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| Saur[m] | DougC: insane.bbclass looks for the string "is unsafe for cross-compilation" in the config.log file. So if you want to know what's causing it, that's where you should start looking. | 00:42 |
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| AKN | Hi everyone, Anyone worked on brcmfmac43430 chipset? | 05:56 |
| AKN | <AKN> 5.649444] of_get_named_gpiod_flags: parsed 'reset-gpios' property of node '/brcmf_pwrseq[1]' - status (0) | 05:56 |
| AKN | <AKN> [ 11.296356] brcmfmac: brcmf_fw_alloc_request: using brcm/brcmfmac43430-sdio for chip BCM43430/1 | 05:56 |
| AKN | <AKN> [ 12.445831] brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_htclk: HT Avail timeout (1000000): clkctl 0x50 | 05:56 |
| AKN | <AKN> [ 13.485778] brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_htclk: HT Avail timeout (1000000): clkctl 0x50 | 05:56 |
| AKN | <AKN> I tried most of the nvram files available on internet still getting the same error. | 05:56 |
| AKN | <AKN> Linux bbai 5.10.120-gd5f4ca50bb #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jun 29 03:06:40 UTC 2020 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux | 05:56 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:10 |
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| roussinm | so in my adventure trying to have a nativesdk for developement, I'm trying to install nativesdk-libgl-mesa-dev, but it doesn't install any file inside the sdk. Looking at the packages-split I see the files, but they are not installed. I see that the directory is inside qtbase as a runtime-rprovides. Now I'm wondering it is because of the virtual-ness of the recipe that it doesn't install? Or I'm | 14:06 |
| roussinm | missing something that I don't understand of Yocto here. | 14:06 |
| JPEW | tlwoerner: Is there a "generic" link for the YPS I can use in a presentation? All I've found is the ones for specific "instances" | 14:08 |
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| tlwoerner | JPEW: maybe https://elinux.org/YoctoProject_Presentations ? | 14:15 |
| JPEW | tlwoerner: not exactly what I was looking for... More of "what link would I send someone who's never heard of YPS before" | 14:19 |
| tlwoerner | JPEW: i don't think we have something like that. it would have to be created | 14:20 |
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| tlwoerner | ndec: ^^ do we have a generic "this is what yps is" page that isn't linked to a specific instance of yps? | 14:21 |
| tlwoerner | i.e. the class definition ;-) | 14:22 |
| ndec | i don't think we have that.. | 14:22 |
| ndec | now that it becomes the 'norm' perhaps we could have a mention on the website? | 14:23 |
| ndec | that might even make this page look nicer https://www.yoctoproject.org/community/events/ | 14:23 |
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| DougC | Saur[m] thanks for the tip | 14:42 |
| DougC | Saur[m] that message never appears in the log but i still get the QA issue | 14:46 |
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| lxc | I'm trying to add liblsan to yocto sdk via TOOLCHAIN_TARGET_TASK. But only able to add gcc-sanitizers there. How to make liblsan be included as well? | 15:03 |
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| hushmoney | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND are these examples correct? based on the description wouldn't it be better to modify using .=";function; ..."? | 15:18 |
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| hushmoney | i guess not because when i tried that it complained with some stacktrace in yacc.py | 15:28 |
| Theo[m]1 | Hello all. I've been having errors with toaster when using an external DB. Is it better to seek for help here in IRC or via the toaster mailing list? (MySQL fails when running migration in a fresh db due an alter in orm.0020_models_bigautofield and PostgreSQL have issues once a build is submitted to toaster) | 15:33 |
| landgraf | What's the difference between append (aka +=) and :append ? | 15:59 |
| landgraf | nvm found the answer in the docs | 16:00 |
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| Saur[m] | DougC: Are you looking at the config.log file inside the build directory? It should be somewhere inside tmp-cdil-glibc/work/cortexa53-linaro-linux/opal/3.18-beta9-r0/git if I read your log correctly. | 16:34 |
| DougC | oh no. i was looking at the yocto log | 16:35 |
| DougC | ty | 16:35 |
| DougC | Saur[m] interesting. i dont see anything 'unsafe', but i do see some interesting errors that appear to be a side effect of me inheriting from autotools and letting the default do_configure do its thing | 16:40 |
| DougC | lots of unrecognized command line options | 16:41 |
| DougC | this is good. thank you for pointing that out. i have some more to chew on now | 16:43 |
