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| paulbarker | Morning | 08:56 |
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| aduskett | ugh | 09:15 |
| aduskett | This customer | 09:16 |
| aduskett | They "require" xfce4 which worked fine in kirkstone. I am updating them to scarthgap and almost everything is complete except xfce4 | 09:16 |
| aduskett | GModule-2.0.gir:13.3-13.21: error: unknown child element `doc:format' in `repository' | 09:16 |
| aduskett | | 13 | <doc:format name="gi-docgen"/> | 09:16 |
| aduskett | I don't even know where to begin for this. It's a failure with the meta-openembedded/meta-xfce/recipes-xfce/libxfce4util/libxfce4util_4.19.2.bb backage | 09:17 |
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| rburton | vvn: i mean the recipe is some-toolchain-native.bb and just inherits native. | 09:48 |
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| aduskett | I can manually disable introspection for libxfce4util and it compiles | 09:50 |
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| qschulz | do we store the time it takes for a task to complete somewhere? | 11:27 |
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| rburton | qschulz: buildstats | 11:52 |
| rburton | including tools! | 11:52 |
| rburton | buildstats-summary and buildstats-diff | 11:52 |
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| qschulz | rburton: thanks, polishing my cover letter for mesa-tools-native :) | 11:54 |
| qschulz | trying to provide some numbers to have some people interested in it (for now it seems "obvious" we gaining time from the change, but I don't know how much :) ) | 11:55 |
| rburton | buildstats-diff is what you want then, do two builds from clean and it will tell you the time differences | 11:55 |
| rburton | (remember to switch it from cpu time to wall time) | 11:55 |
| qschulz | rburton: only need the difference from dependencies, so a cleansstate of diff in pn-buildlist should be enough no? | 11:56 |
| rburton | sure | 11:56 |
| qschulz | (pn-buildlist from bitbake -g mesa before and after the series) | 11:56 |
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| qschulz | rburton: what kind of machine would make sense to test this against? | 12:11 |
| qschulz | the ones I'm interested in are Rockchip ones, but they aren't part of OE-Core... | 12:12 |
| qschulz | I assume some qemux86*? | 12:12 |
| rburton | yeah qemux86-64 please | 12:12 |
| rburton | that has similar mesa stack to real x86 hardware so is comparable | 12:12 |
| qschulz | it'll be interesting to see if *anything* actually requires mesa-native after the migration to mesa-tools-native | 12:13 |
| rburton | qemu (for now) | 12:13 |
| qschulz | and if so, if we can either migrate them to mesa-tools-native | 12:13 |
| qschulz | or if we can reduce the PACKAGECONFIG for mesa-native | 12:14 |
| rburton | at the moment mesa-native is used by qemu-system-native so it has to support the common x86 drivers. which is terrible, and why i want to pivot it to use glvnd ideally. | 12:14 |
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| vvn | rburton: ha ok I see for the native recipe. What about cmake-native already provided by my sdk, should I set PROVIDES += "cmake-native" or should I prevent my app recipe from pulling it (seems more appropriate)? | 12:33 |
| rburton | vvn: i'd just use what you _need_ from the external binary thing, we already have a cmake-native | 12:34 |
| vvn | rburton: true, you would remove cmake from the sdk installed files then? | 12:35 |
| rburton | at this point i'd be reconsidering using a binary sdk ;) | 12:35 |
| rburton | but yeah probably | 12:35 |
| vvn | yes that's a binary SDK. Does that make a difference for my recipes? | 12:36 |
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| vvn | you still package the binary sdk as a native package right? | 12:40 |
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| qschulz | rburton: ahah, got tricked by the core/yocto/sstate-mirror-cdn fragment | 12:48 |
| qschulz | "why do I gain only a few seconds" | 12:49 |
| qschulz | duh | 12:49 |
| rburton | vvn: the binary toolchain in meta-arm is just gcc and wrapped up in a native package, yes | 12:49 |
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| mcfrisk | building old branches on newer distros, I guess one option is to downgrade gcc and g++. Any major major issues if I just set BUILD_CC to gcc-12 and expose gcc-12 in HOSTTOOLS? | 13:53 |
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| rburton | mcfrisk: should work | 14:01 |
| rburton | mcfrisk: never did get around to writing a test to verify that _everything_ respects BUILD_CC by playing with hosttools but i did a manual test some time ago and it worked fine. | 14:02 |
| rburton | (of course there might be breakage from more than gcc) | 14:02 |
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| vvn | rburton: meson fails with a sanitycheck because -fcanon-prefix-map is unrecognized in my binary toolchain. What's the proper way to fix this, should I clear DEBUG_PREFIX_MAP or set CFLAGS manually in the recipe? | 14:04 |
| mcfrisk | yea, gcc is mostly fine, g++ is the pita with 15 on host. but have 14, 13 and 12 on the host. will try this at least on the worst recipes.. | 14:05 |
