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| [2025-01-22 06:15:48] <ndeuteron> Hi. What causes yocto to parse recipes every time I run it, rather than caching? I thought it was BB_DONT_CACHE but I've set that to 0 and still no joy. | ||
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| [2025-01-22 08:03:25] <LetoThe2nd> ndeuteron: I would assume any kind of modification in a file. | ||
| [2025-01-22 08:05:48] <RP> ndeuteron: try not setting that at all... | ||
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| [2025-01-22 08:19:10] <ndeuteron> LetoThe2nd: It does it with no changes to any files. Back to back builds with nothing changing in between. | ||
| [2025-01-22 08:19:18] <ndeuteron> RP: Hmm, will do. | ||
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| [2025-01-22 08:42:08] <ndeuteron> RP: That works. Thanks! | ||
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| [2025-01-22 08:44:39] <ndeuteron> Is that a bug? Confusing at the very least. | ||
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| [2025-01-22 09:49:25] <RP> ndeuteron: is it a bug? yes and no. Many of our values don't accept "0" as disable :/ | ||
| [2025-01-22 09:49:39] <RP> it requires a lot more processing than "is this set or not?" | ||
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| [2025-01-22 09:55:43] <halloy9196> I'm annoyed by the do_rootfs task. switching from a single nvme ssd, to a raid0 dual nvme. can i expect any significant gain in duration reduction? | ||
| [2025-01-22 09:56:35] <halloy9196> Watching IO during this step does not look promising, but this task consists mostly of copying, to I'd expect an impact | ||
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| [2025-01-22 10:03:23] <mcfrisk> jarvis-owl: tune build machine kernel vm to cache io operations in RAM, rm_work or manual cleanup will remove the files anyway. This does not help if package manager, which works in series not parallel, calls sync()/fsync() all the time. works for all recipe compilations, not just rootfs. and scales better than building on tmpfs will can run out of space without overflowing to real disk. | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:03:29] <mcfrisk> https://www.yoctoproject.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2023/10/elce-2016-mario-goulart-mikko-rapeli-min.pdf slide 51 | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:04:13] <mcfrisk> to get rid of sync/fsync calls, eatmydata wrapper | ||
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| [2025-01-22 10:16:35] <jarvis-owl> nice, thanks for the hints! i'm going to test that :) | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:18:26] <RP> mcfrisk: if the package managers run under pseudo, we intercept the sync/fsync calls FWIW | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:24:48] <AdrianF> ThomasRoos: Thank you for raising the issue of address sanitizers. We have just decided to do the same. Would it be possible to open a bug that summarizes the status of your work and findings and to which we could also contribute? | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:27:55] <ThomasRoos> AdrianF Hi Adrian, basically do this: CXXFLAGS:append:aarch64 = " -DSANITIZER_CAN_USE_ALLOCATOR64=0" in gcc-sanitizers.inc work around it for arm64 (tested with a recipe containing an error) | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:30:11] <ThomasRoos> I plan to enable sanitizers for all ptests in meta-aws where it is possible, enable sanitzers when ptests enabled. Like here as an example: https://github.com/aws4embeddedlinux/meta-aws/blob/0bc3f805fbac8fefe80b1aa4a17e75c4f14aaaa3/recipes-sdk/aws-crt-cpp/aws-crt-cpp_0.29.9.bb#L50 | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:31:56] <ThomasRoos> I was about to send a patch, but not sure what is the correct mailing list. rburton | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:37:01] <ThomasRoos> Also tested it with arm32 - this is working without the patch. So this should be good. | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:47:17] <mcfrisk> RP: good to hear, I think I saw some call paths in the past which allowed native sync/fsync calls to pass. Could have been in normal build tasks, not do_rootfs. These are easy to spot once the vm config is applied. IO going to disk should stop as long as RAM is available. https://pcp.io or similar perf data loggers can show CPU, memory, IO and networking load when builds run. | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:48:29] <mcfrisk> (default 5 second wait for ext3/4 to do background writing is really bad on build machines) | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:49:55] <RP> mcfrisk: it would be interesting to see where the problem calls come from. I know we do sync the qemu images to disk before testimage because of the opposite problem - IO storm during qemu causing test failures | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:52:43] <mcfrisk> my builds on aarch64 machine are fast enough already so had no reason to dig deeper :) | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:53:02] <RP> mcfrisk: right, NVMe is great too | ||
| [2025-01-22 10:54:56] <mcfrisk> /proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio at 10, and /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs at 500 on my current machine. IO writes are not bugging me though they can kill the device at some point. rm_work is enabled so writes should actually fit to RAM all the time when doing mostly upstream image builds. | ||
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| [2025-01-22 11:20:00] <ThomasRoos> rburton AdrianF did send the sanitizers patch now to this openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org mailing list -> https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/210144 | ||
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| [2025-01-22 17:09:33] <JaMa> sakoman: Hi, did you notice https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/209315 ? | ||
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| [2025-01-22 17:55:56] <sakoman> JaMa: hmm . . . that somehow dropped on the floor :-( I'll pick it up! | ||
| [2025-01-22 17:58:49] <JaMa> sakoman: thanks, I've sent a version for styhead as well | ||
| [2025-01-22 17:59:13] <sakoman> JaMa: thanks for the ping! | ||
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| [2025-01-22 19:09:21] <halstead> Taking https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/ offline for a moment. | ||
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| [2025-01-22 19:14:51] <halstead> I've scaled the wiki up to handle increased load while dealing with an intense data harvesting event. It should be back online now. | ||
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| [2025-01-22 19:34:23] <mischief> halstead: is that one of those ai crawlers? :) | ||
| [2025-01-22 19:35:11] <halstead> mischief: my hunch is yes. It's built to look like a bunch of Macbooks are all browsing the wiki history from all over the world at once though. | ||
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| [2025-01-22 20:50:13] <rburton> halstead: <shakes fist> | ||
| [2025-01-22 20:50:31] <rburton> the sooner a few big orgs get together and have a crowd-sourced live IP block list the better | ||
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