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| mcfrisk | With the BB_PRESSURE_MAX_[CPU,MEMORY,IO] patches now proposed to dunfell and kirkstone too, what values are good as limits? Could there be some values set by default too? I tried setting to 10 for all, which means AFAIK that if more than 10% of CPU, memory or IO is stalling during measurement time, then no new tasks are fired. In my test machine with 40 threads, 128 Gb RAM, I frequently ran out of RAM with | 06:42 |
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| mcfrisk | default parallel settings. | 06:42 |
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| RP | mcfrisk: we aren't sure about values. To be able to even experiment fairly with this on the autobuilder we need it functional over all our builds | 06:56 |
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| RP | mcfrisk: we may be able to recommend something in due course but we're definitely not there yet. The default proposed for the autobuilder to start with is 10000 | 06:59 |
| mcfrisk | RP: do the autobuilders run more than one build in parallel on a machine? | 07:00 |
| RP | mcfrisk: 3 at once | 07:01 |
| mcfrisk | ouch, with our memory use patterns that would be horror, random oom kills everywhere.. | 07:02 |
| RP | mcfrisk: we do limit zstd/xz memory/parallelism a bit | 07:05 |
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| mcfrisk | feels like CPU overloading is rarely a problem, just keep the threads queued, but everyone is in trouble if RAM runs out. Even IO saturation isn't a big deal as long as there is some RAM for file system buffers, e.g. sstate cache. | 07:07 |
| RP | mcfrisk: we run a lot of tests under qemu and regulating that load to avoid timeouts is what we're aiming for | 07:08 |
| mcfrisk | do you have problems with some specific resource, CPU, memory, IO or in general you see gaps in performance or throughput, or annoying random failures due to oom or hangs/deadlocks? | 07:16 |
| mcfrisk | when I view CPU, memory, IO and network usage of bitbake builds in pcp charts, I can see that CPU utilization is quite low, and lots of IO is done, and then those few spikes of memory usage which trigger oom killer. | 07:17 |
| mcfrisk | these on a single machine with a single bitbake build | 07:18 |
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| RP | mcfrisk: annoying random timeout problems from the VMs, probably from load spikes on the systems | 07:21 |
| Schlumpf | Good morning, | 07:23 |
| Schlumpf | is it possible to confiure a bridge with /etc/network/interfaces? I tried the examples from Debian wiki (https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Configuring_bridging_in_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces) without success. Creating bridges with brctl works fine. | 07:23 |
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| wkawka | Hi, how can I affect pkgconfig search path? | 07:41 |
| mcfrisk | RP: ouch, also VMs. We had very bad experiences with cloud things, like vmware. The IO stack simply stalled causing random failures in large set of machines. IMO it's a bad idea to run bitbake builds on virtual machines. | 07:42 |
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| landgraf | mcfrisk: VMs are used for running tests and some configuration stuff on target machines | 07:44 |
| ernstp | It was working very well for me with Azure VMs, Ubuntu 18.04 | 07:44 |
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| qschulz | JPEW: Yocto Chant #1 IIRC. Recipe data is local, configuration data is global (not sure about the wording of the second part of the sentence but that's the intent anyways :) ) | 08:04 |
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| rburton | wkawka: you might want to explain what you actually want to do | 09:52 |
| rburton | DvorkinDmitry: because that's a terrible idea in the use case of "generate an image once, deploy to 1000 machines". it's trivial to pre-generate keys, there's a recipe in oe-core for the selftests which does that | 09:54 |
| wkawka | I made a recipe for https://github.com/system76/ec using cargo bitbake, I repiared some thing but now pkgconf cannot find `hidapi-hidraw`. However, there is `hidapi-hidraw.pc.in` file and I set `PKG_CONFIG_PATH` variable like this: | 09:59 |
| wkawka | `PKG_CONFIG_PATH .= ":/build/tmp/work/.../system76-ectool/0.3.8.AUTOINC+a8213311b1-r0/cargo_home/bitbake/hidapi-1.3.4/etc/hidapi/pc/pkgconfig"` (I know it's horrible but I want to make it work) | 10:00 |
| rburton | a .pc.in file needs to be turned into a .pc file at some point, and installed into the sysroot | 10:00 |
| wkawka | Ok, so I need to add do_compile_prepend and there steps to install them | 10:01 |
| rburton | no, ec should be doing this itself | 10:02 |
| rburton | where is hidapi-hidraw coming from? | 10:02 |
| wkawka | the `hidapi-hidraw.pc.in` file is the only `hidapi-hidraw` file | 10:03 |
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| wkawka | And the pc file is not installed by default | 10:05 |
| destmaster84 | I'm unable to exclude mariadb package from my build with IMAGE_INSTALL:remove = " mariadb" on kirkstone ... any suggestion? | 10:06 |
| qschulz | destmaster84: remove the recipe from the layer and check what does not build anymore | 10:06 |
| qschulz | destmaster84: removing mariadb from IMAGE_INSTALL just removes it from the list of packages in IMAGE_INSTALL | 10:07 |
| qschulz | but not all (actually most packages aren't) are in IMAGE_INSTALL | 10:07 |
| qschulz | they are pulled by other packages as dependencies | 10:07 |
| qschulz | you might have to play with PACKAGECONFIG or remove other packages from the list | 10:08 |
| qschulz | it can be tedious to remove a package | 10:08 |
| RP | mcfrisk: this isn't the builds, it is the runtime tests | 10:12 |
