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| rburton | walter: so fun, the container image of 25.10 uses gnu utils by default | 11:03 |
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| Noor | Hello all | 11:09 |
| Noor | how we can dump sigbasedata 1.0.do_generate_content.sigbasedata.2a0686cd2aeb37af94ca5e8e17db5264304e337669da91e3e343fff3e9d274a1. I am getting this after doing this | 11:10 |
| Noor | - #self.setup_datacache_from_datastore(mcfn, d) | 11:10 |
| Noor | - #for task in taskdeps: | 11:10 |
| Noor | - # self.dump_sigtask(mcfn, task, d.getVar("STAMP"), False) | 11:10 |
| Noor | + self.setup_datacache_from_datastore(mcfn, d) | 11:10 |
| Noor | + for task in taskdeps: | 11:10 |
| Noor | + self.dump_sigtask(mcfn, task, d.getVar("STAMP"), False) | 11:10 |
| Noor | dumsig says following | 11:11 |
| Noor | bitbake-dumpsig tmp/stamps/x86_64-nativesdk-oesdk-linux/meta-environment-ana-arm64-flex/1.0.do_generate_content.sigbasedata.2a0686cd2aeb37af94ca5e8e17db5264304e337669da91e3e343fff3e9d274a1 | 11:11 |
| Noor | Traceback (most recent call last): | 11:11 |
| Noor | File "/home/ahsann/flex/releases/scarthgap/2025.4/bitbake/bin/bitbake-dumpsig", line 195, in <module> | 11:11 |
| Noor | output = bb.siggen.dump_sigfile(options.sigdatafile1) | 11:11 |
| Noor | File "/home/ahsann/flex/releases/scarthgap/2025.4/bitbake/lib/bb/siggen.py", line 1303, in dump_sigfile | 11:11 |
| Noor | computed_taskhash = calc_taskhash(a_data) | 11:11 |
| Noor | File "/home/ahsann/flex/releases/scarthgap/2025.4/bitbake/lib/bb/siggen.py", line 1236, in calc_taskhash | 11:11 |
| Noor | for dep in sigdata['runtaskdeps']: | 11:11 |
| Noor | KeyError: 'runtaskdeps' | 11:11 |
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| Noor | #Slow but can be useful for debugging mismatched basehashes | 11:18 |
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| litb | Hello all! | 11:48 |
| litb | I am confused about STAGING_DIR_HOST vs RECIPE_SYSROOT. as I understand it, RECIPE_SYSROOT is the sysroot that's also passed to -sysroot of compilers, where configure/compile time dependencies reside. I am not so sure about STAGING_DIER_HOST. it sounds like it is the directory that files after do_install are copied to that themselfs are needed | 11:50 |
| litb | by dependee recipes | 11:50 |
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| litb | the var ref doc says that STAGING_DIR_HOST is by default ${STAGING_DIR}/${MACHINE} . so I don't understand this at all. i thought that each recipe has its own staging directory so that when they copy their header/etc files into their staging location, only their files are copied into the sysroots of dependee recipes. but if there's a shared | 11:51 |
| litb | place for all recipes, how would that be possible | 11:51 |
| litb | also I checked the value of STAGING_DIR and it is build/tmp-configname/sysroots here. that dir doesn't even exist for me. but STAGING_DIR_HOST is build/tmp-configname/work/core2-32.../recipename-version/recipe-sysroot | 11:53 |
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| litb | the value of STAGING_DIR_HOST makes sense to me. because if another recipe DEPENDS on that recipe, then the recipe-sysroot directory is simply copied over, which will automatically also copy all transitive dependencies. But I don't understand, what STAGING_DIR is about, why it points to a non-existing directory | 11:54 |
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| litb | Would be glad if anyone could help me understand, thanks a lot! | 11:55 |
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| litb | I'm working on the yocto system that a colleague of mine set up, and haven't done yocto for some years, so I'm not sure of all the different paths, even tho I read the bitbake introduction manual | 11:57 |
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| litb | This is a prime example of why ChatGPT is completely useless when working with yocto. When asked "Difference between STAGING_DIR_HOST and RECIPE_SYSROOT ?" it completes "STAGING_DIR_HOST points to the staging area for the host system — that is, where tools and headers built for the build host (the machine doing the compilation, e.g., your PC) are | 12:12 |