| vvn | DEBUG_PREFIX_MAP:remove = "-fcanon-prefix-map" like in meta-arm's external-system_0.1.0.bb recipe has no impact | 14:05 |
| rburton | oh ffs https://mas.to/@zekjur/116022397626943871 | 14:05 |
| rburton | mcfrisk: that's basically what i did when i had that problem so yeah it should mostly work | 14:05 |
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| mcfrisk | rburton: thanks, will do this now for kirkstone on gcc 15 host | 14:12 |
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| vvn | damn, I cleared DEBUG_PREFIX_MAP completely (seems dirty) but meson tries to run sanitycheckc_cross.exe even though the log says Is cross compiler: True. | 14:22 |
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| rburton | yes, you need to turn off the exe_wrapper if you don't want it to do that | 14:42 |
| rburton | of course if the target isn't your usual target (eg firmware on a separate core) then don't use the meson class at all, it's doing a lot of work you explicitly don't want | 14:43 |
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| vvn | yeah I just figured I must remove qemu-usermode from MACHINE_FEATURES | 14:44 |
| vvn | rburton: ho really? I thought setting CC and friends from the recipe for a (almost) transparent integration with meson.bbclass was the way to go | 14:45 |
| rburton | well i still don't really know if this is "i have a baremetal toolchain for a different CPU core" or "for reasons i want to use a different compiler for a binary that will run with the rest of the system" | 14:46 |
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| rburton | if the latter then why wouldn't meson running the binary work | 14:47 |
| rburton | if the former then you need to shoehorn out of the way all the defaults because they're busy setting up the build for a different target | 14:48 |
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| vvn | rburton: ha, so my scenario is that we have this application stack which works fine with our machines/distros. But we do have this hardware variant to support which uses an old uclibc binary toolchain. Compiling a complete image seems optimistic, so for now I expected to cross-compile the app and its deps and run it on the current system | 14:53 |
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| vvn | that's why I went the multiconfig way for now with a bunch of INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS:pn-myapp = "1", DEPENDS:pn-myapp = "some-gcc-native", CC:pn-myapp = "some-gcc", etc. | 14:55 |
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| rburton | you could do all that in a bbappend instead of having to use overrides | 15:00 |
| vvn | true | 15:00 |
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| vvn | you're right, I'll set some OVERRIDE and use it in a local bbappend | 15:05 |
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| qschulz | rburton: got nice numbers, now need to verify I still have GPU support on my machines.... almooooooost there | 15:08 |
| qschulz | 17.5min saved for my Rockchip machines though | 15:08 |
| rburton | nice! | 15:08 |
| qschulz | small 40s increase to pay for qemu-system-native though | 15:09 |
| rburton | is that understood? | 15:09 |
| qschulz | but I think that's *fine* | 15:09 |
| qschulz | wdym? | 15:09 |
| qschulz | why it's increased? | 15:09 |
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| rburton | yeah | 15:14 |
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| qschulz | yes, because mesa-native now requires mesa-tools-native when building with libclc PACKAGECONFIG | 15:16 |
| qschulz | I guess I could have libclc PACKAGECONFIG for mesa-native not use mesa-tools-native... But I'm wondering if that'll work and is worth the "complexity" | 15:17 |
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| rburton | why does that make qemu take longer to build? | 15:22 |
| rburton | or do you mean "time up to, including dependencies" | 15:23 |
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| qschulz | yes, it takes 40 more seconds for mesa-native to build | 15:23 |
| qschulz | which is a dependency of qemu-system-native | 15:23 |
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| qschulz | I took that as the only mesa-native dependent recipe but I don't know if that's true, jumped to the conclusion | 15:25 |
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| rburton | gotcha | 15:28 |
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| RP | kanavin: FWIW that test build failed: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/29/builds/3170 | 15:57 |
| RP | kanavin: I need to think about why that might be | 15:57 |
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| shoragan | rburton, i just sent a fix for optee-examples to the meta-arm list. isn't that recipe build by the CI? | 18:03 |
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| rburton | shoragan: urgh maybe not, noted | 18:05 |
| shoragan | i had a quick look through the logs (perhaps the wrong ones), and optee-client sees to be missing as well. | 18:06 |
| rburton | will poke at our CI matrix next week, thanks | 18:06 |
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| tlwoerner | rburton: https://github.com/josh-project/josh | 18:47 |
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