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| mckoan | good morning | 07:51 |
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| kanavin | JaMa, your patch is fine with me. The reason it wasn't defined is that I don't want to define things that aren't proven necessary :-) in my testing and on the AB it was not necessary. | 07:53 |
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| JaMa | ok | 07:57 |
| lamm1 | ls | 07:58 |
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| lamm1 | wrong terminal hehehe | 07:58 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 08:07 |
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| LetoThe2nd | anybody happen to know why python3 and nodejs by now depend on bash? IIRC that wasn't the case some time ago. | 08:29 |
| JaMa | let me grep it for you: | 08:30 |
| JaMa | meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3_3.11.1.bb:RDEPENDS:${PN}-tests:append:class-target = " ${MLPREFIX}bash" | 08:30 |
| JaMa | meta/recipes-devtools/python/python3_3.11.1.bb:RDEPENDS:${PN}-tests:append:class-nativesdk = " ${MLPREFIX}bash" | 08:30 |
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| LetoThe2nd | JaMa: yeah I found that too, but I'm not talking about the -tests package | 08:31 |
| JaMa | how the hell I'm supposed to guess what you're talking about? "depend on bash" sounds like build time dependency | 08:32 |
| LetoThe2nd | JaMa: ok, apologies. my mindset is "unless explicitly stated otherwise, refers to runtime". | 08:33 |
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| LetoThe2nd | so, try to improve: why does installing python3 or nodejs cause bash to also be installed? this did not use to be the case some time ago, and I cannot easily spot the reason. | 08:34 |
| JaMa | LetoThe2nd: then it's just not true in my builds, python3 is empty package and nodejs doesn't depend on bash (only nodejs-npm does) | 08:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | JaMa: hmm interesting. which release? | 08:35 |
| JaMa | master from Sunday | 08:35 |
| LetoThe2nd | JaMa: distro? | 08:35 |
| JaMa | the same in langdale and kirkstone | 08:35 |
| JaMa | nodistro, LuneOS, webOS.. | 08:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | JaMa: okay thanks. then needs more digging obviously :( | 08:36 |
| JaMa | depends.dot is your friend | 08:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | i know, but oe-depends-dot also just confirmed the chain without naming the reason. | 08:37 |
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| mcfrisk | RDEPENDS only? one of them including a #!/bin/bash script somewhere | 08:42 |
| mcfrisk | no yocto in https://lwn.net/Articles/912774/ !? | 08:46 |
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| RP | mcfrisk: I don't know of anyone invited | 10:00 |
| RP | mcfrisk: sounds very systemd centric | 10:00 |
| kanavin | RP: if you're seeing gdk-pixbuf fails, I'm looking into that | 10:08 |
| kanavin | RP: one of the build hosts is using ivy bridge, and after moving to v3 that revealed an erroneous use of target .so with native executable in that recipe --> illegal instruction crash | 10:15 |
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| RP | kanavin: I hadn't got there yet but handy to know, thanks! :) | 10:24 |
| RP | abelloni: ^^^ | 10:25 |
| RP | kanavin: I'm a bit worried we have another bitbake lockup :( | 10:25 |
| kanavin | RP: if that leads to something I did, I can try to help | 10:30 |
| RP | kanavin: it is almost certainly my threading changes | 10:34 |
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| kanavin | RP, abelloni: I'll also check what happens in qemu on that host. It'll probably crash as well, and so needs to be excluded from kvm workers. | 10:43 |
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| qschulz | i'm trying to get a recipe-depends.dot or whatever I can get for finding out which package brings in a package I don't want | 10:59 |
| qschulz | bitbake -g does not seem to be doing the trick | 10:59 |
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| qschulz | mmmm the file does not exist since 3.0, so we should remove this from the help section of some tools :) | 11:03 |
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| kanavin | RP: where does the AB get the list of its workers from? I'm looking at config.py, and it doesn't seem to match reality, e.g. fedora36 is not there. | 11:20 |
