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| Guest27 | hello yocto team i have one issue found in embedded build system , the issue i have used meta-odroid layer and i have using kirkstone release to build odroid-xu4 linux custom image but the problem is this image is not show output on hdmi through connected LCD and any monitor how to enable this feature to support hdmi. | 04:50 |
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| arniju | please give me response for my this problem ?? | 04:53 |
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| arniju | ?? | 05:45 |
| arniju | please give me answer what i have ask ?/ | 05:45 |
| arniju | hello yocto team i have one issue found in embedded build system , the issue i have used meta-odroid layer and i have using kirkstone release to build odroid-xu4 linux custom image but the problem is this image is not show output on hdmi through connected LCD and any monitor how to enable this feature to support hdmi. | 05:45 |
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| Dvergatal | rburton: i dunno this kind of problem has showed up yesterday about Fetcher failure for URL: 'https://eula-downloads.yoctoproject.org/index.php'. URL doesn't work | 08:07 |
| Dvergatal | rburton: but it started to work again, odd... | 08:09 |
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| ddee51 | Can someone please explain how the environment setup scripts should be managed when multiple architectures are involved? Specifically, how should the selection process work when multiple scripts are installed?" | 08:40 |
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| rburton | Dvergatal: we stopped using that as a connectivity check URL in 2016... | 09:02 |
| rburton | RP: bah ok thanks | 09:03 |
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| rburton | RP: i think we've a problem with python rebuilds as it can't wipe the build tree | 09:04 |
| rburton | i had to force a rebuild of numpy earlier | 09:04 |
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| agodard | moto-timo: sure, let me know if you want me to create a bug and describe it there, so we can start a discussion | 09:06 |
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| arniju | can you suggest me how to run any embedded board custom image on qemu emulator in yocto project | 09:17 |
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| arniju | [11:15:41] <arniju> hello yocto team i have one issue found in embedded build system , the issue i have used meta-odroid layer and i have using kirkstone release to build odroid-xu4 linux custom image but the problem is this image is not show output on hdmi through connected LCD and any monitor how to enable this feature to support hdmi. | 09:18 |
| arniju | [11:30:39] ← steelswords94 has left (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) | 09:18 |
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| RP | rburton: that shouldn't affect the autobuilder though :/ | 09:21 |
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| Dvergatal | rburton: thx | 09:53 |
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| rburton | RP: double bah. maybe numpy is just terrible at parallel builds. | 09:55 |
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| RP | rburton: maybe. I don't know how much of -next is valid or not at this point :/ | 10:00 |
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| usvi | how can I list what compilers are used exactly to build my image? is it available if I print the environment? | 10:40 |
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| mckoan | usvi: AFAIK you can't | 10:47 |
| mckoan | usvi: or at least you can run 'file anyexecutable' on your target system | 10:47 |
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| usvi | well this is troubling | 10:52 |
| usvi | my workmate manages to build different checksummet binaries from the same sources and I am trying to figure out wtf | 10:53 |
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| usvi | funny thing even the pkg versions are the same in opkg list-installed (or whatever it was) | 10:54 |
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| Jones42 | usvi: are you speaking of the whole image or just a single package binary? | 11:20 |
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| Jones42 | what i sometimes do, is to edit the run.do_compile file, add some debug stuff and simply re-run it: ./run.do_compile | 11:22 |
| usvi | Jones42: I have some c/c++ projects included in the image I'm interested about | 11:23 |
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| Jones42 | usvi: I'm by far no expert, but I found the temp folder very helpful. It shows you exactly which things are being executed during configure/compile/... | 11:25 |
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| usvi | ok thanks, I will take a look | 11:25 |
| Jones42 | (note: not "tmp", but tmp/work/**/<packagename>/<version>/temp) | 11:25 |
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| usvi | thanks | 11:26 |
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| rburton | usvi: for native stuff your host compiler is used, but for target then its the gcc-cross recipe | 11:38 |
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| rburton | usvi: you can use something like diffoscope to compare the two binaries and see if the difference is silly things like build paths, or actual different code generation/linkage | 11:39 |
