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| JaMa | is it known that failing to connect to hashserv in styhead causes not only the warning shown in kirkstone already "WARNING: Error contacting Hash Equivalence Server unix:///OE/lge/build/hashserv/hashserve.sock: [Errno 111] Connection refused" but also a bit ugly trace from ConnectionRefusedError? | 07:17 |
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| JaMa | like https://bpa.st/BQ7Q | 07:18 |
| JaMa | JPEW: ^^ | 07:18 |
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| JaMa | or FileNotFoundError cooker log shows it's from siggen.py called from bb.parse.siggen.get_unihashes (while ConnectionError are caught in report_unihash and report_unihash_equiv) https://bpa.st/RXMA https://git.openembedded.org/bitbake/tree/lib/bb/siggen.py | 07:36 |
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| RP | JaMa: that is something we need to improve | 08:41 |
| JaMa | RP: RFC patch sent | 08:41 |
| JaMa | https://lists.openembedded.org/g/bitbake-devel/message/16355 | 08:42 |
| RP | JaMa: I just wish you hadn't re-indented all that code! | 08:43 |
| JaMa | I hope that diff -w helps you, was there any point of enumerating query_pids without query_pids? | 08:45 |
| JaMa | I had this whole section in try-catch, but then it fails elsewhere when the self.unihash[tid] aren't set | 08:46 |
| JaMa | s/query_pids/query_tids/g | 08:47 |
| RP | JaMa: if query_tids is empty it won't loop anyway and it just avoids some extra indentation. The way the patch is it just makes it harder to see the real changes | 08:47 |
| RP | JaMa: since you're around, do you have a feel for how much https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=db15119e81a10e3f8be02583d5b41081c34c1cd6 might break? | 08:48 |
| JaMa | that's why -w is handy: https://bpa.st/GFJA do you want me to resend? | 08:49 |
| RP | JaMa: it might help others review too | 08:49 |
| RP | the above patch is still in very early testing atm, I'm trying to decide if I like the idea. The current use of append everywhere is getting to me a bit :/ | 08:50 |
| * RP back in a bit | 08:50 | |
| JaMa | I would hope that not that much (as usually it's the oposite issue, I had the same issue in db-native https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=6108da955e7c553247ff5356cf1c990b3d334edf so I've used += for BUILD_CFLAGS as well) | 08:50 |
| JaMa | but hard to estimate without unleashing on world build (as many components are really creative in handling these) | 08:51 |
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| rburton | Has anyone built bare-metal rust code in yocto? It moans that it can't find eg the core crate built for aarch64-unknown-none-softfloat. How can I get rust to build that too? | 11:00 |
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| JaMa | rburton: I'm sure our Jester will find some thematic song about it :) | 11:45 |
| RP | JaMa: thanks, that one is much easier to review! | 11:46 |
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| JaMa | would it make sense to implement something like DISTRO_FEATURES_FILTER_NATIVE from https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=731744d5538e315702be828e6f2bd556309dee07 but for ERROR_QA and WARN_QA? I have DISTROs with different ERROR_QA and they don's share -native sstate, because do_recipe_qa is different | 11:48 |
| JaMa | when it was only used in do_package_qa then it was fine (as it didn't affect -native), but now with meta/classes-global/insane.bbclass:addtask do_recipe_qa before do_fetch do_package_qa do_build it affects everything | 11:50 |
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| JaMa | or change it similarly as DISTRO_FEATURES that it changes signature only when one of the currently used ones is or isn't in ERROR_QA (currently it uses missing-metadata, missing-maintainer, src-uri-bad) | 11:54 |
| RP | JaMa: the latter sounds more attractive | 11:55 |
| JaMa | if error_class in (d.getVar("ERROR_QA") or "").split() replacing this with contains might help, right? | 11:55 |
| JaMa | in meta/lib/oe/qa.py handle_error | 11:56 |
| RP | JaMa: yes, that would be the right direction | 11:56 |
| JaMa | ok, will add it to my TODO list | 11:56 |
