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khemtgamblin: I might be able to attend Embedded Recipes this year01:35
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abluI am trying to build glibc with usdt probes. That requires the sys/sdt*.h files. This results in a bootstrapping problem as "sdt-config.h" is generated at build time. So I at least need to run configure on systemtap sources. This of course checks for a working compile (which also attempts to link libc, causing a chicken-egg problem). Are there any examples how to bootstrap something like this? I do not _really_ need to do any compilation on systemtap. Just...07:52
ablu... configuring the header + installing that would be fine. But there also seems to be no way to skip the compiler checks without invasive patching.07:52
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aduskettOh joy. Arguing if the extra-partition wic plugin should require files or directories. Why? Who cares? lol09:28
aduskettAh, Pierre-Loup was the one who originally made the extra-partition plugin09:28
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aduskettI need to get back to my dnf5 patch series as well. I was hoping that the dnf guys would fix the requirement of sequoia but I guess not09:33
aduskettbleh09:33
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throosAnyone knows about maven building a java application from source WITHOUT internet access in do_compile? Any pointers, examples? (compiling works with a bin jdk) But enabling this will break yocto compatible requirements...10:01
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RPLooks like we may have some hanging oe-selftest runs. The glibc nfs issue also seems to still sometimes be hanging10:29
RPthroos: I don't, sorry10:29
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agodardRP: I think I've got one, and I don't think it's related to the glibc NFS issue10:40
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agodardRP: oh well, nevermind, it moved forward after 1h30, so it's not hanging10:43
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mcfriskthroos: there were various tricks with maven to create a local cache and then to only use that in subsequent builds. check maven docs for offline builds and replicate that with yocto. don't remember the details anymore..10:46
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throos@mcfrisk thanks a lot - will need to dig into this then.10:49
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RPagodard: which test was it?10:58
RPit is possible the huge sstate invalidation slowed things down10:58
agodardRP: binutils.BinutilsCrossSelfTest.test_binutils, which took 4924.30s10:58
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RPagodard: that doesn't make any sense :(11:00
RPthere is something wrong somewhere :/11:00
agodardRP: this was a build I started yesterday, so it doesn't contain the pseudo update11:00
agodardRP: also, the worker seems to have a constant load average of 100, and no other builds is running on this one (ubuntu2404-vk-1)11:01
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RPInterestingly, https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/66/builds/3027 took about the right amount of time (rpurdie/glibc-test4 branch)11:01
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RPthat narrows our window of the problematic slowdown in the glibc tests to the last two weeks11:01
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RPI did revert the glibc revert so perhaps it is that and I have happened to fix it11:02
RPI think I'm going to assume I did manage to fix it holistically and that just leaves the 'hanging' selftests which might be a rebuild issue11:04
aduskettI swear I must be the weirdest embedded systems architect on earth. How are there no dracut examples out there? lol11:06
agodardRP: My build has oecore pointing to 3c3b2bc8b39, if you want to compare11:06
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RPagodard: you don't have the revert of the revert, or some of the other key fixes. I think you need to rebase on the pieces I pushed into master, then we'll have better data11:20
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RPI'm pretty sure that revert of the revert is the other glibc test speed issue11:26
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rburtonaduskett: koen was doing dracut stuff, https://pretalx.com/ypdd-amsterdam-2025/talk/AL3P9E/. should be able to find the recording on youtube11:59
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aduskettrburton, very nice! Thank you!11:59
aduskettrburton, I also found https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/oe-core/list/?series=33846 which hasn't been responded to very much lol12:00
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rburtonRP: so the unfs thing was basically because join(foo(), bar()) and the compiler was re-ordering foo and bar, but bar was expecting foo to have been ran first?12:38
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paulbarkerrburton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence_point#Up_to_C++03 is a good read: The function call f(a,b,c) is not a use of the comma operator; the order of evaluation for a, b, and c is unspecified.12:49
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rburtonyeah12:50
rburtonchecking i was reading the message right12:50
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rburtonRP: filed a unfs3 bug. shall i sling the patch at it in your name?12:59
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rburtonRP: don't want to be that guy but you failed to SOB the unfs patch13:05
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RPrburton: feel free to add it and sling it over13:21
