Tuesday, 2022-06-07

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mckoangood morning06:31
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Alban[m]Hi! I have a recipe that fails compiling, but take more than 1h to build. How can I restart it without having it restart from zero?07:11
mckoanAlban[m]: build it out of Yocto and return into the recipe once you solved the issue in your code07:27
Alban[m]that's not possible, there is tons of dependencies that I can't provide out of yocto07:28
JaMaas long as you don't need to re-run configure you can just hack on it in WORKDIR and when you have something which builds update the recipe07:29
mckoanAlban[m]: you could try with option -c devshell07:29
Saur[m]Alban: If nothing has changed in bitbake's metadata, the build of that recipe will start where it failed. Which typically will result in it failing again...07:30
mckoanSaur[m]: when you call bitbake the whole sources in SRC_URI are rebuild07:31
kroonI thought running the temp/run.* scripts in a "bitbake -c devshell" was about as close as one could get07:32
Saur[m]Well, at least recipes that use Make will just call make, which will start where it was. And I believe it is the same for Meson.07:34
kroonthey will not just call make, they will possibly pass make flags aswell. which will be covered by running temp/run.do_compile07:37
Saur[m]Though I guess it may behave differently depending on whether ${B} == ${S} or not.07:38
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Saur[m]kroon: Of course, what I meant was that I'd you haven't changed the metadata, bitbake will just run the same make command again for that recipe the next time you start bitbake.07:40
Saur[m]if you haven't*07:41
Saur[m]Though typically, if you expect to do a lot of hacking to get the thing building, it is probably easier to just bite the bullet and devtool modify it. An hour is not that much compared to accidentally having the changes wiped because of running something that happens to cause bitbake to remove the source directory...07:46
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Alban[m]in my experience do_compile always restart from scratch if it fails. I'm most probably hitting an OOM condition or some other limit. Waiting 1 hour for each try is just very very painful07:53
Alban[m]I'll give a try to the devshell07:53
Alban[m]The package is qtwebegine, so it has to build a full chromium which is just a pain.07:55
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jclsn[m]qschulz: My password issue has still not resolved. Any ideas why?07:56
Saur[m]Alban: If it is an OOM problem your are having, you should see that in the system logs. And you would have to solve that first, because eventually you will have to have bitbake do the full build of the recipe to proceed. Using devshell or devtool modify is typically for when you have build errors that need to be fixed.08:07
Alban[m]the problem is currently my build container just exit and the build log don't show anything interresting. I need a way to just trigger the faulty condition without having to wait hours each time08:11
Saur[m]Is that an automated build, or are you manually starting the build inside the container? Because if it is the former, then the latter should be the solution.08:14
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Alban[m]It's a manual build but I use a rootless podman container to have reproducible environment. Work quiet well normally, but I'm might be hitting a bug in podman08:17
Saur[m]Well, if the container dies as a result of running bitbake, then it definitely sounds like an OOM. But that should show in the system logs...08:19
Saur[m]Unfortunately, I'm no container expert so I can't help much with that.08:21
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qschulzjclsn[m]: I'm pretty sure the issue you're seeing is unrelated to the password being invalid but more that you have the policy of changing the password on first login?08:27
qschulzjclsn[m]: someone seems to have found the issue on the mailing list08:28
qschulzyou need to generate a sha512 instead of a sha25608:28
qschulzjclsn[m]: if you could test, it'd be really helpful to us :)08:31
qschulzI'm surprised we didn't hit this issue before08:31
jclsn[m]qschulz: I will give that a try08:31
jclsn[m]Sure :)+08:31
qschulzwondering if it's some kind of DISTRO_FEATURES that is enabled or a specific package being enabled/configured some way that triggers this08:32
jclsn[m]I think 95% of the Yocto developers are very reluctant to upgrade to newer release early08:32
jclsn[m]So it might not have been reported yet08:33
jclsn[m]Of not often enough08:33
qschulzjclsn[m]: you're the second one :)08:33
qschulzso that's already way more than we'd like08:33
qschulz(two too many :) )08:33
jclsn[m]But well it is not easy to maintain such a huge and compilcated project perfectly at all times I guess08:34
