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| sotaoverride | where're the docs for CONVERSION_CMD at? | 01:22 |
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| diamondman | @RP This recipe is built both NATIVE and TARGET. I forgot that the .proto files work file with the TARGET build, but the NATIVE builds required the `SYSROOT_DIRS_NATIVE += "/usr/share/protos". When I build a native recipe that relies on my proto recipe's native build, the proto files are not copied from my proto recipe's sysroot-destdir to the dependent recipe's sysroot. Trying to understand how `do_prepare_recipe_sysroot` works. | 01:56 |
| diamondman | Sigh, sorry I messed up the formatting. | 01:57 |
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| fray | wow | 03:12 |
| fray | oops | 03:12 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:55 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:19 |
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| rfuentess | Hi! I'm a rookie with yocto. I have been reading https://docs.yoctoproject.org/overview-manual and the reference-manual but I have many questions | 07:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: just shoot them, and we'll try to help as much as possible. | 07:36 |
| rfuentess | I'm trying to add a dependency in a recipe A for use the libnl library. I understand said library is already at poky/meta/recipes-support/libnl/libnl_3.5.0.bb | 07:37 |
| rfuentess | So, in our recipe A, I'm adding `libnl` to `DEPENDS`. When I run bitbake to bake said recipe I can found reference to the libraries | 07:38 |
| rfuentess | when I build the tar image for our target host, in the manifest I can see the .so files. However, neither in the tall, nor at the target host I see the files | 07:39 |
| rfuentess | and I'm totally lost | 07:39 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: summary would be: 1) you have a recipe that DEPENDS on libnl, which builds fine 2) you have added your recipe to the image 3) you want to use whatever the recipe provides on your target, then... what happens? | 07:41 |
| rfuentess | 3) Recipe A tries to build using Cmake, but said tool is unable to find the package libnl. | 07:42 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: wait. cmake is running at build time. | 07:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: thats why i explicitly added "builds fine" in 1). but that is the real problem? | 07:43 |
| rfuentess | LetoThe2nd: not sure. I mean, if I understand correctly, by having libnl at DEPENDS, implies that libnl's recipe is executed first. If there was a problem (like not recipe) it will fail with an explicit message, right ? | 07:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: yes i will be built first. but it will be available only for the recipe that depends on it. | 07:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: so in a nutshell, you do "bitbake A" and it fails because cmake can't find libnl. is that correct? | 07:46 |
| rfuentess | yep | 07:47 |
| rfuentess | LetoThe2nd: I was not sure if the problem was that recipe A's Cmake is looking for libnl in another place than where B's deploy it. That is why I look into the manifest file, to see if the libraries binaries where somewhere | 07:48 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: then my guess is that your CMakeLists.txt is not properly looking for libnl. make sure you're using the correct mechanism, like pkg-config etc. | 07:49 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: no, the resulting image and manifests are the wrong place to look at. those are only generated upon a completed build, and as your recipe doesn't build, it doesn't go into them, and neither do its dependencies. | 07:50 |
| rfuentess | LetoThe2nd: oh | 07:50 |
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| rfuentess | LetoThe2nd: in case that I need to move binaries from some place, the ideal it would be a .bbapend file, right ? (e.g. libnl_%.bbappend ) | 07:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: technically, yes. practically, fix your usecase. | 08:01 |
| LetoThe2nd | because you end up with an append that you have to maintain and which *WILL* give you headaches. fix the cause, not apply a band-aid. | 08:01 |
