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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 07:46 |
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| mckoan | LetoThe2nd: hi | 07:55 |
| alessioigor | Good morning! | 08:01 |
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| mckoan | alessioigor: ciao | 08:03 |
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| alessioigor | mckoan: ciao Marco | 08:04 |
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| alperak | for a recipe and I need to give the value __STDC_VERSION__ to a compile option in cmake. can I get this from somewhere or have to give it hardcoded? | 13:12 |
| alperak | CMakeLists.txt: https://pastebin.com/Fkhnx4cG | 13:13 |
| rburton | wtf why | 13:17 |
| rburton | is that jasper? | 13:17 |
| alperak | yes | 13:18 |
| rburton | what bit of "preprocessor" symbol do the not understand | 13:19 |
| rburton | you don't need to run code to get a preprocessor value | 13:19 |
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| rburton | alperak: if you just echo __STDC_VERSION__>stdctest.c and then ${CPP} -P stdctest.c you'll get the value. | 13:27 |
| rburton | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/RQU9t0Jb/ | 13:27 |
| alperak | rburton thank you! | 13:28 |
| rburton | alperak: moaned in https://github.com/jasper-software/jasper/issues/366 | 13:32 |
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| RP | kanavin_: I did think about a simple experiment for this sigs issue. Run a build with a clean sstate and run the test. Then backdate the timestamps on all the sstate files. Then rerun the tests and check it updates all the stamps | 14:05 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: I can try that | 14:09 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: but why backdate the timestamps separately? if I note the clock before running the test for the second time, I'd be able to tell if the timestamps are updated? | 14:19 |
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| RP | kanavin_: fair enough. I guess I was just thinking it would make it more obvious | 14:21 |
| wmills_ | rburton: Last week you said you thought you had seen the hashserve timeout warnings. If that happens again please record the conditions in this bug report: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15306 | 14:35 |
| rburton | yeah will do, i saw that | 14:36 |
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| kanavin_ | RP: collect_spdx_deps is not updated, but everything else is | 14:51 |
| RP | wmills_: I know zeddii was running into this. If you're able I've put a potential problematic set of commits into the bug which it would be good to narrow things down to if possible | 14:52 |
| RP | kanavin_: I wonder why that one was somehow special | 14:53 |
| zeddii | yah. I was seeing the exact same thing. I'll update with what I tried for debug. | 14:53 |
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| wmills_ | RP: I did put the good commit and bad commit in the bug report but : 1) they are 1 month apart and 2) are from poky. | 15:31 |
| wmills_ | I guess I could do the branch point for nanbield. I assume the issue is after that | 15:32 |
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| JPEW | wmills_: What's your build host? | 15:33 |
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| wmills_ | see the bug report it is all recorded in more detail than I can repeat bit by bit here | 15:35 |
| speeder | hello, I am newbie. I need to use "perf", seemly it is part of the SDK, but the SDK seemly is a tool to compile yocto... or I am wrong and the sdk is also part of poky itself? (as in... install things inside poky, not just on my dev machine) | 15:36 |
| JPEW | I wonder if the code restructuing has resulting in some sneaky extra sync() calls with sqlite | 15:40 |
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| wmills_ | speeder: if you want the full sdk look for the core-images that end in _sdk. You can also just add the tools you need to your image of choice. Look at the image defs for the _sdk images for cluses how to do that | 15:41 |
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| wmills_ | JPEW or anyone, how bug is the timeout I have not looked. One question I am wondering is this: Is the longer build times with the bug a cause or an effect of the timeout | 15:44 |
| JPEW | The longer build time is an effect of the timeout | 15:45 |
| JPEW | So we need to fix the timeout and that will fix the build times | 15:45 |