qschulzjclsn[m]: sure, mistakes happen :) If that's really the issue, we need to figure out if there's a way to write unittests for this (in addition to documenting it obviously)08:35
qschulzjclsn[m]: also, i don't remember but did you test this on vanilla poky with no other layers and no change to the local.conf or something?08:36
rburtonAlban[m]: bitbake most definitely doesn't do a full build from scratch if do_compile fails08:37
rburton*if* the build system supports out of tree builds then do_configure will clean the build tree, but do_compile will not08:37
jclsn[m]qschulz: Of course not. I tested it with my setup.08:38
rburtonthe recipe, or the underlying makefiles, may be doing something dumb, but the expected behaviour is that you can re-run do_compile and it will fail the same, just quicker.08:38
jclsn[m]It seems to login and prompts to change the password right away. I am building the sha512 version ow08:38
Alban[m]rburton: on my machine it always restart from 0, very obvious on large packages like the kernel08:41
rburtonthe process bar will start from 0 because that's how progress bars work08:41
Alban[m]any idea how I could see make lead to that behavior?08:41
rburtonif you;re doing the build in a container, is the build directory being preserved between runs or is it being deleted and re-created?08:42
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rburtonobviously the build tree needs to survive for it to continue08:43
Alban[m]sure, i have the build tree in a mounted volume08:43
lighteagleHi, I'm new to yocto, tell me please what I'm doing wrong. I am building fsl-image-networking and i need to include iwlwifi drivers in the image. I did through bitbake virtual/kernel -c menuconfig changes, then diffconfig, got fragment.cfg and toss it in my layer, during the build you i see that the process takes longer, but the result is no drivers on the final system.08:46
rburtonAlban[m]: for debugging build problems a devshell is best: you can run make by hand, or run what the do_compile task would do by just running temp/run.do_compile directly08:47
rburtonlighteagle: if you enabled the driver as modules, you most likely need to add the modules to the image08:47
rburtonevery module goes into a separate package08:47
lighteagleYes as modules, what can I change to enable them?08:48
lighteagleadd to local.conf?08:48
rburtonlighteagle: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/kernel-dev/faq.html#how-do-i-install-a-specific-kernel-module08:49
rburtonif you have a machine of your own, follow that, otherwise local.conf, image recipe, whatever.  they're just a package, install it.08:50
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lighteagleno the machine is not custom, i.e. should I change drivers not as a module, and add the package to the local conf?08:53
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jclsn[m]qschulz: No, sha512 doesn't work08:57
rburtonlighteagle: your system, your choice.  if you make it built-in then you don't need to install the package as it's built in to the kernel. if you made it a module, just install the package somewhere.08:57
jclsn[m]It also doesn't tell me to change the password anymore08:57
qschulzjclsn[m]: :/08:58
jclsn[m]Maybe it is a kitty issue08:58
jclsn[m]It has some issues with xterm compatibility08:58
jclsn[m]Will try another emulator08:58
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lighteaglerburton thank you very much, but apparently I do not understand some simple thing. Basically I don't care how to add them, I'm used to adding new packages via local.conf, and would appreciate any pointers where, what to change, or how to make it easier for a newbie09:01
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jclsn[m]But if not, no idea what setting could interfere. Maybe the debug-tweaks are messing with it09:03
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jclsn[m]Hmm not a kitty issue apparently09:05
jclsn[m]qschulz: Who is that other user that had issues? Would like to ask him if he solved it09:06
qschulzjclsn[m]: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/16652909:09
jclsn[m]qschulu: Ah, okay. I think he has another issue. He can login but is prompted to change the password. In my case it tells me that, but doesn't let me in. I had the same issue than him on my Raspberry Pi at home. It told me to change the password, but I could log in09:12
jclsn[m]I am not even getting inside here09:12
jclsn[m]Call of qschulu haha09:12
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rburtonlighteagle: easiest is to just set the driver to built-in09:13
qschulzjclsn[m]: you can use tab auto-complete usually in IRC clients :)09:13
qschulz(I know you're on matrix but I'd imagine they have more or less the same shortcut)09:14
jclsn[m]qschulz: Matrix here. I can't connect to the libera server in the company for some reason...09:14
qschulzjclsn[m]: can you login through serial and not ssh or like no-way for both?09:14
qschulzsorry to make you repeat stuff, i forgot most of the issue (if not all :|)09:15
