will help out. It might be good to as a more specific question here or on one of the email lists. | 23:55 |
turkeykittin | vmeson: unfortunately it would probably go unanswered especially with a lot of detail because of how particular my setup is. However, hopefully if I get to Hardknott and things are still not working, I can at least ask about the in-built cython recipe and have a more standard configuration to work with... A fresher, non-thrashed environment :X | 23:58 |
vmeson | turkeykittin: ok, good luck! | 23:59 |
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