| litb | placed." but when I just change the question to "Difference between STAGING_DIR_HOST / STAGING_DIR_NATIVE and RECIPE_SYSROOT ?" other vectors weigh in and the answer says about STAGING_DIR_HOST "This is the sysroot for the target build architecture — i.e., where headers, libraries, and tools for the target system are staged as seen from the host | 12:12 |
| litb | during the build.". | 12:12 |
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| rburton | litb: when in doubt, look at bitbake.conf: STAGING_DIR_HOST = "${RECIPE_SYSROOT}" | 12:15 |
| rburton | RECIPE_SYSROOT is the base variable for the per-recipe target sysroot. STAGING_DIR_HOST is identical and then is used to define STAGING_BINDIR (STAGING_DIR_HOST/bindir) etc | 12:17 |
| rburton | walter: what version of ubuntu 2510 did you have chown -> uutils? i just tried the container image and the server install, both have it pointing at gnuchown. i expect this is a desktop thing, which is 'fun' | 12:20 |
| litb | thanks, that makes sense | 12:20 |
| litb | I guess the bitbake doc is wrong then | 12:21 |
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| rburton | litb: if you can please file a bug about confusing docs | 12:23 |
| walter | rburton: I've tried their desktop. | 12:24 |
| rburton | downloading a third iso :) | 12:25 |
| rburton | we have logic for HOST_TOOLS already, so might just need to be a little clever on new ubuntu and switch the links | 12:26 |
| walter | I think you've missed some of my messages. /usr/bin/gnuchown is the default for chown, but that's not the case for other binaries. | 12:26 |
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| rburton | oh that's interesting. i wonder what one broke your build. | 12:28 |
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| litb | One other question.. why does the cmake toolchain file generated by the standard SDK contain only "set( CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH $ENV{OECORE_TARGET_SYSROOT} )" which seems to me to make sense, but when in yocto, the generated toolchain file by cmake.bbclass contains "set( CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH ${STAGING_DIR_HOST} ${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}..." | 12:30 |
| litb | should the SDK and the cmake class not both be consistent here? | 12:30 |
| walter | rburton: there are 7 active links to gnu-coreutils, the rest are going to rust-coreutils, see: https://paste.sr.ht/blob/c142c48d1cd55c8f926f20dc30098af3d5b8397c | 12:30 |
| rburton | notably they didn't redirect the ones that fakeroot needs to intercept | 12:30 |
| litb | the reason I'm asking is because our project builds in the SDK. but when in yocto, our `find_package(Python ...)` call in cmake finds the native python libraries because the native staging dir is in the root paths | 12:31 |
| rburton | litb: probably because 1) cmake is complicated/annoying in cross 2) sdks are complicated 3) nobody else noticed. you'd think that sdk should match target build as much as possible, so patches welcome. | 12:32 |
| rburton | walter: hm chgrp is uutils but chown is coreutils | 12:33 |
| rburton | walter: what recipe did you make it explode on? | 12:33 |
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| rburton | walter: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16028 fwiw | 12:34 |
| walter | I haven't done anything Yocto related on Ubuntu 25.10, I'm on Fedora right now. | 12:35 |
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| rburton | ah ok, sorry getting confused with reports :) | 12:38 |
| rburton | thanks for the poking, i have a vm that looks how i expected now | 12:39 |
| walter | rburton: the default install has both rust-coreutils and gnu-coreutils. So if there's the same binary with a `gnu` prefix, then one can use that to get around the issues. | 12:39 |
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| walter | But, as I said, I can check, I have a spare NVMe on my laptop. I'll give Ubuntu 25.10 a spin over the weekend, and see what breaks. I'll report back. | 12:40 |
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| walter | Oh, and btw, I'm on Fedora 42, which is also marked as unsupported, it worked just fine. Expect for some edge case with SELinux and Docker, where I've built an `build/sstate-cache` inside a container and then tried to reuse it outside of docker, it segfaults in various places, including qemu native stuff. Strange errors. | 12:49 |
