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| usvi | rburton: the simple helloworld project builds always with same checksums. the more complex canbus-handler project is path-dependant | 07:28 |
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| usvi | I got an idea. I will peel off stuff from canbus-handler until it resembles the helloworld | 08:39 |
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| usvi | do intermediate builds and check when does the checksum stabilize | 08:39 |
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| usvi | ok my idiot workmate had bundled in a stupid watchdog .so which is not stripped | 08:54 |
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| rburton | unstripped is fine assuming it gets the right debug path remapping done | 09:54 |
| rburton | honestly i please just run diffoscope across two of your packages and it will tell you what the problem is | 09:55 |
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| usvi | I will | 09:59 |
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| RP | usvi: which version of yoctoproject/bitbake are you seeing this on? | 10:05 |
| RP | usvi: actually, I don't think it is what I was wondering about so ignore me. As rburton says, seeing what changed is important. Even running strings on the two binaries and comparing may be insightful | 10:06 |
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| usvi | (it seems diffoscope is failing to start. displays a curl/wget download prompt and hangs in there forever but this is ubuntu issue, not yocto issue) | 10:14 |
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| usvi | OK strings is showing differences | 10:16 |
| usvi | /tmp/Project-xxxxx_yocto/workdir/arago-tmp-default-glibc/work/armv7at2hf-neon-oe-linux-gnueabi/canbus-handler/git+AUTOINC+deffada7ed-r0/recipe-sysroot/usr/include/nlohmann/json.hpp | 10:18 |
| usvi | it is listing location of this single hpp file with full path | 10:19 |
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| RP | usvi: that at least gives a hint at which build of the build/code might be struggling. I'd look at where that header is used and then at the compile logs and see what commands are being used to compile it | 10:20 |
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| usvi | (compiling the program with make on host without yocto and running strip+strings shows /usr/include/nlohmann/json.hpp , so nlohmann or build imprints the header name inside the binary => not a yocto problem) | 10:28 |
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| usvi | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30139852/why-does-the-executable-binary-file-contain-paths-of-included-header-files | 10:30 |
| usvi | this is my problem | 10:30 |
| usvi | or at least towards the direction of my problem | 10:31 |
| qschulz | FYI https://forum.openwrt.org/t/major-change-notice-new-package-manager/215682/3 | 10:32 |
| qschulz | IIRC we had already forked opkg and maintained most of it ourselves but openwrt won't be using opkg anymore going forward | 10:32 |
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| RP | qschulz: we were the original! | 10:41 |
| qschulz | Ah, one more thing openwrt forked then and is regretting (hello Buildroot :D) | 10:42 |
| RP | we took it over from handhelds.org, kind of, with the name change from ipkg to opkg | 10:42 |
| qschulz | RP: so this changes nothing for us I guess | 10:42 |
| RP | qschulz: no | 10:42 |
| qschulz | except that we lose one big user of the package manager, though it was probably heavily forked | 10:42 |
| qschulz | RP: thanks for the history lesson :) | 10:42 |
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| RP | qschulz: I'm not sure we've seen many patches from them | 10:43 |
| RP | qschulz: its a crazy history! | 10:43 |
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| rburton | qschulz: i'm really interested in apk though and do wonder if we should integrate it. | 10:57 |
| rburton | pretty sure there's at least two wip branches for integration and a package manager that has wide adoption is good | 10:58 |
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| qschulz | rburton: IIRC there was an attempt at supporting apk a few years ago | 10:59 |
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| usvi | every header inclusion includes the path /_\ | 11:03 |
| rburton | qschulz: the refactoring of the package code was motivated by an out-of-tree apk backend but i can't remember where it is | 11:04 |
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| LetoThe2nd | if I want to inject version specific patches, shouldn' t FILESEXTRAPATHS:prepend := "${THISDIR}/${PV}:" in the xxx_%.bbappend do the trick? So as long as the patch files in the various PV-named directories are named the same, I'd expect the right one to be picked up. But bitbake doesn't seem to find them. | 11:23 |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: PV is already in the search path | 11:26 |
| rburton | well, PN-PV/ is | 11:26 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: ok? | 11:26 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton: so in my example I would expect u-boot-2024.04 to be picked up, but nay :-( | 11:29 |
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| rburton | oh right bbappend, yeah you'll need to add it | 11:32 |
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| LetoThe2nd | rburton: is there a way to dump the search path generation? something is just not like I expect it. | 11:39 |
| rburton | yeah its just a bitbake variable, so bitbake-getvar | 11:40 |
| rburton | or the fetch log will list where its looking | 11:40 |
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| LetoThe2nd | the fetch log (a.k.a. error) is about 200 lines, and manually reading it not exactly a lot of fun. | 11:44 |
