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| thomas_34 | Good morning guys, a special question for all the yocto veterans here: ;) | 07:19 |
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| thomas_34 | I have a bunch of different MACHINES which all uses the same kernel sources, but with different defconfigs. | 07:22 |
| thomas_34 | The defconfigs are set during patch-task via FILES += "defconfig_machinename". | 07:22 |
| thomas_34 | Whats the best practise, to be sure that bitbake does not overwrite WORKDIR or caches wrongly when I build the kernel/image for every MACHINE in a row? | 07:22 |
| thomas_34 | My idea was, to control MULTIMATCH_TARGET_SYS which is part of WORKDIR. Is that the right approach? | 07:23 |
| thomas_34 | To give that a extra flavor for each of my MACHINE definition? Just for the kernel recipe? | 07:24 |
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| ablu | thomas_34: Different machines should already build to different folders. So this should "just" work. Do you observe errors? | 07:36 |
| thomas_34 | ablu, For the kernel it does work. I have also some modificated u-boot-stuff which is put into "tmp/<toolchain>/aarch64_oe_linux/. aarch64 is wrong here, its the architecture of the core, not the machine name. | 07:39 |
| thomas_34 | But this is my fault. I just wanna know if that approach would be correct here? | 07:39 |
| ablu | thomas_34: What made you change that path? Can you just drop the manual assignment of the WORKDIR there? | 07:43 |
| thomas_34 | I had to modify u-boot so much that I ended up to write a new recipe which just builds all the artefacts which I need from my u-boot sources. | 07:46 |
| ablu | thomas_34: Ok, I am not sure why you need to override "WORKDIR" for that, but I guess the first step would be to attempt to stop doing that :) | 07:51 |
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| thomas_34 | ablu, what happens if you build u-boot from same sources with config1, config2, config3 via bitbake? | 07:55 |
| ablu | thomas_34: What does "from the same sources" mean? Typically you would specify a SRC_URI and that gets unpacked under your WORKDIR. So each build will have it's own set of sources to build against. | 07:58 |
| thomas_34 | For each of the 3 variants, the same git source (commit hash) is used. | 07:59 |
| ablu | You should still have 3 unpacks for each variant (if "variant" is machine), so three WORKDIRs with each an unpacked source under them. | 08:02 |
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| thomas_34 | ablu now we are at the point. This I don't have. Where do you think should be the difference in the paths of these variants? | 08:04 |
| ablu | thomas_34: Well, WORKDIR should already provide you with machine and recipe specific paths. But it sounded like you overwrite that. It would probably help if you would post the recipe. | 08:05 |
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| thomas_34 | No, I am not overwriting that. Thats why I have no difference regarding my machine configurations. My question was which part of the WORKDIR yocto people normaly doing that. And I think the solution would be "PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}". Because that will impact MULTIMATCH_TARGET_SYS | 08:09 |
| thomas_34 | (https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html#term-MULTIMACH_TARGET_SYS) | 08:09 |
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| JaMa | thomas_34: if your recipe or bbappend depends on something MACHINE specific (could be MACHINE as override or something MACHINE_ARCH in DEPENDS/RDEPENDS) then you should use PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" | 08:17 |
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| thomas_34 | Thank you JaMa for approval! | 08:21 |
| RP | thomas_34: JaMa is right, PACKAGE_ARCH = "${MACHINE_ARCH}" is the usual way to do that | 08:31 |
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| Tyaku | rburton: Yesterday we talk about listing the runtime dependencies, did you know the best approch ? I was thinking about it: | 08:35 |
| Tyaku | 1. Open the manifest file in `tmp/deploy/images/MY_IMAGE` directory, parse it and store the package names present in the. | 08:35 |
| Tyaku | 2. For each package, call `oe-pkgdata-util read-value RDEPENDS {package_name}` and.. Parse it and append lines in the runtime-deps.dot | 08:35 |
| Tyaku | NOTE: `oe-pkgdata-util read-value RDEPENDS XXX` is not easly parsable. | 08:35 |
| Tyaku | The idea is to build a .dot like "bitbake -g" but for RDEPENDS. | 08:36 |
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| Tyaku | I also find it:https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/dev-manual/build-quality.html#using-build-history-to-gather-image-information-only which can provide installed-package-names.txt and it also provide depends.dot but don't know yet if it's the equivalent of RDEPENDS I'm going to test. | 08:42 |