| wmills_ | Can I set hashserve to none or something to test that? | 15:45 |
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| JPEW | wmills_: Ya, but you'll get pretty poor sstate usage without it | 15:47 |
| JPEW | wmills_: Also, I'm pretty sure you won't get timeouts if there is no contact with the server :0 | 15:49 |
| JPEW | :) | 15:49 |
| wmills_ | JPEW: These builds are starting with zero sstate so I don't think I would lose much. Yes the idea would be to compare the build times between the "good" and "bad" commit w/o the effect of the timeouts | 15:51 |
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| JPEW | wmills_: Ya, in that case if you set `BB_SIGNATURE_HANDLER = "OEBasicHash"` in local.conf it will disable hash equivalence | 15:52 |
| rburton | speeder: add dbg-pkgs to IMAGE_FEATURES to get the symbols, and perf to IMAGE_INSTALL to install perf. you don't need special images. | 15:52 |
| rburton | and yes there is overlap between the usage of 'sdk' | 15:53 |
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| JPEW | Ah, I think I know the problem | 15:54 |
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| wmills_ | JPEW: if you push a test patch somewhere I can test it. I have not replaced that HD yet just for this purpsoe. | 15:57 |
| JPEW | Yep | 15:57 |
| JPEW | wmills_: poky ok or do you want bitbake? | 15:58 |
| wmills_ | poky is actually prefered | 15:58 |
| JPEW | wmills_: K | 15:58 |
| wmills_ | fewer changes to what I am doing already | 15:58 |
| wmills_ | JPEW: Im off for a few hours, I will check back later | 16:00 |
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| JPEW | wmills_, rburton, zeddii: 264b8d564848590c1a4670b7468e0ca5b5092387 in poky-contrib should be the fix. Patch is also on the ML | 16:06 |
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| * zeddii tests | 16:11 | |
| joekale | Hello! I was reading this blog post from lucaceresoli https://bootlin.com/blog/simplest-yocto-layer-meta-kiss/ and was curious if there was a good reference for the "bad" Yocto/OE coding and the better way of doing some of the things he mentions and more. | 16:11 |
| rburton | JPEW: awesome | 16:12 |
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| rburton | vmeson: thanks for updating the wiki to mark mickledore as EOL. I just got to disable our scheduled mickledore builds :) | 16:42 |
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| RP | JPEW: that looks like something we should fast track! | 17:37 |
| JPEW | RP: Ya. It makes perfect sense to explain the problem, so I'm pretty confident that is the correct fix | 17:38 |
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| RP | JPEW, kanavin_: I've been looking at this hash issue a little bit more. I'm starting to think there is a timing race where a hash equivalence is added part way through a build. The "trail" of siginfo files left if an x86_64 worker changes the hashes in an aarch64 build, mid build may get 'intetesting' ? | 17:57 |
| * RP can kind of see how it is happening but hard to articulate | 17:59 | |
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| kanavin_ | RP: I was planning to see how x86_64 worker can influence native builds on aarch64 workers, but I'm for now rewriting the logic in printdiff as written in the last comment in the bug. It's going well, just needs more testing and fixing up the tests, and confirming that it does indeed resolve the issue where needed siginfo files never even appear. | 18:00 |
| RP | kanavin_: I hadn't noticed tht comment, it is an interesting idea. I need to think about that! :) | 18:03 |
| RP | I would like to better understand the case this breaks down, even if just to work out a test case | 18:03 |
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| vmeson | rburton: np. it still feels odd to have most of the releases only supported for 6-7 months and have the LTS releaes supported for 4 years... | 18:45 |
| khem | vmeson: I see three types of users one who are rolling with main dev tree, second who are rolling at a slower pace and need a stable base, third who are even slower or perhaps do not want to upgrade and want a stable release until their products EOL and basically thats what you see. 4 years is what seemed to fit the Yocto project members usecase most | 18:48 |
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| wmills_ | JPEW: I clean build from your commit gets 0 warnings. The build time is 8869 Sec which is a lot better but not great compared to the old commit. That is probably a different issue. | 19:28 |