| Noor | can someone tell how I can dump this file | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> bitbake-dumpsig tmp/stamps/x86_64-nativesdk-oesdk-linux/meta-environment-ana-arm64-flex/1.0.do_generate_content.sigbasedata.2a0686cd2aeb37af94ca5e8e17db5264304e337669da91e3e343fff3e9d274a1 | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> File "/home/ahsann/flex/releases/scarthgap/2025.4/bitbake/bin/bitbake-dumpsig", line 195, in <module> | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> Traceback (most recent call last): | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> File "/home/ahsann/flex/releases/scarthgap/2025.4/bitbake/lib/bb/siggen.py", line 1303, in dump_sigfile | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> output = bb.siggen.dump_sigfile(options.sigdatafile1) | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> computed_taskhash = calc_taskhash(a_data) | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> File "/home/ahsann/flex/releases/scarthgap/2025.4/bitbake/lib/bb/siggen.py", line 1236, in calc_taskhash | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> KeyError: 'runtaskdeps' | 12:50 |
| Noor | [4:11:04 PM] <Noor> for dep in sigdata['runtaskdeps']: | 12:50 |
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| Noor | I got this file after making change in bitbake | 12:54 |
| Noor | #Slow but can be useful for debugging mismatched basehashes | 12:54 |
| Noor | [4:10:39 PM] <Noor> - #for task in taskdeps: | 12:54 |
| Noor | [4:10:39 PM] <Noor> - #self.setup_datacache_from_datastore(mcfn, d) | 12:54 |
| Noor | [4:10:39 PM] <Noor> - # self.dump_sigtask(mcfn, task, d.getVar("STAMP"), False) | 12:54 |
| Noor | [4:10:39 PM] <Noor> + for task in taskdeps: | 12:54 |
| Noor | [4:10:39 PM] <Noor> + self.setup_datacache_from_datastore(mcfn, d) | 12:54 |
| Noor | [4:10:39 PM] <Noor> + self.dump_sigtask(mcfn, task, d.getVar("STAMP"), False) | 12:54 |
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| paulbarker | Noor: Which commit of bitbake or poky are you using? | 13:09 |
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| Crofton | @walter there are enough F42 people around we catch the problems early (before other distros) and fix them. | 13:37 |
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| rburton | fray: just copied you into a fun pseudo bug. the rust re-implementation of install is still calling into libc functions, but makes pseudo crash. if you have any thoughts on how to debug further or what to kick, i have a container to hand. | 13:48 |
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| fray | rburton which bug, is this the base-passwd thing or something else? | 14:00 |
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| fray | there is a pseudo debug option to list everything it's intercepted | 14:03 |
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| litb | ahhh I found out why this fails.. because the recipe-sysroot folder does not contain the bin files of the python recipe. I need to fix that for this particular dependee.. I believe there are ways to specify extra files to drag out of a particular dependency | 14:04 |
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| qschulz | litb: SYSROOT_DESTDIR for new dirs/files, and you need do_install to install the files in ${D} in the appropriate paths | 14:05 |
| fray | rburton PSEUDO_DEBUG enviroment is what I was looking for, there is also a PSEUDO_DEBUG_FILE setting so messages get logged that may otherwise go to stderr | 14:06 |
| rburton | litb: in cross builds bindir doesn't get transferred into the sysroot because you can't run anything. sounds like you need a -native dependency? | 14:06 |
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| qschulz | litb: SYSROOT_DIRS sorry | 14:06 |
| rburton | fray: i set debug=1 in the latest comment to https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16028. | 14:06 |
| fray | higher numbers provide more information.. | 14:06 |
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| litb | rburton, in this case of find_package(Python , we want to use the target's libs and headers. and cmake only supports that if it also has the interpreter of the target and executes it using qemu user | 14:07 |
