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thomas_34Good morning guys, a special question for all the yocto veterans here: ;)07:19
thomas_34I have a bunch of different MACHINES which all uses the same kernel sources, but with different defconfigs.07:22
thomas_34The defconfigs are set during patch-task via FILES += "defconfig_machinename".07:22
thomas_34Whats the best practise, to be sure that bitbake does not overwrite WORKDIR or caches wrongly when I build the kernel/image for every MACHINE in a row?07:22
thomas_34My idea was, to control MULTIMATCH_TARGET_SYS which is part of WORKDIR. Is that the right approach?07:23
thomas_34To give that a extra flavor for each of my MACHINE definition? Just for the kernel recipe?07:24
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abluthomas_34: Different machines should already build to different folders. So this should "just" work. Do you observe errors?07:36
thomas_34ablu, For the kernel it does work. I have also some modificated u-boot-stuff which is put into "tmp/<toolchain>/aarch64_oe_linux/. aarch64 is wrong here, its the architecture of the core, not the machine name.07:39
thomas_34But this is my fault. I just wanna know if that approach would be correct here?07:39
abluthomas_34: What made you change that path? Can you just drop the manual assignment of the WORKDIR there?07:43
thomas_34I had to modify u-boot so much that I ended up to write a new recipe which just builds all the artefacts which I need from my u-boot sources.07:46
abluthomas_34: Ok, I am not sure why you need to override "WORKDIR" for that, but I guess the first step would be to attempt to stop doing that :)07:51
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thomas_34ablu, what happens if you build u-boot from same sources with config1, config2, config3 via bitbake?07:55
abluthomas_34: What does "from the same sources" mean? Typically you would specify a SRC_URI and that gets unpacked under your WORKDIR. So each build will have it's own set of sources to build against.07:58
thomas_34For each of the 3 variants, the same git source (commit hash) is used.07:59
abluYou should still have 3 unpacks for each variant (if "variant" is machine), so three WORKDIRs with each an unpacked source under them.08:02
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thomas_34ablu now we are at the point. This I don't have. Where do you think should be the difference in the paths of these variants?08:04
abluthomas_34: Well, WORKDIR should already provide you with machine and recipe specific paths. But it sounded like you overwrite that. It would probably help if you would post the recipe.08:05
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thomas_34No, I am not overwriting that. Thats why I have no difference regarding my machine configurations. My question was which part of the WORKDIR yocto people normaly doing that. And I think the solution would be "PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}". Because that will impact MULTIMATCH_TARGET_SYS08:09
thomas_34(https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS)08:09
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JaMathomas_34: if your recipe or bbappend depends on something MACHINE specific (could be MACHINE as override or something MACHINE_ARCH in DEPENDS/RDEPENDS) then you should use PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}"08:17
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thomas_34Thank you JaMa for approval!08:21
RPthomas_34: JaMa is right, PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" is the usual way to do that08:31
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Tyakurburton: Yesterday we talk about listing the runtime dependencies, did you know the best approch ? I was thinking about it:08:35
Tyaku1. Open the manifest file in `tmp/deploy/images/MY_IMAGE` directory, parse it and store the package names present in the.08:35
Tyaku2. For each package, call `oe-pkgdata-util read-value RDEPENDS {package_name}` and.. Parse it and append lines in the runtime-deps.dot08:35
TyakuNOTE: `oe-pkgdata-util read-value RDEPENDS XXX` is not easly parsable.08:35
TyakuThe idea is to build a .dot like "bitbake -g" but for RDEPENDS.08:36
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TyakuI also find it:https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/dev-manual/build-quality.html#using-build-history-to-gather-image-information-only which can provide installed-package-names.txt and it also provide depends.dot but don't know yet if it's the equivalent of RDEPENDS I'm going to test.08:42
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TyakuIt seems that this dot file contains runtime deps. So it's all good!09:12
TyakuBut the way how it is presented with graphivz is a real pain. "xdot file.dot", display a very large file that cannot be really used as this is so big.09:13
ablu> No, I am not overwriting that.Ah. The question around "MULTIMATCH_TARGET_SYS" made me think you did that somehow...09:13
landgrafRP: Do you remember RDEPENDS/repo issue I was complating about? Same recipe with RDEPENDS:${PN} = "bash" with multiconfig and without produces different spec file. without mc "Requires: bash; Requires(post): bash"  and with mc: "BuildRequires: bash" which is wrong :(09:15
landgrafmulticonfig sets only TMPDIR09:16
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MikaelWHi!09:28
MikaelWAs part of the rootfs creation I have added some code that generate a file with some information. What shall I do so that bitbake removes this file when I run a new build or I run clean on the image the rootfs belongs to?09:28
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rburtonMikaelW: where is this file written?09:35
MikaelWIn the same dir as the image is created.09:36
MikaelWtmp/deploy/images/xxxx/09:36
rburtonsurely if the code just writes to the same filename then it will replace it anyway09:36
MikaelWIt doesn't, it follow the name the image has with timestamps, machine and everything.09:37
MikaelWI did it that way to make sure the information file is fully matched to the image it was created with.09:38
rburtonah so you want the old timestamped name to be purged like the images are too09:38
MikaelWYes09:38
rburtonnot sure - have a look in image.bbclass and see if you can spot the logic09:38
MikaelWOk thanks.09:40
rburtonRP: does the image pruning in deploydir (old timestamped image deleted) happen as a side-effect of do_image being sstated?  I'm surprised do_image is going through sstate to be honest!09:40
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RPrburton: it is as a result of the sstate tracking code, yes10:19
RPrburton: we don't create/write sstate artefacts for it, just use it for file cleanup10:20
