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yanndRP: I kinda understand that removing SRC_URI from BB_HASH_CODEPARSER_VALS; also keeping PN in there still causes issues as I use it inside SRC_URI.  Any reason not to keep the other ones? What's the impact?09:29
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yoctonThe (successful) end of the kernel Rust experiment [LWN.net] https://lwn.net/Articles/1049831/ => Rust in the Linux kernel is not an experiment anymore. It's here to stay09:59
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kanavin_yocton, you should've left out the 'successful', just to provoke people :D10:03
kanavin_still would be a technically correct statement :)10:03
yoctonkanavin_: the first LWN article went out without it, comments are hilarious10:03
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mckoanmaybe I missed something, in Yocto scarthgap the kernel fragments .cfg are ignored or require special settings?10:50
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mcfriskmckoan: pure kernel.bbclass vs kernel-yocto.bbclass? which kernel recipe? a provided defconfig may get used instead of fragments11:29
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aduskettman, people really don't like the libtoml package lol11:48
aduskettI will do a follow up patch as part of v2 that cleans it up11:48
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rburtonaduskett: the SRCREV_FORMAT should just be the core repo, the versions of the bits inside are moot12:00
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aduskettrburton, eh?12:45
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mckoanmcfrisk: hmmmm sounds good12:55
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mckoanmcfrisk: pure kernel.bbclass + file://defconfig + .cfg worked with dunfell, not with scarthgap13:00
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mcfriskmckoan: sounds like some change in classes/recipes is causing this. check https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#changing-the-configuration13:41
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zeddiithere was never any kernel fragment merging with just the kernel.bclass.13:45
zeddiithat I can say with 100% certainty (at least not with the core only)13:45
zeddiiand that's by design13:45
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mckoanmcfrisk: zeddii: thanks14:29
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qschulzanybody using oelint bbclass (https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/classes/oelint.bbclass?h=master)?15:09
qschulzwondering if we can't simply remove it15:09
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rburtonhad no idea it existed, delete it15:12
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rburtonqschulz: a lot of those checks are in insane.bbclass anyway15:14
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RPrburton: you didn't know about that?! :)15:23
kanavin_neither did I :)15:23
rburtonrace to send the deletion patch15:23
qschulzhehe15:23
kanavin_classes/ and scripts/ and various unstructured contrib-style directories are full of such things in general15:24
qschulzwould be nice to notify the windriver folks as they seem to have had some interest in it15:24
RPThere are some interesting things in it, it is also very opinionated15:24
rburtonanything that isn't already validated somewhere else?15:24
RPrburton: I think there is some stuff, yes15:25
qschulzi'm checking now, will take some time as I am not familiar with that part15:25
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qschulzgot carried away by the HOMEPAGE change15:25
qschulzthat was already merged but didn't know about15:25
RPI know I disagree with some of what it says15:25
qschulzso spent half an hour looking at stuff15:25
rburtonmandating the description be different is not ideal15:25
qschulzfor nothing :(15:25
rburtonhomepage shouldn't be mandatory15:25
rburtonsection is basically free-form unless we want to start structuring that?15:26
rburtonpatch status is checked already15:26
rburtonPN has checks already, iirc15:26
rburtonso nuke it15:26
RPThere is a lot less in there than I remember!15:27
RPyes, I think it can go15:27
kilobyte_chHello, I'm trying to use qml6glsink on a Yocto target. I'm able to build this GStreamer Plugin with a small bbappend, but there seem to be crucial things missing, thus getting a `gst_qml6_get_gl_wrapcontext: Unknown platform` during runtime. Anyone ever tried something similar? My bbappend: https://paste.debian.net/1413524/ Full runtime error: https://paste.debian.net/1413525/15:28
kilobyte_ch(Using X11 if that matters)15:28
qschulzthe patch status is checked with checkpatch no? or what;s its name?15:28
RPLast meaninggul change was in 201415:28
qschulzRP: couldn't find anything with git log -p -S oelint in meta-openmebedded or openembedded-core, so that must have been cruft from looooooooooong time ago (pre-git)15:29
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qschulz(soon 20 years!)15:29
rburtonqschulz: ok found one check that isnt in insane: test_srcuri looks for PN in SRC_URI but not P. so port that, if you're going to send a removal :)15:29
qschulzrburton: exactly what I was about to write :)15:29
RPrburton: I sent a removal15:29
qschulztoo much talking not enough doing from me :)15:30
RPI get accused of not removing things :D15:30
RPI'll take a better patch if sent15:31
rburtonawww i wanted to remove it ;)15:31
RPI just don't want to forget and it is triage now15:31
rburtonah crap so it is15:31
qschulzah the tool is named patchtest :)15:31
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yannddo bitbake-worker logs end up in a logfile by default?  I have a "Worker process (...) exited unexpectedly (1)" with seemingly no reason (with bitbake master, which kinda prevents me from upgrading)15:44
rburtonyannd: try the cooker log for hints15:46
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yanndeven with -D I don't have much more than this terse line there15:48
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yanndhttps://paste.vates.tech/?d329312ba7b527db#81zjPnFvjGgbE6MwiyDGTxZ8jxLXpEbHZY7Wz2LNDze9 to pe precise15:49
kanavin_ask the audience (especially those in the bug triage): how does one use https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ to find if the ffmpeg race is a known, reported issue?15:50
kanavin_I don't think I've ever seen a bug tracker more confusing than this15:50
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rburtonah trac, those were the days15:50
