Wednesday, 2025-11-26

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walterjonmason: Nice, thanks for sharing! I'll look into it soon.02:05
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RPI'm going to try and build 5.3 ..08:09
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KanjiMonsterdunno who's responsible for the site, but it would be nice if the yocto summit page (https://www.yoctoproject.org/event/virtual-summit-2025-12/) would have a link to the schedule (https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2025-12/schedule/), which I only found via instagram (?!)08:30
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mckoanKanjiMonster: halstead ^^^08:36
halsteadmckoan: I can help get this request to the right people on the team.08:37
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KanjiMonsterhalstead: also the pretalx page for the summit (https://pretalx.com/yocto-project-summit-2025-12/) has "TBD" for the Registration link I just noticed08:41
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aduskettI wish there was a variable to add help text for a packageconfig option and for bitbake to print that help text out.08:49
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aduskettsomething like PACKAGECONFIG[foo] = "1,2,3,4,5,6,"Build the foo binary for x functionality"08:51
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kanavinaduskett, I guess a comment in the recipe above the option would kind of help there.09:45
aduskettoh for sure09:45
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aduskettSo I am trying to enable the python3 option for dnf5 but I am getting "Interpreter: Cannot run the interpreter "/usr/sbin/python3""10:07
aduskettThis is after I added cmake-qemu to inherit10:08
aduskettAnd `PACKAGECONFIG[python3] = "-DWITH_PYTHON3=ON,-DWITH_PYTHON3=OFF,qemu-native python3"`10:08
aduskettIs there some black voodoo magic I am missing? (I am sure there is obviously)10:08
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kanavinwhy sbin?10:19
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aduskettkanavin,  That's just what cmake pukes out at me lol10:29
aduskettI'm not defining any custom paths10:30
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paulbarkeraduskett: Do other distros using dnf5 have sbin & bin merged?10:42
paulbarker"/usr/sbin/python3" definitely looks wrong, but it may work on distros with merged sbin & bin10:43
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aduskettpaulbarker, ahhhh10:46
aduskettI didn't even think about that!10:46
aduskettFedora does indeed have sbin and bin merged!10:46
paulbarkerWe probably need to patch it to use /usr/bin/python3 for Yocto, maybe upstream will accept that as well10:46
aduskettyeah good idea10:47
aduskettI have a few patches I need to submit upstream for the project anyways10:47
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aduskettwell, if I inherit python3targetconfig I get ` Interpreter: Cannot run the interpreter "build/tmp/work/cortexa57-simpleimage-linux-musl/dnf/5.3.0.0/recipe-sysroot-native/usr/bin/python3-native/python3"`11:13
aduskettwhich is strange, because shouldn't this use the native arm64 python and not the x64 python?11:13
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jclsnCan pypi.bbclass build every package from pypi.org?11:15
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jclsnFor me it can't find many packages. I usualy go for python3-packagename11:15
jclsnThis is not really clear for me https://docs.yoctoproject.org/langdale/ref-manual/classes.html#pypi-bbclass11:16
jclsnSeems like these should be stripped anyway https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/blob/545e43a7a45be02fda8fc3af69faa20e889f58c4/meta/classes-recipe/pypi.bbclass#L911:19
rburtonjclsn: the fun is that there's no standardisation for naming, so you often need to set the pypi name. I have patches to make the class do what the standards say by default, but notably setuptools does not do that so the defaults _will_ be broken for some set of packages11:22
jclsnrburton: But what is the approach? I want to build this application https://github.com/OHF-Voice/linux-voice-assistant/blob/main/pyproject.toml11:23
jclsnCan setuptools3 just read the pyproject.toml? Do I need to add python3-packagename as RDEPENDS?11:24
rburtonjclsn: inherit pypi and set PYPI_PACKAGE if the default isn't right, then also inherit the right builder class (in that case, python_setuptools_build_meta)11:26
rburtoneg the relevant bits of python3-booleanpy are just inherit pypi setuptools3 and PYPI_PACKAGE = "boolean_py"11:27
jclsnThere is not pypi package for this yet11:29
jclsnBut for the dependencies11:30
rburtonoh right you were talking about pypi11:30
rburtonjust fetch like usual and inherit python_setuptools_build_meta11:31
jclsnLike this? https://0x0.st/KWkq.1.bb11:32
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jclsnSays nothing provides the packages11:33
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rburtonwhat packages?11:36
paulbarkerjclsn: You'll need to make sure recipes exist for each of the dependencies11:36
paulbarkerFor Python, we package each library separately11:36
rburtonoh the rdepends? yes, check meta-python if you've not got that already, but you'll need to write more recipes11:36
