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LetoThe2ndroussinm: basing off something like this? https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-arm/tree/meta-arm/conf/machine/qemuarm64-secureboot.conf08:53
LetoThe2ndrburton: when was our last rant on imx?08:54
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aduskettHow do I build a test image? IMAGE_CLASSES += "testimage" and IMAGE_FEATURES += "allow-empty-password empty-root-password allow-root-login" results in ERROR: core-image-sato-1.0-r0 do_testimage: File build/tmp/deploy/images/qemux86-64/core-image-sato-qemux86-64.rootfs.testdata.json not found ([Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'build/tmp/deploy/images/qemux86-64/core-image-sato-qemux86-64.rootfs.testdata.json').09:31
aduskettHave you built the image with IMAGE_CLASSES += "testimage" in the conf/local.conf?09:31
aduskettwhich, obviously, IMAGE_CLASSES += "testimage" is in my local.conf :)09:31
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aduskettThis is on master-next09:33
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mcfriskaduskett: check with "bitbake -e core-image-minimal" that those changes are effective. I'm using EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES:append = " allow-empty-password allow-root-login empty-root-password ssh-server-dropbear" and IMAGE_CLASSES:append = " testimage testexport"09:37
mcfriskthe += appends were overwriting some defaults and thus had to resort to :append instead09:38
aduskettbitbake -e core-image-minimal |grep -E "^IMAGE_CLASSES="09:39
aduskettIMAGE_CLASSES=" testimage qemuboot qemuboot license_image create-spdx-image-3.0"09:39
aduskettbitbake -e core-image-minimal |grep -E "^IMAGE_FEATURES="09:40
aduskettIMAGE_FEATURES="allow-empty-password allow-root-login empty-root-password"09:40
aduskettlooks good to me lol09:40
aduskettI will blow away sstate-cache and cache09:40
aduskettand tmp09:40
mcfriskkeep sstate cache and cache, wipe just tmp09:46
aduskettYeah I tried wiping just tmp lol09:47
kanavinaduskett, you need to rebuild the image after these changes09:47
kanavinif you just re-run -c testimage, it won't work09:47
kanavinno need to blow tmp though09:47
mcfriskif changes were made to the image config details then image may not get properly rebuilt09:47
mcfriskoh tmp may need to be wiped for sure, many many things can go wrong if that's not done and image config details were changed09:48
aduskettkanavin, ah ok. Well hell09:48
aduskettI already wiped tmp in my first attempt09:48
kanavinmcfrisk, no. if it needs to be wiped, that's a bug.09:48
aduskettbut I think I was running -c testimage instead of building the image and then running -c testimage09:48
mcfriskif rm_work is used, then for sure best to wipe tmp to avoid really strang problems in images after config changes09:49
mcfriskI've seen qemuboot related changes also not going correctly to the exported conf file, so I think wiping tmp is good idea if things don't work09:50
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aduskettwiping tmp is usually my go-to strategy anyways09:50
mcfriskyep, incremental rebuilds only work up to certain point09:51
kanavinthat means you're working around bugs instead of addressing them :-/09:51
mcfriskif build is interupted, tmp is in inconsistent state and many things can fail in odd ways after that. wiping tmp clears that. If build failed, tmp is in inconsistent state and many recipies don't rebuild correctly after that. yep these are bugs but also corner cases in the recipes09:52
kanavinyes, but if the build succeeded, then there's no need to wipe tmp, ever09:53
aduskettkanavin, right now I am switching between different architectures to test the update from dnf4 to dnf5 so I don't trust tmp :P09:53
kanavinfair enough :) if swimming in uncharted waters09:54
aduskettThere's going to (hopefully) be a lot of discussion around dnf5, and I don't want that discussion to be "These architectures/distros/tests don't work"09:55
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kanavinaduskett, when you have something ready I can throw it on the autobuilder for you09:55
kanavinso you can work through the fails and at least have the patchset ready from CI perspective09:55
aduskettkanavin, I think I have something now, hang on09:56
aduskettugh, after this stupid meeting10:01
aduskettOf which I totally did not forget about!10:01
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jclsnShould I add all recipes in one patch or one patch each?10:29
rburtonone each is nicer to review10:30
jclsnaye10:32
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jclsnWhat kind of key type is good? RSA? ECC?10:50
jclsnfor signing10:50
jclsnOh I am confusing things10:51
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rburtonyou don't need to sign mails11:02
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LetoThe2ndand you also don't need to sing mails.11:04
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aduskettok, musl support patches for dnf5 submitted upstream. Now to run some basic tests, create a patch series, and send it upstream11:38
