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LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:37 |
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mckoan | good morning | 06:50 |
RP | khem: increase the number to the tap creation script? | 06:51 |
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mihai | ahoy | 07:46 |
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kanavin | "Dear Alexander Kanavin, | 08:14 |
kanavin | We are delighted to accept your submission, Setting Up Yocto Layers and Builds With Official Tools – 2023 Edition, and invite you to join us as a speaker for Embedded Open Source Summit, Tuesday, June 27 to Friday, June 30, 2023 at the Prague Congress Centre in Prague, Czech Republic." | 08:14 |
kanavin | Now is the time to panic! | 08:14 |
kanavin | I've never done a conference talk before | 08:14 |
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LetoThe2nd | kanavin: \o/ | 08:18 |
mckoan | kanavin: congrats! | 08:24 |
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landgraf | kanavin: Congrats! now I have to start to look for the budget to visit the conference... | 08:28 |
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qschulz | kanavin: congrats! | 09:20 |
qschulz | kanavin: have a usb stick with your slides in 4/3 and 16/9 in case your laptop behaves the day of the presentation and you borrow someone's (it's happened in the past :) ) | 09:21 |
kanavin | qschulz, I first need to learn how to make slides. | 09:22 |
kanavin | qschulz, what is a good tool for that? | 09:22 |
qschulz | kanavin: hehehe | 09:22 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin: ChatPPT :-) | 09:23 |
kanavin | I'm not sure what was the last time I produced a slide, at least 10 years ago probably | 09:23 |
qschulz | kanavin: libreoffice impress? | 09:23 |
qschulz | you could also use latex :) | 09:23 |
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qschulz | I think some people also use some html based slides ( jonmason or rburton ?) | 09:25 |
qschulz | kanavin: remember that the room may be deep so don't have too much info on it | 09:25 |
qschulz | kanavin: except if you're willing to fight the demo gods, no demos :) | 09:26 |
qschulz | (or record them in advance and comment the "video") | 09:26 |
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kanavin | qschulz, but how can you give a talk on <see subject above> without demos? and accessing the network, no less :) | 09:27 |
qschulz | kanavin: pre-recorded demo | 09:27 |
landgraf | LetoThe2nd: :D | 09:28 |
kanavin | qschulz, that should be a plan B if live demo stumbles, but yes | 09:28 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin: its all a matter of style and preference. I can picture the topic working perfectly without live demo. | 09:29 |
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RP | kanavin: there is something to be said for keeping it simple, a lot depends on how comfortable you are handling things if it doesn't go to plan. | 09:51 |
kanavin | RP: there's time to think about it, or actually about what i want to say and show in general | 09:54 |
RP | kanavin: definitely! It does sound like a good topic | 09:55 |
* sudip starts thinking of questions to ask kanavin during his talk | 10:02 | |
kanavin | RP: I had two other topics in mind (accelerated virtual graphics, which is fun, and keeping recipes up to date in a way that scales, which is both important and not well known), but this edges them out somewhat | 10:03 |
kanavin | sudip, 'why not use kas? we use in for our product, and we do not want to change' :-) | 10:04 |
kanavin | sudip, I'll pre-emptively answer that one ;) | 10:04 |
sudip | lol | 10:04 |
LetoThe2nd | kanavin: hehe | 10:05 |
* LetoThe2nd will be presenting too | 10:05 | |
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IAmNotJohn | Suppose I have two different meta- layers and both add a file in which they try to apply a patch. How does yocto handle this if: 1. they have the same priority 2. one patch is older than the other (how does yocto know which one to apply first)? | 12:13 |
LetoThe2nd | IAmNotJohn: its not exactly clear what the situation is. what kind of file do you want to patch? is it two recipes with different versions? or two appends? | 12:15 |
IAmNotJohn | Suppose you have meta-A and meta-B which have a similar recipe myrecipe_%.bb and the same files directory which includes a patch that needs to be applied. Suppose it is configured such that both patches are trying to be applied to the same thing, how does Yocto handle this? | 12:17 |
LetoThe2nd | IAmNotJohn: myrecipe_%.bb makes no sense, thats why i ask. so it is myrecipe_%.bbappend? in that case, both get applied, or at least tried to, and bitbake will probably err out because the patch does not apply. | 12:18 |
RP | IAmNotJohn: it will do what the resulting SRC_URI says and try and apply the patches in the order listed there | 12:19 |
RP | if the patches don't apply in that order, you'll get an error as LetoThe2nd says | 12:19 |