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| usvi | rburton: alright. I'm no expert but I would assume that regardless of paths, the binaries would be the same | 12:04 |
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| usvi | rburton: We have the same virtual machine given to him and to me years ago | 12:05 |
| usvi | he must have messed his up somehow | 12:05 |
| rburton | usvi: that's a rash assumption | 12:05 |
| usvi | because our virtual machines are the our way of ensuring identical build environment | 12:05 |
| rburton | build paths can be embedded in binaries, and builds may be non-deterministic in nature | 12:06 |
| rburton | both of which are bugs but can happen | 12:06 |
| usvi | for image level differences I don't mind and I know they will probably happen, but single executable changes are the bothering thing for me | 12:07 |
| rburton | we spent a lot of effort making oe-core build reproducibily, it's not a given | 12:07 |
| rburton | but diffoscope will tell you where the differences are and if they're subtle or major | 12:08 |
| usvi | alright, I will try that, thanks | 12:08 |
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| usvi | I'll try to report back about if stuff was resolved | 12:23 |
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| Grogu68 | What the heck is IRC? never hear of it. but apparently this is where one gets community support for yocto | 13:17 |
| usvi | this is IRC, welcome | 13:18 |
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| aduskett | Older than the internet | 13:29 |
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| rburton | never actually looked that up, created in 1988! | 13:49 |
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| JaMa | sakoman: can you please check why https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/189665 was backported to dunfell, but doesn't seem to be included in kirkstone? with pipes removed in python-3.13 it's one of reasons why kirkstone doesn't parse with python-3.13 on host, I'll send backport request shortly (I though I already did, but when searching my inbox I've found only this dunfell request | 13:52 |
| JaMa | instead) | 13:52 |
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| sakoman | JaMa: probably just an oversight . I've cherry-picked it now, so no need to send a request | 13:56 |
| JaMa | already done, feel free to ignore the e-mail :) | 13:56 |
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| sakoman | JaMa: Thanks for catching that! | 13:58 |
| JaMa | np, using bleeding edge gentoo for some builds help me catch all weird stuff :) | 13:59 |
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| JaMa | and using container with ubuntu-24.10 for kirkstone buidls helps to catch some other missing backports | 14:00 |
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| sakoman | JaMa: I appreciate the help :-) | 14:03 |
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| Grogu75 | My first yocto question: what does "yocto project" mean? Is it the name of the _effort_ to develop a tool (yocto) and/or it's the name of the tool? I find it used both ways. Is it simply ambiguous? | 14:31 |
| RP | Grogu75: The Yocto Project collects together a number of tools/techniques/people/infrastructure to make building custom OSes easier | 14:33 |
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| RP | Grogu75: so it is the name of the overall effort and is an umbrella project name | 14:33 |
| Grogu75 | so both ... was thinking that even though no one has said that clearly till now | 14:34 |
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| vermaete | question: is meta-ros maintained? | 15:27 |
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| vermaete | Last commits on it is some months ago. | 15:28 |
| vermaete | Although ROS and meta-ros has some many names, releases and branches I'm not sure I'm looking at the correct place. | 15:28 |
| vermaete | well: ROS2, just to be correct | 15:29 |
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| JaMa | yes it's maintained (not by me anymore) some changes were merged few minutes ago, see other branches https://github.com/ros/meta-ros/branches | 15:32 |
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| vermaete | JaMa Thanks, I guess scarthap-next is kind of the branch I need to develop? | 15:36 |
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| gmorell | any hints on packaging pyproject.toml-based dependencies, my deb is missing the actual python code for whatever reason. I've added the prepend as described here https://stackoverflow.com/a/78324351/2821302 to the recipe, but I'm still ending up with a deb that is missing the actual python library and only has the headers | 18:20 |
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| JonasJalling | Hello, what is the general consensus. I have two almost identical machines - same arch, similar rootfs, similar kernel config. If I want to apply different kernel patches and configuration in general, do I make a layer for each machine, or do I do machine overrides in the different recipes? | 18:34 |
| JonasJalling | Well, it\s actually more than two, but the concept is the same - only small changes between them. I tend towards creating a machine layer for each, but I don\t know if its over the top | 18:35 |
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| gmorell | figured it out by using python_poetry_core instead of setuptools | 18:38 |
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