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| mckoan | good morning | 07:00 |
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| jclsn | Morning | 07:53 |
| jclsn | How to make sure files get rebuilt if the deploy folder is gone? | 07:53 |
| jclsn | We have an issue that when we delete u-boot.imx from the deploy folder, it doesn't get automatically rebuilt if the sstate-cache is still present | 07:54 |
| kanavin | jclsn, you are not supposed to write directly to deploy. It needs to be placed to sstate, and unpacked to deploy from there. | 07:55 |
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| jclsn | kanavin: Hmm okay have to check my recipes | 07:59 |
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| kanavin | jclsn, there are examples in meta/ how to do this properly, I don't have a specific lik handy. look for DEPLOYDIR. | 07:59 |
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| jclsn | kanavin: do_deploy[nostamp] did the trick | 08:08 |
| jclsn | Dirty workaround, but well | 08:08 |
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| qschulz | jclsn: don't remove files from the deploy directory? | 08:11 |
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| qschulz | jclsn: removing the whole tmp directory is safe but removing some files by hand isn't | 08:11 |
| jclsn | qschulz: The error also occurs when the whole tmp is deleted | 08:12 |
| jclsn | We encountered this in our pipeline | 08:12 |
| jclsn | forcing u-boot do be deployed every time fixes it | 08:12 |
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| qschulz | jclsn: well, probably your deploy task is doing something it shouldn't | 08:14 |
| qschulz | like kanavin said | 08:14 |
| jclsn | qschulz: It is just copying u-boot.imx from the workdir to the deploy dir | 08:14 |
| qschulz | jclsn: which deploy dir | 08:15 |
| jclsn | It is a recipe for copying our pre-built bootloader from the Android toolchain. It will be deprecated soon anyway | 08:15 |
| jclsn | tmp/deploy/images/machine | 08:15 |
| qschulz | we have DEPLOY_DIR, DEPLOYDIR, DEPLOYDIRIMAGE | 08:16 |
| qschulz | jclsn: no, that's the final deploy directory but it is not where recipes are supposed to install, hence the question | 08:16 |
| qschulz | what is the path you put in your deploydir | 08:16 |
| qschulz | deploy task* | 08:16 |
| jclsn | qschulz: install -D -m 644 ${S}/u-boot.imx ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE}/u-boot.imx | 08:17 |
| jclsn | where DEPLOY_DIR_IAMGE is tmp/deploy/images/machine-name | 08:17 |
| qschulz | jclsn: yeah that's not correct | 08:18 |
| qschulz | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/classes.html#deploy-bbclass | 08:18 |
| qschulz | should be DEPLOYDIR | 08:18 |
| jclsn | qschulz: Will try | 08:18 |
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| jclsn | qschulz: Yes, that works | 08:31 |
| jclsn | Can you explain why? | 08:31 |
| jclsn | Guess I need to read the section in the variables list | 08:32 |
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| qschulz | jclsn: recipes are writting in their own directory in temporary directories. Those directories are then copied to the final directories | 08:37 |
| kanavin | jclsn, boo for nostamp | 08:37 |
| kanavin | I do not approve :) | 08:38 |
| qschulz | jclsn: it is essential for sstate cache that you use the directory that are watched by the sstate cache mechanism | 08:38 |
| qschulz | jclsn: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes-recipe/deploy.bbclass | 08:38 |
| qschulz | you can see the input dir for the sstate-cache is listed in sstate-inputdirs: DEPLOYDIR | 08:39 |
| qschulz | only this is watched, then the outputdirs is where the sstate-cache will install the files | 08:39 |
| jclsn | qschulz: Thanks, makes sense | 08:46 |
| jclsn | kanavin: We are past that already, but thanks :) | 08:46 |
| LetoThe2nd | whos maintaining the layerindex these days? or can comment on how submitted layers are being parsed? | 08:50 |
| kanavin | LetoThe2nd, https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/MAINTAINERS.md?h=master-next | 08:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | kanavin: thats what i guessed/feared. | 08:52 |
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| JaMa | anyone familiar with https://github.com/rust-embedded/meta-rust-bin ? | 09:26 |
