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| AdrianTheFirst | JaMa, thanks for the help yesterday. We decided to go the route of disabling the version-going-backwards globally for now, rather than taking the more complicated route of setting up a PR_service. | 06:11 |
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| AdrianTheFirst | Our Yocto build on the build server start from scratch most of the time, so the version history is lost. | 06:12 |
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| JaMa | khem: https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/oe/patch/20230515113620.42510-2-Martin.Jansa@gmail.com/ might be still needed, but lets see the oe-core fix from rburton first | 06:43 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 06:46 |
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| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LetoThe2nd | 07:15 | |
| *** ChanServ changes topic to "Welcome to the Yocto Project | Learn more: https://www.yoctoproject.org | Join us or Speak at Yocto Project Developer Day at Prague, June 26th 2023: https://summit.yoctoproject.org/devday-at-eoss-2023/cfp | Join the community: https://www.yoctoproject.org/community | IRC logs available at https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/ | Having difficulty on the list or with someone on the list, c" | 07:15 | |
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| *** ChanServ changes topic to ""Welcome to the Yocto Project | Learn more: https://www.yoctoproject.org | Join us or Speak at Yocto Project Developer Day at Prague, June 26th 2023: https://summit.yoctoproject.org/devday-at-eoss-2023/cfp | Join the community: https://www.yoctoproject.org/community | IRC logs: https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/ | Having difficulty on the list or with someone on the list, contact YP CM Le" | 07:18 | |
| *** ChanServ changes topic to ""Welcome to the Yocto Project | Learn more: https://www.yoctoproject.org | Join us or Speak at Yocto Project Developer Day at Prague, June 26th 2023: https://summit.yoctoproject.org/devday-at-eoss-2023/cfp | Community: https://www.yoctoproject.org/community | IRC logs: https://www.yoctoproject.org/irc/ | Having difficulty on the list or with someone on the list, contact YP CM Letothe2nd"" | 07:18 | |
| LetoThe2nd | I fit the topic in! YAY! | 07:18 |
| svuorela | you just need a shorter name :P | 07:20 |
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| LetoThe2nd | svuorela: indeed. maybe I should call myself "L". | 07:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | OTOH, the CFP link for Prague is just too long... | 07:27 |
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| svuorela | LetoThe2nd: oh. there is also quotes around topic. That seems unneeded | 07:36 |
| LetoThe2nd | yup indeed. | 07:37 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: we need a URL shortener: yp.dev | 07:51 |
| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: LOL I'm just one week in and my first thought is "Not another thing to care about!" | 07:52 |
| LetoThe2nd | is that a good sign, or not? | 07:52 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: hehehe :) | 07:53 |
| qschulz | prioritizing stuff is a good thing :) | 07:53 |
| LetoThe2nd | ya | 07:54 |
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| Guest45 | is the git.yoctoproject.org server down? I'm getting fetcher errors and doing a: git clone git@git.yoctoproject.org:pseudo -b oe-core just freezes? | 09:22 |
| mcfrisk | Guest45: git access works for me, server responds on time | 09:25 |
| Guest45 | mcfrisk: thanks for testing, strange, I'm not getting anything through the git protocol from two different servers, https works fine though... | 09:27 |
| mcfrisk | Guest45: try https protocol, it's recommended nowadays | 09:31 |
| Guest45 | @mcfr | 09:38 |
| Guest45 | mcfrisk: anyway to set the default protocol? The recipe I'm having problems fetching is https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/pseudo/pseudo_git.bb?h=dunfell | 09:38 |
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| mcfrisk | Guest45: add ";protocol=https" to the SRC_URI line. Looks like poky commit 1285f78ce861a92dbb99f476b49499574259e615 is not yet applied in dunfell branch. | 09:42 |
| Guest45 | mcfrisk: ok, thanks for you help! | 09:43 |
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| Guest98 | i have a question about emmc write but it's related with yocto and emmc knowledge. may i ask? rookiee here O_O | 10:58 |
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| rburton | feel free to ask | 10:59 |
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| Guest98 | I'm trying to write the image created in imx8mq(coral dev board) board to emmc. By the way, using "meta-coral(zeus)". Encountering the following error: | 10:59 |
| Guest98 | https://pastebin.com/ya5q9bzU | 10:59 |
| Guest98 | After investigating the problem, people said that these partitions should not be read only mode. I did the following step to get it out of read-only mode. | 10:59 |
| Guest98 | https://pastebin.com/VsyJhagu | 10:59 |
| Guest98 | When i reboot, the configurations are gone. How can i get an image installed on the sd card to be uploaded to emmc when i insert it into the device? emmc is working with mendel os but not working with yocto. | 10:59 |
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| qschulz | Guest98: this is something that needs to be done on each boot as this is an eMMC controller configuration AFAIR | 11:42 |
