| halstead | I snuck away. Looking now. | 00:00 |
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| halstead | It's only in the cache on ubuntu2304-ty-1. File doesn't exist on the NAS and other workers list the dir without it. | 00:06 |
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| halstead | We could set lookupcache=none to prevent this error but I'm not sure how an invalid cache entry got made in the first place. Did another worker delete that file? | 00:25 |
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| LetoThe2nd | yo dudX | 08:20 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 08:31 |
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| * alessioigor waves all | 08:58 | |
| mckoan | alessioigor: hi | 08:58 |
| landgraf | (^_^)/ | 09:06 |
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| LetoThe2nd | is there some prerequisite for the /dev/disk/by-partuuid nodes being populated? just tinkering around with it, and the system drops into a recovery shell because mounting fails due to them missing. | 09:50 |
| Xogium | hmm, aside from systemd and udev, I don't think there should be ? | 09:50 |
| Xogium | I don't know of eudev has them, but possibly | 09:51 |
| Xogium | *if | 09:51 |
| Xogium | iirc udev is oppulating the entire /dev/disk/* | 09:51 |
| Xogium | *populating | 09:52 |
| Xogium | LetoThe2nd: are other directories in there properly populated ? | 09:55 |
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| LetoThe2nd | Xogium: /dev/disk/by-path/* is populated, yes. | 09:55 |
| Xogium | hmm, but not by-label, by-partlabel, and so on ? | 09:56 |
| LetoThe2nd | Xogium: correct | 09:59 |
| Xogium | I've never seen anything quite like this | 10:03 |
| Xogium | you running udev or eudev ? | 10:04 |
| Xogium | LetoThe2nd: also do you have huh | 10:07 |
| Xogium | /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules | 10:09 |
| LetoThe2nd | Xogium: completely standard systems setup | 10:11 |
| LetoThe2nd | *systemd | 10:11 |
| Xogium | that is even weirder | 10:12 |
| Xogium | maybe the rules file can provide insight as to what is going on though ? | 10:13 |
| LetoThe2nd | Xogium: yeah. ok, just building then will take a look at the rules. | 10:13 |
| Xogium | it's a very long shot, but | 10:13 |
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| rburton | zeddii: as is traditional, linux-yocto-dev + meta-clang fails in perf. "aarch64-poky-linux-clang: error: no such file or directory: 'aarch64-poky-linux'" | 13:11 |
| zeddii | rburton: I've heard that clang doesn't work to build perf (at least within the way we set our kernel build env), but I've never had to try it myself. | 13:13 |
| zeddii | It is something I could look into, if no one beats me to it. | 13:13 |
| rburton | works with linux-yocto | 13:14 |
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| thomas_34 | I found this: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/poky/2011-February/003740.html | 13:28 |
| thomas_34 | Does anyone know where that script is, or how to visualize the buildstats that I can see which recipes takes the most time to build? | 13:28 |
| RP | thomas_34: scripts/pybootchartgui/pybootchartgui.py in OE-Core | 13:31 |
| thomas_34 | Are you Richard? | 13:32 |
| rburton | thomas_34: look up "why is my build so slow" on the yocto project youtube channel | 13:32 |
| rburton | RP: any idea what component would be best for a resulttool bug? | 13:33 |
| thomas_34 | Thank you for the links! :) | 13:34 |
| RP | rburton: we should probably add something like "QA and Test Automation" then "Tooling" ? | 13:35 |
| rburton | yeah | 13:37 |
| rburton | there's a big gap right now | 13:37 |
| rburton | oh i might have the power to do that | 13:37 |
| RP | rburton: I just added it | 13:38 |
| rburton | yeah just saw that :) | 13:38 |
| rburton | thanks | 13:38 |
| RP | thomas_34: I am, yes. That email was from me quite a few years ago | 13:38 |
| thomas_34 | RP, ahh i thought so. Nice :) Thank you for your contribution! | 13:39 |
| rburton | RP: i'll move all the existing resulttool bugs to that new component, they're mostly in 'scripts and tools' right now but i think its good to pull them all out. | 13:39 |
| jclsn | Is there a way to read environment variables and expand them into the local.conf when setting up the environment? I would like to add some keys from the host system | 13:49 |
| jclsn | I would like to be able to just set the path in my .bashrc and put the keys there | 13:50 |
| jclsn | It only works with an absolute path though, which would have to be changed for every user | 13:51 |
| thomas_34 | rburton, wow! Thank you for the video. Thats really spot on, exactly what I need! | 13:51 |
| RP | rburton: sounds good, thanks. We do need to rework the categories a bit at some point but this is a good start | 13:52 |
| rburton | aye | 13:52 |
| thomas_34 | Indeed, rust-native is a huge pain. I was hoping that I can get rid off it in my image, but you mentioned that the kernel requires it nowadays? :/ | 13:53 |
| RP | thomas_34: not yet but it is heading that way | 13:53 |
| rburton | https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/rust <-- it has started | 13:54 |
| rburton | not required, but we will start seeing rust used in drivers | 13:54 |
| thomas_34 | Aua... | 13:54 |
