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[2025-01-09 00:35:02] <khem> bjdooks: nice, feel free to share your tree with changes
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[2025-01-09 05:18:34] <khem> RP:https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15711
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[2025-01-09 05:18:57] <khem> these kind of problems are very pesky
[2025-01-09 05:22:28] <khem> see - https://valkyrie.yoctoproject.org/#/builders/81/builds/264
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[2025-01-09 08:24:46] <RP> khem: that is indeed an annoying issue :/
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[2025-01-09 10:26:23] <vrajendran> Hello Yocto Team,
[2025-01-09 10:26:24] <vrajendran> I am working on switching from the GCC toolchain and GLIBC library to Clang and Musl in my Yocto project. My Yocto is based on Kirkstone and has been customized for project-specific purposes.
[2025-01-09 10:26:24] <vrajendran> There are prebuilt libraries integrated through recipes in the build system. These prebuilt libraries are provided by different vendors, built using GCC, and linked with GLIBC. Unfortunately, I do not have control over the source code of these libraries.
[2025-01-09 10:26:25] <vrajendran> Is there any way to make these prebuilt libraries compatible with a Clang and Musl environment?
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[2025-01-09 10:37:32] <pbiel> Is there a way to disable extlinux file generation while using bootimg-partition through wic?
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[2025-01-09 11:18:18] <RP> rburton: help. Any idea why https://valkyrie.yoctoproject.org/#/builders/35/builds/743/steps/14/logs/stdio is failing?
[2025-01-09 11:18:35] <RP> oddly, https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?h=master-next&id=20c2fdc6e04de3e0591299f8011b22e67abd9169 didn't help :/
[2025-01-09 11:19:44] <RP> missing addtask :/
[2025-01-09 11:19:52] — RP should talk out loud more often
[2025-01-09 11:20:12] <RP> rburton: thanks :)
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[2025-01-09 11:51:33] <rburton> glad to help
[2025-01-09 11:59:26] <RP> you have to wonder if an addtask on a task which doesn't exist shouldn't be a bug
[2025-01-09 11:59:36] <RP> er, error and needs a bug
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[2025-01-09 12:01:32] <JaMa> RP: just curious, do you plan to merge Steve's last scarthgap update today?
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[2025-01-09 12:05:02] <RP> JaMa: Steve actually pushes them himself these days
[2025-01-09 12:06:23] <JaMa> ah, thanks
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[2025-01-09 12:08:40] <JaMa> I should have noticed the change since April
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[2025-01-09 12:50:32] <RP> rburton: the thing still fails. I think the answer is the ordering changes from the autobuilder config frags. The bigger question is then why was it intermittent
[2025-01-09 12:50:50] <RP> kanavin: we have a worrying problem with config fragments where I'm seeing non-deterministic build results :(
[2025-01-09 12:51:05] <kanavin> RP: is it the same as in bugzilla?
[2025-01-09 12:51:14] <RP> kanavin: probably related
[2025-01-09 12:51:22] <kanavin> RP: I can look but I need a lead
[2025-01-09 12:52:00] <kanavin> is there somewhere on AB I can poke into?
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[2025-01-09 12:55:17] <RP> kanavin: looking at the build results, I think this is deterministic and I misconfigured one of the builds
[2025-01-09 12:56:01] <RP> kanavin: I think https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/commit/?id=b1671dac9f96445f8692540f84a49f77e47819ad isn't quite right though, it should be just before local.conf
[2025-01-09 12:56:51] <RP> kanavin: I suspect we can't do that though as then you can't set OE_FRAGMENTS there ?
[2025-01-09 12:56:56] <kanavin> RP: I was wondering if before or after local.conf is right.
[2025-01-09 12:58:14] <kanavin> but basically yes, the value of OE_FRAGMENTS is obtained and processed when addfragments is parsed
[2025-01-09 12:58:18] <RP> kanavin: being specific, "oe-selftest -r buildoptions.DiskMonTest.test_stoptask_behavior" fails with https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/tree/meta/conf/fragments/yocto-autobuilder/autobuilder.conf?h=master-next since the selftest no longer sets BB_DISKMON_DIRS correctly
[2025-01-09 13:02:36] <kanavin> RP: I think either the selftest itself should be using fragments, or we change the autobuilder fragment to use ?= for that variable, so it's a soft assignment?
[2025-01-09 13:03:04] <RP> kanavin: we can certainly work around it, I'm just worried about how many more of these kinds of issues we'll hit
[2025-01-09 13:03:22] <RP> people expect the fragments to behave the same way :/
[2025-01-09 13:03:53] <RP> ?= won't help btw, it would have to be ??=
[2025-01-09 13:04:17] <RP> ah, it probably will be ok
[2025-01-09 13:04:26] <RP> even I'm getting confused already :(
[2025-01-09 13:06:38] <kanavin> RP: yes there's a usability problem here. The expectation will be that things set in local.conf override what fragment says.
[2025-01-09 13:06:47] <kanavin> and right now it's not like that.
[2025-01-09 13:10:12] <RP> kanavin: not sure what we can do about it though :/
[2025-01-09 13:10:20] <kanavin> On the other hand, people will want to set OE_FRAGMENTS from local.conf too. These expectations seem to be in conflict?