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| RP | kanavin: the config on the controller is slightly out of sync | 11:35 |
| RP | kanavin: mostly for passwords and so on | 11:36 |
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| rfried | Hello. | 11:48 |
| rfried | Is there a good way to prevent update-rc.d from running in bbappend ? | 11:48 |
| rfried | I have some packages I want to install, but I don't want them starting automatically. | 11:48 |
| rfried | But I can't find a proper way of disabling it via bbappend. | 11:48 |
| rfried | Looks like the updaterc.d is launched as part of the inherit of update-rc.d | 11:48 |
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| RP | rfried: do you want to disable update-rc.d for all packages or just one package in particular ? | 11:52 |
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| rfried | RP: just one package in particular | 11:54 |
| RP | rfried: you could set INITSCRIPT_PACKAGES explicitly? | 11:58 |
| rfried | it fails because then it runs update-rc.d -r /work/ramon/bsp/bsp/build/tmp/work/aspen-poky-linux/core-image-minimal/1.0-r0/rootfs | 11:59 |
| rfried | Basically it removed the two arguments and updare-rc.d fails. | 12:00 |
| rfried | basename and default is missing, that's why it fails. | 12:01 |
| rfried | RP: ^ | 12:01 |
| RP | rfried: I don't really understand what you've done or how it would result in that :/ | 12:06 |
| rfried | RP: the package I'm working on is ntp | 12:06 |
| rfried | I created ntp_%.bbappend with the following content: | 12:07 |
| rfried | # Override initscripts to disable autoloading | 12:07 |
| rfried | INITSCRIPT_PACKAGES = "" | 12:07 |
| rfried | INITSCRIPT_NAME = "" | 12:07 |
| rfried | INITSCRIPT_PARAMS = "" | 12:07 |
| rfried | That's it./ | 12:07 |
| rburton | just set INITSCRIPT_PARAMS=disable | 12:09 |
| rburton | default is "defaults" which is enabling | 12:09 |
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| rfried | rburton: works. | 12:24 |
| rfried | thanks RB rburton | 12:24 |
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| elaye | Hi, I'm having trouble building a recipe for a Rust private crate. I generated the recipe with `cargo-bitbake`. Bitbake successfully fetches the private repo and it's private dependencies via SSH however when bitbake invokes `cargo build`, cargo is unable to fetch the private repos anymore. I adapted my recipe based on this similar issue for Go | 13:38 |
| elaye | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/topic/ssh_auth_sock_unavailable/82558905?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,82558905 but to no avail. Here is the error log: https://pastebin.com/YShHfqBC and here is my recipe: https://pastebin.com/m1gWWZNQ | 13:38 |
| qschulz | elaye: it seems your host was not able to resolve gitlab.com? | 13:41 |
| elaye | qschulz: yes that's what the cargo error seems to imply however I can build the crate on the same host outside of the bitbake environment, and bitbake is also able to fetch the crate from the private gitlab repo | 13:43 |
| rburton | network is disabled in do_compile, so it must be going to fetch. why can't you fetch everything via SRC_URI? | 13:44 |
| elaye | rburton: ah I see that would make sense. Everything is actually fetched via SRC_URI, and this works since I can see the repos cloned in the build/tmp directory. So I guess the issue comes from cargo not being able to use the crates fetched by SRC_URI | 13:47 |
| RP | rburton: any idea what this means from debuginfod: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/86/builds/4643/steps/14/logs/stdio ? :/ | 13:51 |
| RP | rburton: it is also spewing all those warnings which makes the logs really really annoying | 13:51 |
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| RP | e.g. https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/80/builds/4599/steps/14/logs/stdio | 13:51 |
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| qschulz | moto-timo: how bad is it to have [PATCH meta-python 0/2] instead of [meta-python][PATCH 0/2]? | 15:43 |
| qschulz | moto-timo: I think b4 only supports generating patches with the first pattern | 15:43 |
| qschulz | just to know if I should just edit the headers by hand/work with b4 to have something match your worflow | 15:43 |
| qschulz | workflow* | 15:43 |
| rburton | RP: hm, give me a minute and i'll page that knowledge back in | 15:45 |
