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| mckoan | good morning | 06:28 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 07:14 |
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| PhoenixMage | 'sup Leto | 08:20 |
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| qschulz | jclsn: /buffer 11 | 08:36 |
| qschulz | jclsn: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/contributor-guide/submit-changes.html | 08:37 |
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| ptsneves | Do i understand right that the code in https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/classes/useradd.bbclass#n125 is redundant because the useradd_sysroot only runs for target recipes and the class sets DEPENDS:append:class-target = " base-files shadow-native shadow-sysroot shadow base-passwd". Is there any case i am missing where the DEPENDS are not honored, like in an image recipe? | 09:13 |
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| rburton | PhoenixMage: set the password to a string you assign using python's secret library | 09:47 |
| PhoenixMage | rburton: Cheers, I'll look into it | 09:50 |
| qschulz | tlwoerner: thanks for the merge of rk3588 support back to kirkstone <3 | 09:57 |
| PhoenixMage | Damn, that reminds me I need to resend my patch for the rk3568 stuff | 09:59 |
| PhoenixMage | tlwoerner: Did you get a chance to test the ethernet with the yocto-dev kernel in master? | 10:01 |
| PhoenixMage | Pretty sure the ethernet wont work in the kirkstone unless you run a custom kernel | 10:01 |
| PhoenixMage | I havent tested master, all my stuff is kirkstone | 10:02 |
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| Rich_1234 | I have a core-image-weston with Chromium. I need to adjust my clock time to access certain pages. I don't have hwclock or timedatectl. Easiest solution? Does Busybox provide things for time adjustment? | 11:59 |
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| landgraf | Rich_1234: data? | 12:09 |
| landgraf | Rich_1234: date ? | 12:09 |
| PhoenixMage | Busybox has a rudementary hwclock I think | 12:12 |
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| rburton | kanavin: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/-/merge_requests/3636 promises to be fun if you've not seen it already | 12:55 |
| kanavin | rburton, hopefully we can neatly sidestep this by building glib-native as the 'first step' instead of building glib twice | 12:56 |
| rburton | i expect that won't be sufficient but you never know | 12:57 |
| rburton | shout if you look at it because its on my todo list but i doubt i'll do that today | 12:57 |
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| Rich_1234 | landgraf, yeah date is set to march 9th | 12:59 |
| Rich_1234 | the actual time I think is fine | 13:00 |
| landgraf | Rich_1234: date -s 'Mon Oct 16 15:00:33' | 13:02 |
| Rich_1234 | landgraf I will give that a go, cheers | 13:02 |
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| Rich_1234 | landgraf date did work thanks, just had to do date -s '2023-10-16 ab:xx:xx' | 13:30 |
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| danlor | Hi! Has anyone had issues when installing ca-certificates-java into the image? The update-ca-certificates java hook is failing when executing the postinstall (ca-certificates postinstall is being executed before ca-certificates-java). I'm on Kirkstone, but ca-certificates and ca-certificates-java don't seem to have changed since. I've not been able | 13:51 |
| danlor | to find anything related to this. | 13:51 |
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| jclsn | qschulz: Thx, will have a look | 14:46 |
| jclsn | I already sent a request, but I think I forgot to sign off the commit | 14:47 |
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| danlor | Okey, it only fails when PACKAGE_CLASSES = "package_deb" | 16:09 |
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| Chocky | Greetings! | 16:24 |
| Chocky | I have a custom fetch setup for a recipe in kirkstone. During the unpack phase, but not in the actual unpack step itself, the contents of my src directory get erased. Trying to track down the code that does this. What am I missing? | 16:25 |
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| RP | Chocky: base.bbclass do_unpack[cleandirs] = "${@d.getVar('S') if os.path.normpath(d.getVar('S')) != os.path.normpath(d.getVar('WORKDIR')) else os.path.join('${S}', 'patches')}" | 16:27 |
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| Chocky | Ah. That's some funky logic, but thanks. | 16:28 |
