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| ycoto | Hi, I am new to xfce desktop I want to integrate xfce desktop with kirkstone. what should I refer for approach? | 07:11 |
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| Granjow | I have a recipe which copies a file to /etc, but it does not end up in the image. Why can that be? I check in do_install:append() with `ls` whether it is copied to ${D}${sysconfdir}, and it is there. It is also in FILES:${PN}. But it is not there in the image. | 07:43 |
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| piie | hello, I just saw, that busybox was updated to 1.37 last week. Has anyone experienced any issues with that? | 07:54 |
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| Granjow | Ok, problem solved, I did not have the package in RDEPENDS, but it was compiled nontheless because of dependencies | 08:09 |
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| rfuentess | Hi, I'm getting some problem testing if my changes in a recipe are well or not | 09:50 |
| rfuentess | I want to add an extra service file on the recipe that will be enabled by default. I have `SYSTEMD_SERVICE:{PN}:append = " new_service.service"` | 09:51 |
| rfuentess | but not sure if the line SYSTEMD_AUTO_ENABLE:${PN} = enable` doesn't need any change or I should add something else | 09:51 |
| rfuentess | any tip on how debugging ? | 09:51 |
| Jones42_ | rfuentess: https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#systemd -> auto enable should not be necessary | 10:20 |
| Jones42_ | you can always check the resulting rootfs and see if your systemd service files look right | 10:21 |
| Jones42_ | or have a look at other recipes and try to spot what they are doing differently | 10:22 |
| rfuentess | Jones42_: thanks, one extra question just to be sure. If the main .bb file has already the `inherit systemd` the .bbappend where I'm tying to add the second service should also include the directive? | 10:22 |
| qschulz | rfuentess: nope | 10:23 |
| rfuentess | thanks, I just wanted to confirm :) | 10:23 |
| Jones42_ | rfuentess: I also found it helpful to read the systemd.bbclass file to get a closer understanding what is happening | 10:24 |
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| rfuentess | Jones42_: thanks , I think I'll do that to try to understand my issue | 10:35 |
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| basilh | Hi, my builds hang today, and I get this warning: WARNING: BB_HASHSERVE_UPSTREAM is not valid, unable to connect hash equivalence server at 'hashserv.yocto.io:8687': TimeoutError('timed out'). Is the Hash Equivalence Server down or is the problem on my end? | 12:44 |
| rburton | if you've a recent release, switch to BB_HASHSERVE_UPSTREAM = "wss://hashserv.yoctoproject.org/ws" | 12:45 |
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| basilh | thank you! I will try | 12:47 |
| basilh | That fixed it, thank you! | 12:52 |
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| tlwoerner | the new libgpiod 2.2 will build with poky, but won't with oe nodistro | 14:13 |
| tlwoerner | any idea what nodistro is missing to make this work? | 14:13 |
| tlwoerner | (libgpiod is meta-openembedded/meta-oe) | 14:14 |
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| rburton | tlwoerner: what's the error? | 14:22 |
| tlwoerner | something about gobject-introspection | 14:25 |
| tlwoerner | (let me get it for you) | 14:25 |
| tlwoerner | https://paste.ack.tf/a9ec33 | 14:26 |
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| tlwoerner | adding gobject-introspection and/or gobject-introspection-native to DEPENDS doesn't help | 14:27 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: master or a stable branch? | 14:28 |
| tlwoerner | master | 14:28 |
| tlwoerner | (i haven't checked any others) | 14:28 |
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| tlwoerner | the 2.2 update to libgpiod was just added to meta-openembedded, so i assume it's only master there | 14:29 |
| rburton | tlwoerner: do you already inherit gobject-introspection? | 14:29 |
| rburton | the distro feature for that is backfilled, so it should be on in nodistro | 14:30 |
| rburton | hm it isn't that's weird | 14:30 |
| tlwoerner | yes! that's what i thought too | 14:31 |
| tlwoerner | the recipe inherits it, yes: https://github.com/openembedded/meta-openembedded/blob/master/meta-oe/recipes-support/libgpiod/libgpiod_2.2.bb#L3 | 14:31 |
| rburton | check if the configure has a --disable-introspection, as that should just work and turn it off. | 14:32 |
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| rburton | RP: DISTRO=nodistro bitbake-getvar DISTRO_FEATURES <-- no backfill features... | 14:33 |
| rburton | i swear i wrote a selftest for the backfill logic | 14:35 |
| tlwoerner | yes, there is an option to disable introspection | 14:36 |
| tlwoerner | in libgpiod's ./configure | 14:36 |
| rburton | the class should be passing the option | 14:36 |
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| hnez | We've also seen the same libgpiod build errors for master builds in the meta-labgrid CI https://github.com/labgrid-project/meta-labgrid/actions (the two failed builds). But did not get around to investigating it yet … | 14:45 |
| rburton | i fear that something sneaked into master | 14:46 |
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| rburton | hm fun, bitbake-getvar doesn't actually evaluate enough to show backfills | 14:53 |
| RP | rburton: I see DISTRO_FEATURES="acl alsa bluetooth debuginfod ext2 ipv4 ipv6 pcmcia usbgadget usbhost wifi xattr nfs zeroconf pci 3g nfc x11 vfat seccomp" which looks backfilled? | 14:54 |
| rburton | DISTRO_FEATURES_BACKFILL = "pulseaudio sysvinit gobject-introspection-data ldconfig" | 14:55 |