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| rburton | RP: reliably failing or intermittent | 15:47 |
| RP | rburton: intermittent, naturally. I think the long logs are consistent though, just hidden if nothing fails in that thread | 15:54 |
| rburton | i wonder if its getting mixed up with multiple testimages happening at once | 15:54 |
| RP | rburton: they'd be in separate build directories | 15:56 |
| rburton | its a network operation to the host | 15:56 |
| rburton | so it might be hitting the wrong debuginfod socket | 15:56 |
| rburton | fairly easily tested, give me a bit | 15:57 |
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| moto-timo | qschulz: that is a question for khem, as he is the one staging patches | 16:04 |
| rburton | RP: the locked database thing is weird as its using an in-memory db for the selftest | 16:06 |
| RP | rburton: yes, I don't understand it but I've not looked :/ | 16:07 |
| rburton | [Mon 09 Jan 2023 11:18:44 AM GMT] (3773146/3773146): upstream debuginfod servers: https://debuginfod.fedoraproject.org/ | 16:09 |
| rburton | well i doubt that's the problem but that's stupid :) | 16:09 |
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| rburton | ah i wonder if its grabbing that from the environment somehow | 16:10 |
| rburton | yes, interesting | 16:11 |
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| qschulz | moto-timo: your mail address is outdated here: https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-python/README#n40 | 17:04 |
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| rburton | RP: ffs try to replicate and it just fails [Mon Jan 9 17:07:21 2023] (2119034/2119034): libmicrohttpd error: Failed to create worker inter-thread communication channel: Too many open files | 17:10 |
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| RP | rburton: sounds very strange | 17:11 |
| rburton | $ sysctl fs.file-nr | 17:12 |
| rburton | fs.file-nr = 13856065536 | 17:12 |
| moto-timo | qschulz: no, that is a valid email address for non-work FOSS | 17:12 |
| victoridaho[m] | Anyone have any ideas on how to resolve "Error: Could not find class file for 'java.net.InetAddressImplFactory" when trying to add "perf" to the build? Not even sure why "perf" needs java. | 17:12 |
| rburton | i'll push that up maybe it needs more | 17:12 |
| rburton | victoridaho[m]: perf doesn't | 17:13 |
| rburton | (i built perf and don't even have java installed or meta-java added) | 17:13 |
| victoridaho[m] | rburton: I think it has to do with creating debug symbols etc. | 17:13 |
| qschulz | moto-timo: got rejected by your mail provider then | 17:14 |
| rburton | ah hm perf does have some java poking | 17:14 |
| rburton | so it probably found java on your host and tried to use it | 17:14 |
| victoridaho[m] | It's running "/workdir/build-shasta-dev/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/icedtea7-native/2.1.3-r1.0/icedtea-2.1.3/build/bootstrap/jdk1.6.0/bin/java" | 17:14 |
| qschulz | moto-timo: and I stupidly deleted the mails so can't say, will try with a simple mail instead | 17:14 |
| rburton | victoridaho[m]: so our perf recipe turns off java support | 17:15 |
| rburton | victoridaho[m]: but you're enabling it as its building icedtea, so you shoud talk to the meta-java maintainers | 17:16 |
| victoridaho[m] | How do I find who are the maintainers? | 17:16 |
| rburton | meta-java's readme file | 17:16 |
| victoridaho[m] | thx | 17:17 |
| qschulz | moto-timo: k my bad, got a reject from spam assassin or simialr | 17:18 |
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| qschulz | moto-timo: PEBKAC, sorry | 17:20 |
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| rburton | RP: would be easier to strace if debuginfod didn't spawn literally 1000 threads | 17:27 |
| rburton | strace -ff resulted in 1018 log files | 17:27 |
| RP | rburton: that sounds a bit crazy :/ | 17:27 |
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| rburton | RP: its opening a silly number of epoll sockets and hitting the limit on this machine (the 256 core one...) | 17:33 |
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| kanavin | rburton, -c, --concurrency=NUM Limit scanning thread concurrency to NUM, | 17:53 |
| kanavin | default=#CPUs. | 17:53 |
| kanavin | -C, --connection-pool[=NUM] Use webapi connection pool with NUM threads, | 17:53 |
| kanavin | default=unlim. | 17:53 |
| kanavin | relevant maybe? | 17:53 |
| rburton | yeah just wondering why its trying to open 1000+ epoll sockets | 18:02 |