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| LetoThe2nd | and the entries relative to the bbappend don't seem to have ${PN}-${PV}, but always defaultpkgname-1.0 | 11:45 |
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| ak77 | hmm.. is there a way to prevent modesetting during boot, let weston do the modesetting? (rpi4) | 11:55 |
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| jdiez | hi, i have about a gigabyte of files in /opt/$sdk/$version/sysroots/$target/usr/lib/openssl/ptest. how can I exclude those from the sdk build? I don't have `ptest-pkgs` in SDKIMAGE_FEATURES | 12:13 |
| rburton | jdiez: what release? | 12:15 |
| jdiez | scarthgap | 12:16 |
| rburton | jdiez: SDKIMAGE_FEATURES talks about the native part of the sdk, so you have ptest in DISTRO_FEATURES. brute force: turn off ptest entirely if you don't want it. or set PTEST_ENABLED=1 in a openssl bbappend. ptest shouldn't in the sdk sysroots so that's a bug for sure. | 12:16 |
| jdiez | oe-pkgdata-util says these files are owned by openssl-dbg. I also have removed `dbg-pkgs` from my SDKIMAGE_FEATURES | 12:16 |
| rburton | ah i knew this was familiar | 12:17 |
| rburton | one solution would be to cherry-pick dfaf1cba9f30c6b07836fe217e1ebc83bc6aec8a and 92f09a4269e45e09643a7e7aafd2811cfd47cb68 | 12:17 |
| jdiez | from openembedded (i assume) or poky? | 12:18 |
| jdiez | hm dont see those commits on either repo | 12:19 |
| rburton | those are oe-core shas | 12:19 |
| jdiez | thank you | 12:21 |
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| mischief | i seem to have a bug with icecc not being used by out-of-tree kernel recipes | 12:28 |
| mischief | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes/icecc.bbclass#n377 this is assigned to None when KERNEL_CC is set but out-of-tree modules do not seem to inherit kernel.bbclass :-| | 12:29 |
| jdiez | rburton: (sorry, I'm still new to yocto development in general) how would one request a backport of those patches to scarthgap? | 12:30 |
| mischief | i feel like the check for the kernel.bbclass inherit at https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes/icecc.bbclass#n117 is kind of pointless if we're already just checking for KERNEL_CC | 12:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: so yeah the ${PN}-${PV} definitely expands to "defaultpkgname-1.0", which feels extremely unintended to me. | 12:31 |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: how are you determining that? | 12:34 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: inspecting FILESEXTRAPATHS in bitbake -e | 12:35 |
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| rburton | maybe its evaluating too early, that would be annoying (thank to the :=) | 12:36 |
| Saur | rburton: We have a meta-apk layer that was never taken into production and noone has worked on it for a couple of years due to personnel changes. | 12:37 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: hints on how to change it? | 12:39 |
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| rburton | LetoThe2nd: not sure you can from a bbappend | 12:40 |
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| rburton | you need to use := to get the right THISDIR but then you can't use PV as it hasn't been determined yet (afaict) | 12:40 |
| rburton | maybe just use files/ and embed PV into the filename of the patch (bit ick) | 12:41 |
| LetoThe2nd | rburton: or use versioned bbappends. | 12:43 |
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| rburton | yeah or that | 12:46 |
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| JaMa | https://git.yoctoproject.org/yocto-autobuilder2/commit/?id=1cc6527125b81d59656a761c091925019114e788 was merged 10 days ago, but https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/buildrequests/580650 shows branch_meta-qt6 6.6.0 what's going on? | 12:50 |
| JaMa | mathieudb: ^ | 12:50 |
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| JaMa | git grep branch_meta-qt6 '6\.6\.0' doesn't show any other place in yocto-autobuilder2 nor yocto-autobuilder-helper still using 6.6.0 | 12:53 |
| mathieudb | JaMa: hmmm, let me check | 12:53 |
| qschulz | LetoThe2nd: that's something I was bothered about too a few years ago | 12:53 |
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| qschulz | I think this would be a very good addition to bitbake-getvar or something like that | 12:53 |
| qschulz | or oe-something-util-whatever | 12:54 |
| qschulz | but I never got the time to look into it and now I barely do stuff in Yocto anymore :/ | 12:54 |
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| LetoThe2nd | qschulz: yeah possibly. I'm just doing way too little real hands on too, and if I do then its most build testing. | 12:54 |
| mathieudb | JaMa: it seems correct in the configuration, maybe the autobuilder was not restarted since this modification | 12:55 |
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| mathieudb | RP: any clue about this ? Was the ab restarted in the past 10 days ? | 12:56 |
| JaMa | mathieudb: ok, lets see what happens when the build is started | 12:56 |
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| mathieudb | JaMa: this build will likely use 6.6.0. I believe we have to restart the whole autobuilder service | 12:59 |
| JaMa | it might build fine with 6.6.0 | 12:59 |
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| JaMa | I was just surprised to see it and was wondering if it fetches the current configuration when the build is started, I didn't know that it needs restart to refresh yocto-autobuilder2 | 13:00 |
| JaMa | ah valkrie was updated and this is the "old" autobuilder? | 13:01 |
| rburton | ah yeah don't look at typhoon | 13:02 |
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| mathieudb | Oh, I didn't pay attention ! Yes, probably typhoon was not restarted for a long time | 13:04 |