| qschulz | so do the echo before this copy is done | 11:42 |
| qschulz | highly recommend doing only one at a time | 11:42 |
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| qschulz | and properly switch the eMMC boot partition to use for booting when flashing one | 11:43 |
| qschulz | so that if you have a power loss during a flash of boot partition 0, you boot from boot partition 1 next try | 11:43 |
| qschulz | at least less likely to be completely bricked | 11:43 |
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| Guest98 | qschulz It's hard to be a rookie :D. I will try to understand what you say and try to do something. Thank you! | 11:46 |
| qschulz | Guest98: https://manpages.debian.org/testing/mmc-utils/mmc.1.en.html#bootpart | 11:48 |
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| d-s-e | Hey, I try to build a rust application with yocto, but it fails with "error running rustfmt: Os { code: 2, kind: NotFound, message: "No such file or directory" }". Any ideas? | 12:48 |
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| rburton | d-s-e: looks like you need a dependency on whatever provides rustfmt? (note: i've never done rust) | 13:14 |
| d-s-e | maybe. rustfmt is available on the build host, but it seems not to be used. I also tried to add a a rustfmt recipe that fails with lots of errors (I'm not really into rust either). | 13:18 |
| rburton | tools on the build host are not visible unless they're in HOSTTOOLS | 13:19 |
| rburton | rustfmt appears to be part of the rust recipe, so dunno | 13:20 |
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| d-s-e | so I could simply append it to HOSTTOOLS? | 13:23 |
| d-s-e | part of the rust recipe? | 13:24 |
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| d-s-e | WTH is canadian? I see several packages with that in the name!? | 13:30 |
| jbo | Hey guys, I am currently trying to get a custom board running. So far everything works. But I am struggling with the sound. I put an SSM2603 on the board. It's connected over I2C and to I2S0 of the SAMA5D. I am really lost on the DTS setup for this. Would anybody be willing to give me a hand? | 13:33 |
| rburton | d-s-e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_compiler#Canadian_Cross | 13:35 |
| d-s-e | rburton: thanks, very confusing. The rustfmt is part of the rust-tools-cross-canadian recipe, so does this mean, it will not be build to run natively on the build host? | 13:47 |
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| rburton | you'd do better waiting for someone who understands how rust is built to get back to you. that recipe doesn't even exist in mickledore. | 13:49 |
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| d-s-e | thanks anyway, rust looks like a very strange half-baked thing to me so far. I'm on kirkstone. | 13:51 |
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| rburton | yeah the rust recipes got rewritten post-kirkstone. there's a mixin layer with modern rust in if you want that instead. | 13:53 |
| rburton | https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-lts-mixins/log/?h=kirkstone/rust-1.68 | 13:53 |
| d-s-e | ah ok, maybe that's why it's so hard :) I will have a look at that. | 13:54 |
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| Peter[m]123 | Hi all, I'm curious what the 2023 opinion is of the gold linker / "ld-is-gold" DISTRO_FEATURE. I'm currently evaluating it internally (at Arm) and seeing very promising results, particularly in terms of memory usage when linking large cpp binaries. Would you consider patches to exercise it on the autobuilder, or even enable it by default (for supported architectures)? | 14:05 |
| JaMa | Peter[m]123: I'm still using it for historical reasons in some of my builds, but lld seems to be much better alternative nowadays | 14:06 |
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| rburton | lld would be if you've switch to clang too, right | 14:10 |
| JaMa | gold will also cause TMPDIR (buildpaths) QA issues everywhere, see https://github.com/openembedded/meta-openembedded/issues/675#issuecomment-1505557372 | 14:12 |
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| rburton | someone should write a little lld recipe that builds just lld and test that | 14:17 |
| rburton | then again i've got a branch that adds and uses mold, switching linkers is never fun | 14:17 |
| JaMa | or mold :) | 14:17 |
| fbre | Hi, maybe a special question of the SoC I use, but is it possible to map parts of the L1 oder L2 cache as heap within Linux, just for having fast RAM? | 14:17 |
| LetoThe2nd | fbre: there are things like MLOCK, and cache locking when it comes to RT and nanoseconds - everything else is definitely premature overoptimization, and your problem is somewhere else. | 14:19 |
| rburton | reducing the amount of L1 cache for "performance" seems like the wrong thing to do :) | 14:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: there are rare circumstances where you can trade it for determinism. but yeah, generally such makes your system not faster, but slower - albeit more predictably slower :-) | 14:21 |
| fray | only devices I know of that use on-board cache as RAM, do it as a short-term quick-boot strategy, then they configure actual dram 'late' so they can stage device startup (which can take longer then ram config) earlier | 14:23 |
| fray | but that is really specialized stuff.. and as someone said, the wrong way to optimize.. | 14:23 |