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| Tyaku | It seems that this dot file contains runtime deps. So it's all good! | 09:12 |
| Tyaku | But the way how it is presented with graphivz is a real pain. "xdot file.dot", display a very large file that cannot be really used as this is so big. | 09:13 |
| ablu | > No, I am not overwriting that.Ah. The question around "MULTIMATCH_TARGET_SYS" made me think you did that somehow... | 09:13 |
| landgraf | RP: Do you remember RDEPENDS/repo issue I was complating about? Same recipe with RDEPENDS:${PN} = "bash" with multiconfig and without produces different spec file. without mc "Requires: bash; Requires(post): bash" and with mc: "BuildRequires: bash" which is wrong :( | 09:15 |
| landgraf | multiconfig sets only TMPDIR | 09:16 |
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| MikaelW | Hi! | 09:28 |
| MikaelW | As part of the rootfs creation I have added some code that generate a file with some information. What shall I do so that bitbake removes this file when I run a new build or I run clean on the image the rootfs belongs to? | 09:28 |
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| rburton | MikaelW: where is this file written? | 09:35 |
| MikaelW | In the same dir as the image is created. | 09:36 |
| MikaelW | tmp/deploy/images/xxxx/ | 09:36 |
| rburton | surely if the code just writes to the same filename then it will replace it anyway | 09:36 |
| MikaelW | It doesn't, it follow the name the image has with timestamps, machine and everything. | 09:37 |
| MikaelW | I did it that way to make sure the information file is fully matched to the image it was created with. | 09:38 |
| rburton | ah so you want the old timestamped name to be purged like the images are too | 09:38 |
| MikaelW | Yes | 09:38 |
| rburton | not sure - have a look in image.bbclass and see if you can spot the logic | 09:38 |
| MikaelW | Ok thanks. | 09:40 |
| rburton | RP: does the image pruning in deploydir (old timestamped image deleted) happen as a side-effect of do_image being sstated? I'm surprised do_image is going through sstate to be honest! | 09:40 |
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| RP | rburton: it is as a result of the sstate tracking code, yes | 10:19 |
| RP | rburton: we don't create/write sstate artefacts for it, just use it for file cleanup | 10:20 |
| RP | rburton: curl ptest with master-next: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20240326-22/testresults/qemux86-64-ptest/curl.log :/ | 10:48 |
| RP | rburton: same revision, same arch, different fail: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/non-release/20240327-12/testresults/qemux86-64-ptest/curl.log | 10:50 |
| * rburton shakes fist | 10:55 | |
| rburton | MikaelW: so there you go - write to imgdeploydir instead of deploy directly and bitbake will do it for you | 10:55 |
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| MikaelW | rburton: Thanks!! | 11:52 |
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| MikaelW | rburton: That worked very well. So again, thanks!! | 12:37 |
| MikaelW | That has been a thorne in my eye for a long time ... | 12:37 |
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| thomas_34 | Is it possible to combine OVERRIDE variables? Like ´variable = "foo"´ but only if o1 AND o2 shows up in OVERRIDE ? | 13:07 |
| thomas_34 | variable:o1:o2 = "foo" ? Is there some syntax like that? | 13:07 |
| JaMa | yes | 13:08 |
| thomas_34 | JaMa, could you point me to the documentation which explains that? Or could you describe? | 13:09 |
| JaMa | use bitbake -e or bitbake-getvar whenever you don't know | 13:10 |
| thomas_34 | Okay... but how does me help that to know which syntax I should use? | 13:11 |
| thomas_34 | I have never seen somewhere, that someone combined override variables with some boolean logic | 13:12 |
| JaMa | it's not very common, but there are some cases in oe-core as well, e.g. meta/recipes-devtools/qemu/qemu_8.2.1.bb:EXTRA_OECONF:append:class-target:mipsarcho32 = "${@bb.utils.contains('BBEXTENDCURR', 'multilib', ' --disable-capstone', '', d)}" | 13:14 |
| rburton | thomas_34: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.6/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-metadata.html#conditional-syntax-overrides. file a bug if you think it should explicitly cover this case | 13:14 |
| rburton | thomas_34: but basically what you suggested is exactly what you'd do | 13:15 |
| rburton | Jama means to experiment and see if your syntax works (it does) | 13:15 |
| thomas_34 | JaMa, oh okay thank you for that link! | 13:18 |
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| thomas_34 | rburton, Okay - I read this chapter multiple times, but I wasn't sure if my case is possible, because every example just uses a single override. And also to what extend. So what I understand is, that a logical AND is possible. How about a logical OR, etc.. | 13:21 |
| thomas_34 | Thank you both, AND is just what I need now | 13:21 |
| rburton | feel free to contribute a paragraph talking about this | 13:22 |
