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| PhoenixMage | What does meta-poky/conf/distro/include/gcsections do? Its included in poky-tiny.conf and its what breaks the go compilation stuff for cni and containerd | 02:40 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 06:38 |
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| RP | PhoenixMage: just disable it for those recipes | 07:03 |
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| lukma | Maybe a strange question - Is there a way to use COMPATIBLE_MACHINE to avoid processing yocto recipe with bbappend file? | 07:21 |
| lukma | For example - I do use the bbappend and put there COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "(?!FOO)" | 07:22 |
| lukma | In that way I could "disable" recipe for one special machine | 07:22 |
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| lukma | (And yes - I can write COMPATIBLE_MACHINE="(FOO)" and then use do_compile[noexec]=1 for specific tasks) | 07:22 |
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| lukma | But the approach with negation in COMPATIBLE_MACHINE seems simpler ... | 07:23 |
| lukma | (EXCLUDE_PACKAGE is applied too late IMHO, when the package is build anyway) | 07:23 |
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| qschulz | lukma: COMPATIBLE_MACHINE:machine = "" probably would work? | 07:47 |
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| dacav | Hi. So I marked my calendar on today, as there's this event at the Linux Plumbers Conference: https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1196/ . Is it possible to get a recording of it? | 07:57 |
| mcfrisk | lukma: one possibility is to have DISTRO or MACHINE specific paths in layer, e.g. recipes-debian which is only enabled when DISTRO is "debian", similar for MACHINE | 07:58 |
| mcfrisk | use layer.conf to set the paths this way | 07:58 |
| mcfrisk | for plain variables, it's possible to use machine specific append/prepends | 07:59 |
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| lukma | qschulz: It looks like the approach with COMPATIBLE_MACHINE:foo = "" looks like the good approach | 08:04 |
| lukma | (I was not expecting that COMPATIBLE_MACHINE is overridable) | 08:04 |
| eirikb[m] | I've been using my docker toolchain image for a while now and it works great. It would work even better if I didn't have to source the environment setup file, but I haven't found any way around this. An option to install a toolchain without the setup environment file would be great | 08:05 |
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| PhoenixMage | RP: Not sure how I would do that? | 08:21 |
| hmw[m] | Hi im trying to set SDKPATH in the conf file of my target but the variable is getting over written by a other .conf file | 08:24 |
| hmw[m] | trying to change it sins ti try's to set it to a SDKPATH = "${@"/tmp/"+"x"*96+"/"+"y"*96}" that brakes | 08:25 |
| hmw[m] | nativesdk-perl-misc: /work/x86_64-nativesdk-arago-linux/nativesdk-perl/5.30.1-r0/packages-split/nativesdk-perl-misc/tmp/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy/sysroots/x86_64-arago-linux/usr/bin/h2xs.perl maximum shebang size exceeded, the maximum size is 128. | 08:25 |
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| qschulz | eirikb[m]: what's bothering you with the setup environment file? | 09:01 |
| RP | PhoenixMage: looking at the file there are plenty of examples of recipes where this has been done? | 09:02 |
| RP | e.g. CFLAGS_SECTION_REMOVAL:pn-grub = "" would remove it for grub? | 09:02 |
| eirikb[m] | qschulz: Having to source it from an IDE inside of docker can be a bit of a hassle. CLion supports it, and it kind of works with some manual path setting, but just not having it would be the best | 09:02 |
| RP | eirikb[m]: how would you work out the toolchain config without it? | 09:03 |
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| PhoenixMage | RP: Thanks | 09:20 |
| ptsneves | eirikb[m]: The way i work with clion is that i have meson or cmake generate the command_line.json or something similarly called and have clion injest it | 09:22 |
| ptsneves | it works perfectly and you get perfect integration with the cross toolchain. On the other hand if you have path mismatches between your IDE docker and yocto than you need to solve that | 09:23 |
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| eirikb[m] | <RP> "eirikb: how would you work out..." <- I hoped to install it globally or something. Run `cmake` and it resolves to correct cmake by default | 09:48 |
| eirikb[m] | <ptsneves> "eirikb: The way i work with..." <- You mean like a preset? I don't have any issues at the moment, it works quite well, just that I have to manually set the paths when setting up the toolchain in CLion settings the first time | 09:50 |
| ptsneves | like detailed here https://www.jetbrains.com/help/clion/compilation-database.html#compdb_generate | 09:51 |
| ptsneves | To use this flow i do not even use the sdk. I get this from the devtool ${B} dir | 09:54 |
| ptsneves | makes it very straightforward to setup. If i am feeling particularly lazy and adventurous i do it from the ${B} of the recipe workdir itself | 09:54 |
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| eirikb[m] | You don't use the SDK? How is that possible? | 09:55 |
