Wednesday, 2025-11-19

« Tuesday, 2025-11-18 Index
*** Sundeep is back00:06
*** Sundeep is now away: Auto away00:06
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away00:11
*** Fanfwe is back00:18
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 00:22:40 2025 UTC00:22
*** goliath <goliath!~goliath@user/goliath> has quit IRC (Quit: SIGSEGV)01:01
*** halstead is back01:03
khemwhat will we do without GH :)01:07
*** halstead is now away: Auto-away01:08
*** sakman_ <sakman_!~sakman@208.111.77.233> has joined #yocto01:09
*** sakman <sakman!~sakman@208.111.77.233> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)01:12
*** rburton is back01:12
*** sakman_ is now known as sakman01:18
*** nerdboy <nerdboy!~sarnold@user/nerdboy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)01:27
*** qschulz <qschulz!~weechat@ns326003.ip-37-187-106.eu> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)01:32
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away01:33
*** walter <walter!~ch@user/walter> has joined #yocto01:35
*** qschulz <qschulz!~weechat@ns326003.ip-37-187-106.eu> has joined #yocto01:35
*** nerdboy <nerdboy!~sarnold@47-143-129-238.drr04.sntm.ca.ip.frontiernet.net> has joined #yocto01:40
*** walter <walter!~ch@user/walter> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)01:42
*** Fanfwe is back01:43
*** rburton is back01:44
*** grma <grma!~gruberm@94-24-60-237.static.kufnet.at> has quit IRC ()01:45
*** grma <grma!~gruberm@94-24-60-237.static.kufnet.at> has joined #yocto01:45
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 01:47:51 2025 UTC01:47
*** prabhakalad <prabhakalad!~prabhakar@97e54365.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)01:53
*** tgamblin is now away: Auto-away01:58
*** prabhakalad <prabhakalad!~prabhakar@97e54365.skybroadband.com> has joined #yocto01:58
*** sgw is back02:00
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away02:05
*** lukma <lukma!~lukma@095160158040.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-2-0.vectranet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)02:07
*** lukma <lukma!~lukma@095160158040.dynamic-2-waw-k-4-2-0.vectranet.pl> has joined #yocto02:09
*** grma <grma!~gruberm@94-24-60-237.static.kufnet.at> has quit IRC ()02:10
*** grma <grma!~gruberm@94-24-60-237.static.kufnet.at> has joined #yocto02:10
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:3ab3:3770:afb2:cd45> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)02:15
*** starblue <starblue!~juergen@2001:9e8:cec7:c600:9e0d:f4db:cc93:59ce> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)02:18
*** starblue <starblue!~juergen@2001:9e8:cee0:2d00:7e4f:847e:2cf4:1eff> has joined #yocto02:19
*** ablu <ablu!~m-bfyrfh@user/Ablu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)02:21
*** ablu <ablu!~m-bfyrfh@user/Ablu> has joined #yocto02:24
*** PiotrBulinski is back02:25
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:39b0:e638:f5f6:d731> has joined #yocto02:29
*** sakoman is now away: I'm not here right now02:29
*** dkl is back02:30
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away02:30
*** JPEW is now away: Auto-away02:33
*** Fanfwe is back02:42
*** dkl is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 02:44:09 2025 UTC02:44
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 02:46:35 2025 UTC02:46
*** sgw is now away: I'm not here right now02:57
*** rburton is back03:00
*** prabhakalad <prabhakalad!~prabhakar@97e54365.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)03:02
*** prabhakalad <prabhakalad!~prabhakar@97e54365.skybroadband.com> has joined #yocto03:09
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away03:24
*** ys is back03:27
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:39b0:e638:f5f6:d731> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)03:29
*** sgw is back03:33
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:4472:2682:e84d:1af8> has joined #yocto03:41
*** sakoman is now away: I'm not here right now03:41
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:4472:2682:e84d:1af8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)03:49
