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Guest39Hi All, I am trying to build kirkstone on  a centos7 VM and hitting an issue with dbus. The error message says "ERROR: dbus: useradd command did not succeed." so I tried running bitbake dbus and it gives the same error. I tried `BBDEBUG=1 bitbake dbus` command and i dont know what I am looking at. Can some one help me ?04:09
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mcfriskGuest39: build dependencies from build host are nontrivial so please use a host distro from suported releases which yocto CI also builds on. See poky/meta-poky/conf/distro/poky.conf and SANITY_TESTED_DISTROS variable. CentOS7 isn't listed.06:10
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mcfriskGuest39: actually I'm wrong, centos-7 is there in the list. It may be that some tools required for building were not installed to your machine, please check https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#required-packages-for-the-build-host which doesn't currently list centos but for other distros the needed tools are listed06:35
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Entei[m]khem: Would it be advisable to remove the riscv exclusion from llvm recipe under yocto/oe core layer?06:41
Entei[m]The layer meta-clang doesn't have any bbappends that remove that exclusion, and clang itself complains about zicsr isa extension.06:41
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LetoThe2ndyo dudX09:18
tomzy_0[m]morning09:19
Guest81yo dudZ09:20
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Guest81Why is the support status so low with yocto releases: https://endoflife.date/yocto09:30
qschulzGuest81: it's not?09:30
qschulzwe have LTSes09:30
rburtonGuest81: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases09:30
rburtonand https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Stable_Release_and_LTS.  long-term support release every two years, intermediate releases are every six months but have a six month lifespan.09:31
rburtonif you're doing something in production, use a LTS09:31
rburtoneol.date is, ironically, out of date09:32
qschulzI think we can also mention that more funding would result in likely longer term support, so feel free to become a sponsor :)09:32
Guest81qschulz I would like to, however I'm just a worker bee (engineer) working under managers that have no clue of technology but at the same time get 3x my salary #reality xD09:33
Guest81I am aware of LTS, just wondering whether 2 years of support for a certain release is "enough" (sorry for stating this like this)09:33
rburtonmanagement won't know they should be throwing a bit of cash at yocto if nobody tells them :)09:34
rburtonevery little helps09:34
qschulzGuest81: LTSes are a new things for us, we started with Dunfell and you can see that thanks to funding we could extend from the initial 2 years to 4 years.09:35
Guest81rburton true, I'll see if they want to become a sponsor09:35
qschulzGuest81: remember also that the high majority of people involved in this project are not paid by the project but by companies working on the project (and I think the maintainer receives a bit of money for their effort in maintening LTSes)09:35
rburtonthe cash goes directly to things like paying for the LTS maintainer09:36
Guest81to be honest I expected big companies such as microsoft to fund these kind of projects as lots of devices in the world are running linux and linux is funded by microsoft...09:36
rburtonlol09:36
qschulzGuest81: we all wish big companies using FOSS would sponsor them, the reality of it is that most companies do not sponsor OSS projects (or at least not in a very sustainable way)09:36
rburtonwe'd really appreciate more smaller companies joining at the lower levels, many do just assume that the big companies pay for it all09:37
qschulzI don't know enough about the financial situation of Yocto so won't say more, but finances is a big issue in the FOSS world09:37
qschulz(I can also say that outside of sponsoring, having more contributors is also a good thing, any way we can have help is good :) )09:37
qschulz(this includes documentation too :) )09:37
Guest81thank you all of you for your hard work, i will bring this up for sure :)09:38
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qschulzi'll let rburton handle this now, he knows more than I do and you don't need two people telling you the same thing :)09:38
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rburtonGuest81: if you want to speak to someone about the perks of your company joining, even at the lowest tiers, then LetoThe2nd is the man to talk to :)09:39
LetoThe2ndrburton: literally as of one hour ago ;-)09:39
ndecLetoThe2nd: heh ;-)09:40
rburtonndec: do you feel that freedom? :)09:40