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| rburton | Exception: FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/builds/persist/sstate/universal/0e/35/sstate:python3-referencing-native:aarch64linux:0.35.1:r0:aarch64:12:0e35a644c82ad08a0eb27d18f96f3c15a552c4f146f13b10fb257b63aa55f65d_create_runtime_spdx.tar.zstftrl8ami' | 12:03 |
| rburton | that filename doesn't look right | 12:03 |
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| shoragan | Jones42, regarding root hash signatures: for root filesystems it's not useful, as they would allow mix and match attacks (besides increasing complexity in areas that should be simple :) | 12:17 |
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| Jones42 | shoragan: thanks for the reminder. this project is really giving me a headache. | 12:24 |
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| Jones42 | i thought all that verified boot stuff should be easy by now, but it really still is a very moving target... | 12:25 |
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| qschulz | PSA: Denx is considering removing git protocol support for source.denx.de, c.f. https://lore.kernel.org/u-boot/323dbb9c-42bd-4664-b660-0ba24c819bec@denx.de/ | 12:33 |
| qschulz | It was broken for a while, they fixed it now but are considering not fixing it next time it happens | 12:33 |
| qschulz | OE-Core isn't impacted, because we use HTTPS now, but some 3rd party layers are still using git protocol, so you may want to update SRC_URI to use protocol=https to anticipate the day it happens :) | 12:34 |
| JaMa | I fear that if they didn't notice it was broken, they won't notice your message here, but thanks anyway :) | 12:43 |
| JaMa | hey should break it on purpose regularly like github did 1-2 years back | 12:44 |
| RP | qschulz: it also broke our fetcher tests but I tweaked those to resolve it | 12:44 |
| RP | qschulz: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=b6b66ca07b2d7ea74c4aa61e9eec1cc7cb7f05ed | 12:45 |
| CrazyGecko | hey guys, I have the issue, when using subpath in a recipe, the SRCREV is ignored not respected and the latest commit of the branch is used for the build. we're using yocto-4.0.18. does anyone know that this is an issue or have already a patch? i did not find any commit in the git regarding that issue | 12:49 |
| qschulz | RP: I admittedly only looked into the recipe and not the tests :) but thanks for the hint | 12:51 |
| qschulz | JaMa: DL_DIR sharing is nice, but it sometimes hide those issues :) | 12:51 |
| jonmason | RP: sorry for the delay in this. If you got a kasa plug, I run: | 13:01 |
| jonmason | kasa --host $PM_HOST --type plug emeter --erase | 13:01 |
| jonmason | <test> | 13:01 |
| jonmason | kasa --host $PM_HOST --type plug emeter >> $DATA | 13:01 |
| jonmason | If you want my scripts (which are terrible) for collecting and processing the data, let me know | 13:01 |
| RP | jonmason: I worked that out, I just didn't know what you wanted to profile | 13:01 |
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| RP | jonmason: as for the scripts, not sure. I can at least capture the data now | 13:02 |
| jonmason | RP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UEOXLZe7jyJpSocvKPrOpSk7EmAHAa1FESIZvjd3OFw/edit?usp=sharing | 13:02 |
| jonmason | essentially the time and amount of electric used while running the test | 13:03 |
| jonmason | I think clean and sstate-full are interesting | 13:03 |
| jonmason | the one with the YP sstate mirror is there and roughly matches the electric of local sstate | 13:03 |
| jonmason | this is with qemuarm and minimal | 13:03 |
| RP | jonmason: presumably you have a revision and target to build? | 13:04 |
| RP | ah, right. That is the key thing | 13:04 |
| jonmason | I was building off meta-arm, which at the time was scarthgap | 13:04 |
| jonmason | well, it still is scarthgap...but I'm sure rburton is about to yell at me about that | 13:05 |
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| JaMa | jonmason: 32 docker instances do 3192 builds per day or how should I read that last line? | 13:07 |
| RP | jonmason: so core-image-minimal with qemuarm ? | 13:08 |
| jonmason | JaMa: I got excited too, until I looked at the output. OOMs and killed dockers galore | 13:08 |
| jonmason | RP: yes | 13:08 |