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| halstead | khem: All the fedora workers are running kernel 6.3.3 now. | 19:48 |
| zeddii | wmills: I'm also seeing a slower build, but no warnings. | 20:00 |
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| gmorell | hmm, I'm attempting to get this perl package (munin) built for a cross compile and I'm having issues where the architectures of the builder and target are stepping on each other with libmodule-build-perl-native | 20:19 |
| gmorell | all the resource I've found in regards to building perl are out of date | 20:20 |
| gmorell | and I was wondering if there was something obvious I was missing | 20:20 |
| rburton | perl and cross is "fun" and its entirely possible that munim just ignores the entire problem and gets it wrong | 20:21 |
| rburton | paging moto-timo who may have some insights as he can read perl | 20:21 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: I don't see "munin" on metacpan.org... i see a couple related packages... but anyway, look at other recipes in oe-core and meta-perl for some of the additional variables that may need to be set like EXTRA_CPANFLAGS or EXTRA_PERLFLAGS | 20:27 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: we'll need more info to help further (pastebin the recipe, errors/log)... but no promises | 20:28 |
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| gmorell | moto-timo: https://github.com/munin-monitoring/munin munin from here, I'll pastebin the recipe once I've tested adding the deps it's trying to install from cpan to use https://github.com/rehsack/meta-cpan/tree/master | 20:30 |
| moto-timo | I would not advise using meta-cpan from github... it is very different way of doing recipes and not "The Yocto Way" | 20:31 |
| moto-timo | look at meta-openembedded/meta-perl for better practices. | 20:31 |
| moto-timo | e.g you will have great difficulty regenerating newer recipes for meta-cpan and get frustrated | 20:32 |
| gmorell | sec lemme pastebin my bb | 20:32 |
| gmorell | https://gist.github.com/gmorell/e3665996b3bb2246dfd61ba80c4a4c98 | 20:35 |
| gmorell | using libmodule-build-perl / tiny editions gives me an error that it "Can't locate Module/Build.pm in @INC" | 20:37 |
| gmorell | the -native one fails with "| Cwd.c: loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got handshake key 0xeb00080, needed 0xcd00080) | 20:38 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: looking at the Build.PL (which you properly noticed means "inherit cpan_build") shows there are a lot more (R)DEPENDS. https://github.com/munin-monitoring/munin/blob/master/Build.PL#L106 | 20:38 |
| gmorell | so is the move here that I add recipes for those that don't exist w/in m-oe/meta-perl | 20:39 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: that errror is because libmodule-build-perl is not in Perl 5.x itself any longer, so you need DEPENDS libmodule-build-perl-native | 20:40 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: not RDEPENDS (that's _runtime_ not _build time_) | 20:40 |
| moto-timo | oh you have that | 20:41 |
| moto-timo | I'd first try moving the inherit line earlier (before DEPENDS and RDEPENDS) and I don't think you need anything except libmodule-build-perl-native in DEPENDS (the rest is in the classes already). Look at other recipes in meta-perl for the order of the variables... you've got things like SRC_URI etc a bit later than is usually done. | 20:43 |
| alperak | clear | 20:43 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: also, which release of Yocto Project are you working on? dunfell? kirkstone? master? | 20:44 |
| gmorell | kirkstone | 20:44 |
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| gmorell | no change post-shuffle, updated paste, still complaining about: "loadable library and perl binaries are mismatched (got handshake key 0xeb00080, needed 0xcd00080) " | 20:52 |
| moto-timo | 'bitbake -c devshell munin' and output of 'which perl'? | 20:53 |
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| moto-timo | it sounds like you are getting host contamination... which is probably something bad in their Build.PL script maybe. | 20:54 |
| gmorell | /home/bitbake/cache/tmp/work/cortexa53-poky-linux/munin/git-r0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin/perl-native/perl | 20:54 |
| moto-timo | ok, at least it's not being stupid and picking up host Perl. | 20:54 |
| moto-timo | try 'perl Build.PL' in that devshell environment... same error? | 20:55 |
| moto-timo | if so, then there's perhaps a library that needs to be passed in with CFLAGS maybe | 20:55 |