*** rburton is back03:52
*** sanbeam <sanbeam!~Sanjeev@207.47.199.24> has joined #yocto03:58
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:969b:3c3e:d05e:d655> has joined #yocto04:01
*** sakoman is now away: I'm not here right now04:01
*** sanbeam <sanbeam!~Sanjeev@207.47.199.24> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)04:03
*** jmiehe <jmiehe!~Thunderbi@user/jmiehe> has joined #yocto04:25
*** jmiehe <jmiehe!~Thunderbi@user/jmiehe> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)04:25
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away04:28
*** tammranil <tammranil!~tammranil@user/tammranil> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)04:29
*** tammranil <tammranil!~tammranil@user/tammranil> has joined #yocto04:30
*** tammranil is now away: Auto away04:30
*** sgw is now away: I'm not here right now04:31
*** Fanfwe is back04:37
*** Sundeep is back04:39
*** Sundeep is now away: Auto away04:39
*** justache <justache!~justache@user/justache> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)04:39
*** Vonter <Vonter!~Vonter@user/vonter> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)04:41
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 04:41:39 2025 UTC04:41
*** justache <justache!~justache@user/justache> has joined #yocto04:52
*** rburton is back04:53
*** Lihis is back05:00
*** Emantor is back05:03
*** nyadiia is now away: Auto away05:07
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away05:14
*** Fanfwe is back05:34
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 05:38:38 2025 UTC05:38
*** rburton is back05:44
*** Chaser <Chaser!~Chaser@user/chaser> has joined #yocto06:00
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away06:06
*** Fanfwe is back06:16
*** Emantor is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 06:18:54 2025 UTC06:18
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 06:20:32 2025 UTC06:20
*** Ermine is back06:21
*** Ermine is now away: Auto away06:21
*** Ermine is back06:25
*** Ermine is now away: Auto away06:25
*** Ermine is back06:29
*** Ermine is now away: Auto away06:30
*** Emantor is back06:32
*** throos is back06:35
*** Ermine is back06:43
*** throos is now away: Auto-away06:43
*** Ermine is now away: Auto away06:43
*** _whitelogger <_whitelogger!~whitelogg@catirclogs.org> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)06:44
*** Chaser <Chaser!~Chaser@user/chaser> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)06:49
*** _whitelogger <_whitelogger!~whitelogg@catirclogs.org> has joined #yocto06:50
*** rburton is back06:53
*** rob_w <rob_w!~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net> has joined #yocto06:58
*** halstead is back07:02
*** Chaser <Chaser!~Chaser@user/chaser> has joined #yocto07:02
*** Fanfwe is back07:02
*** PiotrBulinski is back07:04
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 07:06:39 2025 UTC07:06
*** halstead is now away: Auto-away07:07
*** Lihis is now away: I'm away..07:08
*** KanjiMonster is back07:11
*** Ermine is back07:13
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away07:17
*** dkl is back07:19
*** Lihis is back07:20
*** goliath <goliath!~goliath@user/goliath> has joined #yocto07:32
*** _lore_ is back07:32
*** Chaser <Chaser!~Chaser@user/chaser> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)07:33
*** leon-anavi <leon-anavi!~Leon@46.55.231.62> has joined #yocto07:34
*** rburton is back07:38
*** rfuentess <rfuentess!~rfuentess@lfbn-lyo-1-1566-5.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #yocto07:45
*** GNUmoon2 <GNUmoon2!~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)07:45
*** dkl is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 07:46:02 2025 UTC07:46
*** GNUmoon2 <GNUmoon2!~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon> has joined #yocto07:51
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away07:53
*** PiotrBulinski is back07:58
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away07:59