ndecyeah :)09:40
LetoThe2ndGuest81: indeed, as rburton put it - if you need ammunition or help in presenting YP to your company, I'm the one to talk to.09:41
Guest81LetoThe2nd thanks :) , will keep in touch (fingers crossed, it depends on the managers)09:43
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mischiefis there a list of sponsors? my company might already10:11
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LetoThe2ndmischief: https://www.yoctoproject.org/ecosystem/members/10:17
rburtonhttps://www.yoctoproject.org/ecosystem/members/10:17
rburtonbeaten by the pro10:17
LetoThe2ndbeat it!10:18
LetoThe2ndas we are talking about involvement - we also have the CFP open for the YPDD in Prague! https://summit.yoctoproject.org/devday-at-eoss-2023/cfp10:18
tomzy_0[m]LetoThe2nd: We will definitely send one or more CFPs from our company :) Do you have maybe some roughly estimates on how this event will look like? Other part from us will be at Xen Developer & Design Summit at the same day and we wonder how to manage to be on both.. kind of :D10:23
LetoThe2ndtomzy_0[m]: i *think* that it is essentially colocated and you can move in and out as much as you want :-)10:23
rburtonthe kvm summit was colocated last year but it was a separate payment, not sure how its being handled this year10:24
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LetoThe2ndseparate registration, separate fee, of course. (speakers are free at YPDD, though ;-) )10:25
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fabatera[m]Building a image with a bundled initramfs.11:43
fabatera[m]Kernel compilation happens twice: on do_compile and do_bundle_initramfs.11:43
fabatera[m]do_compile runs with -j20, while do_bundle_initramfs is not setting -j parameter, -j defaults to 1, which means serial execution (one thing at a time) and takes 40 minutes to finish11:43
rburtonthat's no fun11:44
rburtonzeddii: ^11:44
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zeddiiI already sent a patch for that. it is fixed here.12:10
zeddiiunless the patch isn't working, but it did in my testing and others confirmed it.12:10
rburtonfabatera[m]: what branch/release are you using? you might just need to update.12:10
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alessioigorzeddii: Could you pinpoint me to the commit, please?12:15
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zeddiihttps://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/topic/98269754#18000512:19
zeddiihttps://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=01f0a371b139d35a6f6f39fdd96f0d1a796684d712:19
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fabatera[m]thanks! I'm on kirkstone-next12:23
alessioigorzeddii: Thanks!12:24
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jonmasonIs Randy Macleod on here?  I'm having a senior moment and forgot his handle13:42
jonmasonvvmeson: Randy?13:45
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abellonijonmason: you have the correct nickname13:50
jonmasonabelloni: thanks13:50
jonmasonvvmeson: if you can send a bio for the yp tsc election in the next 30 mins, I'd appreciate it.....13:50
abelloniSteve Geary sent one on the 14th of apr13:57
abellonifor Randy ;)13:57
jonmasonI've just been looking on the OE members mailing list13:59
jonmasonabelloni: was that on a public list or for the YP TSC voting from before?14:01
abelloniYP members list14:01
jonmasonIt's not public.  So I don't think most people have access to that (and I seem to have gotten it second hand).14:03
jonmasonI'll include the text from it in the voting ballot, instead of the links I was planning on doing14:04
jonmasonjust need to dig up one for denix now, as I'm sure there is probably one out there somewhere14:04
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denixjonmason: Randy and I were still going to send our bios to the list15:13
denixabelloni: YP members list is extremely exclusive and closed list that you aren't even supposed to mention its existence... :)15:16
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landgrafNow we all know about this secret list existence! :D15:22
JaMathere is YP members as well? I know only about OE members list :)15:25
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vvmesonjonmason: oops, still needed?15:35
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vvmesonah, abelloni thanks and thanks to Steve Geary.15:36
jonmasonvvmeson: I decided to wait to give both of you a chance15:36
jonmasonCan you just mail the bio from before to the oe members list?15:36
jonmasonI'll put the url from the posting in the ballot15:36
jonmasondenix: can you please do the same?15:37
jonmasonI'll sent it out after lunch15:37
