Saturday, 2023-03-04

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Entei[m]I have played with default poky distribution for some days now, added packages to it, resized rootfs, enabled image features, even done some ISA tuning for the OS image. Now I wish to customize all aspects of the image, while inheriting most of poky's.10:24
Entei[m]So far I mostly customized by directly editing the files in `meta/conf` , which would be deemed the wrong way to do it by Yocto's layer approach. Also I wish to customize things like the package naming scheme (right now there's r0 in it), the kernel name, gcc target name etc.10:24
Entei[m]How do I go about this? Youtube videos only show building poky at best. I am reading the reference manual but the information feels too scattered. Also there's tons of variables.10:24
Entei[m]How did you guys go about it?10:24
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rpcmeI am looking at fixing YOCTO#14802 this weekend. I am aware of set_versions.py and such, but I am looking for the process on how docs are actually released so I know how the build gets triggered centrally and have awareness how the variables that affect versioning get set. I couldn't get that figured through10:45
rpcmehttps://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Yocto_Release_Engineering so if someone could point me in the right direction that would be awesome.10:45
rpcmeI also looked at https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Review which is named in the bug but... it's still a bit challenging to decode.10:49
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DvorkinDmitryI ahve two kernel versions: _v0 and _v1. I need to install kernel-module-v0 or kernel-module-v1 into the image depending on kernel version I choosed with PREFFERED_...11:27
DvorkinDmitryhow to do this correctly?11:27
RPrpcme: the docs are now basically entirely auto generated11:36
RPrpcme: you can see the docs builds here: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/11411:36
RPrpcme: you can see it runs /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/docs/yocto-autobuilder-helper/scripts/run-docs-build /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/docs /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/docs/yocto-docs /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/docs/bitbake11:37
RPrpcme: i.e. https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-autobuilder-helper/tree/scripts/run-docs-build11:38
rpcmeRP: this is very useful I will work backwards from this. In the defect there is some mention of the Poky versioning tie-in so it's helpful for me to get the whole landscape before I write what to change before actually patching anything. The whole .999 thing really bugs me (why I put in the bug in the first place) and I really don't know the11:40
rpcmehistory behind adding .999 which is also what I mentioned in the defect11:40
RPrpcme: The reason is you have the released versions but you also have the "latest build of the docs from the branch" which don't have a version yet11:47
rpcmeRP: Ok great - let me see if I can swimlane this or something to get it sorted in my head. I think I understand the timing issue (bleeding edge vs release tagged version). Maybe where I'm confused is 999 is being used instead of some kind of variable marker like X. But I need to understand deeper before trying to resolve my initial error which is11:54
rpcmethe docs autogenerate a broken link download so maybe nothing needs to be fixed in code, just say wherever there is a download link that the 999 marker is bleeding edge and won't have a download location11:54
RPrpcme: or, we make those download links point to the last release instead of bleeding edge11:55
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RPrpcme: it just needs someone to think all the pieces through, I don't think anyone has found the time for that. I agree we shouldn't have broken links11:56
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mischiefEntei[m]: make a layer12:17
rpcmeRP: yes let me do some writing to think through it. We've both been doing build systems long enough to know that changes like this have dark corners :)12:18
Entei[m]mischief: Did that. But not sure how to inherit properties from other layers12:19
RPrpcme: exactly!12:19
RPrpcme: those scripts should be able to run locally btw, maybe with the final copy to location disabled12:20
mischiefEntei[m]: for us, we have poky/meta-oe and our own layer, with a custom site.conf/machines and image/packagegroup recipe, and recipes/bbappends on top of that12:20
mischiefpretty much everything can be overridden that way12:21
Entei[m]mischief: Do you have a public repo or know of any where I could get inspiration from?12:22
mischiefi don't. our firmware is closed unfortunately.12:24
mischiefi can describe our basic layout but i'm not sure it really conforms to yocto ideals :-)12:25
mischiefwe set TEMPLATECONF for meta-$company/conf, and in there just have a bblayers.conf.sample with our layer setup + poky/meta-oe12:26
mischieffrom there you can write any recipes or bbappends for upstream in meta-$company/ along with machines in conf or whatever12:26
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mischiefmaybe https://github.com/Xilinx/meta-petalinux is a good example? but probably complex for a starting point12:31
mischieffor us, we just have poky/meta-oe as submodules but you could probably also use repo12:31
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rpcmeRP: I updated the ticket to give the only three options I see without fundamentally changing the .999 scheme (which I think is an OK compromise but might want to get its use documented in WIki or something) - I think the first option is the least painful but would require an additional step in new release seeding. Maybe it should be discussed in13:31
rpcmethe list.13:31
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Entei[m]<mischief> "maybe https://github.com/Xilinx..." <- yeah this looks too complicated, too many things in every file....14:27
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DvorkinDmitryI have two kernel versions: _v0 and _v1. I need to install kernel-module-x0 or kernel-module-x1 into the image depending on kernel version I choose. How to do that?16:28
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