| eirikb[m] | What I use is this: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/clion/clion-toolchains-in-docker.html#create-docker-toolchain with the "Add environment" pointing to the setup environment file + I have to manually set the path to cmake, for some reason | 09:56 |
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| NicoMller[m] | Hello All, I have a strange problem with the archiver and I am asking for your help here. The package "db" (Berkley Database) is collected by the archiver but it was not added by me to the image and I can not find any dependency that would DEPEND on that package explicitly and I can also not find any artifacts in the resulting image rootfs. My image is based on core-image-minimal. Does anybody know why this package is built for the target? | 13:06 |
| qschulz | NicoMller[m]: run bitbake -g <your-image> and look into the dot files with your favorite text editor to find the dependency chain | 13:08 |
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| NicoMller[m] | Okay that is exactly what I did. The problem is that in this dependency file did not give me a clear picture of the dependency since the top level dependency looks like this: "<my-image> - db.do_build" | 13:13 |
| NicoMller[m] | Am i reading the file wrong? | 13:14 |
| qschulz | NicoMller[m]: is it the only dependency that exists? | 13:22 |
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| LukasW | Hello all. Iam just updating my yocto from dunfell to kirkstone. The image build itself succeeded, but the SDK build fails on "nativesdk-gnutls". The error is | 13:23 |
| LukasW | Ive tried that on tagged Version kirkstone-4.0.3 as well as current head of kirstone branch. | 13:23 |
| LukasW | Any suggestions? | 13:23 |
| mckoan | LukasW: provide details: machine and pastebin the error log | 13:24 |
| LukasW | https://pastebin.com/e9wYAv8d | 13:24 |
| NicoMller[m] | qschulz: There are many a packages like (grep, iproute2, openssl) that have dependencies on db.do_deploy_archives and db.do_package_write_ipk. In the form: readline.do_build -> db.do_deploy_archives. But none of these applications explicitly list the package "db" as dependency. Could it be that the build system requires the package for some reason? | 13:27 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 13:35 |
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| mckoan | hey LetoThe2nd jester ! | 13:45 |
| mckoan | the chocolat launcher | 13:45 |
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| Wlad | hello | 13:57 |
| Wlad | do someone know about update-able linux packages in made yocto image? | 13:58 |
| qschulz | Wlad: what exactly are you after? | 14:00 |
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| Wlad | I have an yocto image with static packages which are not updatable | 14:01 |
| Wlad | over apt update/upgrade | 14:02 |
| Wlad | eg | 14:02 |
| qschulz | Wlad: you would need to create your own package feed for apt based on the yocto image you're using | 14:04 |
| qschulz | if you don't own the sources/layers of the yocto image you're running, you won't be able to update the packages | 14:04 |
| Wlad | so the packages like busybox and dropbear are not updatable? | 14:07 |
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| qschulz | no | 14:07 |
| qschulz | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev-manual/common-tasks.html#using-runtime-package-management | 14:07 |
| qschulz | Wlad: if you weren't provided with a package feed for your image, it will not be possible without rebuilding the image yourself and creating it | 14:08 |
| qschulz | apt is just a package manager, it needs to be fed a package repository or whatever the proper name is | 14:09 |
| qschulz | debian has one, ubuntu has one, your yocto image needs one too | 14:09 |
| qschulz | you cannot use debian's or ubuntu's or another yocto image's because they are using different versions of libraries, differently compiled (different flags, compilers, etc...) | 14:10 |
| Wlad | so I need a own one so far so clear. how difficult is it to do? | 14:11 |
| Wlad | or is it unpossible for case dropbear and busybox? | 14:13 |
| qschulz | Wlad: you need to ask your vendor for a package feed or create it yourself | 14:13 |
| qschulz | to create it, you'll need to rebuild the image yourself | 14:13 |
| Wlad | okay | 14:14 |
| qschulz | if your vendor gives you the yocto layers they used to create the image, it might not be too difficult | 14:14 |
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| qschulz | if they don't, it's starting to be a bit difficult | 14:14 |
| qschulz | it wouldn't be a disaster if it's possible for you to flash only the rootfs and not the kernel or bootloader | 14:14 |
| qschulz | if it's not possible, then you need the sources of the kernel and bootloader so you can recompile them too | 14:15 |
| qschulz | and considering that vendors are usually not too keen to provide their kernel and bootloader sources, it might be *really* difficult to do it | 14:16 |
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| Wlad | good. thanks for helping in these things | 14:18 |
| rhulme | Hi, I have a question about getting the results from unit tests. https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/lib/oeqa/utils/decorators.py?h=master#n25 looks for the first frame that belongs to 'unittest.case'. After that the code tries to get the 'result' local variable. | 14:19 |