vvmesonjonmason:  digging/writing now.15:37
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denixjonmason: btw, you should have done this conversation in the #oe channel... :)15:40
denixlandgraf: JaMa: not so secret - https://www.yoctoproject.org/ecosystem/members/15:43
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vvmesonjonmason:  as I mentioned privately, I sent an update about an hour ago.17:21
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Guest48I need a little assistance. I've been working on a Yocto project for a Dell OptiPlex Micro 3000 based on the `Dunfell` branch (long story). I had a defect with the 3000 and after working with Dell they decided to send me a replacement but now the 3000 is discontinued. Instead they've sent a system that has a much newer NIC (I219-LM) which17:35
Guest48apparently isn't supported until linux kernel 5.7 (Dunfell is 5.4). This project is behind schedule as-is so I need to find the quickest remedy. I'm trying to create a recipe to install the latest e1000e drivers but I can't seem to get it to compile. It does `inherit module` (which I see sets the kernel headers path) but errors "Kernel header files17:35
Guest48not in any of the expected locations". I saw some SO questions saying to add `MACHINE_ESSENTIAL_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS += "kernel-modules"` but that made no difference. So far we haven't been building/using the SDK at all but it looks like that's a necessity for kernel module development, is it?17:35
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khemEntei: Zicr and Zifencei were moved out of base spec in 2.1 but they were part of base spec in 2.0 and LLVM implements 2.0 so they should be part of clang16 without any extentions unless you explicitly demand 2.1 spec via `-misa-spec`17:58
khemits a little hostile to users to do this but anyway it was done17:58
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Guest48Actually... I see what it's doing. The makefile for e1000e is hardcoded to get the kernel source based on a value derived from uname -r. I can't actually tell it to use the kernel source for Yocto18:51
rburtonyou can potentially override it when you call make19:00
rburtonor just hack it up with a patch :)19:01
rburtonBUILD_KERNEL=$(shell uname -r) ?19:01
rburtonjust add your own BUILD_KERNEL=... to EXTRA_OEMAKE19:02
mischiefwe are on the list (sort of), yay :)19:09
khemrburton: https://github.com/kraj/meta-clang/pull/791 is merged. Can I get a big fat "Yocto Compatible" Batch for meta-clang now 🙂19:13
rburtonkhem: we'll see if it actually passes first ;)19:13
khems/batch/badge19:13
khemI think that was a thorny one19:13
khemlast time I ran that was the only one left19:14
rburtonagreed. i'll run it again to check :)19:14
rburtoni had this weird behaviour earlier where bitbake was building clang despite toolchain not being set, so i wonder if something regressed19:14
Guest48I can override it with a different variable "KSRC", but now it's complaining that it can't find version.h. That's also overrideable too though so I guess I need to find the equivalent files19:17
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khemrburton: the next problem is overriding llvm from oe-core19:32
khem      Dependency on task clang/clang_git.bb:do_populate_sysroot:virtual:native was added with hash 7028b2d8f8f61266283da3ae4092e9fc0bffe00e9311886a9bb883d799b782d119:32
khem      Dependency on task llvm/llvm_git.bb:do_populate_sysroot:virtual:native was removed with hash 54920721975c79e1d79050c7779ca2265514cf4952df7a787c75bd8101c7289019:32
khemclang-native provides llvm-native as well19:32
khemmaybe I should give that up19:32
khemand let llvm be built from oe-core alone,19:33
khemthis will add yet another llvm copy to be built19:33
khemwe build I think 4 to 5 copies of llvm in OE today19:33
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khemrburton: if I use http://sprunge.us/tF8HLM. + https://github.com/kraj/meta-clang/pull/792 it passes see - http://sprunge.us/RjzTGs19:41
khem🙂19:41
khemI think there should be an exception allowed for meta-clang to override llvm from oe-core19:44
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Guest48Slowly making progress... I need to overwrite where the makefile is trying to install the drivers. I want it to install them into STAGING_KERNEL_BUILDDIR, right?19:57
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mischiefhm. seems like i can't cache bitbake code outside of docker container so that it persists between runs20:10
Guest48are you using a mounted volume to do it?20:10
mischiefhost bind mount20:11
mischiefor perhaps the issue is multiple instances of bitbake using the same directory20:11