RPrburton: curl ptest with master-next: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20240326-22/testresults/qemux86-64-ptest/curl.log :/10:48
RPrburton: same revision, same arch, different fail: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20240327-12/testresults/qemux86-64-ptest/curl.log10:50
* rburton shakes fist10:55
rburtonMikaelW: so there you go - write to imgdeploydir instead of deploy directly and bitbake will do it for you10:55
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MikaelWrburton: Thanks!!11:52
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MikaelWrburton: That worked very well. So again, thanks!!12:37
MikaelWThat has been a thorne in my eye for a long time ...12:37
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thomas_34Is it possible to combine OVERRIDE variables? Like ´variable = "foo"´ but only if o1 AND o2 shows up in OVERRIDE ?13:07
thomas_34variable:o1:o2 = "foo" ? Is there some syntax like that?13:07
JaMayes13:08
thomas_34JaMa, could you point me to the documentation which explains that? Or could you describe?13:09
JaMause bitbake -e or bitbake-getvar whenever you don't know13:10
thomas_34Okay... but how does me help that to know which syntax I should use?13:11
thomas_34I have never seen somewhere, that someone combined override variables with some boolean logic13:12
JaMait's not very common, but there are some cases in oe-core as well, e.g. meta/recipes-devtools/qemu/qemu_8.2.1.bb:EXTRA_OECONF:append:class-target:mipsarcho32 = "${@bb.utils.contains('BBEXTENDCURR', 'multilib', ' --disable-capstone', '', d)}"13:14
rburtonthomas_34: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.6/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-metadata.html#conditional-syntax-overrides.  file a bug if you think it should explicitly cover this case13:14
rburtonthomas_34: but basically what you suggested is exactly what you'd do13:15
rburtonJama means to experiment and see if your syntax works (it does)13:15
thomas_34JaMa, oh okay thank you for that link!13:18
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thomas_34rburton, Okay - I read this chapter multiple times, but I wasn't sure if my case is possible, because every example just uses a single override. And also to what extend. So what I understand is, that a logical AND is possible. How about a logical OR, etc..13:21
thomas_34Thank you both, AND is just what I need now13:21
rburtonfeel free to contribute a paragraph talking about this13:22
rburton(please do :)13:22
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thomas_34rburton, Can I see somewhere, how exactly this OVERRIDE mechanizm works? So then I can deviate how to achieve that. Is there some python functionality? Or is this behaviour similar to Portage from Gentoo?13:24
JaMayou can read bitbake sources :)13:25
JaMait's always AND, if you need OR you need to use 2 assignments13:25
JaMafoo:o1 = "a"; foo:o2 = "a"; bar = "${foo}"13:25
JaMafoo = "else"13:26
thomas_34JaMa, yeah, so you dont know if there is a certain "module" or something where the logic behind that is encapsulated?13:27
thomas_34About the OR: Assignment is easy, yes. But appending not so, right? I would like to avoid that "a" got append two times.13:27
thomas_34Yeah, I think to provide some documentation about that, after I dig into that topic :)13:27
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JaMabar:append = "${foo}" won't append it twice13:28
thomas_34Ahhh, I understand.... using that as "preprocessing"... Cool idea!13:29
JaMalib/bb/data_smart.py13:29
thomas_34Oh thank you! I'm setting a bookmark on that13:30
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kanavin"Do you sometimes get frustrated at how slow your computer's operating system can be? Now is your chance to prove that you could do a better job!14:47
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mario-goulartI'd use the same scheduling algorithm used to juggle bug tickets: ASAP-as-possible scheduling.14:59
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JaMakanavin: thanks :)15:09
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rm5248can having the SSTATE_DIR on a different filesystem than what I'm building on cause pseudo abort errors?  I have a problem where my build is failing on the build server but it works fine locally15:59
JaMarm5248: it shouldn't16:00
JaMarm5248: is it building always from scratch (empty TMPDIR) or is it incremental build?16:01
JaMamany of pseudo aborts are triggered only in incremental builds which is more likely to accidentally trigger inode conflict16:02
rm5248I delete the TMPDIR every time - I'm using kas to set it all up, so it deletes the build directory(which would delete TMPDIR) every time16:02
rm5248I have tried deleting everything and then re-running the build, but it still failed.  I can try that again though16:03
JaMathen check if there is something special about the file which it complains about in pseudo.log16:03
JaMae.g. I've recently seen many aborts when SRC_URI has something fetched outside ${S} and then the source files are copied to ${PN}-dev from $WORKDIR (but not from ${S} which is excluded from pseudo paths)16:04
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rm5248I always get the error on the meta-extsdk-toolchain-dbg_1.0-r0_cortexa5t2hf-vfp.ipk package/file.  Since it is not something that I have modified, that makes me somewhat suspicious of the build machine.16:23
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rm5248I think I can try two things: 1. deleting the full sstate_cache dir 2. building without the sstate cache dir(so it is all on one filesystem)16:25
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jonmasonAm I missing something, or are the SRC_URI destsuffix, name, protocol, and probably others not documented?18:13
jonmasonhttps://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html?highlight=src_uri#term-SRC_URI18:13
jonmasonwhere else should I be looking?18:13
* jonmason really doesn't want to add entries 18:14
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abellonihttps://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.6/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.html#fetchers18:14
abelloniwhich is two clicks aways from your link ;)18:15
jonmasonlmao, this is why I asked18:15
jonmasongreping through src was not helping18:16
abelloniwell, those depend on the fetcher which are in bitbake18:16
abelloniname is documented in https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.6/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-ref-variables.html#term-SRC_URI18:16
jonmasonabout to send out a terrible patch that will add a new variable, and want to do the docs for it :)18:17
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