*** patersonc is back08:01
*** Fanfwe is back08:03
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away08:05
*** PiotrBulinski is back08:06
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 08:07:07 2025 UTC08:07
*** mckoan|away is back08:17
*** mckoan|away is now known as mckoan08:17
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away08:18
*** PiotrBulinski is back08:19
*** teknix_ <teknix_!~unknown@user/hsv> has joined #yocto08:21
*** teknix <teknix!~unknown@user/hsv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)08:22
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:969b:3c3e:d05e:d655> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)08:24
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away08:28
*** florian <florian!~florian@port-217-146-132-69.static.as20676.net> has joined #yocto08:31
*** sakoman <sakoman!~sakoman@2602:feb4:3b:2100:1f1d:7663:1ff7:c39c> has joined #yocto08:37
*** sakoman is now away: I'm not here right now08:37
*** rburton is back08:39
*** RP is back08:40
*** berton <berton!uid641616@id-641616.ilkley.irccloud.com> has joined #yocto08:44
*** florian_kc <florian_kc!~florian@port-217-146-132-69.static.as20676.net> has joined #yocto08:50
*** Chaser <Chaser!~Chaser@user/chaser> has joined #yocto08:54
*** Jones42 <Jones42!~Jones42@user/Jones42> has joined #yocto08:55
*** PiotrBulinski is back09:00
*** jclsn <jclsn!~jclsn@149.224.106.241.dynamic-pppoe.dt.ipv4.wtnet.de> has joined #yocto09:03
*** vladest is back09:03
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away09:06
*** PiotrBulinski is back09:09
Jones42is there any best practice for specifying a path in BBLAYERS? I've seen people add layers relative to ##OEROOT## or introducing a BSPDIR (with @os.abspath... )09:12
*** vladest is now away: I am currently away from the computer.09:13
*** vladest is back09:14
*** teknix_ <teknix_!~unknown@user/hsv> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)09:15
*** vladest is now away: I am currently away from the computer.09:19
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away09:20
*** rburton is now away: Auto-away09:21
*** GillesM <GillesM!~ploum@2a01cb00004562000a5a2bddfe1548ee.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #yocto09:21
*** awafaa is back09:22
*** jmd <jmd!~user@195.243.197.82> has joined #yocto09:27
*** awafaa is now away: Auto-away09:28
kanavinJones42, I assume you mean bblayers.conf.sample in templates, for that relative to ##OEROOT## is best, but moving to template-less bitbake-setup configs is better09:28
Jones42kanavin: yes, *.sample it is. thanks!09:29
Jones42I'm aware of bitbake-setup, but introducing change to a (finally) running process is, well, always complicated09:31
*** teknix <teknix!~unknown@user/hsv> has joined #yocto09:31
*** PiotrBulinski is back09:33
kanavinJones42, using templates is still fine. What is not fine is constructing a build directory with a custom shell script :)09:34
Jones42kanavin: I'm not sure what you're referring to. oe-init-build-env?09:37
kanavinJones42, I refer to a hand-written, organization-specific shell script that has no documentation, and no one who understands it (as the original developer has left years ago). The script does 'magic' to produce build/conf, particularly bblayers.conf and local.conf.09:39
kanavinand possibly it clones layers, and applies tweaks to them after the fact too09:39
kanavinand other assorted horrors09:39
kanavinI trust you are not going that way :)09:40
Jones42ah, alright. So I can count myself lucky that we skipped that part and tried to do "the right thing"[TM] with repo and oe-init-build-env :-)09:40
*** Ermine is now away: Auto away09:41
kanavinI'd still suggest you play with bitbake-setup when you find a bit of time. repo sort of works, but has its own problems.09:42
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away09:42
kanavinbitbake-setup supports templates too, so you don't need to do the 'modern' way immediately.09:42
Jones42(the biggest problem being that "repo" is just the worst name for such a tool)09:43