rburtonsearch button top right, change the scope to just tickets15:51
kanavin_hehe15:52
rburtonit appears to do full-text searches15:52
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kanavin_need to get food first though15:52
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yanndwith bitbake 2.9.1 I'm getting into a "the basehash value changed" issue, and have trouble investigating it: -Snone/-Sprintdiff is not showing anything useful, which I attribute to no additional sigdata appearing in tmp/stamps/ as I rerun: the same sigdata actually gets its timestamp refreshed.16:10
yanndif I modify a log to force a new sigdata, I also see BB_TASKDEPDATA (" to '' "... but then in the log diff the new version appears as "old" so I'm a bit confused about that display as well)16:12
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vmesonA good bug for someone starting with YP development:  https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=999316:28
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walterQuick question, when doing development on custom packages that are installed inside the image, do folks usually use externalsrc.bbclass? Or is there another way to test packages that are in private repositories and you actively develop them?16:31
qschulzwalter: depedns what you mean by "development on custom packages"16:31
rburtonwalter: externalsrc (or devtool modify, which uses externalsrc) should work well yes16:32
qschulzdevtool modify for quick local debugging sessions16:32
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qschulzexternalsrc for the same purpose to a local dir16:33
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qschulzsome companies are embedding their sources within the same git repo as the layer (don't do that), and then they use externalsrc for that16:33
qschulzother option is to use AUTOREV... but there is only few cases where it makes sense (CI on rolling branches to catch bugs/stuff to do in advance, etc...) but the downsides may be too much16:35
walterI see, thanks. We have several repositories that contain all sort of things, and I need to make recipies for them, but I also need to support local development. I've used devtool modify with devtool deploy-target with my driver code, but it was a single file shipped in the recipe driectly, and it worked nice, I'm now working to publish the driver in mainline.16:35
qschulz(for one, you need to commit and push, there's no guarantee you and your colleague the next desk over is going to build the same thing even if you hit the Enter key on bitbake command at the same time16:36
qschulzwalter: you haven't explained what you mean by "local development"16:36
qschulzbecause what you may be meaning could be an SDK or eSDK as well16:36
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walterhm... local development... I don't know yet. We're pondering on switching to golang, but rigth now there are some python packages that people work on (not sure if there are any binary things in those, probably there are), but the good news is that everybody has their own dev board, so no tripping over each others changes.16:42
aduskettThank you nvd.nist.gov for blocking me unless I connect to a vpn in the USA16:42
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waltercrawling much? :)16:43
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aduskettjust inheriting the cve-check class lol16:44
qschulzaduskett: UK I guess? Fine here from Austria16:45
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paulbarkeraduskett: Out of interest, what error do you get?16:45
aduskett40316:45
aduskettand netherlands qschulz16:46
qschulzaduskett: no recent age-verification law in NL that could have prompted that though... (which I'm expecting more and more websites will start doing)16:46
qschulz(which was my assumption for the 403 :) )16:47
qschulzwalter: you haven't explained what you're after so it's difficult to know how to guide you16:47
aduskettIf anyone has a link to nvdfkie_1-1.db I would appreciate it16:47
yoctonaduskett: https://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/CVE_CHECK2/nvdfkie_1-1.db ?16:48
qschulzaduskett: or maybe you're too bot-y for them :)?16:48
walterThe thing is that I don't really know yet. I'm exploring ways to package the python code others have made and install it in the Yocto image and make sure that we can easily develop and test changes to that code.16:48
aduskettthat works yocton ! Thanks!16:48
aduskettqschulz, they hate that I left them16:48
aduskett:D16:48
rburtonaduskett: nist is unreliable and falls over fairly often anyway16:49
qschulzaduskett: maybe you're on the naughty list... so close to christmas I would be careful!16:49
aduskettahaha16:49
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qschulzwalter: depends how much you want the devs of that app to know about Yocto16:50
qschulzand how often they'll add new dependencies for python modules or other binaries16:50
qschulzit may be worth checking SDK/eSDK and provide that to them16:51
qschulzthis will help them generate a Yocto image for their app and test locally with that, without having much to know about Yocto at all16:51
qschulzthen then can tap on your shoulder when they need something more recent or new dependencies and  you can generate a new eSDK for them which contains it and you're prepared for when their change is going to make it to the main repo16:52
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qschulzI don't have experience with eSDK so won't be able to help much, my previous employers used externalsrc with source within the same repo as the layer and everybody was more or less expected to use Yocto directly IIRC16:53
qschulzi would not recommend this16:53
walterI see, interesting. Will have investigate and then talk to them about this, but probably an SDK makes sense.16:53
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kanavin_I'd suggest a 'direct' eSDK, rather than making a distributing an esdk bundle17:45
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kanavin_it's much more flexible, but requires a functioning sstate infra in the organization17:45
kanavin_you need to give developers a few commands they don't need to understand, and then they get a SDK environment directly in a yocto build17:46
kanavin_which makes it easy to add more things to that environment if they need them for development17:46
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kanavin_unlike regular SDK or eSDK where they're stuck with what is in the archive17:46
kanavin_walter, ^^^17:46
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