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| jonmason | ssh $HOST 'sudo docker run -d --rm --volume /mnt/yocto/:/builds/persist ghcr.io/siemens/kas/kas:4.3.2 /bin/bash -c "git clone http://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-arm && cd meta-arm/ && SSTATE_DIR=/builds/persist/sstate DL_DIR=/builds/persist/downloads kas checkout ci/qemuarm.yml && source poky/oe-init-build-env && echo -e \"\nDL_DIR=\\\"/builds/persist/downloads\\\"\n\" >> conf/local.conf && bitbake core-image-minimal --runall=fetch && | 13:09 |
| jonmason | time bitbake core-image-minimal" >> /tmp/foo' | 13:09 |
| RP | jonmason: oh, and scarthgap | 13:09 |
| jonmason | gotta love all my escapes there :) | 13:09 |
| jonmason | (thus why I said my script is terrible) | 13:10 |
| JaMa | jonmason: so the "Time Clean Build" in this case was just Time to OOMK? and the script doesn't distinguis between failed and successful builds? | 13:10 |
| jonmason | JaMa: my script is dumb. It needs to be smarter, but not sure it's worth the effort | 13:11 |
| JaMa | https://github.com/shr-project/test-oe-build-time/pull/15/commits/66e07fe48972a010d0e4337fd797ce19ca8f78bc then I can also build image with chromium in just a few minutes :) https://github.com/shr-project/test-oe-build-time/pull/15/commits/66e07fe48972a010d0e4337fd797ce19ca8f78bc | 13:11 |
| JaMa | jonmason: would you mind running https://github.com/shr-project/test-oe-build-time on your winner M1 or anything with enough ram to finish the build? I've already asked Ross as he tempted me with Altra :) | 13:13 |
| JaMa | and if you think that my build is too crazy, than it was created as dumb script for someone (wendel) with Dual Epyc asking for the hardest task to run on them (and it's not that far from what we're regularly building) | 13:15 |
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| JaMa | beefiest machines can run test.sh twice per day :) | 13:16 |
| JaMa | and might eat 20kWh while doing that :) | 13:17 |
| jonmason | JaMa: do you care about power or only time? | 13:18 |
| JaMa | I didn't measure power during the build yet, I can use my revogi meter next time I run it or track it from the PSU with lm_sensors | 13:19 |
| RP | jonmason: it may be a week before I get to timing this now, I'm going to run out of time | 13:20 |
| landgraf | either power or time cost money :-/ | 13:20 |
| JaMa | but I'm idling at 160W so I guess I'll be in different category :) | 13:20 |
| JaMa | landgraf: and our world builds are causing global heating | 13:22 |
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| jonmason | RP: no rush on this. I'm aiming for the YP Summit at the end of the year to present, and it might be interesting as something the community can contribute to | 13:31 |
| jonmason | I'm also generally interested in other tests that can be measured that would be interesting data points | 13:32 |
| jonmason | I was doing minimal and qemuarm to get 100% out of the YP sstate mirror | 13:33 |
| JaMa | and my electricity (the same whole day) is as expensive as Ross's daytime :/ | 13:35 |
| RP | my electricity is about 18% cheaper than ross' rate... | 13:38 |
| rburton | my night rate is awesome though! | 13:39 |
| rburton | 7.5p/kWh | 13:39 |
| JaMa | 4000+ kWh per year for 4-person household (no electric heating nor water nor AC), power efficient washing machine doesn't help when it runs next to non-stop building threadripper :/ | 13:39 |
| RP | ah, you're dual rate | 13:39 |
| rburton | dual rate is cool again with EVs | 13:39 |
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| JaMa | I would need to install electric heating to get dual rate here (or possibly EV charger now would work as well) | 13:40 |
| RP | rburton: electric storage heaters will be next? :) | 13:42 |
| rburton | get solar and batteries, charge up your batteries overnight when the power is super cheap | 13:43 |
| JaMa | and is it the final price for you or just the rate for power itself (I count mine as price on invoice/kWh because about 1/3 is for transfer and connection) | 13:43 |
| rburton | (or negative cost as happens sometimes) | 13:43 |
| rburton | UK bills are split between a daily flat rate and then per-kWh | 13:44 |
| RP | rburton: solar is tempting but it would meant cutting into the roof and my location makes me worry a lot about that | 13:45 |
| JaMa | aha, then my per-kWh would be 166p/kWh | 13:45 |
| rburton | my EV rates are 7.5p/kWh at night or 28p/kWh at day, and 48p/day on top of that | 13:46 |
| JaMa | and 262p/kWh together | 13:46 |
