Tuesday, 2023-04-11

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LetoThe2ndyo dudX06:37
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mckoangood morning06:50
RPkhem: increase the number to the tap creation script?06:51
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mihaiahoy07:46
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kanavin"Dear Alexander Kanavin,08:14
kanavinWe are delighted to accept your submission, Setting Up Yocto Layers and Builds With Official Tools – 2023 Edition, and invite you to join us as a speaker for Embedded Open Source Summit, Tuesday, June 27 to Friday, June 30, 2023 at the Prague Congress Centre in Prague, Czech Republic."08:14
kanavinNow is the time to panic!08:14
kanavinI've never done a conference talk before08:14
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LetoThe2ndkanavin: \o/08:18
mckoankanavin: congrats!08:24
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landgrafkanavin: Congrats! now I have to start to look for the budget to visit the conference...08:28
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qschulzkanavin: congrats!09:20
qschulzkanavin: have a usb stick with your slides in 4/3 and 16/9 in case your laptop behaves the day of the presentation and you borrow someone's (it's happened in the past :) )09:21
kanavinqschulz, I first need to learn how to make slides.09:22
kanavinqschulz, what is a good tool for that?09:22
qschulzkanavin: hehehe09:22
LetoThe2ndkanavin: ChatPPT :-)09:23
kanavinI'm not sure what was the last time I produced a slide, at least 10 years ago probably09:23
qschulzkanavin: libreoffice impress?09:23
qschulzyou could also use latex :)09:23
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qschulzI think some people also use some html based slides ( jonmason or rburton ?)09:25
qschulzkanavin: remember that the room may be deep so don't have too much info on it09:25
qschulzkanavin: except if you're willing to fight the demo gods, no demos :)09:26
qschulz(or record them in advance and comment the "video")09:26
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kanavinqschulz, but how can you give a talk on <see subject above> without demos? and accessing the network, no less :)09:27
qschulzkanavin: pre-recorded demo09:27
landgrafLetoThe2nd: :D09:28
kanavinqschulz, that should be a plan B if live demo stumbles, but yes09:28
LetoThe2ndkanavin: its all a matter of style and preference. I can picture the topic working perfectly without live demo.09:29
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RPkanavin: there is something to be said for keeping it simple, a lot depends on how comfortable you are handling things if it doesn't go to plan.09:51
kanavinRP: there's time to think about it, or actually about what i want to say and show in general09:54
RPkanavin: definitely! It does sound like a good topic09:55
* sudip starts thinking of questions to ask kanavin during his talk10:02
kanavinRP: I had two other topics in mind (accelerated virtual graphics, which is fun, and keeping recipes up to date in a way that scales, which is both important and not well known), but this edges them out somewhat10:03
kanavinsudip, 'why not use kas? we use in for our product, and we do not want to change' :-)10:04
kanavinsudip, I'll pre-emptively answer that one ;)10:04
sudiplol10:04
LetoThe2ndkanavin: hehe10:05
* LetoThe2nd will be presenting too10:05
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IAmNotJohnSuppose I have two different meta- layers and both add a file in which they try to apply a patch. How does yocto handle this if: 1. they have the same priority 2. one patch is older than the other (how does yocto know which one to apply first)?12:13
LetoThe2ndIAmNotJohn: its not exactly clear what the situation is. what kind of file do you want to patch? is it two recipes with different versions? or two appends?12:15
IAmNotJohnSuppose you have meta-A and meta-B which have a similar recipe myrecipe_%.bb and the same files directory which includes a patch that needs to be applied. Suppose it is configured such that both patches are trying to be applied to the same thing, how does Yocto handle this?12:17
LetoThe2ndIAmNotJohn: myrecipe_%.bb makes no sense, thats why i ask. so it is myrecipe_%.bbappend? in that case, both get applied, or at least tried to, and bitbake will probably err out because the patch does not apply.12:18
RPIAmNotJohn: it will do what the resulting SRC_URI says and try and apply the patches in the order listed there12:19
RPif the patches don't apply in that order, you'll get an error as LetoThe2nd says12:19
IAmNotJohnLetoThe2nd Sorry .bbappend, thanks both of you12:25
LetoThe2ndIAmNotJohn: np12:25
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yoctonHi! I'm also accepted at EOSS : "Yocto vs Embedded Systems Cybersecurity Requirements" :)13:54
mckoanyocton: congrats!13:56
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yoctonmckoan: Thanks :)14:14
RPyocton: sounds good! :)14:15
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meegoI'm nearly done upgrading a project from Sumo to Kirkstone and I just thought I'd pop my head here and say Yocto/BB/OE is a joy to use. A big thanks to contributors & maintainers!14:47
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meegoNow I just need to learn how to submit patches over email. It's a bit intimidating for folks like me with a habit of working with github/gitlab..14:50
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mckoanmeego: thank you from YP :-)15:03
yoctonmeego: Do you plan to use git-send-email? (I found this the easiest way)15:03
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meegoyocton: ah that could work. This and devtool update-recipe {PN}, right ?15:07
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yoctonMaybe? I don't use devtool nearly as I should -_-'15:29
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pasherringHey, all :) I am investigating an issue while deploying the sdk to a github workflow runner. I was wondering if there is an option to generate the sdk consisting of two files, the install script and the tarball itself.15:49
pasherringI am getting "tail: error writing 'standard output': Broken pipe", which makes me wonder if this is the piped tail that pushes data into tar, possibly causing uncompressing errors that I may be missing15:52
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TRO[m]Is there any plan to enable "devtool upgrade xyz" for Rust recipes? Is there any work in progress?15:57
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pasherringNevermind, just tried with a tarball'ed extract from another system, to the same path, and the real error still persists16:07