| JaMa | In my usecase I would prefer surprisingly fast over predictably slow :) | 14:23 |
| rburton | lol | 14:23 |
| fbre | the firmware I develop has an algorithm module which computes 10 times faster with such fast RAM. It works well on an DSP and its operationg system (SysBios) where the cache can be mapped as fast heap. Now we are porting to Linux and I come across this question. | 14:24 |
| Peter[m]123 | JaMa/rburton: We already depend on meta-clang (for bindgen) in our project, so I'll give ld-is-lld a test drive. Thanks. | 14:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | https://bootlin.com/doc/training/preempt-rt/preempt-rt-slides.pdf page 113 ff, in case you are interested. | 14:26 |
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| fbre | So I read your answers as "no, we don't know how to map the cache as another heap", right? | 14:34 |
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| rburton | fbre: you're asking an incredibly specific question on the general yocto project support channel | 14:43 |
| fbre | yes, it's true, I should ask in the SoC forum, but I just wanted to know if Linux allows such mapping of hardware components to own heaps with own address ranges | 14:44 |
| fbre | ...which is a general question independent of the hardware | 14:45 |
| fbre | as I said, the TI operating system (Sys BIOS) has that feature of mapping the L1 and L2 cache hardware to special heap address ranges. This makes things so fast on a DSP. World is turning and so we have to get that working on Linux too | 14:47 |
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| fbre | ... on the DSP you separate the actual algorithm firmware module from the maintenance system | 14:48 |
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| fbre | ...for which controlling fast heap makes much sense that way | 14:49 |
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| fbre | Thanx anyway, I'll ask in the SoC forum | 14:50 |
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| khem | rburton: lld would need llvm backend to be available for build, technically we can repurpose the llvm recipe in oe-core to provide that and then have a recipe for lld, however if you use meta-clang then it lld comes by default as part of tool suite and all you need is ls-is-lld in DISTRO_FEATURES 🙂 | 15:39 |
| khem | err ld-is-lld | 15:40 |
| khem | I have been using it in yoe distro for a long time now | 15:40 |
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| khem | mold is inder AGPL-3 hmmm interesting | 15:59 |
| jbo | Hey guys, I'm running into an issue where I do "bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel". change settings, then same them. then do a build and the settings are reverted next time. I did not have this problem before my meta-custom layer added a patch for a DTS. is there something obvious I am missing? | 16:00 |
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| smurray | khem: heh, I saw your discussion about lld and was wondering about the current state of mold myself | 16:06 |
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| rburton | mold is 'interesting' | 16:16 |
| rburton | in my lame testing, it wasn't hugely faster | 16:16 |
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| jbo | Guys, is there any magic to having a persistent custom kernel config in my own layer? I have meta-custom/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-mchp_6.1.22.bbappend. In there, I have an SRC_URI:append = "file://defconfig" and in the same directory I have "defconfig". However, changes do not seem to apply. | 16:30 |
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| dario | do you have a line like FILESEXTRAPATHS:prepend := "${THISDIR}:" or similar? | 16:52 |
| dario | iirc if anything, only the files/ subdir is automatically added to the files search path | 16:52 |
| jbo | yes, I have that | 16:55 |
| jbo | I am still investigating | 16:55 |
| jbo | the documentation mentions ${THISDIR}/${PN}: instead. I am not sure yet what ${PN} actually is. | 16:55 |
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| khem | rburton: mold has a commercial offering called sold 🙂 so I guess thats the play | 17:05 |
| dario | jbo: the package name, i guess it's a matter of taste/repo organization which one you choose | 17:06 |
| jbo | aye, I think I got it working now. I removed some stuff, compiled the image and stuff seems to be gone. also doing a bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel now shows those options disabled | 17:07 |
| dario | i guess in general bitbake -e [recipename] | less lets you search whether it includes all the files you expect it to | 17:08 |
| jbo | I think I never struggled with something as much as getting this SSM2603 codec to show up as a device under ALSA. I still don't have it working. I don't understand the DTS :D | 17:09 |
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| rburton | khem: yeah | 18:31 |
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| LetoThe2nd | what is the strategy for cargo dependencies in rust (kirkstone)? write a recipe each? | 19:45 |
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| jbo | hmm... is there a driver somewhere for the Quectel-EC25? | 20:18 |
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| kergoth | Ugh, getting a no provider message with no info on what depended on it, so no idea what's pulling it into the build with the wrong provider dep | 22:21 |
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