| rfuentess | Ok. sadly I was purist make guy. Cmake is relatively new to me. The issue would be entirely in how cmake was deployed in recipe A, right ? or there could be a risk that libnl's recipe is not properly creating a libnl.pc file ? | 08:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: again *technically* there always is the chance of a bug in libnl or its recipe. practically, i would say you have a close to 100% chance that your cmake usage is buggy. | 08:04 |
| rfuentess | LetoThe2nd: thanks. I'm rookie in too many parts of our process. So, having at least a north to where to focus my attention is great | 08:08 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: maybe this can help you: https://youtu.be/NmPta5w6P70 | 08:10 |
| rfuentess | by the way. One question concerning .bbappends files. I understand from the manual that recipes are hierarchy in nature. But, in case where you want to add extra stuff to recipes at poky into a meta-custom-project. Which should be the path ? | 08:11 |
| rfuentess | Let¿s take poky/meta/recipes-support/libnl/libnl_3.5.0.bb. as an example, if I want to expand that recipe should be fine to create meta-custom-project/recipes/libnl_3.5.0.bb or should be `meta-custom-project/recipes-support/libnl/libnl_3.5.0.bb` ? | 08:12 |
| rfuentess | I'm not sure if I'm mixing things here. | 08:12 |
| rfuentess | or also if it is always better to use ".bbapends" instead of overriding the original recipe | 08:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: it "depends" on what you *actually* want to do. | 08:13 |
| rfuentess | in this case, I just want to understand what is "better practice" and what is required for yocto to work with the hierarchy approach. | 08:16 |
| rfuentess | We already have a custom software layer. But I have a lot of problem reading the recipes or understand where to look. In particular to distinguish recipes that are overriding anything from poky or just extending them | 08:18 |
| rfuentess | the .bbappend files are extension. But then, I don't know if the full path play a part for yocto or just the file name | 08:19 |
| LetoThe2nd | rfuentess: the path doesn't matter, its just the filename. but the rest - it really depends on what you want to do. "just extending" is not exactly a technically concise term, so its hard to give advice based on that. | 08:22 |
| rfuentess | LetoThe2nd: thanks. Yeah. In this case, I'm trying to understand what we have xD | 08:23 |
| rfuentess | (And what may be bad practice) | 08:23 |
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| RP | diamondman: remember that the layout for native is quite different so /usr/share/protos is not correct | 09:14 |
| RP | diamondman: add ${datadir} and install to ${D}${datadir} - the longer prefix in there is important | 09:15 |
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| ptsneves | RP what is the rationale for the huge paths on the native case? | 09:45 |
| RP | ptsneves: see the mailing list or the manual, I'm not explaining it all again | 09:46 |
| ptsneves | sure ;) | 09:47 |
| RP | ptsneves: summary - it makes a lot of sense when you look at the details | 09:47 |
| ptsneves | i still have not gotten to my head that the manual now, not only has how to info, but explanations and rationales | 09:48 |
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| mcfrisk | I'm getting requests to support developer use cases on the Mac OSX M1 arm machines. Any hints to setup bitbake builds or how to build SDKs with cross toolchain for Linux aarch64? | 10:35 |
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| RP | mcfrisk: SDKMACHINE = "aarch64" ? | 10:35 |
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| mcfrisk | RP: yep, that would create arm binary SDK which developers can run under some Linux docker thingy, I guess | 10:38 |
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| mcfrisk | how about native bitbake builds? | 10:38 |
| mcfrisk | also only with Linux and docker? | 10:38 |
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| rburton | mcfrisk: pseudo literally can't work on macos | 11:13 |
| rburton | unless you're happy to turn off all the security stuff, the darwin-LD_LIBRARY_PRELOAD doesn't work anymore | 11:14 |
| rburton | there are numerous lightweight linux-in-container things appearing now though | 11:14 |
| rburton | i've been meaning to try https://github.com/lab47/isle or https://github.com/containers/krunvm | 11:16 |
| RP | mcfrisk: as rburton says, pseudo is the first big problem | 11:17 |
| rburton | i started poking at this many years ago, just before pseudo wasn't possible. there's a surprising amount of software which assumes its building on linux/gnu and won't build with BSD userspace | 11:18 |