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| jackos888[m] | Hello... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/80cf22cbcc4207141a2a776b02e703f49d9e8e50) | 17:33 |
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| fullstop | This might not be the right place to ask this, but maybe someone here has run into this problem as well. I have a dunfell-based embedded system with openssh on it using systemd socket activation. It's worked wonderfully for us, but the openssh version on my desktop was upgraded and scp now uses SFTP by default. | 18:38 |
| fullstop | when I try to scp something to these systems, I have to use "scp -O" to use the legacy protocol or I receive the message "scp: Connection closed" | 18:39 |
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| fullstop | This only happens with the yocto-based setups, so it's not a new -> old openssh thing. | 18:44 |
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| fullstop | oh, wow, openssh-sftp-server isn't installed. oops | 18:51 |
| twnqx | the wonderful new defaults in openssh 9 :) | 19:09 |
| * twnqx makes a ticket to add it for next OS release | 19:09 | |
| twnqx | thanky ou for the reminder! | 19:09 |
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| Guest38 | Trying to upgrade the Yocto toolchains but one of the bootloaders is not happy about it. Is there a way to have yocto use an older toolchain just for 1 package? | 20:06 |
| Guest38 | The meta-clang layer seems to be able to do this but that's kind of different maybe. | 20:08 |
| Guest38 | We would still like to use GCC for this. | 20:08 |
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| JaMa | it might be easier to just fix the bootloader | 20:17 |
| Guest38 | Its been weeks of working on that. | 20:17 |
| Guest38 | The problem is we only have like 20bytes left before the compiler upgrade. | 20:17 |
| JaMa | yes it's painful, but it's way forward, spending weeks to build it with old toolchain will just postpone the issue | 20:18 |
| JaMa | check https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Adding_a_secondary_toolchain but it's not straight-forward as well | 20:19 |
| Guest38 | There are other areas where the toolchain can't be updated because the kernel is on 2.6 and won't support past gcc5. Updating the kernel on those systems is probably not possible either. | 20:19 |
| RP | combo-layer is horrible? :) | 20:19 |
| JaMa | compared to gcc-2.95? :) | 20:21 |
| RP | JaMa: it is all relative :) | 20:22 |
| RP | (I'm watching abelloni's autobuilder/swat presentation) | 20:22 |
| JaMa | agreed, personally I don't like combo-layer to be used on regular basis (like poky is using), but it was great tool when combining multiple separate repos into one with reasonable git history | 20:23 |
| RP | JaMa: Just to be clear, it is horrible! It was ok at a time but has had it's day :) | 20:24 |
| JaMa | and the only reason why I don't like to use it on regular basis, because it's "good" for poky repo, but everybody else has to deal with multiple repos anyway, so it would be easier for everybody else if oe-core+bitbake+meta-yocto were handled the same (instead of combined already as poky) | 20:25 |
| JaMa | but it's true that I don't like git submodules and repo as well, so maybe it's just me getting more and more grumpy with age :) | 20:27 |
| RP | JaMa: if/when we get some standardised setup tool, poky will switch | 20:28 |
| JaMa | I wanted to write "challenge accepted", but I know how ugly that can of worms is, so I'll stay quiet :) | 20:29 |
| JaMa | I helped to write LGE's setup tool and I still don't like it as well | 20:30 |
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| RP | JaMa: I did once write a design which I shared with a small number of people. The replies put me off touching it | 20:32 |
| JaMa | I was replying to some concepts on ML and for me the biggest fear is that in this case one tool cannot fit all (e.g. all our specific sauce to support doing different kinds of jenkins jobs which might fetch various layers in different versions with gerrit specific calls like fetching open reviews or overriding recipe SRC_URI/SRCREV based on review for specific component etc), either the tool would need to be | 20:36 |
| JaMa | super customizable (difficult) or it might be complicated to extend to cover whatever strange use-cases we already support with own setuptool | 20:36 |
| RP | JaMa: right, one won't suit everyone but I'd hope we could have something more standard people could start from | 20:37 |
| JaMa | in the end I wrote simple django app to generate the build config, which is then persited as a review in gerrit repo which then triggers various jenkins jobs which read the build config from the review | 20:37 |
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| JaMa | I still haven't played with kas, it's still on my TODO | 20:39 |