Jones42that's good to know, thanks. I haven't gotten around to watch your talk yet, but it's on my list :-)09:43
*** PiotrBulinski is back09:48
kanavinJones42, I think a better option is to join the upcoming virtual yocto event in early december, there's two or three bitbake-setup related sessions there, and none of them are led by me (which is a good thing!)09:51
*** vladest is back09:52
kanavinhttps://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2025-12/schedule/09:52
*** vladest is now away: I am currently away from the computer.09:57
*** rburton is back10:03
*** vladest is back10:03
*** Fanfwe is back10:05
Jones42oh, I totally forgot about that. thanks for the reminder!10:07
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 10:09:06 2025 UTC10:09
*** vladest is now away: I am currently away from the computer.10:12
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away10:20
*** aduskett <aduskett!~aduskett@2001:1c00:8101:1200:3ddc:5bb8:efa:16f1> has joined #yocto10:20
*** Jones42 <Jones42!~Jones42@user/Jones42> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)10:23
*** Jones42 <Jones42!~Jones42@user/Jones42> has joined #yocto10:25
aduskettwell this is fun: nothing provides /usr/bin/env needed by python3-core-3.13.9-r0.cortexa57 from oe-repo10:26
*** PiotrBulinski is back10:29
*** Ermine is back10:38
*** Jones42 <Jones42!~Jones42@user/Jones42> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)10:38
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away10:39
*** Jones42 <Jones42!~Jones42@user/Jones42> has joined #yocto10:40
rburtonaduskett: normally provided by busybox or coreutils so maybe you've been trying to not install one of those?10:44
*** PiotrBulinski is back10:46
LetoThe2ndaduskett: so didn't care for the environment!10:50
*** Jones42 <Jones42!~Jones42@user/Jones42> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)10:50
rburton$ rpm -qp --provides busybox-1.37.0-r0.cortexa57.rpm |grep env10:50
rburton/usr/bin/env10:50
rburtonlike that10:50
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away10:52
*** dr_kokobas <dr_kokobas!~Thunderbi@78-0-244-149.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has joined #yocto10:52
aduskettrburton, I have busybox installed10:53
rburtonwhat package manager was being used?  did you customise busybox to not install that? do you even have /usr/bin/env present in your system?10:53
*** ww-wojtek is back10:54
adusketthuh10:54
adusketta busybox rpm doesn't exist. What the heck10:54
aduskettNor does a coreutils10:54
aduskettrburton, I'm updating dnf from 4 to 5 :)10:54
rburtonyeah you're on your own there ;)10:55
aduskettI have a meta-simple image that uses qemuarm6410:55
aduskettI'm surprised it doesn't provide busybox or coreutils by default10:55
aduskettqemux64 does10:55
rburtonbusybox/coreutils is often implicitly pulled into images so you might need to add it somewhere, if you're not reusing packagegroup-core-base or whatever its called10:56
aduskettI do inherit core-image10:58
aduskettodd though, I can of course add busybox to IMAGE_INSTALL11:00
*** PiotrBulinski is back11:00
adusketteither way, that should fix the problem, as I am just focused on dnf5 :D11:00
aduskettok great! dnf5 seems to work!11:04
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away11:06
*** Fanfwe is back11:06
*** dr_kokobas is now away: I am currently away from the computer.11:06
*** druppy <druppy!~Thunderbi@user/druppy> has joined #yocto11:07
*** rfuentess <rfuentess!~rfuentess@lfbn-lyo-1-1566-5.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)11:08
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 11:10:06 2025 UTC11:10
*** druppy is now away: I am currently away from the computer.11:10
rburton🎉11:11
*** PiotrBulinski is back11:14
*** walter <walter!~ch@user/walter> has joined #yocto11:18
*** druppy <druppy!~Thunderbi@user/druppy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)11:22
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away11:24
