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| walter | jonmason: Nice, thanks for sharing! I'll look into it soon. | 02:05 |
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| RP | I'm going to try and build 5.3 .. | 08:09 |
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| KanjiMonster | dunno who's responsible for the site, but it would be nice if the yocto summit page (https://www.yoctoproject.org/event/virtual-summit-2025-12/) would have a link to the schedule (https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2025-12/schedule/), which I only found via instagram (?!) | 08:30 |
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| mckoan | KanjiMonster: halstead ^^^ | 08:36 |
| halstead | mckoan: I can help get this request to the right people on the team. | 08:37 |
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| KanjiMonster | halstead: also the pretalx page for the summit (https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2025-12/) has "TBD" for the Registration link I just noticed | 08:41 |
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| aduskett | I wish there was a variable to add help text for a packageconfig option and for bitbake to print that help text out. | 08:49 |
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| aduskett | something like PACKAGECONFIG[foo] = "1,2,3,4,5,6,"Build the foo binary for x functionality" | 08:51 |
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| kanavin | aduskett, I guess a comment in the recipe above the option would kind of help there. | 09:45 |
| aduskett | oh for sure | 09:45 |
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| aduskett | So I am trying to enable the python3 option for dnf5 but I am getting "Interpreter: Cannot run the interpreter "/usr/sbin/python3"" | 10:07 |
| aduskett | This is after I added cmake-qemu to inherit | 10:08 |
| aduskett | And `PACKAGECONFIG[python3] = "-DWITH_PYTHON3=ON,-DWITH_PYTHON3=OFF,qemu-native python3"` | 10:08 |
| aduskett | Is there some black voodoo magic I am missing? (I am sure there is obviously) | 10:08 |
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| kanavin | why sbin? | 10:19 |
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| aduskett | kanavin, That's just what cmake pukes out at me lol | 10:29 |
| aduskett | I'm not defining any custom paths | 10:30 |
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| paulbarker | aduskett: Do other distros using dnf5 have sbin & bin merged? | 10:42 |
| paulbarker | "/usr/sbin/python3" definitely looks wrong, but it may work on distros with merged sbin & bin | 10:43 |
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| aduskett | paulbarker, ahhhh | 10:46 |
| aduskett | I didn't even think about that! | 10:46 |
| aduskett | Fedora does indeed have sbin and bin merged! | 10:46 |
| paulbarker | We probably need to patch it to use /usr/bin/python3 for Yocto, maybe upstream will accept that as well | 10:46 |
| aduskett | yeah good idea | 10:47 |
| aduskett | I have a few patches I need to submit upstream for the project anyways | 10:47 |
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| aduskett | well, if I inherit python3targetconfig I get ` Interpreter: Cannot run the interpreter "build/tmp/work/cortexa57-simpleimage-linux-musl/dnf/5.3.0.0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin/python3-native/python3"` | 11:13 |
| aduskett | which is strange, because shouldn't this use the native arm64 python and not the x64 python? | 11:13 |
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| jclsn | Can pypi.bbclass build every package from pypi.org? | 11:15 |
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| jclsn | For me it can't find many packages. I usualy go for python3-packagename | 11:15 |
| jclsn | This is not really clear for me https://docs.yoctoproject.org/langdale/ref-manual/classes.html#pypi-bbclass | 11:16 |
| jclsn | Seems like these should be stripped anyway https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/545e43a7a45be02fda8fc3af69faa20e889f58c4/meta/classes-recipe/pypi.bbclass#L9 | 11:19 |
| rburton | jclsn: the fun is that there's no standardisation for naming, so you often need to set the pypi name. I have patches to make the class do what the standards say by default, but notably setuptools does not do that so the defaults _will_ be broken for some set of packages | 11:22 |
| jclsn | rburton: But what is the approach? I want to build this application https://github.com/OHF-Voice/linux-voice-assistant/blob/main/pyproject.toml | 11:23 |
| jclsn | Can setuptools3 just read the pyproject.toml? Do I need to add python3-packagename as RDEPENDS? | 11:24 |
| rburton | jclsn: inherit pypi and set PYPI_PACKAGE if the default isn't right, then also inherit the right builder class (in that case, python_setuptools_build_meta) | 11:26 |
| rburton | eg the relevant bits of python3-booleanpy are just inherit pypi setuptools3 and PYPI_PACKAGE = "boolean_py" | 11:27 |
| jclsn | There is not pypi package for this yet | 11:29 |
| jclsn | But for the dependencies | 11:30 |
| rburton | oh right you were talking about pypi | 11:30 |
| rburton | just fetch like usual and inherit python_setuptools_build_meta | 11:31 |
| jclsn | Like this? https://0x0.st/KWkq.1.bb | 11:32 |
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| jclsn | Says nothing provides the packages | 11:33 |
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| rburton | what packages? | 11:36 |
| paulbarker | jclsn: You'll need to make sure recipes exist for each of the dependencies | 11:36 |
| paulbarker | For Python, we package each library separately | 11:36 |