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| RP | JaMa: I hear a lot of good things about it | 20:43 |
| * JaMa too | 20:44 | |
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| Lemur-for-rent | Hey all | 20:57 |
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| Lemur-for-rent | Is it possible for a layer to append config content to local.conf? | 20:58 |
| Lemur-for-rent | i.e. I'm adding a custom layer built around a certain feature. I'd like the addition of that layer to extend local.conf with new options. | 20:59 |
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| JaMa | Lemur-for-rent: why local.conf? You can do a lot of stuff in layer.conf, but be careful a lot of these things are considered asocial and for a good reason | 21:10 |
| JaMa | Lemur-for-rent: sometimes the reasonable compromise is for the layer to provide an .inc file and documenting the users are expected to include that to get all the features (or depending on some DISTRO_FEATURE to be enabled) | 21:12 |
| JaMa | just including a layer in bblayers.conf shouldn't cause (m)any unexpected side-effects to existing metadata | 21:13 |
| halstead | Hey GregStinocher[m] welcome to #yocto. | 21:13 |
| GregStinocher[m] | Thanks halstead:libera.chat ! | 21:15 |
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| halstead[m] | Pinging myself halstead sorry for the noise. | 21:17 |
| GregStinocher[m] | ping halstead | 21:17 |
| GregStinocher[m] | that looks better. | 21:18 |
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| GregStinocher[m] | halstead: another ping | 21:19 |
| halstead | Perfect. | 21:20 |
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| RP | GregStinocher[m]: welcome :) | 21:25 |
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| GregStinocher[m] | Thanks RP ! | 21:34 |
| Lemur-for-rent | JaMa: Thanks. You say `just including a layer in bblayers.conf shouldn't cause (m)any unexpected side-effects to existing metadata` but doesn't that action by default affects the active recipes (by having bbappends for those recipes)? Is that "m" in m(any)? :) | 21:36 |
| JaMa | Lemur-for-rent: ideally even the .bbappends should be controlled by some DISTRO_FEATURE or something, but in some cases it's more practical to break this rule (e.g. if the layer is completely useless without changing some PACKAGECONFIGs in some other recipes or enabling something in layer.conf, then I can imagine the argument that people just don't include it in bblayers.conf unless they really want all the | 21:41 |
| JaMa | side-effects from including it as well, but it shouldn't be taken lightly, that's why the (m) | 21:41 |
| JaMa | e.g. meta-security/README: DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " security" or meta-virtualization/README: DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " virtualization" | 21:42 |
| JaMa | this is needed to make the layer yocto-compatible, but in practise 99% users of these layers probably just include them in the bblayers.conf as well as add this DISTRO_FEATURE | 21:43 |
| JaMa | so it's just extra step to keep yocto-compatible script happy, but doesn't prevent the layers doing toxic stuff (not in the 2 examples I've mentioned I believe) | 21:44 |
| Lemur-for-rent | Oooo! I think I just might have gotten a conceptual level up on the purpose of DISTRO_FEATURES, thank you for that. | 21:46 |
| Lemur-for-rent | Until your post I always though having a layers bbappends appending all the recipes they want is an unavoidable fact of adding a new recipe. | 21:46 |
| Lemur-for-rent | Sure, one is still at the mercy of the of the layer creator, but at least there is a clear mechanism on how to prevent that behavior (if for example you just need a recipe from a layer and don't want it to affect other recipes with its bbappends) | 21:46 |
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| RP | Lemur-for-rent: adding a layer should not by default change the behaviour of the system, unless you actually enable it to do so as well | 21:55 |
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| turkeykittin | How can I debug log something in a recipe? I'm trying to pass an environment variable in my recipe but I want to check what that variable is (i.e. check if it has been properly set) | 23:06 |
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| JaMa | turkeykittin: bitbake -e or bitbake-getvar | 23:11 |
| turkeykittin | Would an enviromental variable set by one recipe be readable by another? | 23:12 |
| JaMa | as in BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE BB_ENV_PASSTHROUGH_ADDITIONS ? or just exported in some task? if the later then no | 23:13 |
| JaMa | if the other recipe depends on the first, then you can stage a file in sysroot and the other one can read it | 23:14 |
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