jclsn[m]qschulz: I can change the password via serial. interesting09:16
jclsn[m]only ssh fails09:16
jclsn[m]No worries. I constantly beg for help here. So no problem if I test something for you.09:17
qschulzjclsn[m]: might be some openssh/dropbear limitation?09:17
qschulze.g. is root user allowed to login from ssh?09:17
qschulz(PermitRootLogin in the openssl conf IIRC?)09:17
jclsn[m]The password is also not long enough it seems09:18
jclsn[m]I only had four chars09:18
qschulzjclsn[m]: "test" :D?09:18
jclsn[m]I am more creative than that09:19
jclsn[m]But now I can log in fine via serial but not ssh09:19
jclsn[m]qschulz: Weird09:20
jclsn[m]Maybe because of dropbear hmm09:21
lighteaglerburton: And through fragment.cfg how to add to the final system? I do not want to change someone else's files.09:22
jclsn[m]qschulz: Yes, dropbear did not permit root login09:26
jclsn[m]Maybe consider adding this to the debug-tweaks https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68161323/yocto-dropbear-denying-password09:26
jclsn[m]I should stop changing too many things at the same time. Makes it hard to get to the bottom of things09:29
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Guest73Hello, May I know how to remove python3 from the host and target sdk package ? TOOLCHAIN_HOST_TASK_remove = " nativesdk-python3-core", seems not to work. The image is built on top of core-image. Python3 is not installed to image. We deliver SDK to project teams and they are complaining that python3 in sdk is causing problems after sourcing the sdk.09:36
Guest73They want to use host python3 to do some analysis.09:36
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qschulzjclsn[m]: cool thanks for the report. I think we need to list allow-root-login IMAGE_FEATURES in the docs09:44
rburtonlighteagle: create your own layer with the kernel bbappend and your login09:45
qschulzmichaelo: ^09:46
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ptsneveshey does anybody know where is the linaro presentation on tuxmake? I am not finding it on youtube10:18
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LetoThe2ndptsneves: https://elinux.org/YPS_May2021_Presentations10:21
ptsnevesoh. that is for 2021. https://elinux.org/YPS_May2022_Presentations is empty :(10:23
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LetoThe2ndptsneves: oh yeah, sorry: https://elinux.org/YPS_2022.05_Presentations10:24
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jclsn[m]qschulz: allow-root-login or debug-tweaks don't work for dropbear though. They should imo10:34
jclsn[m]I will make an issue on bugzilla10:34
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jclsn[m]qschulz: Can I make a PR on Github? How do I contribute if I want to add this?10:54
qschulzjclsn[m]: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#submitting-a-change-to-the-yocto-project10:55
qschulzwe do mailing list based contribution, no GitHub PR10:55
jclsn[m]Thanks :) So I forked this for nothing haha10:56
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selffhello everyone. i wrote a hostname changing script. i want this script to be set to default hostname and stand up like that. if the hostname changes when the system up need to do reboot. i need to set it during boot without requiring a reboot. i prepared the recipe as follows : pastebin.com/qRzDB7xi10:59
selffbut it works after the OS is up and i  need to reboot in order for the hostname to be set. how can i do it without the need for a reboot?10:59
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jclsn[m]qschulz: It is in poky/recipes-core, so oe-core mailing list?11:01
qschulzjclsn[m]: then https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/How_to_submit_a_patch_to_OpenEmbedded11:01
RPjclsn[m]: yes11:02
jclsn[m]Okay thanks11:02
jclsn[m]So I need to fork11:02
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jclsn[m]Ah no I send a mail via git11:03
qschulzjclsn[m]: to help you set it up: https://git-send-email.io/11:17
jclsn[m]qschulz: I use Ubuntu btw11:18
jclsn[m]Mainly because my boss forces me to haha11:18
jclsn[m]You guys are probably Gentoo all the way, right?11:19
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LetoThe2ndjclsn[m]: macOS and ubuntu usually, to be honest.11:19
jclsn[m]Mac User raus11:21
qschulzjclsn[m]: Fedora for me :)11:21
jclsn[m]qschulz: Good boy :)11:21
qschulzwe have a bit of everything I think but mostly debian based since it's what most people use for building Yocto projects I believe11:21
* LetoThe2nd shrugs.11:21
jclsn[m]Ah guess setting up git-email with my company mail won't work11:21
qschulz(via containers otherwise)11:21
jclsn[m]Just asking because bitbake is based on Gentoo11:22
qschulzwasn't aware it's how it started11:23
qschulzdon't know if there's much in common today though11:23
jclsn[m]Look at Gentoo eBuilds11:23
RPjclsn[m]: a long time ago, not much of portage is left there11:23