| kanavin | halstead, how many pre-haswell build machines are there on the AB? I found at least one (fedora36-ty-1) with 'E5-2697 v2' - v2 is ivy bridge, and just one version short. There's a change in oe-core that requires at least haswell hardware when running qemu with kvm. | 18:08 |
| kanavin | RP: ^^^. I fixed gdk-pixbuf, but runqemu kvm does crash on that machine, it's just one generation too old. | 18:08 |
| kanavin | RP: I'd hope there is not a lot of those, we'd be seeing a lot more crashes if it was so. | 18:10 |
| halstead | kanavin: I think there are quite a few ivybridge machines as well as a few ARM64 machines. I can get a count. Which AMD chips are supported? | 18:10 |
| kanavin | halstead, intel: haswell and newer, amd: excavator and newer | 18:11 |
| kanavin | arm64 is not affected | 18:12 |
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| moto-timo | qschulz: your patches aren't being picked up by lore nor patchwork... perhaps you need to use 'b4 prep --set-prefixes' differently? https://b4.docs.kernel.org/en/latest/contributor/prep.html | 18:44 |
| moto-timo | qschulz: I haven't tried using b4 to send patches yet | 18:45 |
| halstead | kanavin: I emailed you the list of CPUs. It does appear everything else is haswell or newer. | 18:47 |
| halstead | kanavin: Oh and perf-alma8.yocto.io is also an E5-2697 v2. Do we use qemu on the perf workers? | 18:49 |
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| kanavin | halstead, thanks. perf workers are not affected either. | 19:06 |
| halstead | kanavin: So do we need to limit builds on fedora36-ty-1 or retire the hardware? | 19:07 |
| kanavin | halstead, I'm not sure what's best, but maybe you have a spare CPU you could swap in, or simply disable the worker. | 19:07 |
| kanavin | halstead, I don't think we can easily filter builds at the moment by whether they need kvm or not, so it can't run anything from a-full or a-quck | 19:08 |
| halstead | kanavin: I think we are out of spare CPUs. I can double check. We might have to retire that worker and make it a perf machine or something. | 19:09 |
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| kanavin | halstead, thanks, I don't have any particular suggestions. | 19:11 |
| kanavin | halstead, not sure if you're aware, it's due to enabling level 3 instructions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Microarchitecture_levels | 19:13 |
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| kanavin | level 4 will not be happening anytime soon (or probably not so soon either) | 19:14 |
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| kanavin | (the table is slightly out of date, qemu does support level 3 since one month ago) | 19:15 |
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| RP | kanavin: we might just have to drop back a tune level, we really need the hardware we have | 21:16 |
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| RP | halstead: We can probably go back to an older tune for a while as I suspect if we're hitting this, too many others will as well | 21:23 |
| halstead | RP, the uninative is ready. | 21:24 |
| halstead | RP, can we select the tune adaptively? | 21:24 |
| RP | halstead: I saw, thanks for the that. I'll be happy if we can fix some issues with that! | 21:25 |
| RP | halstead: no, this is the CPU optimisation the target binaries are built for so it needs to be the same for qemux86-64 everywhere | 21:25 |
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| halstead | I suppose this is an example of our diverse build lab helping certain users. | 21:30 |
| RP | halstead: right, I think that is the best way to look at it | 21:32 |
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| JaMa | FWIW: I've changed DEFAULTTUNE to corei7-64 (instead of the original core2-64), because of VirtualBox and all seems to work https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/d15535fe4eba8b88f10fd50d92400b5e426bfdc2 | 21:35 |
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| paulg | I don't know where to look to answer this - can anyone say if qemu ppc64 boot tests are still run as part of autobuild coverage? | 21:44 |
| RP | paulg: I was talking to vvmeson about this last week. We don't build or boot ppc64 at all at the moment | 21:51 |
| RP | paulg: no qemuppc64 on https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders | 21:52 |
| RP | well, not active | 21:52 |