| rhulme | Since Python 3.8, unittest.case has an additional '_callTearDown' method so the first 'unittest.case' frame is not the right one and the yocto code raises an exception because there is no 'result' variable. | 14:20 |
| rhulme | https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/4dd3e3f9bbd320f0dd556688e04db0a6b55a7b52 | 14:20 |
| rhulme | It seems strange to me that no-one has come across this before but I haven't been able to find anything. So what am I missing? | 14:20 |
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| rhulme | Changing that line to something like 'while (upperf.f_globals['__name__'] != 'unittest.case') or ('result' not in upperf_flocals):' seems to fix it. | 14:29 |
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| rhulme | or "while not ((upperf.f_globals['__name__'] == 'unittest.case') and ('result' in upperf.f_locals)):" depending on your preference for boolean logic. | 14:30 |
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| matman01 | Having some issue with dunfell kernel configure.. I run bitbake -c kernel_configme -f and bitbake -c menuconfig however the configuration that shows up is missing some items that are in my "SRC_URI += defconfig". If I enable them in menuconfig.. they do show up in the .config and do get built.. but running menuconfig again and they are not | 15:00 |
| matman01 | there.. Any ideas? | 15:00 |
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| qschulz | matman01: I bet there exists multiple defconfigs and yours is not taken | 15:01 |
| qschulz | matman01: if that is the case, then it is likely you need to change the path you put your defconfig in | 15:02 |
| qschulz | I assume you're adding this defconfig via a bbappend? | 15:02 |
| matman01 | Good question let me check.. devtool likes to put thins in a different spot and generates a defconfig I think. | 15:02 |
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| matman01 | Yes the defconfig is in a bbappend | 15:04 |
| qschulz | matman01: https://summit.yoctoproject.org/media/yocto-project-summit-2022-05/submissions/SCYYWD/resources/Demystifying_the_OVERRIDES_mec_2lZOP3n.pdf see slides 83+ | 15:05 |
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| NicoMller[m] | qschulz: Do you have any idea why so many applications are dependent on db.do_package_write_ipk? I have the gut feeling that maybe the sstate.bbclass is responsible for this. | 15:15 |
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| qschulz | NicoMller[m]: I really do not, does removing the archiver class actually remov ethis dependency? | 15:31 |
| qschulz | if it does, at least you know where to look | 15:31 |
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| kergoth | Any time recrdeptask is used (depend on this other taks recursively down all build and runtime dpeendencies), th egraph will show a direct dep on everything, even though it's actually indirect via following the build na druntime deps. specifically do_build an dthe packaging functions can be misleading | 16:10 |
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| wkawka | Hi | 16:39 |
| wkawka | How can I add `uuid-dev` package which is required by make in one of my recipes? | 16:40 |
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| qschulz | wkawka: DEPENDS += "uuid" | 16:41 |
| qschulz | mmmm | 16:42 |
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| wkawka | ah, so I need to obtain recipe for this first, thought it may be kinda built-in | 16:43 |
| qschulz | wkawka: I assume you might need libuuid? | 16:43 |
| qschulz | the only thing I could find with grep is util-linux-libuuid but not sure this is what's needed | 16:44 |
| wkawka | on ubuntu it is `uuid-dev`, not libuuid, I don't know if they are simillar | 16:45 |
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| kergoth | How are oe selftests flagged as being long or slow or for release test rather than unit test or the like? | 17:03 |
| kergoth | I'm assuming such a mechanism must exist | 17:03 |
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| matman01 | qschulz: I figured out the defconfig issue.. even though I was using bitbake and not devtool it was pulling in the defconfig from my devtool version of the defconfig. Not sure that is what is expected | 17:54 |
| vmeson | kergoth: # ptests which take less than ~30s each in meta/conf/distro/include/ptest-packagelists.inc | 17:54 |
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| vmeson | kergoth: but we could/should be making a histogram of the ptest time per package and base our cut-off on data! ;-) | 18:07 |
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| kergoth | Agreed, but not talking about just ptests, but also build tests which take extensive amounts of time that wouldn't be appropriate for, say, CI on PR submission but more for release cycle | 18:23 |
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| RP | kergoth: we put the ptests into two piles and there is a comment in the inc about what we consider long or short. We don't split the selftests, just run them in parallel | 22:58 |
| RP | kergoth: some tests do take an age and a lot depends on what sstate has in it | 22:59 |
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