RPrburton: that is what it seems the issue was, yes13:21
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RPrburton: I've mixed feelings on SOB in patches like that as it doesn't often actually make sense within the meaning of what SOB means13:23
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aduskettoh neat13:40
aduskettI got dracut working with an initramfs and systemd13:40
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tgamblinrburton: sounds like patchtest isn't working right again then?14:16
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RPrburton: any thoughts on why oe-selftest would be sitting for ages running rpmdeps on linux-libc-headers?15:38
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fraythat seems strange, the linux-libc-headers shouldn't have any excutables in it.. the rpmdeps SHOULD only be doing dep things on executables if I remember right15:42
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RPrburton: 16 threads all stuck in __lll_lock_wait() and the main rpmfcClassify() -> GOMP_parallel() -> somewhere15:44
RPfray: stuck in pseudo mutex :/15:45
RP#0  0x00007fc0ce7ea84f in __lll_lock_wait () from /srv/pokybuild/yocto-worker/oe-selftest-debian/build/build-st-3025986/tmp/sysroots-uninative/x86_64-linux/lib/libc.so.615:45
RP#1  0x00007fc0ce7f07f1 in pthread_mutex_lock () from /srv/pokybuild/yocto-worker/oe-selftest-debian/build/build-st-3025986/tmp/sysroots-uninative/x86_64-linux/lib/libc.so.615:45
RP#2  0x00007fc0ceab0851 in open () from /srv/pokybuild/yocto-worker/oe-selftest-debian/build/build-st-3025986/tmp/sysroots-components/x86_64/pseudo-native/usr/lib/pseudo/lib64/libpseudo.so15:45
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frayopen will mutex the sqlite access stuff, is the issue too many files in the directory being hit at the same time so we're hitting sqlite contention in the server?15:46
RPfray: maybe15:47
RPfray: any way I could confirm/deny that?15:48
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frayya looking at open the startup sequence (temporarily) blocks signals and uses pseuo_getlock to obtain a lock15:48
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fraycalls the real open, and then drops the lock15:48
frayThere is an interesting comment here:15:49
fray#if 015:49
fray * stuff for strerror...15:49
fray */15:49
fray        pseudo_debug(PDBGF_WRAPPER, "wrapper completed: open returns %d (errno: %s)\n", rc, strerror(save_errno));15:49
fray#endif15:49
fray        pseudo_debug(PDBGF_WRAPPER, "wrapper completed: open returns %d (errno: %d)\n", rc, save_errno);15:49
fraybut I suspect it's unrelated15:49
frayd'oh the comment didn't paste..15:49
fray"* This can cause hangs on some recentish systems which use locale"15:49
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frayopen calls openat BTW, but I expect that isn't it15:50
frayhttps://git.yoctoproject.org/pseudo/tree/pseudo_wrappers.c#n21515:52
fraythat's the lock function, which is using pthread_mutex_lock15:52
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RPright, all the threads are in open() calls15:53
frayit's been so long since I did anything in that code though, I don't really remember how the locking works other then the code block itself15:53
frayya, that is original code from 201015:54
RPfray: could the efault change by bypassing a lock release?15:55
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fraylet me look.. the only place to know would be in the generated wrappers15:55
RPor the enosys?15:55
frayefault would only happen on the statx... but it definitely 'exits early', but I need to see if it's before locks are cleared15:56
paulbarkerQuick reminder: We'll be having a call to discuss AB-INT bugs and how we can squash them in 5 min via zoom: https://zoom.us/j/91948604233. Anyone who is available to join will be most appreciated!15:57
frayRP you got it... the efault will not drop the lock, it just returns15:57
rburtonRP fray: rpmdeps scans every file iirc15:57
frayit also doesn't clear the sigprocmask15:57
rburtonand yeah i want to rip it out entirely still15:57
RPrburton: goes without saying ;-)15:57
rburtonlol15:58
frayit has to scan for the 'file color'15:58
fraybut ya, I hate it too.. but it's part of the regular RPM stuff15:58
fray(file color is similar to running 'file' on each binary)15:58
rburtonwe run it for non-rpm too and it does very little15:58
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RPfray: can I assume you'll work out a fix for the efault thing? that is high priority15:58
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rburtonRP: i want to join the abint call but will be a little late, on another call right now15:58
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frayya, I've got a meetings for the next 3 hours, but I'll work on it on the side..  it's going to take me a bit to figure this out, since I have to figure out a safe return path.  I see what is 'wrong', but it's less clear how to fix it16:00
RPfray: at least we know what is wrong16:00
frayya, it's definitely the efault and statx case though16:00
fray(or I'll say that case could definitely trigger this, even if it's NOT the case right here..  since I don't know if it is or isn't)16:00
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frayeffectively what is happening is: sigmask, take lock, check if path is null (set errno and return if it is), resolve path, run wrapper, drop lock, return signals, return16:01
frayif I could 'goto' the drop lock/return that would solve it -- but I'm not sure that is possible.. gcc doesn't like goto labels without callers these days.. and selectively putting in the caller and label could be tricky, but it's all in generated code so I know where it would have to go16:02
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