| RP | Chocky: do_unpack[cleandirs] = "" in your recipe would likely avoid it :) | 16:29 |
| Chocky | indeed. | 16:29 |
| Chocky | I did OpenWrt for many many years; Yocto still has a lot of weird corners for me. | 16:30 |
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| bhstalel | Chocky Yocto will be your best friend. | 16:31 |
| * Chocky blames fullstop | 16:32 | |
| Chocky | well, I doubt that, but I owner many sized hammers. | 16:32 |
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| RP | Chocky: I am a little curious on where you notice the big differences and if there are things we should be doing differently | 16:36 |
| Chocky | Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to start a philosophy way or anything, and in the end they, and Linux are just tools. A boss of my mine many decades ago was Phil Blundell, who founded OpenEmbedded stuff my history with this stuff goes back quite a ways. | 16:37 |
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| Chocky | The biggest obvious difference between OpenWrt and Yocto is that the former uses a common staging area, but Yocto puts all the build stuff in a per-recipe build directory. There's pros and cons to each. | 16:38 |
| RP | Chocky: Right, I'm not trying to get into the philosophy discussion! :) I do sometimes wonder if we can make things easier in places though so I try and have an open mind. Clearing do_unpack before we start does conceptually make sense as you then start from empty each time | 16:39 |
| Chocky | What I can certainly say is that for my co-workers coming to Yocto from non-Linux backgrounds, it's extraordinarily difficult to track down issues. That's partly due to the nature of how cross compiling has to work. I don't have any good answers to that. | 16:39 |
| RP | As you say, there are pros and cons to recipe vs common staging areas | 16:39 |
| Chocky | I think OpenWrt is fantastic, but it's also understaffed, especially security and things. | 16:40 |
| RP | Chocky: I did work with pb_ and miss some of his input... | 16:40 |
| RP | and yes, cross compiling is a pain | 16:41 |
| Chocky | You may also remember Wookey; someone else I used to work a lot with. | 16:41 |
| RP | Chocky: yes, rburton works with him | 16:41 |
| Chocky | "Wookey, only one name, and it's the second one" | 16:42 |
| rburton | amusingly, the orgchart claims that wookey is known as '.' | 16:43 |
| RP | Chocky: there is only one wookey :) | 16:44 |
| Chocky | I'd like to see a menuconfig in Yocto (beyond the Linux kernel), but perhaps that's impractical - one of the downsides in OpenWrt is that if you make targets for multiple platforms, they really all need to be identical in term of packages. | 16:44 |
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| bhstalel | Why RECIPE_SYSROOT is not in variables documentation ?? | 16:45 |
| rburton | bhstalel: patches welcome | 16:45 |
| Chocky | I'm also seeing Zephyr, which is of course not Linux, but it's taking a lot of cues from Linux build systems. | 16:45 |
| rburton | (because variables get added without remembering to update the docs) | 16:45 |
| bhstalel | I am thinking to add it, of course, but I thought it was intentional or something | 16:45 |
| rburton | nope | 16:46 |
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| RP | Chocky: there are layers to let you build zephyr with YP | 16:47 |
| Chocky | I guess you can build anything with anything if you try hard enough. I certainly have at times | 16:49 |
| RP | Chocky: whilst we primarily do linux you can build firmware, rt systems and all sorts. It is just code... | 16:51 |
| bhstalel | Help me with this, when I send patches and some reviews are done and I need to change something, do I need always to reset the commit and recreate the patch again ? | 16:56 |
| bhstalel | Is there a way to tell git to apply the new commit to the latest commit as well and then recreate the patch ? | 16:57 |
| rburton | look up git commit --amend | 16:57 |
| rburton | or rebase | 16:57 |
| rburton | personally i'll have a branch in progress with commits like "do something", "fix", "arghghhg", "OK I HATE COMPUTERS" but when it works i do an interactive rebase and squash/reword the commits to hide the rage | 16:58 |
| bhstalel | The issue is, I sent a patch, then I worked on something else, then modifications are needed in old commit, | 16:58 |
| Chocky | RP: Yeah, I know. Although sometimes could != should. | 16:58 |
| rburton | bhstalel: feature branches and rebasing. one branch per "feature". | 16:58 |