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ww-wojtekis there any way to define a "python do_*()" task that would be able to import python packages from other python3-*-native recipes? it doesn't seem to work12:28
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rburtonww-wojtek: the python tasks are running in the python that is executing bitbake itself. you can add to sys.path but that would be pretty ugly. the easiest thing is to put a python script in the layer and run it with python3native12:52
rburton(i've been meaning to write a class to extend the python search path to the native sysroot)12:52
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ww-wojtekrburton: ah thanks, the problem with running it in a sh task is that then I don't have access to the "oe_terminal" function from terminal.bbclass and I was trying to add a menuconfig task myself to a recipe13:14
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aduskettlol dnf installs two systemd service files unconditionally even if systemd isn't installed13:27
aduskettand it's always to /usr/lib/systemd even if user merge isn't selected. Ugh13:27
rburtonaduskett: systemd is always usrmerge13:29
aduskettrburton, yes13:30
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aduskettrburton, but if systemd isn't in DISTRO_FEATURES, then usermerge may not be selected13:30
aduskettBut dnf will still install two systemd unit files to /usr/lib/systemd even if systemd doesn't exist13:30
aduskettNothing a bb.utils.contains can't fix in the do_install but it's still annoying13:31
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adusketthey hey. DNF tests pass!13:40
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rburtonnice13:54
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neverpaniccan't really blame dnf upstream for that, they only target systems with systemd14:01
neverpanicsounds like a packaging bug in the yocto recipe14:01
aduskettneverpanic, oh for sure14:02
aduskettIt is slightly annoying they figure every system will have the separate dnf-plugins-core package (which doesn't yet exist in oe-core)14:03
aduskettSo dnf ALSO installs a compatibility-plugins.conf file and then dnf crashes because it can't find the builddep plugin lol14:03
aduskettAgain, fixed with `rm -f ${D}${datadir}/dnf5/aliases.d/compatibility-plugins.conf` in do_install:append()14:03
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ak77what would be minimal yocto build ? maybe with meta-openwrt, a? could one pack it into 64MB ram?14:57
ak77eh. 16MB flash, 64MB ram14:58
aduskettcore-image-minimal14:58
ak77yes. altough i doubt it would fit into 16MB flash. this is more curiousity14:59
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rburtonfor proper minimal you just strip your kernel down and boot to busybox15:01
rburtonthe problem is the kernel size, not userspace15:01
rburtonkernel + one statically linked app is as small as you can get the kernel15:02
ak77yes.  i was exploring that, how to actually strip kernel? probably not by trial and error. somehow get list of all the modules in current running and then include only those, i guess15:02
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paulbarkerak77: `make modconfig` may help15:17
paulbarker`make localmodconfig` I mean15:17
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paulbarkerOh, this is nice: To create a localmodconfig for another machine, store the lsmod of that machine into a file and pass it in as a LSMOD parameter.15:19
paulbarker(from https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/README.html#configuring-the-kernel)15:19
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* neverpanic recalls a university research project from a few years ago that used tracing to identify which code paths were actually used in the kernel, then automatically tailored the config to use those15:22
neverpanicand the related anecdote that their first attempt compiled keyboard support out, because nobody was pressing keys on the test machine15:23
paulbarkerneverpanic: No amount of automation exempts you from having to think carefully about these things!15:24
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LetoThe2ndpaulbarker: I want the amount of automation that exempts me from thinking.15:45
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LetoThe2ndpossibly stupid question, relating to a custom fetching process that I'm encountering. is "cp -fpPRH" FROM an NFS mount problematic?15:49
LetoThe2nd(my DL_DIR is on NFS)15:49
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rburtonLetoThe2nd: shouldn't be afaik15:54
rburtonthough i have to rsync with some annoying flags on zfs so filesystems are basically horrible15:55
LetoThe2ndrburton: yeah.15:55
LetoThe2ndwe should create SSFS. Stockholm Syndrome FileSystem.15:55
adusketthow is the bitbake_min_version error still a thing?15:56
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