| rburton | wkawka: so you're also building hidapi? | 10:19 |
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| wkawka | No, hidapi is a dependency in system76 ec | 10:29 |
| wkawka | It is an crate | 10:29 |
| wkawka | to be exact | 10:29 |
| wkawka | And while building crate hidapi it has an error https://pastebin.com/SL56z3di | 10:41 |
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| wkawka | Ok, now it works, I had to do a recipe for that hidapi and add it to DEPENDS for system76-ec | 11:17 |
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| RP | rburton: was there a trick to build a native tool in meson? | 11:28 |
| RP | ah, no, meson won't help. Its cmake for llvm itself :( | 11:29 |
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| rburton | RP: meson does natively nicely. cmake... actively makes it very hard | 11:57 |
| RP | rburton: right. I was hoping to generate a cross llvm-config which I can do but it them makes the target data host arch specific :( | 12:28 |
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| ptsneves | is qemux86-64's libdir /usr/lib? Should it not be /usr/lib64? | 13:25 |
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| Juanosorio94 | I have two recipes, A and B, recipe B requires header files from recipe A. I tried to place these header files somewhere during install(), but I just learned that variables like B and D change for each recipe... I dont necesarily need these header files ending up in my rootfs... how can I access them from recipe B? | 13:31 |
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| qschulz | ptsneves: IIRC, /usr/lib64 only exists if multilib is enabled? but that might be bad recollection | 13:33 |
| qschulz | Juanosorio94: install the header files into ${D}${includedir} in recipe A and have recipe B have DEPENDS += "A" | 13:35 |
| Juanosorio94 | I need to pass them using to cmake using a flag | 13:36 |
| qschulz | Juanosorio94: uh? | 13:36 |
| Juanosorio94 | like so EXTRA_OECMAKE="-DPKG_A_INCLUDE=/path/to/headers" | 13:37 |
| ptsneves | qschulz: :O wow i worked all this time in 64 bit platforms with libdir = /usr/lib64. If what you say is right...i have been living in a bubble. | 13:37 |
| qschulz | Juanosorio94: why? we already have the magic for cmake to include header files from other recipes | 13:37 |
| qschulz | so just rely on the cmake bbclass to do the right thing | 13:37 |
| ptsneves | Juanosorio94: not even required as headers should be in the sysroot and available with not modification | 13:37 |
| Juanosorio94 | my cmake expects me to give it a DPKG_A_INLCUDE and path to the headers | 13:40 |
| Juanosorio94 | its just the way the repo is set up, just tried that out and it didnt work :( | 13:40 |
| qschulz | ptsneves: don't have time to look into this, but I suspect this is related to BASE_LIB (set by machine tunes) which is then read in meta/conf/multilib.conf and put into baselib | 13:42 |
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| qschulz | Juanosorio94: make it point to ${STAGING_INCDIR} | 13:44 |
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| qschulz | but that is quite messed up, why not use -I (or whatever the equivalent for cmake is) instead of a specific variable? | 13:44 |
| Juanosorio94 | thanks ill trythat! | 13:45 |
| qschulz | ptsneves: BASELIB actually sorry | 13:45 |
| qschulz | no, BASE_LIB, can't read :p | 13:46 |
| ptsneves | qschulz: no worries. Interestingly bitbake-getvar does not show any setting coming from tune, and it actually should as i read the tune-core2.inc | 13:46 |
| Juanosorio94 | qschulz: which one though? during install in A or include in B or both? I assume both right? | 13:46 |
| qschulz | ptsneves: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-BASE_LIB | 13:47 |
| qschulz | Juanosorio94: you install the header into ${D}${includedir} in recipe A, in recipe B you have DEPENDS += "A" | 13:47 |
| qschulz | Juanosorio94: in recipe B, you also have EXTRA_OECMAKE += "-DPKG_A_INCLUDE=${STAGING_INCDIR}" | 13:48 |
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| ptsneves | qschulz: BASE_LIB is set to None https://pastebin.com/p0RyxTP8 | 13:50 |
| ptsneves | Will need to look into why | 13:50 |
| qschulz | ptsneves: documentation states it only applies to multilib confiuguration | 13:51 |
| ptsneves | ah | 13:51 |
| ptsneves | i see. Thanks! I will read it more carefully | 13:52 |
| qschulz | ptsneves: does not mean the documentation is correct though or is explicit enough :) | 13:53 |
| ptsneves | qschulz: actually it seems it is. I just was just too prejudiced on my knowledge. | 13:53 |
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| LetoThe2nd | JPEW: the yocto chant #1: "recipe data is local, configuration data is global" | 14:22 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: aaaah still got it :) | 14:23 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: of course. sorry been travelling all day. | 14:23 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: I meant *I* still got it (I answered JPEW this morning but wasn't sure it was this wording :) ) | 14:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: ah okay | 14:24 |
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| Guest63 | Hi | 15:03 |
| Guest63 | Is there any way to run command using '${@}' expression | 15:03 |
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| Guest63 | ${@os.system(command)} doesn't seem to work | 15:03 |
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| qschulz | Guest63: just create a python function you call from within the inline expression? Though I'm not sure what's the issue with this expression above | 15:04 |
| Guest63 | Thanks qschulz | 15:10 |
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| rburton | Guest63: if you're using ${@...} then you're in shell, so just run the command directly? | 15:38 |