| bhstalel | So, I create a branch for each, let's say, patch that I intend to commit | 16:59 |
| rburton | well, feature, not patch. if that feature is one patch the fine, but it might be a series of related patches | 16:59 |
| rburton | like https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/refs/ | 16:59 |
| bhstalel | Yes, that's what I meant, that will do it | 17:00 |
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| Chocky | One other flaw with OpenWrt is that whilst it's possible to add files to the final image, that you have staged externally, it's not possible to remove files unless you hack in some post-processing or something. | 17:00 |
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| fullstop | Chocky: I did nothing wrong! | 17:08 |
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| Guest67 | hi all.. there was a switch for bitbake that lists the provider for virtual/kernel. I can't seem to remember it and can't find it onine. Just wondering if anyone else remembers | 18:46 |
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| sudip | Guest67: try "bitbake-getvar PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel" | 18:52 |
| Guest67 | thanks thats a totally new command I didnt know about | 18:55 |
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| sudip | I am trying to upgrade rpm, with the new version its now using cmake and I can see the configure step is failing to find libm.so. I checked the current v4.18.1 and could not find libm.so in recipe-sysroot-native. is the current rpm build using libm from the host ? | 19:15 |
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| sudip | missed saying rpm-native is failing. | 19:20 |
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| sudip | The -lm is being mentioned by lua.pc and that also says "libdir=${pcfiledir}/../../../usr/lib" which is "recipe-sysroot-native/usr/lib/" so libm should be here. | 19:38 |
| khem | sudip: which version are you upgrading to. | 19:42 |
| sudip | 4.19.0 | 19:43 |
| sudip | but my confusion is with the build of the current version | 19:43 |
| khem | it needs it from uninative I guess | 19:44 |
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| sudip | but then shouldn't the path be mentioned in LD_FLAGS ? | 19:45 |
| sudip | only reference to uninative I can see is with "dynamic-linker" | 19:46 |
| sudip | unless "dynamic-linker" knows the path already. | 19:48 |
| khem | what is pcfiledir pointing to ? | 19:54 |
| khem | its normal to use libm from host btw. | 19:55 |
| khem | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/yRlY2cUF/ | 19:57 |
| khem | this is what I see on my rpm-native 4.18.1 | 19:57 |
| sudip | hmm. mine is having libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 | 19:59 |
| * sudip gets back to the logs again. | 20:04 | |
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| khem | I guess you are on debian-like system which should be fine | 20:09 |
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| sudip | yes, on Debian. | 20:20 |
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| RP | rburton: you sometimes hate things? :) | 20:56 |
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| mischief | is it possible to get timing statistics for all tasks in all recipes? | 21:23 |
| RP | mischief: have you looked at the buildstats data? | 21:28 |
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| mischief | RP: ah, forgot about this. thanks! | 22:09 |
| mischief | wonder why do many do_configures take forever. | 22:10 |
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| RP | mischief: single threaded and the reautoconf is slow | 22:47 |
| mischief | isn't there a way to accelerate gnu autoconf somehow? | 23:04 |
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| khem | sometime ago I did some time mesurements, configure tasks took around 20% of total build time for a scratch build | 23:28 |
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| mischief | i asked because our builds normally take 10 minute, and thats with sstate | 23:32 |
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| khem | 10mins to image is fast | 23:35 |
| khem | and with sstate there should be less configure tasks executed | 23:36 |
| khem | depending on amount of sstate reuse | 23:36 |
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| mischief | khem: yes, i'm saying even in the optimal case of the highest possible hit rate for sstate, it still takes 10 minutes :-) | 23:45 |
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