| Jones42 | ak77: i assume you already know about IMAGE_TYPEDEP ? that could solve your dependency issue | 00:05 |
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| ak77 | Jones42_: I did not, thank you. | 09:10 |
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| ak77 | hmm.. somehow the wic image has different fstab (few entries auto added) than squashfs image... i found two fstabs, one in image-name/<version>/build-wic/fstab and one in image-name/<version>/rootfs/etc | 10:32 |
| ak77 | is there a way to prevent wic to fiddle with fstab | 10:32 |
| qschulz | agodard: I believe https://docs.yoctoproject.org/overview-manual/concepts.html#source-fetching and other sections following it need to be updated for UNPACKDIR? | 10:33 |
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| ak77 | so, i build squashfs rootfs, that gets 1) integrated into wic image... 2) integrated into rauc bundle. initial install of wic image, rootfs has different fstab than upgraded rootfs. (should be same squashfs) | 10:42 |
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| shoragan | ak77, if you do image-based updates (as you do with RAUC), you should use the same FS image in the RAUC bundle and disk image. | 10:56 |
| shoragan | by default, wic will create a new FS image (to support cases where you split the rootfs into multiple partitions) | 10:56 |
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| ak77 | I was under impression that I do that. wic has --source rootfs type = squashfs, and rauc has squashfs specified. but somehow they are not the same (different fstab!), so, how do I use same fs image ? | 10:58 |
| shoragan | you have squashfs and wic in your IMAGE_FSTYPES? | 11:00 |
| shoragan | i think that in this case, wic will generate it's own squashfs image for including in the disk image | 11:00 |
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| shoragan | you'll also have different filesystem uuids in that case | 11:01 |
| shoragan | as wic doesn't give access the the FS images it generates, RAUC uses the one generated with IMAGE_FSTYPES | 11:03 |
| shoragan | i think you could use --source rawcopy to use that image in wic as well. i normally use genimage and have a separate recipe for the disk image | 11:04 |
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| ak77 | shoragan: yes. both. ok. yes. i will go back to rawcopy now that i know about IMAGE_TYPEDEP | 11:06 |
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| michalsieron | hi there, why is `TARGET_CC_KERNEL_ARCH` by default empty and not equal to something like `TARGET_CC_ARCH`? | 11:10 |
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| michalsieron | I found this ancient commit https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?h=c49f967384ccbfe131bbb33ee518014f3fc4b38f, where `#FIXME: should be this: TARGET_CC_KERNEL_ARCH ?= "${TARGET_CC_ARCH}"` comment was removed | 11:11 |
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| michalsieron | the main thing that I am interested in is how to properly and why don't we pass `-mcpu` option to the kernel compilation | 11:17 |
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| agodard | qschulz: yes most likely, thanks for the notice | 14:06 |
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| Jones42 | is anyone attending the 38C3 in Hamburg next week? | 15:06 |
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| mcfrisk | howto test changes to linux-yocto kernel-meta by applying a patch there? some magic is needed.. | 15:10 |
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| nvil | hi, i'm trying to use namespaces but i i think i'm missing something to be able to use user namespace, i tried remapping uid and guid but the configuration changes nothing. Does anybody know what library, variable am i missing? | 15:26 |
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| rburton | nvil: without seeing what you're doing its hard to say. have you tried just "unshare -rU", that should give you a "root" shell | 16:12 |
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| nvil | rburton: no no i haven't tried it, i'll do it. thanks! | 16:39 |
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| simson2 | Hello, I have a quick question regarding emmc and nand. I understand the technical differences and I'm wondering what reasons speak to use raw nand memory when emmc is so much simpler to use | 17:03 |
| LetoThe2nd | simson2: price. | 17:04 |
| simson2 | hm... makes sense. thanks! | 17:05 |
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| mischief | does anyone know how to get icecc to play nice with ccache | 17:39 |
| rburton | why would you use both? | 17:40 |
| mischief | ccache is defaulted on with INHERIT here.. and i want to use icecc. | 17:40 |
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| rburton | INHERIT:remove = "ccache" | 17:41 |
| mischief | that's certainly one way to do it | 17:42 |
| rburton | its the best way to do it | 17:42 |
| mischief | on the same note, has anyone looked at sccache? | 17:42 |
| mischief | i gave it a go as an experiment but it's not really done | 17:42 |
| rburton | "absolute paths must match to get a cache hit" ouch | 17:43 |
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| mischief | also, i have a patch for icecc :-D | 17:45 |