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dariohi, if i hypothetically™ were planning to open-source a drop-in replacement for polkit without the javascript dependency, and wanted to integrate to meta-oe, who could i talk to re how to go about refactoring existing polkit recipe and dependencies e.g. in systemd or udisks2?16:32
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ameliushey, does anyone know if there's a way to set hwclock as non-root?16:35
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meegoamelius: CAP_SYS_TIME?16:46
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kanavinTRO[m], no and no. patches welcome.17:53
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kanavindario, no one in particular. prepare and submit a set of patches to oe-devel/oe-core mailing lists. You can mark them as RFC for 'softer' review :)17:54
vermaetehi all,  Small question about the new format of the CVE database.17:55
vermaeteAs it is not in the main of meta-openembedded.17:55
vermaeteI can't find a good way to store the new CVE data local.17:55
vermaeteI need to have it local because we have an air gapped network.17:55
vermaeteThe version 1.1 was rather easy.  Just a script to copy all files and place it local.17:56
vermaeteBut the new format seem to be more complex to download.17:56
vermaeteDuring the talks the Monday after Fosdem in Brussel was mentioned it could be that YP or OE was creating it at the downloads website.17:57
vermaeteI see some attempts, but rather old.17:57
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vermaetehttp://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/CVE_CHECK/17:58
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dariokanavin: kk, will do :-)18:23
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khemRP: https://dpaste.org/a6aAn this is what I see21:20
khemso I think somewhere a test cycle ends and tap0 is free but the next qemu runs is not able to use it21:20
khemI wonder if its a timing issue21:20
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khemalso see https://dpaste.org/yWR0S21:23
khemread of closed file, seems to tell me that there is some hand off problem between qemus for tap devices21:23
khemsame test works ok if run alone21:23
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RPkhem: puzzling as it works fine on the autobuilders21:46
RPkhem: I suspect some kind of setup/permissions issue21:46
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khemyeah possible I think if I sort it out then I can enable meta-oe and meta-python ptests in my CI workflow21:56
khemlucaceresoli_: you have picked my patch https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/179895 but dropped systemd upgrade patch https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/17986621:57
khemthat wont work well. both these patches should be applied or removed together21:57
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RPkhem: how did you setup the devices?22:02
RPkhem: is there anything odd about /tmp/qemu-tap-locks/ ?22:02
khemI let runqemu do it for me22:02
RPkhem: so you gave it sudo permissions?22:02
khemthe user its running under has some permissions22:03
khem```22:04
khem% ls  /tmp/qemu-tap-locks/  -l... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e180e69b50418b7df7e8d23974db82ea830c1457>)22:04
RPkhem: normally I set the devices up with "scripts/runqemu-gen-tapdevs <uid> <gid> <number of devices> tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/qemu-helper-native/usr/bin"22:06
RPkhem: have a look at the help output for the script for miore hints22:07
khemhmmm so you do it before every build?22:07
khem% ls tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/qemu-helper-native/usr/bin -l22:07
khemtotal 40K22:07
khem-rwxr-xr-x 28 kraj kraj 17K Apr 11 10:54 qemu-oe-bridge-helper*22:07
khem-rwxr-xr-x 28 kraj kraj 17K Apr 11 10:54 tunctl*22:07
RPkhem: once at system boot22:07
RPkhem: once the devices are setup with the right permissions, multiple builds can use the devices as needed22:08
Nostromo31Hey folks, have a quick question. Have a use case where I need to write a custom bitbake recipe that installs a .deb package to the target device. Current recipe looks like this:22:08
Nostromo31DESCRIPTION = ""22:08
Nostromo31LICENSE = "CLOSED"22:08
Nostromo31DEPENDS += " dpkg-native "22:08
Nostromo31SRC_URI += " file://mypackage.deb;unpack=0"22:08
Nostromo31do_install:append() {22:08
Nostromo31    touch ${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}/var/lib/dpkg/status22:08
Nostromo31    ${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}/dpkg --instdir=${D}/ \22:08
Nostromo31    --admindir=${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}/var/lib/dpkg/ \22:08
Nostromo31    -i ${WORKDIR}/mypackage.deb22:08
Nostromo31}22:08
Nostromo31Running a bitbake myrecipe.bb results in this however:22:08
Nostromo31| tar: ./conffiles: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument22:08
Nostromo31| tar: ./control: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument22:08
Nostromo31| tar: ./md5sums: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument22:08
Nostromo31| tar: ./postinst: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument22:08
Nostromo31| tar: .: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument22:08
Nostromo31| tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors22:08
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khemNostromo31: I think you need to 'inherit bin_package'22:10
Nostromo31Thank you, I'll give that a shot.22:12
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khemRP: so runqemu has setup_tap() which should create the tap on demand right ?22:16
khemso you are saying to not use it22:16
RPkhem: it can work in multiple ways. I'm saying that for the autobuilders and my own personal build machines, I generate the devices in advance using the script I mentioned and runqemu knows how to work with that just fine22:17
RPkhem: I don't know if the sudo tap code in runqemu is broken for multiple instances or what that didn't work for you22:17
RPs/what/why/22:18
khemyeah, I wonder if there is a limit on creating taps22:18
khembecause it always is 4 devices22:19
khemand my task parallelism is 1222:19
RPkhem: I don't remember. Locally I setup a load, it is a parameter to the setup script22:20
RPkhem: It worked for 88 devices locally FWIW22:20
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khemhmmm yes, I think its perhaps the tap creation in runqemu is not stressed enough I guess22:21
khemlet me create them manually and see if this helps22:22
RPkhem: we should probably file a bug and try and fix that but I'm trying to get you running :)22:22
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khemyeah if manual creation works on this machine then I will file a bug, It could just be my machine too22:25
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