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| litb | and actually in this case we directly execute the target python using qemu user aswell, because we wanna pre-compile our py files to pyc and deploy the pyc files only | 14:07 |
| litb | so in this particular case, we wanna get the bin aswell | 14:08 |
| rburton | pyc are not host specific, you can do that without qemu | 14:08 |
| litb | but when we generate the pyc file using the native python, the target python complains about wrong bit size or something | 14:08 |
| rburton | and if cmake is searching the right sysroot it should find the interpretter for native and be able to run that | 14:08 |
| rburton | hm maybe i'm wrong then | 14:08 |
| rburton | or maybe it changed - how old is your yocto? | 14:09 |
| litb | at least the pyc file is generated into a subdir that contains x86_64 so it seems to be target specific | 14:09 |
| fray | rburton the log in the bug, were you running single core, or could there be interleaving happening in the logs? I'm tryign to understand the command that caused the couldn't allocate absolute path ofr null | 14:09 |
| litb | colleague is the maintainer, but i belive he uses the latest LTS version | 14:09 |
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| litb | I'm only trying to fix an issue with the cmake so I'm just messing with my software's recipe | 14:09 |
| litb | python3.13 | 14:10 |
| rburton | litb: .pyc files are typically not anotated with the architecture so that's interesting | 14:10 |
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| litb | maybe it "pre-jits" them. we use -m py_compiler | 14:11 |
| fray | rburton raise the debug level to 2 or even higher. There should be some sort of debug that explains what is calling the failing function (which wrapper) | 14:12 |
| litb | hopefully the python recipe itself pushed its bin into its sysroot stage. otherwise my recipe can't pull it from there so I would need to modify the python recipe then which would be bad | 14:12 |
| rburton | fray: and yeah its probably doing parallel install, i'll fix that | 14:12 |
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| fray | rburton this is what we need the output of in the log: | 14:13 |
| fray | pseudo_debug(PDBGF_WRAPPER, "wrapper called: ${name}\n"); | 14:13 |
| fray | that will tell us what the wrapper was that got the null path, then we can figure out if this is legal or not | 14:14 |
| fray | we've seen cases in the past where certain functions act like 'at' functions if path is null.. but this was more or less undefined behavior at the time, and we had to just match GNU/glibc behavior | 14:15 |
| rburton | yeah, its possibly a bug in the at logic | 14:15 |
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| fray | I'm wondering if rust is doing the same thing, something equivalent to say copy where the path is null, but the filename (or an fd) is defined | 14:16 |
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| Noor | paulbarker commit 139f61fe9eec221745184a14b3618d2dfa650b91 (HEAD, tag: yocto-5.0.11, tag: 2024-04.11-scarthgap, m/master) | 14:18 |
| Noor | Author: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> | 14:18 |
| Noor | Date: Fri Jun 6 11:44:43 2025 +0100 | 14:18 |
| fray | wonder if maybe we need to extend the logic here: | 14:18 |
| fray | if (!path) | 14:18 |
| fray | return NULL; | 14:18 |
| fray | 14:18 | |
| fray | if (!*path) { | 14:18 |
| fray | if (dirfd != -1 && dirfd != AT_FDCWD) | 14:18 |
| fray | return fd_path(dirfd); | 14:18 |
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| fray | return ""; | 14:18 |
| fray | } | 14:18 |
| fray | it's possible that the !path case needs to have the dirfd stuff added to it, but we need to know the call first so we can understand this | 14:19 |
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| rburton | fray: more logging added, if thats useful | 14:27 |
| fray | wrapper called: statx | 14:30 |
| fray | couldn't allocate absolute path for 'null'. | 14:30 |
| fray | wrapper completed: statx returns -1 (errno: 14) | 14:30 |
| fray | so they're calling statx with null for the path | 14:30 |
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| rburton | strace install does this | 14:33 |