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| rburton | JaMa: only in the sense that it would be interesting to look at when adding rust-bin recipes to oe-core, but i'd want rust-bin recipes in core to be effectively identical to the source built ones | 09:40 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I've noticed it because someone else added it to our build (probably because of need of newer rust than what's in kirkstone) and somehow it doesn't seem to respect crates in SRC_URI (or at least is affected by https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/9390) so it tries to access network in do_compile | 09:58 |
| rburton | yeah, i suspected it was sub-optimal | 09:59 |
| * JaMa testing kanavin's cargo-update-recipe-crates as well | 10:00 | |
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| rburton | ha speak of the devil ;) | 10:00 |
| rburton | JaMa: a review of that would be appreciated | 10:00 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I plan to, but for now trying to figure out if the issues are in bbclass limitations or just weirdness of solana build infra | 10:04 |
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| JaMa | kanavin: ^ that was about cargo-update-recipe-crates.bbclass, the only review comment for now is extra space before \n in generated .inc file and preferrably using 4 spaces for indentation instead of 8 | 10:05 |
| JaMa | once I know more I'll reply to list | 10:05 |
| kanavin | JaMa, I couldn't figure out what the right amount of backslashes should be to avoid the extra space | 10:06 |
| kanavin | \ \\ \\\ \\\\ \\\\\ did not work, then I gave up | 10:06 |
| JaMa | I see, I've just noticed git am complaining about trailing spaces | 10:07 |
| kanavin | JaMa, I think I also missed what you said, brief internet outage here | 10:07 |
| JaMa | the weird solana case is that we have a recipe where S points to https://github.com/solana-labs/solana-program-library/tree/master/token/cli, but the Cargo.lock files are in git root and other subdirectories, so the bbclass doesn't find them (but I need to figure out if cargo itself would find them - I have very little experience with rust/cargo) | 10:08 |
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| JaMa | 10:58 < JaMa> rburton: I've noticed it because someone else added it to our build (probably because of need of newer rust than what's in kirkstone) and somehow it doesn't seem to respect crates in SRC_URI (or at least is affected by https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/9390) so it tries to access network in do_compile | 10:08 |
| JaMa | 10:59 < rburton> yeah, i suspected it was sub-optimal | 10:09 |
| JaMa | 11:00 * JaMa testing kanavin's cargo-update-recipe-crates as well | 10:09 |
| kanavin | JaMa, we probably need ability to point to a non-standard location for Cargo.lock. I would not want to traverse all of $WORKDIR looking for it | 10:09 |
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| JaMa | in cargo.bbclass I've seen CARGO_SRC_DIR ??= "" for Cargo.toml, maybe something similar for Cargo.lock as they might not be in the same directory (at least in this solana case) | 10:11 |
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| kanavin | yeah, something like that | 10:24 |
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| JaMa | kanavin: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/commit/?h=jansa/master&id=73236b0fbcdb72c817666238f85dfeb9819cd2e2 seems to generate reasonable .inc, but still need to test it properly | 10:43 |
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| kanavin | JaMa, would prefer CARGO_LOCK_SRC_DIR ??= "${S}" | 10:44 |
| kanavin | otherwise looks good | 10:46 |
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| xcm | hello. i've rebuilt my image and i'm trying to use bmap as before, but i get "bmaptool: ERROR: cannot set image size to 92547102 bytes, it is known to be 439562240 bytes (419.2 MiB)". i've tried `bitbake -c clean my-image` but it didn't help | 13:13 |
| qschulz | xcm: is your image creating a bmap file or are you attempting to use a bmap file from an older image? | 13:17 |
| xcm | qschulz: i'm using the generated symlinks (.wic.bmap and .wic.bz2) | 13:18 |