| vvmeson | paulg: Yeah, we need to convince RP and the YP TSC to drop something (mips64!) and add ppc64. I had assumed that ppc64 was being tested. | 21:53 |
| paulg | ok - thanks - good to know. | 21:53 |
| paulg | and no. I won't support adding ppc64. | 21:54 |
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| paulg | we (RP and I) talked about this over a year ago when ppc32 was becoming problematic emulating a 1998 turd. | 21:55 |
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| vvmeson | paulg: but I bet you wouldn't mind if we drop mips64! | 21:55 |
| paulg | Yes, I want all old crap dropped. It is no secret. | 21:56 |
| paulg | It is how software survives. | 21:56 |
| paulg | I'm sure RP would be thrilled to see a release blocked for a yocto-on-Amiga bug. | 21:57 |
| RP | paulg: I'd be surprised it worked there in the first place :D | 21:59 |
| abelloni | challenge accepted! | 21:59 |
| paulg | yocti, tell vmeson ppc64 and mips64 should die together like Thelma and Louise. | 21:59 |
| yocti | paulg: Error: I haven't seen vmeson, I'll let you do the telling. | 21:59 |
| * RP does have YP building images for his AVR microcontrollers | 22:00 | |
| paulg | yocti, tell vvmeson ppc64 and mips64 should die together like Thelma and Louise. | 22:00 |
| yocti | paulg: The operation succeeded. | 22:00 |
| RP | The scary bit of my AVR support is it builds a gcc on target cross compiler :D | 22:00 |
| paulg | I should know better by now to simply trust tab completion on IRC nicks. | 22:01 |
| RP | An x86-64 host building a cross compiler to run on an arm board generating AVR binaries | 22:02 |
| paulg | I might actually be able to get behind AVR since there are a zillion wifi LED bulbs out there that could run it. | 22:02 |
| paulg | I'm sure I own a bunch.... | 22:03 |
| * vvmeson waits for his ghost /nick to drift into the ether... | 22:03 | |
| abelloni | RP: which version of gcc are you using for that? :) | 22:03 |
| RP | abelloni: it was a while ago | 22:03 |
| paulg | abelloni, don't go there. ;-) You'll never come back. | 22:03 |
| paulg | things I call "time thief" or "slave to your possessions" | 22:04 |
| abelloni | I ripped out avr from the kernel so I know ;) | 22:04 |
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| RP | abelloni: it was for firmware for microcontrollers, not linux | 22:05 |
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| abelloni | aren't we ready for avr128? :) | 22:09 |
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| RP | abelloni: skip to 256 ;-) | 22:24 |
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| RP | JPEW: are you around atm? I've found another threading issue. I think I know the answer but... | 22:32 |
| JPEW | Sure, I've got a little time | 22:32 |
| RP | JPEW: I think we have a problem with the idle condition we added in that there are actually two things needed for the condition - no idle functions *and* the async command is None | 22:33 |
| RP | We don't put any locking around the current async command | 22:33 |
| RP | JPEW: this currentAsyncCommand in command.py | 22:33 |
| RP | JPEW: I think the code races at the moment since the idle functions can be empty but the command hasn't been cleared | 22:34 |
| JPEW | Ah `# FIXME Add a lock for this` | 22:34 |
| RP | JPEW: heh, yes | 22:35 |
| RP | JPEW: this was a failing log: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/bitbake%20hang/ | 22:35 |
| RP | JPEW: note the second last "Registering idle function" with no "Removing idle function" | 22:36 |
| RP | JPEW: I think we may be able to roll this all under the same lock/condition | 22:37 |
| JPEW | Ya, you would want to use the same lock | 22:38 |
| JPEW | Fortunately, the condition can be as complex as you need, so you don't necessarily have to _leave_ it locked all the time | 22:38 |
| RP | the condition is easy, we just check for it being None | 22:39 |
| JPEW | currentAsyncCommand == None ? | 22:39 |
| JPEW | err, `is None` | 22:39 |
| JPEW | I write python, I swear | 22:39 |
| RP | heh, yes, that :) | 22:40 |
| RP | JPEW: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=6939b8ace763813eebf33bd54f2404bf47cf892c should make the code a bit easier to follow too | 22:40 |
| * RP remembers why we did this and is happy it isn't needed now | 22:40 | |
| JPEW | Oh, ya, this can be simplifed a lot | 22:41 |