| jonmason | sorry, didn't mean to out rburton electric rate | 13:47 |
| rburton | its interesting to compare. i had to triple check my sums because Norway's unit cost is basically orders of magnitude less than UK. | 13:47 |
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| rburton | something something vast amounts of hydropower something | 13:47 |
| JaMa | I'm more interested in his Altra than his rate :) | 13:47 |
| jonmason | I was just trying to find rates that were more than cheap-o US rates | 13:47 |
| rburton | jonmason: lots of nice cheap coal to burn in the us of a! :) | 13:48 |
| RP | rburton: I get Norwegian hydro power here now and we swap it for north east wind power | 13:48 |
| rburton | fair trade | 13:49 |
| jonmason | rburton: are you familiar with coal ash? If not, it's even worse than you think | 13:49 |
| JaMa | wait for us to build 4 more nuclear blocks and pay for it in next 30 years, then we'll have cheap electricity ! | 13:49 |
| jonmason | JaMa: I'm on nuclear here | 13:49 |
| jonmason | with probably natural gas peaker plans | 13:49 |
| jonmason | err..plants | 13:49 |
| * RP can see wind farms out the window sitting at my desk | 13:50 | |
| jonmason | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shearon_Harris_Nuclear_Power_Plant | 13:50 |
| rburton | jonmason: https://grid.iamkate.com | 13:50 |
| * rburton looks out of window and confirms no solar | 13:50 | |
| JaMa | looks windy :) | 13:51 |
| jonmason | 15% gas, not bad | 13:51 |
| RP | The Norway interconnect lands about 10 miles away from me so that is probably where my power is coming frm | 13:52 |
| JaMa | https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/GB | 13:53 |
| rburton | poland appears to be just burning anything they can find :) | 13:54 |
| jonmason | looks like france wins | 13:55 |
| rburton | they rolled out a load of nuclear plants in the past, but appear to be not refreshing them as fast as they need to | 13:55 |
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| fray | In my part of the midwest, there is little to no coal being burned anymore.. it's all wind, solar, nuclear and natural gas.. (a _LOT_ of coal burners were converted to natural gas to meet emissions standards) | 14:26 |
| fray | with that said I pay about 12 cents/kWh.. regional average about 16.. | 14:26 |
| qschulz | rburton: yeah, they are trying to shutdown nuclear plants now. It's a very big disagreement between left parties right now. | 14:28 |
| rburton | personally, it seems like a bad idea | 14:28 |
| fray | where I am, residential rates are semi-fixed. I don't pay time-of-use, but instead pay an average for the utility costs +- 12 cents/kWh (base rate) | 14:29 |
| qschulz | rburton: some wants to push for more, some wants to stop building more and just maintaining, some wants to close them. It's such a big topic among lefties that it's a deciding factor for who to vote | 14:30 |
| rburton | qschulz: i'm enjoying the chaos from the surprise election, its making UK politics look normal again :) | 14:30 |
| qschulz | which is one (of many) reasons of the fragmentation of left voters in France and why parties never join for elections | 14:30 |
| fray | (last month I used 784 kWh, month before 448, 564, 562, 700, 650, ....) | 14:30 |
| qschulz | rburton: it can become MUCH worse in about three weeks | 14:31 |
| fray | but I've got a poorly insulated house in a cold AND hot part of the country.. so my usage is a bit higher then it probably should be.. | 14:31 |
| qschulz | well, it's already gone sideways, the question is how far the "sideways" is gonna go :) | 14:31 |
| fray | lol | 14:32 |
| qschulz | but we'll have the US elections in 4 months to relativise | 14:32 |
| qschulz | what a shit-show :) | 14:32 |
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| fray | I just checked my power consumption for this money. With air conditioning now being needed.. I'm forcasted to use 1.16 mWh this month.. whee | 14:34 |
| fray | Ohh I found the breakdown on current power generation (right now) for my area of the midwest.. 33% NG, 28% coal, 16% wind, 14% nuclear, 7% solar, and 2% "other" | 14:35 |
| fray | coal is about 8% higher then I would have guessed.. but it's overcast so solar might be reduced currently | 14:36 |
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