| rburton | oh the rdepends? yes, check meta-python if you've not got that already, but you'll need to write more recipes | 11:36 |
| jclsn | Ah okay, write recipes for all dependencies I guess | 11:37 |
| jclsn | I would have assumed pypi.bbclass could pull a list from pypi.org and build them. Guess it is only though to be used for one package in one recipe, isn't it | 11:37 |
| rburton | right | 11:37 |
| jclsn | aye | 11:38 |
| rburton | we don't vendor all the dependencies in every build because that would mean core packages would be duplicated hundreds of times | 11:38 |
| rburton | and remember to push the new recipes to meta-python :) | 11:38 |
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| aduskett | So now I have to figure out why cmake-qemu is pointing towards python3-native and not a cross-compiled python and how to deal with this: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/policy/CMP0190.html | 11:42 |
| rburton | python+cross+cmake is a "challenge" so can you just not? :) | 11:43 |
| rburton | hm that policy change will need a sit down and a coffee i think | 11:44 |
| aduskett | rburton, I mean, yeah, I can disable the python bindings outright | 11:45 |
| aduskett | But I dun wanna | 11:45 |
| aduskett | lol | 11:45 |
| jclsn | Okay, can do. Via mail patches I guess. I did that once for btop, some time ago ^^ | 11:45 |
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| jclsn | I guess also in order of dependency or would one huge patch be fine? | 11:46 |
| aduskett | I think for now, I am about ready to submit a patch to move to dnf5 | 11:46 |
| aduskett | and I'll just keep the bindings off | 11:46 |
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| jclsn | rburton: Are there any conventions to naming recipe folders? Some are python- and others python3- in meta-python and I don't assume python2 is still used | 11:53 |
| rburton | jclsn: mostly historical from when there were python-foo and python3-foo recipes that shared files. just use python3- | 11:54 |
| jclsn | Alright | 11:58 |
| jclsn | meta-python doesn't seem to have a github mirror | 11:58 |
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| rburton | its part of meta-openembedded, but the official way to send patches is the list anyway | 12:01 |
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| jclsn | But there are very little packages in scarthgap, some more in master, but I still can't find the right location for the package | 12:06 |
| jclsn | I just build python3-soundcard successfully | 12:06 |
| jclsn | https://pypi.org/project/SoundCard/ | 12:06 |
| jclsn | Where should I put the recipe now? | 12:07 |
| jclsn | Let me read this https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/contributor-guide/submit-changes.html | 12:08 |
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| jclsn | Okay, that is straightforward, but I am still confused about where to put the patch. I would assume that patches are only sent to master to then land in the next release. In can only count ~20-30 python packages in meta-openembedded. Those can't be all | 12:14 |
| jclsn | khem: Can you enlighten me? | 12:15 |
| RP | jclsn: $ ls ./meta-python/recipes-devtools/python/python3*.bb | wc says 615 ? | 12:17 |
| jclsn | RP: Oh right, they are all in python/ | 12:19 |
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| jclsn | A few are one dir up though. Any reasons for this? | 12:20 |
| jclsn | and why all in recipes-devtools?? | 12:22 |
| jclsn | zere must be an orda | 12:23 |
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| RP | jclsn: interpreted languages were traditionally in devtools | 12:27 |
| jclsn | RP: I see. At least that makes the choice of placement easy | 12:28 |
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| jclsn | Is this strictly forbidden? File '/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pyopen_wakeword/lib/libtensorflowlite_c.so' from python3-pyopen-wakeword was already stripped, this will prevent future debugging! | 13:30 |
| jclsn | I could create a recipe for as well of course https://github.com/tphakala/tflite_c | 13:31 |
| jclsn | Would have to anyweay from ARMv6... | 13:33 |
| jclsn | *for | 13:33 |
| rburton | you can INSANE_SKIP that away but a proper tflite recipe would be best, but quite painful | 13:35 |
| jclsn | There is no way around it, because I want to use this on a pizero | 13:36 |
| jclsn | The build seems straightforwards | 13:36 |
| rburton | https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-tensorflow fwiw | 13:37 |
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| rburton | honestly, just insane_skip that warning away for now | 13:37 |
| jclsn | Was about it | 13:38 |
| jclsn | was about to | 13:38 |
| jclsn | Yeah but the lib won't work with my device, so what's the point? | 13:38 |
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| rburton | oh did it download a v7 binary? | 13:39 |
| jclsn | rburton: There isn't one https://github.com/rhasspy/pyopen-wakeword/tree/main/lib | 13:40 |
| rburton | oh so worse, it's installing the wrong files for you | 13:41 |
| jclsn | Yes, I am only doing this only Yocto because building this voice assistant on the PiZero is impossible | 13:41 |
| jclsn | Still, many people have these devices laying around and would be nice to have an image | 13:42 |
| jclsn | tensorflow-lite is already there fortunately | 13:43 |
| jclsn | Need to inject it into the recipe | 13:43 |
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| jclsn | It's hardcoded into the openwakeword.py omg | 13:46 |
| jclsn | Oh I can point it to the library | 13:47 |
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| jclsn | I would have to patch the extracted tarball. Should I do this or build from git? | 13:59 |