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| mischief | had to remember how git send-email works.. | 18:02 |
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| JaMa | I see some benefits of using icecc for things like chromium, but do you really have faster external kernel modules builds with it? | 18:08 |
| mischief | there's a lot of them, so yes, somewhat | 18:10 |
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| JaMa | a lot of recipes or many modules in single recipe? how many cores are in your icecc cluster? we were using something like 140 for chromium and very few recipes were able to take advantage of that many cores, with 64 threads on reasonably priced threadripper I don't see a benefit of icecc | 18:19 |
| JaMa | nowadays we're rather using ccache for some of the recipes, but also with a dubious benefits | 18:21 |
| mischief | 128 threads in the cluster. | 18:22 |
| mischief | JaMa: both many recipes (more than 10) and in some cases many modules within recipes | 18:23 |
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| mischief | the cluster is 4 ryzen 9 9950x, so they are pretty fast already.. but there are some actual improvements for things with many source files or building many recipes in parallel | 18:25 |
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| JaMa | would be interesting to compare that with single threadripper, would you be willing to run https://github.com/shr-project/test-oe-build-time there (with icecc enabled for your cluster)? | 18:30 |
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| mischief | well, i was going to build the kirkstone branch, since that's what we use, but meta-firefox wants python2.7 and this container is debian 12.. so ill do scarthgap i suppose | 18:41 |
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| mischief | scarthgap doesn't work either. :-( | 18:44 |
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| Guest43 | Hi there. Am i in the right place to ask about board support? | 19:00 |
| rburton | you can ask. depending on the board there might be better places to ask. | 19:01 |
| Guest43 | Texas Instruments EVMK2GX | 19:02 |
| Guest43 | The Yocto version available in the product page is outdated, so I'm wondering if the board is supported in newer Yocto versions. | 19:04 |
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| Guest43 | I think I missed your reply | 19:16 |
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| Guest43 | any clues? | 19:18 |
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| mischief | NizarNizar: nobody replied, but you might go look in https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-ti | 19:20 |
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| NizarNizar | thank you | 19:20 |
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| tgamblin | rburton: any insight into the dnf issue kanavin saw with '[OE-core][PATCH] python3: upgrade 3.13.0 -> 3.13.1'? | 19:22 |
| tgamblin | assuming you are used to dealing with dnf/libdnf shenanigans in builds | 19:22 |
| kanavin | you probably will be able to get a coredump out of it with 'ulimit -c unlimited', then run gdb as usual | 19:23 |
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| kanavin | it's not about dnf, it's only triggering a segfault in python itself | 19:24 |
| tgamblin | ah | 19:24 |
| tgamblin | and here I thought that doing a core-image-ptest-python3 build + buildall-qemu + reproducibility test for it would catch everything :) | 19:25 |
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| denix | NizarNizar: if that's K2G, then it's very old and it has been deprecated couple of years ago | 19:27 |
| denix | NizarNizar: the last release that meta-ti had support for K2 platforms, was dunfell | 19:29 |
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| denix | dunfell is EOL, but it was an LTS and lasted from April 2020 until April 2024, so not too-too bad | 19:31 |
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| denix | my understanding is that K2 platforms are slowly being deprecated from upstream as well, like kernel and u-boot | 19:31 |
| kanavin | tgamblin, that's a good test actually, I would not think of anything else to check locally. | 19:34 |
| kanavin | the full-cmdline thing is hitting some corner case. | 19:34 |
| NizarNizar | thank you denix | 19:35 |
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| JaMa | mischief: what exactly doesn't work with scarthgap? | 19:44 |
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| tgamblin | kanavin: what do you mean by running gdb as usual? I've never used it on bitbake/the build process like this | 19:49 |
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| kanavin | tgamblin, I mean that once you have a coredump, and the python executable you can run gdb to get a stack trace of where the crash happens, it's a start | 19:50 |
| mischief | JaMa: well, the scripts in this test-oe-build-time repo | 19:51 |
| mischief | JaMa: perhaps it is the addition of INHERIT += "icecc" that broke it. http://0x0.st/XCff.txt | 19:53 |
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| JaMa | mischief: yes, that's icecc broken in scarthgap, it was recently fixed in master, you would need to cherry-pick that first | 23:59 |
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