jclsn[m]They look very much like .bb files11:23
jclsn[m]RP: I guess yeah11:23
LetoThe2ndtbh, that argument is like we expect everybody to drive daimler, because the initial car design was by Carl Benz, one of the founders of the company, some 130+x years back.11:26
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jclsn[m]LetoThe2nd: I didn't say everyone should use Gentoo11:30
jclsn[m]I use Manjaro btw11:30
jclsn[m]Mainly because I became too lazy for Arch11:31
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RPjclsn[m]: the current bitbake maintainer has never used gentoo! :)11:37
LetoThe2ndRP: well... using != running11:38
jclsn[m]RP: Good to know. I will rub that under my Gentoo-fantic colleagues's nose who says "It is best to use Gentoo when you work with Yocto"11:40
* landgraf uses Gentoo and Fedora11:42
jclsn[m]git-email doesn't work with my mail provider it seems. Can I not just send a patch to the mailing list?11:43
RPjclsn[m]: you can11:45
RPthat is all git-email does11:46
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qschulzjclsn[m]: not as attachment but mail subject as commit title and mail body as commit log + git diff12:01
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jclsn[m]qschulz: Okay sorry12:34
qschulzjclsn[m]: I use my personal address to send patches to bypass corporate limitations, i understand not everybody wants to do it this way :)12:36
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jclsn[m]I thought that I have to use the one that I registered with and that was my company mail. Else I would rather use my personal12:38
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qschulzyou can register with multiple addresses :)12:38
jclsn[m]Yeah you are right12:38
jclsn[m]Guess I was too lazy12:38
jclsn[m]Another mail to Halstead12:39
qschulzjclsn[m]: I think it's something that maintainers will be willing to do themselves but the commit log should not be indented (let's see ;) )12:39
qschulzthat can now be discussed on the mailing list instead :)12:39
jclsn[m]That is why people use Git email I guess12:40
jclsn[m]Maybe I should make a protonmail account12:40
jclsn[m]I still have this shitty web.de address from like 2001 or something12:41
jclsn[m]Just too lazy to switch12:41
qschulzjclsn[m]: no need for something good privacy-wise for just sending patches :)12:41
jclsn[m]Yeah but it didn't work with web.de. It should support tls and ssl, but both did not work12:42
jclsn[m]Can I just register a second mail or do I have to write Halstead again?12:43
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jclsn[m]Ah nevermind12:45
ramacassis[m]hi all, do you know if it is possible to precise a layer when doing "require recipes-kernel/linux/linux.inc" in a recipe ?12:46
ramacassis[m]the file "linux.inc" actually exists in multiple layers and the version I want is not taken12:46
jclsn[m]ramacassis: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-PREFERRED_PROVIDER12:47
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ramacassis[m]thanks for the links ! I know the PREFERRED_ way to choose between recipes, but in my case it is about an include file12:49
ramacassis[m]dunno if the same mechanism exist12:50
jclsn[m]Not sure there myself12:51
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qschulzmechanism is based on layer priorities12:58
qschulzalso based on BBPATH in layer.conf (which usually is appended with BBPATH .= ...12:58
qschulzin that scenario12:59
ramacassis[m]bad luck here, the BBPATH order does not seem related to my layers' priority13:07
ramacassis[m]bitbake <my_image> -e | grep BBPATH13:07
ramacassis[m]But priority:13:08
ramacassis[m]meta-atmel            [...]/poky/meta-atmel  10                   <= the one I want13:08
ramacassis[m]meta-oe               [...]/poky/meta-openembedded/meta-oe  6      <= the one which is taken13:08
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ramacassis[m]I guess I can avoid the trouble with a local symlink next to my recipe but it's not very clean =)13:09
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qschulzramacassis[m]: just copy the .inc file otherwise13:10
ramacassis[m]indeed, with a good comment and it will be just fine. Thx !13:11
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ptsneveswho is the maintainer of python3? With my shebang QA patch   python3-native breaks the build because of too big paths13:20
qschulzmoto-timo: and rburton are usually the people working the most on Python recipes so would be a safe bet. I guess you could give a bit more info so when they join this chat they have an idea what is being asked13:23
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ptsnevesmoto-timo rburton I submitted a sysroot QA check as in https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/166651 as part of a fix for https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11053 and now i have python3-native failing due to shebang QA triggering. Specifically python-config.py has the following shebang:13:29