| rburton | (please do :) | 13:22 |
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| thomas_34 | rburton, Can I see somewhere, how exactly this OVERRIDE mechanizm works? So then I can deviate how to achieve that. Is there some python functionality? Or is this behaviour similar to Portage from Gentoo? | 13:24 |
| JaMa | you can read bitbake sources :) | 13:25 |
| JaMa | it's always AND, if you need OR you need to use 2 assignments | 13:25 |
| JaMa | foo:o1 = "a"; foo:o2 = "a"; bar = "${foo}" | 13:25 |
| JaMa | foo = "else" | 13:26 |
| thomas_34 | JaMa, yeah, so you dont know if there is a certain "module" or something where the logic behind that is encapsulated? | 13:27 |
| thomas_34 | About the OR: Assignment is easy, yes. But appending not so, right? I would like to avoid that "a" got append two times. | 13:27 |
| thomas_34 | Yeah, I think to provide some documentation about that, after I dig into that topic :) | 13:27 |
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| JaMa | bar:append = "${foo}" won't append it twice | 13:28 |
| thomas_34 | Ahhh, I understand.... using that as "preprocessing"... Cool idea! | 13:29 |
| JaMa | lib/bb/data_smart.py | 13:29 |
| thomas_34 | Oh thank you! I'm setting a bookmark on that | 13:30 |
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| kanavin | "Do you sometimes get frustrated at how slow your computer's operating system can be? Now is your chance to prove that you could do a better job! | 14:47 |
| kanavin | Behold the nerdiest game ever, in which YOU are the operating system! As such, you have to manage the computer's processes, memory and input/output events, and try not to get rebooted by an impatient user. Good luck!" | 14:47 |
| kanavin | https://drfreckles42.itch.io/youre-the-os | 14:47 |
| kanavin | it's addictive :) | 14:47 |
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| mario-goulart | I'd use the same scheduling algorithm used to juggle bug tickets: ASAP-as-possible scheduling. | 14:59 |
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| JaMa | kanavin: thanks :) | 15:09 |
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| rm5248 | can having the SSTATE_DIR on a different filesystem than what I'm building on cause pseudo abort errors? I have a problem where my build is failing on the build server but it works fine locally | 15:59 |
| JaMa | rm5248: it shouldn't | 16:00 |
| JaMa | rm5248: is it building always from scratch (empty TMPDIR) or is it incremental build? | 16:01 |
| JaMa | many of pseudo aborts are triggered only in incremental builds which is more likely to accidentally trigger inode conflict | 16:02 |
| rm5248 | I delete the TMPDIR every time - I'm using kas to set it all up, so it deletes the build directory(which would delete TMPDIR) every time | 16:02 |
| rm5248 | I have tried deleting everything and then re-running the build, but it still failed. I can try that again though | 16:03 |
| JaMa | then check if there is something special about the file which it complains about in pseudo.log | 16:03 |
| JaMa | e.g. I've recently seen many aborts when SRC_URI has something fetched outside ${S} and then the source files are copied to ${PN}-dev from $WORKDIR (but not from ${S} which is excluded from pseudo paths) | 16:04 |
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| rm5248 | I always get the error on the meta-extsdk-toolchain-dbg_1.0-r0_cortexa5t2hf-vfp.ipk package/file. Since it is not something that I have modified, that makes me somewhat suspicious of the build machine. | 16:23 |
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| rm5248 | I think I can try two things: 1. deleting the full sstate_cache dir 2. building without the sstate cache dir(so it is all on one filesystem) | 16:25 |
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| jonmason | Am I missing something, or are the SRC_URI destsuffix, name, protocol, and probably others not documented? | 18:13 |
| jonmason | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/variables.html?highlight=src_uri#term-SRC_URI | 18:13 |
| jonmason | where else should I be looking? | 18:13 |
| * jonmason really doesn't want to add entries | 18:14 | |
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| abelloni | https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.6/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-fetching.html#fetchers | 18:14 |
| abelloni | which is two clicks aways from your link ;) | 18:15 |
| jonmason | lmao, this is why I asked | 18:15 |
| jonmason | greping through src was not helping | 18:16 |
| abelloni | well, those depend on the fetcher which are in bitbake | 18:16 |
| abelloni | name is documented in https://docs.yoctoproject.org/bitbake/2.6/bitbake-user-manual/bitbake-user-manual-ref-variables.html#term-SRC_URI | 18:16 |
| jonmason | about to send out a terrible patch that will add a new variable, and want to do the docs for it :) | 18:17 |
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