| rburton | but modern macos has containers, so that's the answer | 11:18 |
| rburton | and yocto builds on arm just fine, so you don't need to worry about emulating a x86 (although rosetta is basically magic) | 11:19 |
| rburton | installing krunvm now to see how good it is | 11:19 |
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| ruslan | Hi! During a build I getting warning: | 11:29 |
| ruslan | WARNING: ../meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3_3.10.4.bb:do_install is tainted from a forced run | 11:30 |
| ruslan | I'm not clear what does it mean and what can I do with that. | 11:30 |
| RP | ruslan: it means you ran "bitbake python3 -c install -f" at some point | 11:39 |
| landgraf | ruslan: find . -name '*taint' -delete | 11:39 |
| landgraf | RP: or -C install | 11:39 |
| RP | or bitbake python3 -c clean | 11:39 |
| RP | (to remove it) | 11:39 |
| RP | landgraf: indeed, that too | 11:40 |
| rburton | i don't recommend using a find -delete here | 11:40 |
| landgraf | for some reason I had to delete it manualy `-c clean` is better way indeed | 11:41 |
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| ruslan | Ok, thanks | 11:44 |
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| neverpanic | mcfrisk: Yeah, cross-compiling from macOS to Linux is pretty much dead, and what rburton said about LD_PRELOAD, too. podman or https://github.com/lima-vm/lima are simple solutions to start containers transparently in a linux vm on macOS, I'd recommend those. | 12:05 |
| mcfrisk | thanks RP, rburton and neverpanic! will try those out.. | 12:24 |
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| rburton | So I wrote a tool to browse pkgdata nicely. It's very much a work-in-progress, but https://gitlab.com/rossburton/pkgexp does actually work (with caveats) | 12:34 |
| RP | rburton: yay :) | 12:43 |
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| hushmoney | i'm trying to write an IMAGE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND to generate a tarball with a build number suffix which increments each time. i wrote apython __anonymous function to read it from a file, and after the tarball is generated i add 1 and write back to the file. but now my builds keep failing with this "basehash value changed from <hash> to <hash>. The metadata is not determinsitic and this needs to be fixed." | 13:00 |
| hushmoney | it tells me to use bitbake my-image -cdo_rootfs -Snone and then -Sprintdiff, but when i use the first command i get the same error, so i'm not able to see a diff | 13:01 |
| hushmoney | i think i'm supposed to set something like "MY_TARBALL_NAME ?= "${DISTRO}-${DISTRO_VERSION}-${BUILD_NUMBER}" and MY_TARBALL_NAME[vardepsexclude] = "BUILD_NUMBER" but that didn't resolve it. i think i misunderstand something | 13:03 |
| hushmoney | is there a reason why what i'm trying to do wouldn't work or should i do this some other way? | 13:04 |
| landgraf | rburton: 'Template 'base.tpl' not found.` :( | 13:08 |
| rburton | damnit! | 13:08 |
| rburton | my bottle looks for .html too | 13:09 |
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| rburton | landgraf: fetch again | 13:12 |
| landgraf | rburton: better now. Thanks :) | 13:16 |
| rburton | Thanks for noticing :) | 13:18 |
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| RP | hushmoney: the trouble is the metadata isn't deterministic. It can't tell what the build number should be just from parsing. You're looking along the right lines for the fix (vardepsexclude) but hard to say exactly what to do without knowing the change you made | 13:24 |
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| hushmoney | RP: ok thanks. i'll keep tinkering with it. at least it is good to know that i am not off in the weeds | 13:28 |
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| rburton | RP mcfrisk: fwiw, i'm trying a bitbake inside a kas container inside krunvm on my m1 MBP now | 13:49 |
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| rburton | it was surprisingly trivial to setup | 13:49 |
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| sotaoverride | what all is the CONVERSION_CMD variable used for? | 14:20 |
| sotaoverride | why do the docs not talk about it? | 14:20 |
| sotaoverride | why oh why | 14:21 |
| rburton | michaelo: canyou take an action to add CONVERSION_CMD to the variable reference | 14:22 |
