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AdrianFRP: I sent a fix for https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1613507:57
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RPAdrianF: thanks! Looks good09:11
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RPndec: to be clear, upgrading linux-firmware wouldn't be allowed with the current policy without a specific exception. There is too much change and it is unknown what the effects would be due to the nature of the content09:12
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ndecRP: rburton thank you for your answers. we are discussing about various things we need to do for our qcom bsp/distro, and that came up. I thought linux-firmware was upgraded in LTS, which is what led to this discussion. we are of course not blocked at all, i will need to think more if i want to open the discussion about what yocto should do.09:35
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yoctonRP: ndec: Note that there are some backported linux-firmware upgrades on kirkstone and scarthgap but none since 2024.09:39
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ndecright, i noticed that. but for supporting our users/customers, we will likely need a rather up-to-date linux-firmware, since qcom platforms tend to use quite a bit of firmware which we get merge when new platforms are launched (and upgraded)09:58
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ndecperhaps we can discuss something for lts mixins for that. but as i just said above, i want to think about it first.09:59
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kanavinteknix, if you're using bitbake-setup, when you run it to create the initial directory structure, it should tell you how to place some of those things where you want them. There are also settings you can set for things like where the downloads are.10:04
RPndec: I'd also just note that the firmware recipe upgrades often have caused problems. We've been working to redesign the recipe a bit to make the issues clearer and another idea for improving testing was added in triage yesterday.10:10
RPSomething with known challenges at upgrade doesn't look like a good stable candidate though :/10:11
RPI'm not saying no, but we would need to handle it very carefully if we did go that way10:11
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teknixkanavin: thanks, i will try that as well.10:22
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kanavinRP paulbarker I just confirmed: fedora 42 contaminates sstate in the same way as fedora 43, the good news is I have a fix in mind11:42
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paulbarkerkanavin: Good to hear that you're making progress!12:55
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RPkanavin: Kind of scary we're seeing it with other "live" distros but glad you have some ideas in mind!13:49
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kanavinRP: yes, I have no explanation for why f42 didn't contaminate builds so far, but the evidence from my experiment is incontrovertible: it does14:45
kanavinat least we know what it is if/when it happens :)14:46
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kanavin(details in bugzilla)14:48
kanavinthe possible fix is being tested14:48
kanavinfailures are only scary when they're not understood :)14:49
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