jclsnAh okay, write recipes for all dependencies I guess11:37
jclsnI would have assumed pypi.bbclass could pull a list from pypi.org and build them. Guess it is only though to be used for one package in one recipe, isn't it11:37
rburtonright11:37
jclsnaye11:38
rburtonwe don't vendor all the dependencies in every build because that would mean core packages would be duplicated hundreds of times11:38
rburtonand remember to push the new recipes to meta-python :)11:38
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aduskettSo now I have to figure out why cmake-qemu is pointing towards python3-native and not a cross-compiled python and how to deal with this: https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/policy/CMP0190.html11:42
rburtonpython+cross+cmake is a "challenge" so can you just not? :)11:43
rburtonhm that policy change will need a sit down and a coffee i think11:44
aduskettrburton, I mean, yeah, I can disable the python bindings outright11:45
aduskettBut I dun wanna11:45
aduskettlol11:45
jclsnOkay, can do. Via mail patches I guess. I did that once for btop, some time ago ^^11:45
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jclsnI guess also in order of dependency or would one huge patch be fine?11:46
aduskettI think for now, I am about ready to submit a patch to move to dnf511:46
aduskettand I'll just keep the bindings off11:46
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jclsnrburton: Are there any conventions to naming recipe folders? Some are python- and others python3- in meta-python and I don't assume python2 is still used11:53
rburtonjclsn: mostly historical from when there were python-foo and python3-foo recipes that shared files. just use python3-11:54
jclsnAlright11:58
jclsnmeta-python doesn't seem to have a github mirror11:58
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rburtonits part of meta-openembedded, but the official way to send patches is the list anyway12:01
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jclsnBut there are very little packages in scarthgap, some more in master, but I still can't find the right location for the package12:06
jclsnI just build python3-soundcard successfully12:06
jclsnhttps://pypi.org/project/SoundCard/12:06
jclsnWhere should I put the recipe now?12:07
jclsnLet me read this https://docs.yoctoproject.org/dev/contributor-guide/submit-changes.html12:08
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jclsnOkay, that is straightforward, but I am still confused about where to put the patch. I would assume that patches are only sent to master to then land in the next release. In can only count ~20-30 python packages in meta-openembedded. Those can't be all12:14
jclsnkhem: Can you enlighten me?12:15
RPjclsn: $ ls ./meta-python/recipes-devtools/python/python3*.bb | wc says 615 ?12:17
jclsnRP: Oh right, they are all in python/12:19
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jclsnA few are one dir up though. Any reasons for this?12:20
jclsnand why all in recipes-devtools??12:22
jclsnzere must be an orda12:23
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RPjclsn: interpreted languages were traditionally in devtools12:27
jclsnRP: I see. At least that makes the choice of placement easy12:28
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jclsnIs this strictly forbidden? File '/usr/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pyopen_wakeword/lib/libtensorflowlite_c.so' from python3-pyopen-wakeword was already stripped, this will prevent future debugging!13:30
jclsnI could create a recipe for as well of course https://github.com/tphakala/tflite_c13:31
jclsnWould have to anyweay from ARMv6...13:33
jclsn*for13:33
rburtonyou can INSANE_SKIP that away but a proper tflite recipe would be best, but quite painful13:35
jclsnThere is no way around it, because I want to use this on a pizero13:36
jclsnThe build seems straightforwards13:36
rburtonhttps://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-tensorflow fwiw13:37
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rburtonhonestly, just insane_skip that warning away for now13:37
jclsnWas about it13:38
jclsnwas about to13:38
jclsnYeah but the lib won't work with my device, so what's the point?13:38
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rburtonoh did it download a v7 binary?13:39
jclsnrburton: There isn't one https://github.com/rhasspy/pyopen-wakeword/tree/main/lib13:40
rburtonoh so worse, it's installing the wrong files for you13:41
jclsnYes, I am only doing this only Yocto because building this voice assistant on the PiZero is impossible13:41
jclsnStill, many people have these devices laying around and would be nice to have an image13:42
jclsntensorflow-lite is already there fortunately13:43
jclsnNeed to inject it into the recipe13:43
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jclsnIt's hardcoded into the openwakeword.py omg13:46
jclsnOh I can point it to the library13:47
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jclsnI would have to patch the extracted tarball. Should I do this or build from git?13:59
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rburtontensorflow is a pita to build so easiest to drop binaries in the right place if you can14:02