| RP | rburton: hmm :( | 14:55 |
| rburton | RP: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15638 | 14:55 |
| rburton | its not running the anonpy in base.bbclass? | 14:56 |
| RP | rburton: clearly not | 14:56 |
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| vmeson | Is ChatGPT suitable and trustworthy for mentoring some newbies? ChatGPT's response: yeah, i can walk you through bitbake basics and yocto layers, recipes, etc. planning on deep-diving or just need an overview? | 15:55 |
| rburton | i wouldn't trust it at all | 15:55 |
| vmeson | rburton: I assume that most people know that ChatGPT's output needs to be verified. There's even a custom GPT called Yocto Project Expert. I have no idea is this would really be useful. | 15:57 |
| rburton | last time i asked it questions it made up some variable names | 15:57 |
| khem | having locally trained model on YP content might be better than a general LLM | 15:59 |
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| * Ch^W has some timezone confusion... | 16:15 | |
| Ch^W | The 2024.12 virtual summit is showing up as noon-6pm each day, but I am having trouble convincing myself what timezone that refers to. | 16:15 |
| Ch^W | Mostly because 6pm in Seattle is going to be 0200 UTC, which seems weird to me. | 16:16 |
| rburton | in the past its been 12-18 UTC | 16:17 |
| rburton | (for maximum overlap between europe and america) | 16:17 |
| Ch^W | That would make a lot more sense. | 16:18 |
| Ch^W | Other than the part about being online at 0500 for something other than an emergency. | 16:19 |
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| Ch^W | The calendar links get added to my calendar from 12-6pm Pacific Time. That has to be wrong. | 16:40 |
| * Ch^W sends some emails... | 16:40 | |
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| khem | Ch^W:default on pretalx is UTC and IIRC you can choose your local TZ then the times are more understandable perhaps those are UTC times | 16:45 |
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| RP | vmeson: chatgpt is not appropriate at all | 17:05 |
| RP | vmeson: the bitbake related output I've seen from it was seemingly plausible but entirely wrong too | 17:06 |
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| landgraf | at least not for newbies... sometimes it generates garbage from random snippets and we don't want to answer "why this chatgps's `stuff` doesn't work?" here I think. | 17:17 |
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| nerdboy | hmm, anybody working with orin NX and antmicro layers? their orin baseboard demo build is missing the 8GB orin NX machine yet meta-tegra is on master | 18:59 |
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| nerdboy | which must be old i guess... | 19:00 |
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| sarahn | nerdboy: I would try the meta-tegra gitter if you haven't already | 19:21 |
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| pbiel | Hi, some time ago I added missing trigger support for one of the iio/accel device I needed and I just realized that there is a driver that supports this functionality but it's quite old (2009) and designed as drivers/input. Moreover these two drivrs are mutual exclusive meaning I cannot use iio driver and input driver (with trigger functionality) at the same time. Does it make sense to try to upstream updated iio version of the driver? | 20:19 |
| pbiel | not this channel, sorry | 20:26 |
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| tlwoerner | rburton: it looks like the 'ptest' DISTRO_FEATURE is the key | 22:33 |
| tlwoerner | rburton: by default there are 5 "extra" features in poky that aren't in nodistro: multiarch, opengl, ptest, vulkan, and wayland | 22:34 |
| tlwoerner | in both the poky and nodistro cases, libgpiod is being configured with "--enable-introspection" | 22:35 |
| tlwoerner | maybe that's something that needs more investigation | 22:35 |
| tlwoerner | but the 'ptest' feature included in poky is the key as to why poky succeeds and nodistro doesn't | 22:35 |
| tlwoerner | i would assume having ptest in DISTRO_FEATURES pulls in gobject-introspection so that --enable-introspection works | 22:36 |
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| RP | tlwoerner: it should be backfilled into nodistro through meta/conf/bitbake.conf:DISTRO_FEATURES_BACKFILL = "pulseaudio sysvinit gobject-introspection-data ldconfig" :/ | 22:53 |
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| RP | tlwoerner: bitbake -e | grep DISTRO_FEATURES= does show it | 22:54 |
| RP | tlwoerner: bitbake-getvar is broken for this, ross opened a bug | 22:55 |
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| khem | pbiel: upstreaming iio driver seems the right thing to do IMO | 23:24 |
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| khem | tlwoerner_: ah I think you have found a step more into libgpiod issue that JaMa was reporting, and now I understand how it was building for all of my CI but one, because this one build does not use ptest | 23:43 |
| khem | checking for gobject-introspection... configure: error: gobject-introspection-1.0 is not installed | 23:43 |
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| tlwoerner | khem: yes exactly | 23:45 |
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| tlwoerner | if i remove 'ptest' from poky's DISTRO_FEATURES, then libgpiod fails there too | 23:45 |
| tlwoerner | rburton believes he wrote a test to ensure the gobject-introspection mechanism is working correctly, but his actual test results are probably occluded by having ptest enabled! ;-) | 23:47 |
| khem | yeah the importance of defaults | 23:53 |
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