IAmNotJohn | LetoThe2nd Sorry .bbappend, thanks both of you | 12:25 |
LetoThe2nd | IAmNotJohn: np | 12:25 |
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yocton | Hi! I'm also accepted at EOSS : "Yocto vs Embedded Systems Cybersecurity Requirements" :) | 13:54 |
mckoan | yocton: congrats! | 13:56 |
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yocton | mckoan: Thanks :) | 14:14 |
RP | yocton: sounds good! :) | 14:15 |
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meego | I'm nearly done upgrading a project from Sumo to Kirkstone and I just thought I'd pop my head here and say Yocto/BB/OE is a joy to use. A big thanks to contributors & maintainers! | 14:47 |
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meego | Now I just need to learn how to submit patches over email. It's a bit intimidating for folks like me with a habit of working with github/gitlab.. | 14:50 |
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mckoan | meego: thank you from YP :-) | 15:03 |
yocton | meego: Do you plan to use git-send-email? (I found this the easiest way) | 15:03 |
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meego | yocton: ah that could work. This and devtool update-recipe {PN}, right ? | 15:07 |
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yocton | Maybe? I don't use devtool nearly as I should -_-' | 15:29 |
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pasherring | Hey, all :) I am investigating an issue while deploying the sdk to a github workflow runner. I was wondering if there is an option to generate the sdk consisting of two files, the install script and the tarball itself. | 15:49 |
pasherring | I am getting "tail: error writing 'standard output': Broken pipe", which makes me wonder if this is the piped tail that pushes data into tar, possibly causing uncompressing errors that I may be missing | 15:52 |
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TRO[m] | Is there any plan to enable "devtool upgrade xyz" for Rust recipes? Is there any work in progress? | 15:57 |
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pasherring | Nevermind, just tried with a tarball'ed extract from another system, to the same path, and the real error still persists | 16:07 |
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dario | hi, if i hypothetically™ were planning to open-source a drop-in replacement for polkit without the javascript dependency, and wanted to integrate to meta-oe, who could i talk to re how to go about refactoring existing polkit recipe and dependencies e.g. in systemd or udisks2? | 16:32 |
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amelius | hey, does anyone know if there's a way to set hwclock as non-root? | 16:35 |
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meego | amelius: CAP_SYS_TIME? | 16:46 |
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kanavin | TRO[m], no and no. patches welcome. | 17:53 |
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kanavin | dario, no one in particular. prepare and submit a set of patches to oe-devel/oe-core mailing lists. You can mark them as RFC for 'softer' review :) | 17:54 |
vermaete | hi all, Small question about the new format of the CVE database. | 17:55 |
vermaete | As it is not in the main of meta-openembedded. | 17:55 |
vermaete | I can't find a good way to store the new CVE data local. | 17:55 |
vermaete | I need to have it local because we have an air gapped network. | 17:55 |
vermaete | The version 1.1 was rather easy. Just a script to copy all files and place it local. | 17:56 |
vermaete | But the new format seem to be more complex to download. | 17:56 |
vermaete | During the talks the Monday after Fosdem in Brussel was mentioned it could be that YP or OE was creating it at the downloads website. | 17:57 |
vermaete | I see some attempts, but rather old. | 17:57 |
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vermaete | http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/CVE_CHECK/ | 17:58 |
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dario | kanavin: kk, will do :-) | 18:23 |
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khem | RP: https://dpaste.org/a6aAn this is what I see | 21:20 |
khem | so I think somewhere a test cycle ends and tap0 is free but the next qemu runs is not able to use it | 21:20 |
khem | I wonder if its a timing issue | 21:20 |
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khem | also see https://dpaste.org/yWR0S | 21:23 |
khem | read of closed file, seems to tell me that there is some hand off problem between qemus for tap devices | 21:23 |
khem | same test works ok if run alone | 21:23 |
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RP | khem: puzzling as it works fine on the autobuilders | 21:46 |
RP | khem: I suspect some kind of setup/permissions issue | 21:46 |
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khem | yeah possible I think if I sort it out then I can enable meta-oe and meta-python ptests in my CI workflow | 21:56 |