| qschulz | xcm: are the files pointed at by the symlinks up-to-date? | 13:20 |
| qschulz | (I'm trying to check if you are not missing an IMAGEFSTYPES) | 13:20 |
| xcm | apologies, my bad. bmap is for some reason not playing nicely with zsh's proc. substitution. i'm using that to flash files built on a remote server | 13:21 |
| xcm | but if i scp first, then it works | 13:21 |
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| tlwoerner | is there a way to get the HOST_PREFIX of the target in a -native build? | 13:44 |
| rburton | no | 13:45 |
| rburton | on purpose | 13:45 |
| qschulz | tlwoerner: this would make the native build target specific which is probably not what you want | 13:45 |
| rburton | native is target agnostic | 13:45 |
| tlwoerner | yea... i know it sounds crazy | 13:45 |
| tlwoerner | there's a native tool called "ldr" that is needed as part of the final steps of building u-boot for a specific SoC | 13:46 |
| qschulz | tlwoerner: but that would be done in the u-boot recipe? | 13:47 |
| tlwoerner | but in the u-boot Makefile the tool is invoked as $(CROSS_COMPILE)ldr | 13:47 |
| qschulz | where you'd depend on ldr-native? | 13:47 |
| qschulz | tlwoerner: you could use flags or environment variables to pass the info to ldr at runtime? | 13:48 |
| tlwoerner | so in the U-Boot Makefile it needs to call the tool as arm-oe-linux-gnueabi-ldr or arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ldr ... etc depending on your setup | 13:49 |
| tlwoerner | if it were a non-native recipe i could simply install the tool as ${D}${bindir}${HOST_PREFIX}ldr, but that doesn't work | 13:50 |
| qschulz | tlwoerner: gcc does that, so maybe look into it | 13:52 |
| tlwoerner | qschulz: yes, the u-boot recipe DEPENDS on the ldr-native recipe, that plumbing is fine, it's that i have to rename the final binary in a target-specific way | 13:52 |
| tlwoerner | qschulz: oh true, thank | 13:53 |
| tlwoerner | s | 13:53 |
| qschulz | but if ldr is capable of doing multiple architectures without recompilation, then a patch for the Makefile to use ldr without the prefix and passing some variable storing the target architecture to it would be probably smarter? | 13:53 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: two solutions. 1) if ldr is actually target agnostic, install as ldr and use a variable to set eg LDR=ldr. 2) build ldr as a cross, not a target, recipe. | 13:54 |
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| tlwoerner | qschulz: rburton: thanks, i think whoever wrote the ldr tool was confused about what the $(CROSS_COMPILE) is for (versus --build and --host configure arguments) | 14:06 |
| tlwoerner | i don't think that it works the way, say, gcc does (run on a machine and generate code for various other machines) | 14:07 |
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| mischief | is there a way to disable mirrors (eg the yocto source mirror) for only some recipes? | 14:28 |
| mischief | i just realized we've been leaking SRC_URIs :| | 14:29 |
| rburton | sounds like you want to unset PREMIRRORS. note that recent releases don't use PREMIRRORS for anything but gcc/binutils out of the box. | 14:29 |
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| mischief | rburton: does PREMIRRORS cause a fetch of git archive tarballs for git SRC_URIs? | 14:31 |
| rburton | yes | 14:31 |
| rburton | PREMIRRORS then SRC_URI then MIRRORS | 14:31 |
| tlwoerner | adding EXTRA_OEMAKE += "LDR=ldr" did the trick | 14:31 |
| rburton | see poky 5fe3689f4f177eb918e1d8e1f5f1f3c5376aa073 and 61d38cd3a29036309514c0e5da0aab60e938d185 for recent changes | 14:31 |
| mischief | in this case, SRC_URI was failing, so maybe it fell back to mirrors after that? | 14:32 |
| rburton | yes | 14:32 |
| tlwoerner | in theory the proper fix would be to remove the $(CROSS_COMPILE) from u-boot's Makefile | 14:32 |
| tlwoerner | thanks again qschulz and rburton | 14:32 |
| rburton | mischief: you should be able to set MIRRORS="" in the recipe if you want to avoid hitting the mirrors | 14:32 |
| mischief | some genius in our work make a git branch named e.g. `foo`, went on to delete it, then made `foo/bar` | 14:32 |
| mischief | and git did not like that | 14:33 |