[2025-01-09 13:10:45] <RP> they are, but that won't be obvious to anyone
[2025-01-09 13:12:42] <kanavin> RP: on the other hand distro and machine config do come in after local.conf, so fragments behave that way too
[2025-01-09 13:12:56] <kanavin> I need a bit of lunch now :)
[2025-01-09 13:13:21] <RP> kanavin: good plan. We need to think about this a bit....
[2025-01-09 13:14:18] <kanavin> RP: one quick, and maybe bad idea is to indeed move addfragments to before local.conf, then print some kind of notice/warning/error when OE_FRAGMENTS is tweaked after processing that
[2025-01-09 13:14:58] <RP> I guess the autobuilder will set them in auto.conf :)
[2025-01-09 13:15:11] <RP> I don't think it will make people happy though
[2025-01-09 13:15:54] <kanavin> RP: autobuilder, and bitbake-setup, and bitbake-config-build will do it correctly
[2025-01-09 13:16:15] <kanavin> RP: but if someone places it into local.conf... they should then get notified that it won't work
[2025-01-09 13:16:51] <RP> kanavin: most users configuring a local build will use local.conf, I've done it myself already
[2025-01-09 13:17:18] <kanavin> RP: it's muscle memory, yes :(
[2025-01-09 13:17:42] <kanavin> ----> food
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[2025-01-09 13:25:24] <iceaway> Hi all! I am doing work related to secure boot and I came across something regarding fitImages. I have a fitImage with u-boot + dtb which is loaded by U-boot SPL, and I have a fitImage with the linux kernel, dtb, bootscript and optee loaded by U-boot. In the fitImage helper-class for the kernel the images are hashed, and the configuration is signed
[2025-01-09 13:25:24] <iceaway> to avoid an attacker from injecting an "invalid" configuration (https://docs.u-boot.org/en/latest/usage/fit/signature.html). This is not the case for the fitImage-class used by u-boot however. There the images are signed but not the configuration. Shouldn't these be handled the same way?
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[2025-01-09 13:46:34] <RP> iceaway: probably yes. There are a number of fitimage patches around at the moment but we want to try and simplify the code a bit and ensure we have good test coverage for the right cases
[2025-01-09 13:49:39] <iceaway> RP: Thanks, I have run into some other issues as well with circular dependencies with secure boot, fitImages and bootscripts which was on the mailing list a short while ago. I'll just leave it for now then until an "official" solution is available.
[2025-01-09 13:50:31] <RP> iceaway: help would be welcome with helping find that solution!
[2025-01-09 13:50:49] — RP is trying to keep out of it as I don't have good knowledge on any of it
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[2025-01-09 13:51:00] <rburton> iceaway: you can be the change you want in the world :) by writing down what your goals are and what the problems/gaps/issues are
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[2025-01-09 13:52:00] <iceaway> RP: I would love to help out but the whole chain of events leading up to a secure bootable image is just way over my head I'm afraid with my limited experience with Yocto.
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[2025-01-09 14:16:46] <bjdooks> khem: I didn't get very far as it turns out kvmtool is buildable under buildroot... but still have buildroot/busybox bugs to sort out
[2025-01-09 14:16:59] <bjdooks> khem: i'll update the project repos and readme this aftrenoon and push out what i have got
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[2025-01-09 15:14:42] <Austriker> Hello, I have built a custom linux-yocto distribution for amd-x86-64 hardware but I am experiencing some kernel panic. Example I have an wifi ath11k. When I use it with my kernel config It crashes but If use a defconfig from a ubuntu for example to configure my kernel it works like a charm. Same for nvidia-drm and X11 working together. I get a
[2025-01-09 15:14:42] <Austriker> kernel crash. So based on this I believe there are some kernel modules missing to have my kernel fully working without having a full ubuntu one. What is the best way to debug this kind of issue ? I was going for comparing defconfig and lsmod but it's a slow process and not sure super usefull. cheers
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[2025-01-09 15:25:41] <RP> Austriker: I think you're using the right approach, it isn't a simple thing to work out sadly
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[2025-01-09 16:23:28] <Slimey> howdy everyone
[2025-01-09 16:30:39] <bjdooks> khem: current project state is in the readme on https://gitlab.com/CodethinkLabs/riscv_bigendian
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[2025-01-09 16:35:09] <bjdooks> khem: didn't get very far with yocto, still chasing issues with possible floating point and kvm
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[2025-01-09 16:57:01] <Slimey> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248394655041585162/1326735555349840035/IMG_20250105_182150_960.png?ex=67808245&is=677f30c5&hm=cf9f88462d0e047b09f4af8e89cc639145ef10f11d88c91ef428b7c5424ccf08&
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[2025-01-09 18:51:13] <AdrianF> iceaway: I'm trying to track the status and collect information about fitImages related issues here: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12912. If you have more information, please share it.
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[2025-01-09 20:00:20] <kilobyte_ch> Hello! I'm working on making the boot partition of my Raspberry Pi A/B capable. Typically, the boot partition is a single VFAT partition with all the files located in its root directory. To enable A/B capability, I need two folders on the boot partition: bootA and bootB. Each folder should contain the same files that would normally reside in the root of the boot partition.
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[2025-01-09 20:00:39] <kilobyte_ch> Does anyone know how to modify the Yocto Project to achieve this? Is there a pre-boot-partition image creation hook I could use to copy the files into bootA and bootB? Or is the only proper way to achieve this by modifying everything related to IMAGE_BOOT_FILES using bbappend files?
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