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| JPEW | RP: Yes, it needs to all be under the same condition variable; it's a little annoying that the state is split between they two classes; that makes it really hard to follow | 22:52 |
| RP | JPEW: yes, I was just cursing that a bit :/ | 22:52 |
| JPEW | I was moving currentAsyncCommand to be under ProcessServer() with atomic get/set/clear functions, but I don't know how to get that object in all the calls in `class Command` | 22:53 |
| JPEW | Passed as an argument in runCommand... but not the others | 22:54 |
| RP | JPEW: I think with my patch above we can make it appear to runAsyncCommand as well | 22:54 |
| RP | JPEW: finishAsyncCommand is harder | 22:57 |
| JPEW | RP: I see that | 22:57 |
| RP | JPEW: is "buildTargets.needcache = True" the best way to put information against these functions? | 22:58 |
| RP | I was wondering about marking the functions which had return codes or shouldn't have finishAsyncCommand called | 22:58 |
| JPEW | Oh, ya, you could put a boolean flag in there like that | 22:59 |
| JPEW | mmm...you'll probably need them to return their return code in that case | 23:01 |
| JPEW | RP: Also... buildTargets and buildFile are the only two that *don't* need it? | 23:01 |
| RP | JPEW: right, it isn't straightforward :/. I think we just add the process server to command.Command() | 23:02 |
| JPEW | in __init__ ? | 23:02 |
| RP | JPEW: right, those two are the only ones that don't need it but there is a return code on another | 23:02 |
| JPEW | (as a member) | 23:02 |
| RP | JPEW: yes | 23:02 |
| JPEW | Ya, I wasn't sure if that was OK in this case, but that would be the most straight forward way | 23:02 |
| RP | JPEW: there were reasons it once wasn't possible. Not sure now | 23:02 |
| JPEW | ... why don't those two call finishAsyncCommand? | 23:04 |
| RP | JPEW: they trigger their own idle loop handlers to be added | 23:05 |
| RP | JPEW: grep for idle in cooker.py | 23:05 |
| JPEW | Ah, I see | 23:05 |
| JPEW | Ah, and the idle function call finishAsyncCommand when they are done | 23:06 |
| RP | right | 23:06 |
| JPEW | .... intersting | 23:06 |
| RP | JPEW: this is what you get to retrofitting server/client split onto really old code | 23:06 |
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| JPEW | Ya | 23:06 |
| JPEW | RP: I have to go, but if you get a change, I can review it, otherwise I can try to cook up something tomorrow | 23:07 |
| RP | JPEW: thanks. I'll see what I can come up with. You at least agree it is likely currently quite broken? :/ | 23:09 |
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| JPEW | RP: Seems so | 23:20 |
| RP | JPEW: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/commit/?h=rpurdie/t222&id=18c769b173b9f993425c2fcb29200ec689ca0e55 is my attempt at a patch so far | 23:21 |
| RP | JPEW: there is a ton of cleanup I think we can do elsewhere but I'm not cluttering this change with it | 23:21 |
| RP | JPEW: I've put them on bitbake master-next | 23:24 |
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| zeddii | RP: strange question. I updated master to work on my next series. After I did a bitbake core-image-minimal to get a baseline, like I normally do. Whenever I do it again, it is always finding something to build and package. I assume it is related to your latest bitbake changes and maybe something I don't have in my local.conf now ? | 23:34 |
| RP | zeddii: it sounds like a bug :( | 23:35 |
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| RP | zeddii: always something different or the same thing each time? | 23:35 |
| zeddii | I can answer that in a bit. I'll let it complete this time and do it again. | 23:36 |
| RP | zeddii: it isn't anything I'm aware of. There was one cache reparsing issue but that was just the cache and reparsing when it shouldn't, not rebuilding | 23:36 |
| zeddii | maybe the image didn't really complete the first time ? it dropped me back to the prompt. I'll have to watch for that s well. | 23:37 |
| zeddii | since this is what it found on the 2nd bitbake core-image-minimal | 23:37 |
| zeddii | https://pastebin.com/ACXXRjdk | 23:37 |
| zeddii | which seems like a lot. | 23:37 |
| RP | zeddii: you should have a history of build logs in tmp/log/cooker/<MACHINE> FWIW | 23:39 |
| RP | zeddii: those will say what happened in each previous build | 23:39 |
| RP | zeddii: knowing which task is the first to rebuild is the data point we need | 23:41 |
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