| rburton | sotaoverride: its an image conversion, image_types.bbclass has lots of examples which are fairly self-explanatory | 14:22 |
| Guest40 | hello - having an issue with loading a qt application - when bit baking recipe for application I get the following error | 14:22 |
| Guest40 | error unknown module(s) in qt: quick | 14:22 |
| Guest40 | I have installed - qtdeclarative5-dev | 14:23 |
| sotaoverride | michaelo: I can send you patch for CONVERSION_CMD, once ive read up it a little | 14:24 |
| sotaoverride | read up on it* | 14:24 |
| Guest40 | Qt version is 5.12 .8 attempting to build on Variscite iMX8 with Dunfell 3.1 | 14:28 |
| Guest40 | any reason to think its a version issue with Qt | 14:29 |
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| sotaoverride | CONVERSION_CMD use ${type} a lot. where does this type variable get initialized? | 14:47 |
| rburton | sotaoverride: the image logic sets it when fetching the right variable | 14:48 |
| sotaoverride | rburton: what bbclass does that happen in usually? | 14:49 |
| sotaoverride | Im trying to understand the flow of things here.. | 14:49 |
| rburton | image.bbclass | 14:49 |
| sotaoverride | ok so this conversion command basically just creates a .xz, .gx ,whatever for an image type, lets say .ext4 | 14:51 |
| rburton | yeah | 14:52 |
| rburton | its just a thing you can do to an existing file, unlike the generation commands which make a thing from a rootfs | 14:52 |
| sotaoverride | whats an example of a generation command? | 14:53 |
| rburton | mkfs.ext4 | 14:53 |
| sotaoverride | ok | 14:53 |
| rburton | so if your image type is ext4.md5 then it generates an ext4 and then 'converts' it to generate a md5 | 14:53 |
| sotaoverride | 'converts' term makes sense when im converting a ext4 to an ext.xz.. for the checksums Im just generating them againt the images, not really converting anything | 14:55 |
| rburton | it was originally called COMPRESSION so conversion is an improvement | 14:56 |
| ptsneves | :D | 14:56 |
| sotaoverride | i see what you mean tho... we are just slapping conversion commands onto these COVERSION_CMD variables. | 14:56 |
| rburton | converts the ext4 to a md5 file | 14:56 |
| sotaoverride | ok, I guess that makes sense | 14:56 |
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| sotaoverride | rburton: to associate vars to a package I usually see the ${PN}- syntanx being used. why is that not the case with CONVERSION_CMD, what am I missing here | 15:01 |
| sotaoverride | its just getting asscoated to image types I guess | 15:01 |
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| rburton | there's no package relationship here | 15:02 |
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| roussinm | When I'm launching a qtapplication while using the nativesdk which I have been working on, I get paths from the work dir for the fonts: /usr/local/oe-sdk-hardcoded-buildpath/sysroots/x86_64-ekosdk-linux/usr/share/fonts. Obviously that path doesn't exist. Is that part of the relocation process? | 15:23 |
| hushmoney | RP: not sure what i'm missing. https://pastebin.com/zaPABUc2 | 15:27 |
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| zeddii | LetoThe2nd: https://www.popsci.com/science/metal-music-good-for-you/ | 15:43 |
| LetoThe2nd | zeddii: \m/ | 15:46 |
| RP | hushmoney: that anonymous python code will cause the file to be attempted even when just parsing :/ | 15:57 |
| RP | hushmoney: I'd have said TARBALL_NUMBER[vardepvalue] = "1" should have worked | 15:57 |
| RP | hushmoney: check the signatures and check there isn't some other issue coming in through something like DISTRO_VERSION ?> | 15:58 |
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| diamondman | @RP: Wow... I always was annoyed when I saw those full paths (like `/home/{USER}/{REPO}/yocto/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/{RECIPE}/1.0-r0/image/home/{USER}/{REPO}/yocto/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/{RECIPE}/1.0-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/share/proto/test.proto`) But that extended prefix you suggested worked! Thank you! I clearly am missing information on why this is necessary. What do I need to read to understand? | 17:05 |
| michaelo | sotaoverride, rburton: sure, thanks for the patch! | 17:08 |
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| hushmoney | RP: there isn't, it works fine if i remove the anonymous function. is there another way you can think of that i could implement this logic? | 17:39 |