| rburton | https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/net/phy/ax88796b_rust.rs | 13:55 |
| rburton | if you don't use librsvg (as used by gtk) or python-cryptography, right now you can get rid of rust. those are the big two users. | 13:57 |
| jclsn | BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE I guess... | 13:57 |
| thomas_34 | rburton, thank you for that info! | 13:58 |
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| RP | derRichard: I merged dropping that patch FWIW: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=7ca6bd89776f38b7af5e5e9002c4e82b06c4e995 | 14:10 |
| derRichard | RP: that was fast. thanks a lot! | 14:10 |
| Xogium | wow, a derRichard :) hello | 14:11 |
| derRichard | ;-) | 14:11 |
| RP | derRichard: its nice to do something straightforward and clearcut for a change! | 14:12 |
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| jclsn | JPEW: Can't I just use any environment variable for Pyrex binds? | 14:19 |
| jclsn | ${env:HOME} works but ${env:SOME_ENV_VARIABLE} doesn't | 14:19 |
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| jclsn | Would be nice if I could automatically mount a directory added to BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE | 14:33 |
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| JPEW | jclsn: should be able to use any variable, just make sure to declare it for use so pyrex knows to expand it. Afk right now so I don't remember where that is in the ini file | 14:46 |
| jclsn | JPEW: Who else would know that if not you? :D | 14:50 |
| JPEW | jclsn: pyrex.ini has good comments in it, or wait 20 minutes and I'll be at my computer | 14:51 |
| jclsn | envvars I guess | 14:51 |
| jclsn | Will try that out | 14:51 |
| jclsn | I have some spare time | 14:52 |
| JPEW | jclsn: Yes, run.envvars | 14:59 |
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| jclsn | JPEW: Tried that. It is still complaining about InterpolationMissingOptionError | 15:04 |
| jclsn | https://pastebin.com/raw/knsTYPP3 | 15:06 |
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| JPEW | jclsn: Sorry, it's config.envimport not run.envvars | 15:09 |
| JPEW | jclsn: config.envimport are variables to send to Pyrex itself that it can use when parsing the ini file, run.envvars are variable to pass through to bitbake et. al. | 15:09 |
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| rburton | khem: do you have a branch or something for the llvm/clang release candidates? | 15:27 |
| rburton | i'd love to do an experiment with the latest 18-rc0 when it comes out in a week | 15:28 |
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| jclsn | JPEW: Works. Thx! | 15:34 |
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| jdiez | is it possible to somehow provide precompiled packages, so that a new developer working on the same base OS wouldn't have to recompile everything from scratch? I think using a shared (internet-accesible?) sscache may get part way there, but what about writing to the sscache? | 15:38 |
| JPEW | jdiez: sstate is that. In our setup, our CI shares sstate via NFS, and there is also a HTTP server on it that our developers set as an SSTATE_MIRROR | 15:41 |
| JPEW | jdiez: Which mean our developers aren't writing to sstate, but it will just download a sstate file if it's something that's already been built by CI | 15:41 |
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| jdiez | ah yeah sstate*. gotcha, thanks. | 15:43 |
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| qschulz | i just stumbled upon some patches from Richard making use of inherit_defer but cannot find any mention of what this is used for in the YP or bitbake docs | 15:51 |
| qschulz | michaelo: I think this would be a nice addition? ^^^^^ | 15:51 |
| * derRichard needs to disable the irssi highlighting for "richard" ;-) | 15:51 | |
| derRichard | usually i'm the only one | 15:51 |
| JPEW | qschulz: It deferes the evaluation of the statement till after parsing. So that things like `inherit_defered ${FOO}` work as you would expect | 15:52 |
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| qschulz | derRichard: I specifically didn't want to highlight the other Richard :) | 15:52 |
| qschulz | JPEW: ah, because inherit ${FOO} would then evaluate FOO at that line? | 15:52 |
| JPEW | qschulz: Correct | 15:53 |
| qschulz | (I haven't followed any Yocto/bitbake stuff for months now, so quite behind :/) | 15:53 |
| qschulz | JPEW: Thanks! | 15:53 |
| qschulz | JPEW: I assume this means we should basically never use inherit ${FOO} | 15:53 |
| JPEW | qschulz: `inherit` is kinda like `:=` while `inherit_deferred` is like `=` | 15:53 |
| vvn | JPEW Hi! Are the Pyrex docker image registered somewhere, so that one could use them outside of Pyrex? | 15:53 |
| qschulz | JPEW: mmmm a case of US english vs UK english for defered vs deferred :) ? | 15:53 |
| JPEW | qschulz: Ya, they are going to add a warning if you use a variable in a normal `inherit` because it's usually (always?) wrong | 15:54 |
| qschulz | JPEW: nice! thanks, still think we should have a few words in the docs for that :) | 15:54 |
| JPEW | qschulz: IDK. No one has ever accused me of having good English or spelling, so it's equally likely I'm doing it wrong :) | 15:55 |