ptsnevesgtkdoc is also failing and i am looking into it13:29
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kergothramacassis[m]: BBPATH order is controlled by BBLAYERS order in bblayers.conf, not by BBFILE_PRIORITY. The latter affects recipe priority, but the former affects file inclusion order. They're not the same unless you set up your bblayers to make it so. Long standing behavior. Somewhere around here I have a bitbake-layers subcommand plugin to add a sort-layers command to align the two on demand.. and some setup scripts do so14:28
kergothautomatically, but most don't14:28
ptsneveson latest master when i do devtool update-recipe python3-native -N i get "ERROR: Unable to determine main branch - please check out the main branch in source tree first" Did anybody ever see this error, or why?14:30
qschulzkergoth: what about the order of inclusion in require/include?14:31
qschulzis it dictated by BBPATH too?14:31
qschulzI blindly answered but completely forgot it wasn't a .conf or .bbclass file...14:31
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kergothqschulz: yeah. inherit/require/include all use it. inherit is just a specialized include, really.14:39
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qschulzkergoth: TIL :)14:41
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qschulzramacassis[m]: sorry for the mislead, nothing to do with layer priorities. spoke too fast :/14:44
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ptsnevesi thought include order was determined by how they appeared in the parsing order14:44
qschulzptsneves: it's incidental. it's because by default BBPATH is appended to in layer.conf14:45
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qschulzbut you could prepend to it14:45
qschulzand layer.conf are read in the order in which they appear in BBLAYERS AFAIR14:46
qschulz(please don't prepend to BBPATH :) )14:46
ptsnevesdo we really need BBFILE_PRIORITY then?14:46
qschulzfor recipes and bbappends yes14:46
Guest87is there a way to run a command when bitbake finishes running within bitbake?14:51
qschulzGuest87: what exactly is your usecase?14:52
Guest87qschulz: i wanted to send myself a notification of some variety when a lengthy build is done14:52
kergothGuest87: see the bitbake user manual, the section about events. various events are fired during a build, when it starts, ends, when tasks run, etc. You'd want the BuildCompleted event. a .inc/.bb/.bbclass can use addhandler to add a python event handler to run then.14:53
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ramacassis[m]<qschulz> "ramacassis: sorry for the..." <- no problem really ! in the end changing the layers order in bblayers.conf (and bblayers.conf.sample) perfectly did the job, thx for the help15:01
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ramacassis[m]Guest87: if it's just a simple notification on your machine you could use directly the command line15:12
ramacassis[m]$ bitbake <recipe>; zenity --info --text="Compilation done" (or using notify-send, or sendmail, or whatever)15:12
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ramacassis[m](doubtful that it answers your need but we never know =) )15:16
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kergothramacassis[m]: yeah, sometimes that's for the best :) not *everything* has to be done within bitbake..15:59
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moto-timobitbake make me a sandwich16:12
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kergothhehe. There was a long standing joke that bitbake could do anything you told it to do, including order a pizza. I'm not sure anyone ever bothered actually doing it, though :)16:13
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michaeloqschulz: thanks for the suggestion about "allow-root-login". I added it to my todo list.16:16
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RPkergoth: there are things you don't do with bitbake? :) I thought we even planned pizza ordering!17:01
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rburtonptsneves: at a conference but if you mail me something I might be able to look later18:51
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yudjinn[m]can someone help me understand what the error message "No recipes available for: ....bbappend" means?19:08
zeddiiyudjinn[m]: the bbappend has to match the recipe name, and version, unless you use the % wildcard for the version. it's telling you that there's no match19:16
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yudjinn[m]That makes sense, thanks!19:47
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yudjinn[m]Im using the meta-tegra dunfell-32.6.1 branch when building and getting a "drivers/net/usb/lan78xx.c: patch does not apply", I couldnt find any info about it and was wondering if anyonehad ideas21:46
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