| moto-timo | this is not likely to be a simple recipe, FWIW. | 20:56 |
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| gmorell | not the same error it seems, updated gist | 20:59 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: that's more like what I expected. You can see a lot of modules are missing. Basically everything in 'requires' is a RDEPENDS (runtime) https://gist.github.com/gmorell/e3665996b3bb2246dfd61ba80c4a4c98#file-perl-dev-shell-build-txt-L20 | 21:00 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: so you can see what is available in meta-perl and the rest you will need to create recipes for | 21:01 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: I know a bunch of those look familiar, but not all. | 21:01 |
| gmorell | yeah that's what I was expecting, but looking at the existing recipes they don't seem super complex, just a bit of work | 21:01 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: exactly... and sadly my work to add perl modules to recipetool/devtool is stalled by how metacpan.org metadata is stored (nested ElasticSearch is not queryable) | 21:02 |
| moto-timo | https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7037 | 21:03 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: I'm a contractor so if you have funding you can hire us to make munin work. | 21:04 |
| gmorell | unsure about funding at this time, but a question about recipies https://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded/tree/meta-perl/recipes-perl/libcgi/libcgi-perl_4.54.bb?h=kirkstone, I'm guessing I'd have to add one for CGI::Cookie as well? | 21:12 |
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| moto-timo | gmorell: in this case you only need RDEPENDS on libcgi-perl (https://metacpan.org/pod/CGI::Cookie) | 22:28 |
| gmorell | ye, I figured it out eventually, had to add some bbappends to enable the -native | 22:28 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: the "it's in my head but it should be documented" approach is to search metacpan.org for whatever it is and see if it is a sub-module or a stand alone. | 22:29 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: please send a patch for the -native if that was lacking. | 22:29 |
| gmorell | moto-timo: I will do so once I get this going | 22:29 |
| moto-timo | gmorell: in some recipes you'll see I have much more verbosely added RPROVIDES... but that was tedious and probably brittle (folks, including me, do not check everything when a new AUH upgrade is available) | 22:31 |
| moto-timo | so libcgi-perl could have helpfully had RPROVIDES libcgi-cookie-perl | 22:31 |
| RP | wmills_, JPEW, zeddii: I merged that hashserv fix FWIW | 22:37 |
| JPEW | RP: ty | 22:37 |
| RP | JPEW: can you see if you follow and agree with my explaination in https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15289 ? | 23:04 |
| * JPEW looks | 23:04 | |
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| JPEW | RP: Why would X rehash the perlcross-native:do_populate_sysroot if it's reported first? | 23:15 |
| JPEW | (unless that outhash was already in the database) | 23:15 |
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| RP | JPEW: X would have rehashed due to the quilt-native equivalence | 23:22 |
| JPEW | RP: Ah, OK, the rehashing happens before perlcross-native rebuilds? | 23:24 |
| RP | JPEW: yes, on X due to quilt-native having an equivalence | 23:26 |
| JPEW | RP: Yes, that makes sense then | 23:27 |
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| RP | JPEW: I think I'm a little happier knowing how it could happen. Next question is what to do about it :/ | 23:32 |
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| JPEW | RP: Well... would it really have an adverse effect on end users? I was sort of under the impressing the test was "peeking under the hood" to try and figure things out and hashequiv was confusing the test | 23:34 |
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| RP | JPEW: the idea is the user should be able to use the tools to understand what changed or why sstate wasn't being used. This stops that a bit unless we can mitigate it, which there is one potential idea for | 23:35 |
| RP | JPEW: the tests were designed as "change something" and see if we can report what changed | 23:35 |
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| RP | JPEW: still not 100% convinced it was this but I guess it is a possible way it could happen :/ | 23:50 |
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