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jclsnrburton: I don't mean tensorflow, but the pymicro-wakeword package. It ships the .so in lib/ and then adds those here I guess https://github.com/OHF-Voice/pymicro-wakeword/blob/e78d73cc8c48111a0ef3f5ce63bffbde7a78660b/pyproject.toml#L4914:08
jclsnMy approach would be to remove that line and then point the application to the tflite library in the system https://github.com/OHF-Voice/pymicro-wakeword/blob/e78d73cc8c48111a0ef3f5ce63bffbde7a78660b/pymicro_wakeword/microwakeword.py#L4614:09
jclsnNot sure where bitbake is complaining exactly14:10
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jclsnHow to properly format a patch for a tarball? I tried14:34
jclsndiff -Naur pyproject.toml pyproject.toml.new > "0001-Dont-use-prebuilt-tflite-library.patch"14:34
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rburtonpatches are applied with -p1 so set pnum=0 in the SRC_URI14:40
jclsnShould have probably use devtool for this or whatever14:42
jclsnBut it's also good to do it manually once I guess14:42
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rburtondevtool would make it easier yeah14:43
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jclsnrburton: tensorflow-lite was skipped: incompatible with host arm-poky-linux-gnueabi (not in COMPATIBLE_HOST)15:06
jclsn:(15:06
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rburtonyou can likely just remove that limitation in the recipe, verify it works, and send a patch15:07
jclsnOkay, will try15:07
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jclsnrburton: Where do I do that? Adding it in the .bb file did not do anything15:12
rburtonthe recipe will have a COMPATIBLE_HOST that limits where it can work15:12
rburtonit won't list arm15:12
jclsnCOMPATIBLE_HOST += "arm" ?15:14
rburtonfor testing, just comment it out. its a regex match.15:15
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jclsnI added it15:15
jclsnThere no such line in the original recipe15:15
rburtonhttps://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-tensorflow/tree/recipes-framework/tensorflow/tensorflow-lite_2.19.0.bb?h=master#n16915:15
jclsnOh at the bottom15:16
jclsnSorry15:16
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jclsnrburton: Nope15:36
jclsnexternal/XNNPACK/src/qd8-f16-qc8w-igemm/gen/qd8-f16-qc8w-igemm-4x8c4-minmax-asm-aarch32-neondotfp16arith-cortex-a55.S:144: Error: selected processor does not support `vsdot.s8 q8,q2,d0[0]' in ARM mode15:36
rburtonhave fun :)15:36
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jclsnIt seems to me that tensorflow does not support arm15:37
jclsnPatching it will be a nightmare15:37
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rburtonor it does, but you need to pass specific options15:37
jclsnLet me check the recipe maintainer15:38
jclsnjulien stephan15:38
rburtonwell, the recipe says "does not support arm"15:38
rburtonso check upstream15:38
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rburtonhttps://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/9b0e9e9f97c5c0ed4cea1276a3d00cfa904baaee/tensorflow/lite/g3doc/guide/build_arm.md15:43
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rburtonit supports the rpi3, but you're targeting a pizero which doesn't have the v8 cores, which will impact any hand-written assembler15:46
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jclsnLet me check for inline assembly15:52
jclsnYeah there is some15:53
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jclsnAt this point I don't know anymore if this is worth the trouble. A Pi Zero 2W costs just 2€ more...15:56
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jclsnI could still upstream python3-mpv and python3-soundcard15:58
jclsnThe rest is all specific to this voice assistant15:59
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mcfriskrm_work, sigh. forgot to wipe tmp after disabling it and got odd images. For example changed QB variables which resulted in do_image_cpio running for initramfs but do_rootfs not and rootfs was wiped and thus only an ampty /init file got in.16:08
mcfriskhave limited disk space so kind of need rm_work but could maybe disable the rootfs deletion since that seems to be the only thing causing issues to me16:09
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mcfriskadding dependency from do_image type tasks to do_rootfs could solve this too but should only be there if rm_work is enabled to retrigger do_rootfs16:10
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rburtonrm_work already does some horrible things so maybe injecting more dependencies isn't a terrible idea16:17
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jclsnrburton: Should I still upstream python3-soundcard and python3-mpv? To master I assume?16:37
jclsnThe rest is not really usable without tensorflow16:38
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rburtonplease do16:45
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jclsnAlright, will do tomorrow17:33
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roussinmHas anyone successfully ran secureboot with qemu with their own set of keys? I always keep getting Access Denied -- rejected probably by Secure Boot. I am using virt-hw-vars to setup my keys in my vars file.17:47
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