| JPEW | vvn: They are on docker hub, but it's really hard to use them without the pyrex script. They expect a litany of variables to passed to work correctly | 15:55 |
| qschulz | JPEW: nope, my broken english vs proper english :) deferred with two Rs :) | 15:56 |
| JPEW | vvn: If you want a container that you can just pull down and run and "works", crops is a better option. Pyrex is really focused on making the container transparent | 15:56 |
| * JPEW should switch pyrex to ghcr | 15:57 | |
| vvn | JPEW: are Pyrex containers based on crops? | 15:57 |
| JPEW | vvn: No | 15:59 |
| vvn | CROPS has no official doc somewhere, right? | 15:59 |
| RP | qschulz: we do need to document it :/ Bad RP. | 15:59 |
| JPEW | vvn: The repos have documentation: https://github.com/crops/poky-container | 16:00 |
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| vvn | what is the difference between the -base and -builder images? | 16:01 |
| RP | dl9pf: you are aware of the meta-agl weston failure? | 16:01 |
| dl9pf | not yet, whats the issue ? | 16:02 |
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| JPEW | vvn: I'm not sure, sorry | 16:05 |
| RP | dl9pf: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/120/builds/3880 from the weston upgrade | 16:05 |
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| dl9pf | ok -next needs bbappend fix ... roger .. | 16:10 |
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| * rburton isn't sure why everyone is suddenly using his personal layer, https://github.com/rossburton/meta-ross | 16:52 | |
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| khem | rburton: yeah here - https://github.com/YoeDistro/meta-clang/tree/kraj/clang-18 | 17:49 |
| khem | maybe I should create it as draft PR sometime soon, now that I have test images going with it | 17:50 |
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| dl9pf | RP: latest meta-agl / -next branch should fix the weston upgrade. | 18:22 |
| kergoth_ | What's the current best practice to build a wic image that includes another image binary, ex for creating installers, or update methods? I'm sure I remember seeing a wic option to copy extra files into a rootfs that could be used for that? Does anyone recall offhand? | 18:23 |
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| khem | I have used IMAGE_BOOT_FILES | 19:06 |
| RP | dl9pf: thanks, much appreciated. We've found errors tend to "breed" unnoticed on the autobuilder so it goes out of control quickly | 19:06 |
| dl9pf | sure, np. yes, and they might hide other errors. we'll do another uprev in the next days. atm just unblocking. | 19:07 |
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| LetoThe2nd | what is the current state of image generation for platforms like VMware or hyper-V? are there image types for this around somewhere? (maybe @zeddii ) | 20:30 |
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| JaMa | rburton: "< rburton> the migration happens in february. you can find out more in a weeks time ;)" will it accelerate now as meta-arm doesn't parse due to .bbappends for 6.1? | 20:54 |
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| kergoth_ | Hmm, IMAGE_BOOT_FILES is too limited, boot partition only.. I wonder if --include-path= would be of use in this case | 21:17 |
| zeddii | LetoThe2nd: as in direct creation of a vmdk (or whatever the formats are now) ? it is largely a standard format and convert operation at the moment. | 21:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | zeddii: yeah I found the vmdk image conversion already, thanks. fun fact: autocorrect just tried to convert vmdk to vodka. which kinda makes sense, if you ask me. | 21:21 |
| RP | "I found the vodka already, thanks" :) | 21:22 |
| zeddii | makes the image creation process more fun :) | 21:22 |
| jsbronder | kergoth_: I don't know if it's best practice, but I've gotten away with adding a new task and doing something like "do_new_task[depends] += "root-image:do_image_complete", and pulling what I need from ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE} | 21:22 |
| RP | jsbronder: we did specifically make that work FWIW | 21:22 |
| kergoth_ | Ah, true, hadn't thought about doing so outside of wic, thanks for the tip. I do feel like, given the existence of 'wic cp', that it should be easy to do it via the wks, though! :) | 21:23 |
| jsbronder | RP: My thanks then, because it's made my life a lot easier ;) | 21:25 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: that's exactly what it suggested, indeed. | 21:28 |
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| Xogium | LetoThe2nd: heya ;) did you figure out / dug deeper into the missing by-partuuid and friends ? | 21:48 |
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| RP | vmeson: for some reason I think of you https://xkcd.com/2884/ :) | 22:11 |
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| RP | yocton: thanks for the scheduler patch, I've made it live and it reminded me to make a toaster one :) | 22:24 |
| yocton | RP: You're welcome :-) | 22:36 |
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| JaMa | zeddii: are you going to drop dynamic-layers/raspberrypi/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-yocto_6.1.bbappend from meta-virt? | 23:00 |
| JaMa | or should I send patch for it? | 23:00 |
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