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danciosHi!10:31
mckoanhello10:33
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jclsnHi guys11:03
jclsnSeems really hard to remove systemd-timesyncd from the system in favor of chrony. Has someone here ever succeded in doing that?11:04
jclsnrburton: can't upstream my solution yet. It is quite hard. systemd-timesyncd is started by e.g. the timedactl timesync-status command or also via /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.timesync1.service11:05
jclsnWhen trying to remove timesyncd from the PACKAGECONFIG, net-snmp and other packages fail to build. It is really tricky11:06
jclsnNow I understand what some people hate about systemd. It is so deep in the system, that you can't remove parts of it easily anymore11:07
rburtonit makes almost no sense that net-snmp fails to build if you remove timesyncd from systemd. if it it depends on a bit of systemd and you're disabling that bit of systemd then maybe disable the systemd support in net-snmp11:14
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rburtonlooks like net-snmp's systemd support is limited to socket activation so there's no reason why turning off timesyncd would cause that to fail11:15
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jclsnIt is also not obvious to me why this happens. I can't see some hard dependency. I tried to disable the systemd support of it, but wasn't successful. Maybe I haven't done it right. I changed to PACKAGECONFIG[sytemd] = "--without-systemd". I was also wondering if this would prevent from starting via a systemd unit or something12:42
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jclsnI wait, this is only a list that applies whether systemd is enabled/disabled12:44
jclsnAh wait12:44
jclsnStill failing https://0x0.st/XM0-.txt12:48
jclsnReally weird12:48
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MayurHello Guys,12:55
MayurI am developing a Yocto recipe for my cmake project and have python state machine generator which has dependancy on clang-format.12:55
MayurSo when i bitbake my recipe, then its failing. So how can i add it in host yocto and not on target file system.12:55
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rburtonMayur: depend on clang-native (and pull in meta-clang)12:58
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MayurThanks. rburton . i think it worked.14:50
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Jones42I have some trouble fully grasping the prepare/populate sysroots tasks. Can someone confirm that this sentence (from the singleindex) is correct?14:58
Jones42"When a recipe B DEPENDS on A, it means what is in SYSROOT_DIRS will be copied from D of the recipe B into B’s SYSROOT_DESTDIR that is “${WORKDIR}/sysroot-destdir”."14:59
rburtonno15:03
rburtonas part of the build a recipe, it builds both the target packages and the sysroot (as you said, SYSROOT_DIRS defines that installed subset that is the sysroot).15:04
rburtonDEPENDS="a" means to pull a's sysroot into the current recipe's WORKDIR/recipe-sysroot15:04
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Jones42rburton: nice, that was causing me trouble. The sentence was from here https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#term-SYSROOT_DIRS_IGNORE (below the NOTE).15:13
Jones42Can/should I do something to get it fixed?15:13
rburtonJones42: you can send a patch :)15:15
rburtonhttps://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-docs/tree/documentation/ref-manual/variables.rst#n862015:16
rburtonor file a bug, but a patch would be great15:17
Jones42rburton: I'll send a patch then! But just to be sure, I only have to change one character, right? i.e.15:19
Jones42"When a recipe B DEPENDS on A, it means what is in SYSROOT_DIRS will be copied from D of the recipe ~B~ A into B’s SYSROOT_DESTDIR that is “${WORKDIR}/sysroot-destdir”."15:19
rburtonhm i'd reword it more15:20
rburtonbut yes the short version is s/B/A/15:21
Jones42would you mind giving me an example? I'll happily send the patch, but rewording is really out of my comfort zone, tbh15:22
Jones42otherwise I'll just send the minimal patch and wait for someone else to complain ;-)15:25
rburtonsend the minimal patch, its an improvement!15:26
Jones42alright, thanks! :-)15:26
rburtonmy brain isn't in 'write coherent english' mode right now :)15:26
* RP feels simply like "my brain isn't"15:38
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Jones42Ah, I think I have another one: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#ref-classes-staging , "Stage One"16:30
Jones42The do_populate_sysroot task copies a subset of these files (from D) into ${SYSROOT_DESTDIR}. - alright until here16:31
Jones42"A shared state (sstate) object is built from these files and the files are placed into a subdirectory of build/tmp/sysroots-components/."16:31
Jones42^ shouldn't that be part of "Stage Two" which covers do_prepare_recipe_sysroot ?16:31
frayI don't remember if the sysroot-components is done as part of the staging or as part of prepare_recipe_sysroot for another one.  I know that prepare_recipe_sysroot builds up the components in a recipe specific directory, but probably not the generic sysroot-components?16:33
Jones42well, in https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#build-tmp-sysroots-components it says it's populated by do_prepare_recipe_sysroot16:34
rburtonno, it doesn't16:35
rburtonit says prepare_recipe_sysroot links from there16:35
fraythere are two different ones.  There is the WORKDIR and the generic version.  The WORKDIR is package specific and definitely populated in prepare_recipe_sysroot.. but the generic one though I'm not sure about16:35
Jones42rburton: ah, true. but how do things end up in there then?16:37
Jones42fray: I think the tmp/sysroots-components is the only directory. I haven't seen any WORKDIR sysroots-components yet16:39
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fraytmp/sysroot-components is a common (shared) directory where stuff is extracted/copied.  But inside of a WORKDIR, we don't use sysroot-components, it uses sysroot-native... in the WROKDIR16:42
frayI just don't remember how all of that is populate.. it's changed since I last had to dig into the internals16:42
fraythe WORKDIR/sysroot-native are links to the tmp/sysroot-components (if I remember right)16:42
fray(and I might be off on the directory names)16:42
Jones42hm... so can I understand the tmp/sysroots-components as the method to "bypass" the recipe isolation between thw WORKDIRs?16:43
fraysysroot-components is an optimization, in that multipel workdirs can all link to the same component avoiding having to re-extract and validate stuff..16:44
frayadditionally it is used by a few external scripts (like runqemu) to find select components16:44
fraybut a build process (running in WORKDIR) should ONLY access WORKDIR specific items16:45
Jones42but then why not link directly to the (source recipe's) sysroot-destdir?16:49
JaMaJones42: populate_sysroot(_setscene) populates TMPDIR/sysroot-components, prepare_recipe_sysroot populates RSS (recipe-sysroot, recipe-sysroot-native) with hardlinks to TMPDIR/sysroot-components/<all-task-dependencies>16:50
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frayWORKDIRs are temporary.. use rm_work and they go away as soon as that recipes build is complete16:50
Jones42hmm... alright, it's starting to make sense, thanks16:51
rburtoneach recipe produces output files in its own WORKDIR.  first it do_installs into D (workdir/image) and that gets turned into packages (workdir/package) and sysroot. the final sysroot goes via sstate into tmp/sysroot-components.  then when another recipe is built, each of its depends sysroots from sysroot-components is hardlinked into that other recipe's workdir/recipe-sysroot.  this way every recipe _only_ sees its explicit dependencies.17:01
RPmcfrisk: is there any chance we could work on https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/19260 ?17:01
khemjclsn: checking for /etc/printcap... configure: error: cannot check for file existence when cross compiling17:04
khemthats the error you want to chase17:04
khemjclsn: which branch are you on ? are you having this change https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/oe/patch/20220405210020.20184-1-pkj@axis.com/17:06
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