| rburton | statx(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib/cargo/bin/coreutils/locales/install", AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT, STATX_ALL, 0xffffc0690fa0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 14:33 |
| rburton | statx(0, NULL, AT_STATX_SYNC_AS_STAT, STATX_ALL, NULL) = -1 EFAULT (Bad address) | 14:33 |
| fray | The man page says that the path is supposed to be an 'empty string' with the AT_EMPTY_PATH flag set | 14:33 |
| fray | So this might be a bug in rust, it's passing NULL not an empty string | 14:34 |
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| rburton | fray: possible to be generous and handle this in pseudo? | 14:37 |
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| rburton | also would pseudo hitting that codepath cause problems later on? | 14:39 |
| rburton | right the _actual_ fail is a bit later | 14:40 |
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| rburton | | RUNNING /home/ross/poky/build/tmp/hosttools/install -m 0644 /home/ross/poky/build/tmp/sysroots-components/x86-64-v3/glibc-stash-locale/SUPPORTED /home/ross/poky/build/tmp/work/x86-64-v3-poky-linux/glibc-locale/2.42+git/SUPPORTED | 14:41 |
| rburton | | wrapper called: lchown | 14:41 |
| rburton | | lchown ignored path, calling real syscall. | 14:41 |
| rburton | | wrapper completed: lchown returns -1 (errno: 22) | 14:41 |
| rburton | | /usr/bin/install: failed to chown '/home/ross/poky/build/tmp/work/x86-64-v3-poky-linux/glibc-locale/2.42+git/SUPPORTED': changing group of '/home/ross/poky/build/tmp/work/x86-64-v3-poky-linux/glibc-locale/2.42+git/SUPPORTED': Invalid argument (os error 22) | 14:41 |
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| rburton | oh the directory is wrong | 14:42 |
| rburton | so the error is somewhere between the two :) | 14:42 |
| rburton | which matches to the report showing that some files appeared in the wrong place | 14:42 |
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| fray | ok, the way the kernel is implemented it simply checks the AT_EMPTY_PATH flag and then ignores the path. So effectively NULL and "" are equivalent | 14:51 |
| fray | so I suspect that snippet of code I posted, if we check there for the AT, it will fix it | 14:52 |
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| litb | Should you use :append by default and only use += when needed? or should you use += by default and :append when needed? Not sure | 14:54 |
| fray | rburton this is the pseudo_client.c - base_path function. In the !path, I would do something like: | 14:55 |
| litb | += overrides "?=" defaults, so it seems safer to me to use :append ? | 14:55 |
| fray | if (!path or !*path) { | 14:55 |
| fray | if (dirfd != -1 && dirfd != AT_FDCWD) | 14:55 |
| fray | return fd_path(dirfd); | 14:55 |
| fray | if (!path) return NULL; | 14:55 |
| fray | return ""; | 14:55 |
| fray | } | 14:55 |
| fray | litb use += if you can, only use the :append when absolutely necessary. Reason for this it's VERY difficult to override :append | 14:55 |
| fray | for overrides, I've come to the conclusion in many places the safest way to do things is use an intermediate variable, something like: | 14:56 |
| fray | MY_VAR_DEFAULT ?= "" | 14:56 |
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| fray | MY_VAR_DEFAULT:my_machine_override = "My_Special_Value" | 14:56 |
| fray | VARIABILE .= "${MY_VAR_DEFAULT}" | 14:57 |
| fray | (or add spaces if necessary) | 14:57 |
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| rburton | fray: i think this is something about how rust install is looking at the uid and trying to chown to root even though the directory is not handled by pseudo. i wonder what gnu install does... | 15:10 |
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| qschulz | agodard: sorry, forgot my manners in the answer to patch 04/16, add "I can suggest" in the mail :) | 15:15 |
| fray | could be, but the immediate problem of the empty path can be solved | 15:15 |
| agodard | qschulz: no worries :) | 15:16 |
| khem | even buf == NULL is wrong to the call, however stax does not crash on these inputs it returns an error and code -1 | 15:16 |
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| rburton | kanavin: would you reject a patch to make bitbake-setup start its questions at 1) instead of 0) | 15:57 |
| khem | ah like Lua array index :) | 15:58 |
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