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| qschulz | rburton: in shell? that's should be python? | 15:43 |
| rburton | well i guess if you're doing a variable assignment you're not strictly in shell land | 15:44 |
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| rburton | Guest63 should explain what they actually want to do | 15:44 |
| rburton | RP: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14902 is the stub perl bug. trying to reproduce now | 15:46 |
| kergoth | Hmm.. random idea, I wonder about creating an asdf (https://asdf-vm.com/) plugin for the buildtools tarball. | 15:47 |
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| qschulz | kergoth: we need two different versions of sphinx-build for the docs. I would hate to have to handle different buildtools tarballs just for that. So +1 from the people working with docs on the autobuilder I guess? :) | 15:53 |
| Guest63 | rburton I am trying to calculate the hash of rootfs | 15:56 |
| Guest63 | well i can do that using a python function | 15:56 |
| Guest63 | but i wanted to do it an single line like `rootfs_size="${@os.system("sha256sum ${ROOTFS_IMAGE_PATH}")}"` | 15:56 |
| rburton | Guest63: if you want a sha256sum file on disk then bitbake can do that for you | 15:56 |
| rburton | eg IMAGE_FSTYPES = "ext4 ext4.sha256sum" | 15:57 |
| RP | qschulz: I was going to propose using different buildtools for that as I don't see many other options! | 15:58 |
| Guest63 | thanks, I will try that | 15:58 |
| Guest63 | but I am curious If i can use "${@os.system(command)}" to run arbitrary commands | 15:58 |
| Guest63 | This would be very handy | 15:58 |
| kergoth | os.system() doesn't return anything. | 15:58 |
| kergoth | it sends stdout and stderr to the existing stdout and stderr, doesn't capture them, so not of any use to you | 15:59 |
| Guest63 | kergoth, i think that explains my build stucks when it executes ```${@os.system(command)}``` | 16:01 |
| Guest63 | Thanks | 16:01 |
| qschulz | RP: too many issues with the docs right now.. aaaaaaand I'm glad you raised this because this completely breaks my attempt at unifying release manuals... | 16:01 |
| qschulz | I hate this | 16:01 |
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| qschulz | at least I won't feel bad for not finding the time to push a PoC to the mL | 16:03 |
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| RP | qschulz: well, I'm open to other approaches | 16:51 |
| RP | qschulz: Its not like I'm finding time to resolve it either :( | 16:51 |
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| rburton | accidentally checked out the 'green' branch and wondered why nothing built | 17:02 |
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| Guest9046 | Hi | 18:07 |
| Guest9046 | I am porting xen on raspberry pi 4 | 18:08 |
| Guest9046 | Could port & see Dom0 | 18:08 |
| Guest9046 | Trying to create a guest domain, copied guest.cfg, Image & xen-guest-image-minimal .ext3 to /home/root | 18:09 |
| Guest9046 | while mounting ext3 filesystem facing issue | 18:10 |
| Guest9046 | Logs: | 18:10 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# losetup /dev/loop0 xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3 | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | losetup: xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3: No such file or directory | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# ls -l | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24652288 Mar 9 12:36 Image | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 247 Mar 9 12:37 guest1.cfg | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 868220928 Mar 9 12:39 xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3 | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# chmod 0777 xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3 | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# ls -l | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24652288 Mar 9 12:36 Image | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 247 Mar 9 12:37 guest1.cfg | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 868220928 Mar 9 12:39 xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3 | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# losetup /dev/loop0 xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3 | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | losetup: xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3: No such file or directory | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# losetup /dev/loop0 /home/root/xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3 | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | losetup: /home/root/xen-guest-image-minimal-raspberrypi4-64.ext3: No such file or directory | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | root@raspberrypi4-64:~# | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | guest image file is there but showing no file or directory | 18:11 |
| Guest9046 | Any suggestion on this? | 18:13 |
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| ptsneves | seems there are no docs for license-obsolete nor license-exists | 20:57 |
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| RobertBerger | @ptsneves: obsolete-license: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/classes-global/insane.bbclass#n920 | 21:19 |
| RobertBerger | @ptsneves: license-exists: https://pastebin.com/UNVBdxGA | 21:27 |
| RobertBerger | @ptsneves: both are in insane.bbclass (but not in all Yocto/OE versions) | 21:28 |
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| RP | qschulz: I'm worrying a bit about what you said. You mean my approach would conflict with the direction you were thinking we should go? | 22:27 |
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