khem | lucaceresoli_: you have picked my patch https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/179895 but dropped systemd upgrade patch https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/179866 | 21:57 |
khem | that wont work well. both these patches should be applied or removed together | 21:57 |
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RP | khem: how did you setup the devices? | 22:02 |
RP | khem: is there anything odd about /tmp/qemu-tap-locks/ ? | 22:02 |
khem | I let runqemu do it for me | 22:02 |
RP | khem: so you gave it sudo permissions? | 22:02 |
khem | the user its running under has some permissions | 22:03 |
khem | ``` | 22:04 |
khem | % ls /tmp/qemu-tap-locks/ -l... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e180e69b50418b7df7e8d23974db82ea830c1457>) | 22:04 |
RP | khem: normally I set the devices up with "scripts/runqemu-gen-tapdevs <uid> <gid> <number of devices> tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/qemu-helper-native/usr/bin" | 22:06 |
RP | khem: have a look at the help output for the script for miore hints | 22:07 |
khem | hmmm so you do it before every build? | 22:07 |
khem | % ls tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/qemu-helper-native/usr/bin -l | 22:07 |
khem | total 40K | 22:07 |
khem | -rwxr-xr-x 28 kraj kraj 17K Apr 11 10:54 qemu-oe-bridge-helper* | 22:07 |
khem | -rwxr-xr-x 28 kraj kraj 17K Apr 11 10:54 tunctl* | 22:07 |
RP | khem: once at system boot | 22:07 |
RP | khem: once the devices are setup with the right permissions, multiple builds can use the devices as needed | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | Hey folks, have a quick question. Have a use case where I need to write a custom bitbake recipe that installs a .deb package to the target device. Current recipe looks like this: | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | DESCRIPTION = "" | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | LICENSE = "CLOSED" | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | DEPENDS += " dpkg-native " | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | SRC_URI += " file://mypackage.deb;unpack=0" | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | do_install:append() { | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | touch ${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}/var/lib/dpkg/status | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | ${STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE}/dpkg --instdir=${D}/ \ | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | --admindir=${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}/var/lib/dpkg/ \ | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | -i ${WORKDIR}/mypackage.deb | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | } | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | Running a bitbake myrecipe.bb results in this however: | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | | tar: ./conffiles: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | | tar: ./control: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | | tar: ./md5sums: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | | tar: ./postinst: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | | tar: .: Cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: Invalid argument | 22:08 |
Nostromo31 | | tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors | 22:08 |
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khem | Nostromo31: I think you need to 'inherit bin_package' | 22:10 |
Nostromo31 | Thank you, I'll give that a shot. | 22:12 |
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khem | RP: so runqemu has setup_tap() which should create the tap on demand right ? | 22:16 |
khem | so you are saying to not use it | 22:16 |
RP | khem: it can work in multiple ways. I'm saying that for the autobuilders and my own personal build machines, I generate the devices in advance using the script I mentioned and runqemu knows how to work with that just fine | 22:17 |
RP | khem: I don't know if the sudo tap code in runqemu is broken for multiple instances or what that didn't work for you | 22:17 |
RP | s/what/why/ | 22:18 |
khem | yeah, I wonder if there is a limit on creating taps | 22:18 |
khem | because it always is 4 devices | 22:19 |
khem | and my task parallelism is 12 | 22:19 |
RP | khem: I don't remember. Locally I setup a load, it is a parameter to the setup script | 22:20 |
RP | khem: It worked for 88 devices locally FWIW | 22:20 |
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khem | hmmm yes, I think its perhaps the tap creation in runqemu is not stressed enough I guess | 22:21 |
khem | let me create them manually and see if this helps | 22:22 |
RP | khem: we should probably file a bug and try and fix that but I'm trying to get you running :) | 22:22 |
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khem | yeah if manual creation works on this machine then I will file a bug, It could just be my machine too | 22:25 |
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