| mathieudb | yet, it seems to be the same on valkyrie :) https://valkyrie.yoctoproject.org/#/builders/51/builds/9 | 13:04 |
| mathieudb | oh no, old build | 13:05 |
| JaMa | and I didn't notice that my old browser tab points to old AB and there was a build scheduled few hours ago, so I assumed it's just waiting in queue | 13:05 |
| mathieudb | JaMa: https://valkyrie.yoctoproject.org/#/builders/51/builds/11 | 13:05 |
| JaMa | yup looking at those warnings already | 13:05 |
| JaMa | unfortunately OSE has many buildpaths issues (many caused by using ld-is-gold and many by badly written components) | 13:06 |
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| DvorkinDmitry | which layer whould you recommend for IMA/EVM: meta-security or meta-secure-core? | 13:29 |
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| rburton | zeddii: what's your plan for kernel upgrades before the next release? | 17:01 |
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| rburton | zeddii: are you skipping 6.11 and jumping straight to 6.12 when it comes out? | 17:04 |
| alb3rt0 | do we have existing recipes for bitbake TI TMS320F2837? | 17:05 |
| rburton | alb3rt0: isn't that a microcontroller that can't run linux? | 17:05 |
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| zeddii | 6.12 and 6.6, + -dev at 6.13+ | 17:10 |
| zeddii | 6.1 deleted. | 17:10 |
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| alb3rt0 | rburton yes, I would like just bitbake and create the artifact | 17:12 |
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| RP | JaMa, mathieudb: we probably need to reconfig or restart the controller | 17:13 |
| rburton | alb3rt0: you should ask TI if they have a layer to do that as they're active yocto developers. if your code is using zephyr then there's a meta-zephyr, for example | 17:13 |
| RP | JaMa, mathieudb: I'm fairly sure it was "reconfig"'d so it probably needs a full restart, which will kill all builds | 17:15 |
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| RP | JaMa: oh, that is the old autobuilder | 17:16 |
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| RP | JaMa: you want valkyrie: https://valkyrie.yoctoproject.org/#/builders/51 | 17:16 |
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| RP | and I should have read on first, you worked that out :/ | 17:17 |
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| rfs613 | RP: any feedback on my patch for make_last() in rootfs-postcommands? | 18:13 |
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| RP | rfs613: from what I remember it looked fine, I was waiting for it to get through testing | 19:15 |
| RP | I was a little surprised that code wasn't working | 19:16 |
| rfs613 | RP: me too ;-) | 19:17 |
| rfs613 | I had noticed that backup files (like /etc/shadow- with a dash on the end) were still present in the rootfs | 19:18 |
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| rfs613 | there's a task to clean those up, and it runs, but runs before users are created. | 19:18 |
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| usvi | RP: ok, my stuff is finally fixed. the pure header library I was including in my code was caching the path for assert calls. I needed to prefix the inclusion with #define NDEBUG and the path is finally gone. not a yocto bug, sorry for the noise and thank you for your help | 20:37 |
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| rburton | usvi: if its using __FILE__ then -ffile-prefix-map will rewrite the path for you anyway, so i'm curious how its getting the path without using __FILE__ or anything else that gets remapped by gcc if you use the correct flags | 21:13 |
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| usvi | rburton: it is this file: https://github.com/nlohmann/json/blob/develop/single_include/nlohmann/json.hpp | 21:16 |
| usvi | direct grep of __FILE__ yields nothing | 21:16 |
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| usvi | it is probably hiding somewhere else, some of the cinluded headers probably. or some clever macro trick | 21:17 |
| usvi | https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/error/assert | 21:20 |
| usvi | possibly the reason | 21:20 |
| usvi | since #define NDEBUG fixes it for me | 21:20 |
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| usvi | https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/error/assert | 21:21 |
| usvi | bingo | 21:21 |
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| mischief | is there a way to find out why a particular package is in the image? there's no obvious RDEPENDS on it.. | 23:32 |
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| rfs613 | mischief: you can use 'bitbake -g' to generate a .dot file showing all the dependencies | 23:35 |
| mischief | rfs613: sadly, that does not seem to help with tracking down _package_ dependencies. | 23:38 |
| rfs613 | it can be a handful to parse/understand. but it should help you find out why it's included | 23:40 |
| rfs613 | eg. what other package is causing it to be included... | 23:41 |
| rfs613 | can you share the package name? | 23:42 |
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| RP | mischief: the other trick is to delete the recipe in question, then see what complains about it being missing | 23:49 |
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| rfs613 | nice trick! | 23:51 |
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| * rfs613 once tried to actually plot the .dot file... that was a mistake ;-) | 23:54 | |
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| RP | rfs613: everyone tries that once | 23:55 |
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| rfs613 | maybe there should be a big warning printed ... or not quite valid .dot syntax ;-) | 23:55 |
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