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| vvn | Would you rather support various customers configurations (e.g. some using sound or not, this or that software stack, ...) via a single company distro and multiple customer images, or multiple customer distros? | 15:06 |
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| kayterina[m] | hello. If I append SRC_URI:append:A for a patch to apply only on machine A, do I also append a task for the patch to apply? | 15:28 |
| rburton | no | 15:29 |
| vvn | no | 15:29 |
| LetoThe2nd | noooooooooo | 15:29 |
| kayterina[m] | ok...so I must have a syntax error.... | 15:30 |
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| qschulz | vvn: you're going to be limited at one point with images anyway, so I'd go with distros | 15:34 |
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| vvn | qschulz: yeah that's where I'm struggling again, a distro per "field" seems very flexible but a PITA to maintain, especially since it encourages one to tweak features and thus impact packages configuration (and make the build more complex to manage) | 15:38 |
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| rburton | kayterina[m]: don't forget that append doesn't add whitespace so you'll want to :append = " file://...." | 15:52 |
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| JaMa | vvn: that really depends on how different the configurations are and also how many of these configurations you need to maintain @LGE we have 4-5 DISTROs and 30+ different images and it's pain to maintain, because everybody thinks their configuration is "special" and needs special handling, so they don't even agree on the same base version of e.g. gstreamer | 16:41 |
| JaMa | and instead of nice consolidated platform usable by many you end with random mix of these special needs glued together with a lot of glue to keep it buildable most of the time | 16:44 |
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| rburton | khem: do you plan on making a langdale branch for meta-clang shortly, or only when needed? | 16:47 |
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| vvn | JaMa: my point exactly, thanks for your feedback. My situation kinda looks like yours. Multiple distros seems intuitive to e.g. remove alsa pulseaudio for fields not using sounds, but at the same time you can't (especially developers) use and share the same built binaries. | 17:07 |
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| jonmason | tlwoerner: could you see "notes" if I add them to my proposal? I think my proposal could be 15 mins, or 30 if I stretch it, thus the notes | 18:43 |
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| tlwoerner | jonmason: i'm not organizing this YPS for "reasons" (that i'm now happy to share, but which are too long to share over irc) | 19:22 |
| jonmason | tlwoerner: sorry, I just assumed | 19:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | jonmason: you can shoot over to me | 19:36 |
| jonmason | LetoThe2nd: so, can you see "notes" of the CFP entry? | 19:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | jonmason: yup | 19:38 |
| jonmason | cool, just trying to provide options | 19:39 |
| jonmason | submitting shortly | 19:39 |
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| LetoThe2nd | jonmason: cool, just let me know how I can help | 19:40 |
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| jonmason | LetoThe2nd: is there a way to do CFP proposals for someone else? I wanted to sign up rburton for a few things | 20:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | jonmason: not directly i think, but i think its fair game to do a /s/jonmason/rburton/g on all proposals I gte ;-) | 20:20 |
| jonmason | That woi | 20:23 |
| jonmason | Err .. that works | 20:23 |
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| * LetoThe2nd is out then, gn | 20:27 | |
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| khem | rburton: perhaps wait till after release | 22:09 |
| khem | and we have some invasive changes | 22:09 |
| khem | so far clang 15.x is quiet and some smaller minor version bumps are expected which might be good for both master and langdale | 22:10 |
| khem | once 16x starts nearing it might be one reason to branch | 22:10 |
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