mischiefinode mismatch: '/home/jenkins/bitbake-cache/bb_persist_data.sqlite3-wal' ino 109056935 in db, 109056933 in request.20:11
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TamisHello,  I am trying to use INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE = "GPL-3.0* LGPL-3.0* AGPL-3.0*" variable per-image recipe but it seems not to be working in kirkstone branch. When I' am putting into distro conf it restricts everything. But for some dev image recipes I want some *GPL-3* packages.  How should I do it?20:15
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mischiefi'm kinda surprised that psuedo even tracks this bitbake sqlite file20:20
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LetoThe2ndTamis: I'm pretty sure it works, tested it a couple of weeks back. What effect do you expect but are not seeing?20:29
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TamisLetoThe2nd: I added INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE ??= "GPL-3.0* LGPL-3.0* AGPL-3.0*" as weak variable into distro conf and in my dev image I set INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE = "" and added to IMAGE_INSTALL eg binutils. I immediately got an erorr that binutils cannot be build because is GPLv320:34
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LetoThe2ndTamis: that is kinda expected and makes sense from the evaluation point - not from the practical one, though.20:34
TamisLetoThe2nd: Right now I did something different to test. I used into distro.conf: INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE:release-image = "GPL-3.0* LGPL-3.0* AGPL-3.0*"20:38
TamisAnd I added again into release-image the binutils to test.20:38
TamisNow it started to build the whole release-image again. So I expect to see what will happen at the end. Will include binuitls into the image although is restricted?20:38
TamisLetoThe2nd: How you did the per-image INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE since you said that you tested it some weeks ago?20:39
LetoThe2ndTamis: the key is that per-image INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE only falls over if you actually have something in the image that would be incompatible. as long as stuff does not end up in the image, e.g. just needed for building, no problem.20:40
LetoThe2ndTamis: I usually add bash to IMAGE_INSTALL to make it go boom.20:41
TamisLetoThe2nd: You use INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE in distro/local.conf or directly into the image recipe? And do you override the parameter like INCOMPATIBLE_LICENSE:image_recipe?20:43
LetoThe2ndTamis: directly in the image. and if the build even starts, then you did something wrong, it should fail on the dependency tree evaluation already.20:44
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TamisLetoThe2nd: ty. I will test that also. But I think that directly into the image is not respected. Will see ...20:47
LetoThe2ndTamis: I'm pretty sure it is, but heading off for today. Ping me Monday plz :-)20:50
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Guest48Is there a macro to define the full path to the linux-${IMAGE}-standard-build directory? e.g. .../linux-yocto/5.4.237+gitAUTOINC+c7e2e52889_936721bc39-r0/linux-optiplex_micro_3000-standard-build I can't find one in the documentation20:56
TamisLetoThe2nd:Will do :). Have a nice weekend!20:57
mischiefnevermind, i guess it just doesn't work even without parallel bitbake21:01
sudipGuest48: try ${B}21:04
mischiefcan i just make psuedo ignore PERSISTENT_DIR somehow? i don't really get the impression psuedo needs to track it21:06
Tamismischief:Maybe add to PSEUDO_IGNORE_PATHS the PERSISTENT_DIR folder?21:12
rburtonkhem: make llvm a proper virtual and switch provider if toolchain=clang?21:12
Guest48sudip thanks, that helps for the recipe itself at least. I need to find another way to access it for `linux-yocto` though21:13
Tamismischief: Maybe add to PSEUDO_IGNORE_PATHS the PERSISTENT_DIR folder?21:14
mischiefwhere would i set that so that? right now i set PERSISTENT_DIR in auto.conf in CI21:17
mischiefaha21:19
mischiefPSEUDO_IGNORE_PATHS .= ",${DEPLOY_DIR},${BUILDHISTORY_DIR},${TOPDIR}/cache,${COREBASE}/scripts,${CCACHE_DIR}" is already in bitbake.conf21:19
mischiefso cache dir is indeed supposed to be ignored21:20
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Guest48What does `STAGING_KERNEL_DIR` actually equate to?21:21
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Guest48n/m. `STAGING_KERNEL_DIR` = tmp/work-shared/${IMAGE}/kernel-source21:32
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khemrburton: yeah seems a good way do you have some rough patch already ? I can try it on it and iron it for more testing22:08
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