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| rburton | tensorflow is a pita to build so easiest to drop binaries in the right place if you can | 14:02 |
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| jclsn | rburton: I don't mean tensorflow, but the pymicro-wakeword package. It ships the .so in lib/ and then adds those here I guess https://github.com/OHF-Voice/pymicro-wakeword/blob/e78d73cc8c48111a0ef3f5ce63bffbde7a78660b/pyproject.toml#L49 | 14:08 |
| jclsn | My approach would be to remove that line and then point the application to the tflite library in the system https://github.com/OHF-Voice/pymicro-wakeword/blob/e78d73cc8c48111a0ef3f5ce63bffbde7a78660b/pymicro_wakeword/microwakeword.py#L46 | 14:09 |
| jclsn | Not sure where bitbake is complaining exactly | 14:10 |
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| jclsn | How to properly format a patch for a tarball? I tried | 14:34 |
| jclsn | diff -Naur pyproject.toml pyproject.toml.new > "0001-Dont-use-prebuilt-tflite-library.patch" | 14:34 |
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| rburton | patches are applied with -p1 so set pnum=0 in the SRC_URI | 14:40 |
| jclsn | Should have probably use devtool for this or whatever | 14:42 |
| jclsn | But it's also good to do it manually once I guess | 14:42 |
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| rburton | devtool would make it easier yeah | 14:43 |
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| jclsn | rburton: tensorflow-lite was skipped: incompatible with host arm-poky-linux-gnueabi (not in COMPATIBLE_HOST) | 15:06 |
| jclsn | :( | 15:06 |
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| rburton | you can likely just remove that limitation in the recipe, verify it works, and send a patch | 15:07 |
| jclsn | Okay, will try | 15:07 |
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| jclsn | rburton: Where do I do that? Adding it in the .bb file did not do anything | 15:12 |
| rburton | the recipe will have a COMPATIBLE_HOST that limits where it can work | 15:12 |
| rburton | it won't list arm | 15:12 |
| jclsn | COMPATIBLE_HOST += "arm" ? | 15:14 |
| rburton | for testing, just comment it out. its a regex match. | 15:15 |
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| jclsn | I added it | 15:15 |
| jclsn | There no such line in the original recipe | 15:15 |
| rburton | https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-tensorflow/tree/recipes-framework/tensorflow/tensorflow-lite_2.19.0.bb?h=master#n169 | 15:15 |
| jclsn | Oh at the bottom | 15:16 |
| jclsn | Sorry | 15:16 |
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| jclsn | rburton: Nope | 15:36 |
| jclsn | external/XNNPACK/src/qd8-f16-qc8w-igemm/gen/qd8-f16-qc8w-igemm-4x8c4-minmax-asm-aarch32-neondotfp16arith-cortex-a55.S:144: Error: selected processor does not support `vsdot.s8 q8,q2,d0[0]' in ARM mode | 15:36 |
| rburton | have fun :) | 15:36 |
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| jclsn | It seems to me that tensorflow does not support arm | 15:37 |
| jclsn | Patching it will be a nightmare | 15:37 |
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| rburton | or it does, but you need to pass specific options | 15:37 |
| jclsn | Let me check the recipe maintainer | 15:38 |
| jclsn | julien stephan | 15:38 |
| rburton | well, the recipe says "does not support arm" | 15:38 |
| rburton | so check upstream | 15:38 |
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| rburton | https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/9b0e9e9f97c5c0ed4cea1276a3d00cfa904baaee/tensorflow/lite/g3doc/guide/build_arm.md | 15:43 |
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| rburton | it supports the rpi3, but you're targeting a pizero which doesn't have the v8 cores, which will impact any hand-written assembler | 15:46 |
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| jclsn | Let me check for inline assembly | 15:52 |
| jclsn | Yeah there is some | 15:53 |
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| jclsn | At this point I don't know anymore if this is worth the trouble. A Pi Zero 2W costs just 2€ more... | 15:56 |
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| jclsn | I could still upstream python3-mpv and python3-soundcard | 15:58 |
| jclsn | The rest is all specific to this voice assistant | 15:59 |
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| mcfrisk | rm_work, sigh. forgot to wipe tmp after disabling it and got odd images. For example changed QB variables which resulted in do_image_cpio running for initramfs but do_rootfs not and rootfs was wiped and thus only an ampty /init file got in. | 16:08 |
| mcfrisk | have limited disk space so kind of need rm_work but could maybe disable the rootfs deletion since that seems to be the only thing causing issues to me | 16:09 |
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| mcfrisk | adding dependency from do_image type tasks to do_rootfs could solve this too but should only be there if rm_work is enabled to retrigger do_rootfs | 16:10 |
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| rburton | rm_work already does some horrible things so maybe injecting more dependencies isn't a terrible idea | 16:17 |
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| jclsn | rburton: Should I still upstream python3-soundcard and python3-mpv? To master I assume? | 16:37 |
| jclsn | The rest is not really usable without tensorflow | 16:38 |
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| rburton | please do | 16:45 |
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