| hushmoney | also does the ordering matter? like if TARBALL_NUMBER[vardepvalue]="1" appears before or after the function? | 17:41 |
| hushmoney | i don't understand why it works for DATETIME. isn't it essentially the same thing? DATE and TIME are set with := "${@time.strftime()}", and then variables use VAR[vardepsexclude]+="DATETIME" | 17:45 |
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| hushmoney | i guess i could make the TARBALL_NAME take some placeholder pattern and then substitute it with an incrementing number from the make_tarball task, that would avoid the anonymous python from executing during parsing | 17:49 |
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| RP | hushmoney: try adding a d.setVarFlag("TARBALL_NUMBER", "vardepvalue", "1") in the anon function after you set the variable | 17:51 |
| RP | diamondman: the paths are annoying but correct. I think the manual tries to explain why | 17:51 |
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| diamondman | @RP: Okay, I will try to find information on that to understand better. If anyone knows of a useful link on this topic, I would appreciate it. | 17:52 |
| diamondman | @RP Thanks again, I was able to get things building because of your input. | 17:53 |
| hushmoney | RP: i don't believe it, that worked! why does it have to be set from inside the function? | 17:57 |
| RP | diamondman: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#faq "Why do ${bindir} and ${libdir} have strange values for -native recipes?" | 17:57 |
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| RP | hushmoney: the d.setVar() cleared the variable's flags | 17:58 |
| hushmoney | d'oh!! | 17:58 |
| hushmoney | thanks so much, this has been a thorn in my side for over a day now | 17:58 |
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| RP | hushmoney: I didn't realise the problem at first :/ | 18:08 |
| hushmoney | it is a little tricky. i'm partly still considering going with my second idea of using a pattern and moving all logic into the make_tarball task just so that there isn't such trickiness | 18:12 |
| hushmoney | or i might just leave it and write a good comment. either way it was a good learning experience. thanks again | 18:13 |
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| Xagen | is there a way to use a wildcard for recipe names with bitbake? | 18:46 |
| JPEW | Xagen: .bbappend files can have a `%` | 18:47 |
| Xagen | like "bitbake -c cleanall prefix-*" to match anything starting with prefix? | 18:47 |
| JPEW | Xagen: No not like that (AFAIK) | 18:47 |
| Xagen | JPEW: understood, thanks | 18:47 |
| roussinm | Is the recipe parsing is worst if I set PACKAGECONFIG overrides inside our distro.conf vs in a .bbappend? | 18:48 |
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| diamondman | RP: Thanks for the info! | 19:19 |
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| Soopaman | greetings all! | 19:49 |
| Soopaman | are there any updated tutorials on creating a westeros or wayland WPE build for raspberrypi (3b+,4) or beaglebone black hardware? | 19:50 |
| Soopaman | I get my environment setup | 19:50 |
| Soopaman | and poky installed | 19:51 |
| Soopaman | but even with a proper conf, bitbake does nothing | 19:51 |
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| Soopaman | ugh | 20:03 |
| JPEW | Not sure about westeros, but weston isn't too hard to get working | 20:09 |
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| NJ97 | Getting "WARNING: BB_HASHSERVE_UPSTREAM is not valid, unable to connect hash equivalence server at 'typhoon.yocto.io:8687': timeout('timed out')" Just wanted to sanity check, is it just me? I have previously been able to use this hash serve. I've also tried setting BB_HASHSERVE = "typhoon.yocto.io:8687", and bitbake just hangs with "[Errno 110] | 20:59 |
| NJ97 | Connect call failed ('35.233.185.178', 8687)". I saw this issue on multiple machines. | 20:59 |
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| Soopaman | JPEW: suggest any examples or walkthroughs? | 21:51 |
| JPEW | I don't have a specific walkthrough, but if you can get to the point of building basic images, there is core-image-weston | 21:52 |
| JPEW | There might be some "getting started with yocto" videos on YouTube (mobile ATM, so I can't check easily) | 21:55 |
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