*** jerrycash3 <jerrycash3!~jerrycash@user/jerrycash> has joined #yocto11:29
*** jerrycash2 <jerrycash2!~jerrycash@user/jerrycash> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)11:32
*** ys is now away: Auto away11:46
*** PiotrBulinski is back11:47
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away11:52
*** PiotrBulinski is back11:52
*** rfuentess <rfuentess!~rfuentess@lfbn-lyo-1-1566-5.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #yocto11:55
*** Fanfwe is back12:07
*** flynn378 is back12:09
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away12:10
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 12:11:06 2025 UTC12:11
*** Jones42 <Jones42!~Jones42@user/Jones42> has joined #yocto12:20
*** Kubu_work <Kubu_work!~kubu@arennes-358-1-227-139.w2-13.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #yocto12:23
*** dr_kokobas is back12:24
*** vladest is back12:30
*** Saur is now away: ♫ Kraftwerk - Europe Endless ♫12:37
*** PiotrBulinski is back12:40
*** vladest is now away: I am currently away from the computer.12:42
*** Saur is now away: ♫ Mike Oldfield - The Hero ♫12:45
*** PiotrBulinski is now away: Auto-away12:47
*** sanbeam <sanbeam!~Sanjeev@207.47.199.24> has joined #yocto12:47
*** sanbeam <sanbeam!~Sanjeev@207.47.199.24> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)12:49
*** sanbeam <sanbeam!~Sanjeev@207.47.199.24> has joined #yocto12:49
kanavinRP: the hopefully final set of patches sent \0/12:49
*** Saur is now away: ♫ Def Leppard - Love and Affection ♫12:50
*** vladest is back12:52
*** sanbeam <sanbeam!~Sanjeev@207.47.199.24> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)12:54
*** Saur is now away: ♫ Gary Moore - Still in Love with You ♫12:54
*** vladest is now away: I am currently away from the computer.12:57
*** Saur is now away: ♫ Beethoven - Första satsen ur Symfoni nr 5 ♫13:00
*** Saur is now away: ♫ Ramin Djawadi - A Bird Without Feathers ♫13:02
*** Lihis is now away: I'm away..13:03
*** Fanfwe is back13:07
ww-wojtekis there a way to put a particular file in multiple packages? or do I need to do stuff like RDEPENDS:${PN}-1 += "${PN}-2"?13:08
rburtonthe latter13:08
*** Fanfwe is now away: Auto away at Wed Nov 19 13:11:02 2025 UTC13:11
*** justache <justache!~justache@user/justache> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)13:12
*** ys is back13:16
ww-wojtekrburton: haha thanks13:18
*** flynn378 is now away: Auto-away13:20
*** GillesM <GillesM!~ploum@2a01cb00004562000a5a2bddfe1548ee.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)13:21
*** justache <justache!~justache@user/justache> has joined #yocto13:21
*** flynn378 is back13:22
*** dr_kokobas is now away: I am currently away from the computer.13:25
*** tgamblin is back13:29
*** ndec is back13:30
RPkanavin: awesome, thanks!13:31
*** rob_w <rob_w!~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)13:31
*** umbramalison <umbramalison!~umbramali@188.74.90.42> has joined #yocto13:34
*** flynn378 is now away: Auto-away13:35
umbramalisoncould someone give me a hint for where I could see the configure commands for a particular package?13:39
umbramalisonpotentially just finding the built source code would have cmake cache file. or a log file.13:40
rburtontmp/work/*/recipe/version/ contains the build tree - for cmake, build/ is the build tree and temp/log.do_configure is the output of cmake13:41
rburtonif its cmake then the recipe will be setting EXTRA_OECMAKE and inheriting cmake, cmake.bbclass adds more options and calls cmake13:42
umbramalisonrburton thanks. it's wpewebkit I'm investigating. which is cmake. I think I found the folder you described because there are similar files log.do_* but there is no configure. maybe because it was a partial build....13:47
rburtonif it came from sstate then it wouldn't have ran configure13:47
rburtonyou can force it, bitbake wpewebkit -C configure13:47
*** vladest is back13:47
umbramalisongot the file. thank you13:49
« Tuesday, 2025-11-18 Index

Generated by irclog2html.py 4.0.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!