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| aduskett | wooo | 09:59 |
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| aduskett | kmscon is in master-next! | 09:59 |
| aduskett | Thanks rburton ! | 09:59 |
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| agodard | qschulz: yeah, that's probably a good idea. need to replace my 53 > patches with that now :'( | 10:06 |
| qschulz | agodard: I wouldn't be against merging as is and doing an s/project/bitbake-builds/ in one patch | 10:11 |
| qschulz | well wait, there's gonna be a v2 anyway no? | 10:12 |
| qschulz | so I guess it'd be fine to do it in the v2 | 10:12 |
| qschulz | but no fun to send (or review :) ) a 53-patch series | 10:12 |
| agodard | qschulz: yes, I'm working on the v2. but you've given your reviewed-by on a good portion of the patches. with the replacement, I guess I will have to drop some of them | 10:13 |
| qschulz | up to you, hopefully b4 diff -v 1 2 -- v2.url should help with that on my side | 10:14 |
| qschulz | (it didn't work on one of your bitbake series yesterday/...) | 10:14 |
| agodard | qschulz: have you tried playing with --range-diff-opts '--creation-factor <some value>'? | 10:17 |
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| agodard | sometimes the default (60) does not output anything | 10:18 |
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| qschulz | this isn't documented in b4 diff --help | 10:29 |
| qschulz | try b4 diff -v 1 2 -- https://lore.kernel.org/yocto-docs/20260120-terms-refresh-v2-0-fa49d15b209f@bootlin.com/T/\#m6025b8b189113649c6efb48bb7ae365a41928a37 | 10:29 |
| qschulz | and you'll see it's apparently finding 60 patches in v1... | 10:29 |
| qschulz | and duplicate messages which absolutely shouldn't | 10:29 |
| qschulz | so I think the issue is *before* git range-diff is even given a chance | 10:30 |
| agodard | qschulz: maybe this is only on master, not released for now, can't remember | 10:31 |
| agodard | qschulz: yeah it's also finding 60 patches, don't know what happens here. I think you may be able to compare with mbox files downloaded from lore if that helps | 10:31 |
| paulbarker | Morning | 10:36 |
| qschulz | agodard: completely missed that, very helpful thank you! | 10:36 |
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| qschulz | agodard: ah, --range-diff-opts is only in master of b4, not in a release yet | 10:48 |
| qschulz | it did help with another series I had, that is a nice tip :) | 10:53 |
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| qschulz | https://downloads.yoctoproject.org/releases/yocto/yocto-5.3/toolchain/x86_64/ | 12:11 |
| qschulz | seems like we have the wrong version string there (5.2.99 instead of 5.3) | 12:11 |
| qschulz | also I don't see a normal sdk for core-image-minimal, only for sato, is this intended/expected | 12:12 |
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| yocton | qschulz: 5.2.99 instead of 5.3 is a problem we fixed for the upcoming 5.3.1 (just out of QA) | 12:51 |
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| yocton | qschulz: https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-yocto/commit/?h=whinlatter&id=6973ca663aaa9c3ab517ee960ab7985a5bf54c07 | 12:52 |
| yocton | qschulz: I don't know about the SDK though :-/ | 12:53 |
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| Jones42 | It looks like my gcc-source-do_patch fails because rm_work runs prematurely. rm_work only depends on create_(runtime)_spdx and recipe qa. Did anyone come across something similar yet? | 13:12 |
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| paulbarker | Jones42: That's strange. What Yocto Project version are you using? Does the error occur with just oe-core or does it only occur with other layers included in the build? | 13:58 |
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| michaelo | Greetings. Does anybody know why sha256 checksums are not mandatory in recipes? md5sum could be compromised. | 15:06 |
| rburton | i think the point was a phased migration. we could probably drop md5 entirely now. | 15:07 |
| rburton | patches welcome! :) | 15:07 |
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| michaelo | Thanks rburton: great idea :) | 15:19 |
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| Crofton | sounds like we stop testing md5 and warn if they exist? | 15:44 |
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| rburton | /msg moto-timo | 17:26 |
| rburton | stupid irc | 17:26 |
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| kanavin | paulbarker, can't make the ab-int call because I'm deep in debugging f43 sstate issue. there's progress! it's definitely bogus phdr | 17:34 |
| kanavin | I will document findings once I complete the debugging, just wanted to say that asap :) | 17:34 |
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| rburton | cookies for kanavin! | 17:49 |
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| kanavin | we have a problem though. old rhels (8, possibly 9) have old kernels that don't carry the needed fix. | 17:51 |
| kanavin | if pull an alex, and say let's drop them all from supported distros then rburton will revoke the cookies :( | 17:51 |
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| rburton | sadly even I think that dropping rhel9 is a step too far | 17:54 |
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| rburton | though i'd hope that maybe someone. has enough clout to encourage rhel8 to get another backport, it's not like they run a pure upstream kernel | 17:55 |
| kanavin | rburton, my backports to centos stream 10/9 for enabling vgem module (accelerated virtual graphics without a gpu) have been lingering in review hell for over a year | 17:56 |
| kanavin | review hell, as in, only bots making various okay-ish looking comments, and no actual human has looked or said anything | 17:56 |
| kanavin | that's why I'm saying let's drop the distros that don't cooperate :D | 17:56 |
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| paulbarker | kanavin: If we can point at the required kernel commit and it's not too invasive a change, we may be able to get RHEL to take it | 18:03 |
| paulbarker | Given the lifetime of a RHEL-derived release is 10+ years, it's certain that their customers will be trying to run binaries built on newer distros. We can make a good argument for them backporting a kernel fix | 18:04 |
| kanavin | does RHEL offer 'newer kernel on older distro' feature? | 18:04 |
| kanavin | I think ubuntu does this | 18:04 |
| paulbarker | Ubuntu yes, I have no knowledge of the RHEL (& derivatives) world | 18:04 |
| rburton | asking my rhel colleague now | 18:05 |
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| kanavin | I guess we have to disable uninative for rhel8, possibly 9? | 18:12 |
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| RP | kanavin: or we partition uninative into two sets | 18:15 |
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| RP | kanavin: we have done this before. It is horrible and I'd prefer not to but... | 18:15 |
| RP | kanavin: cool on the progress! | 18:16 |
| RP | kanavin: if we know the issue, perhaps we can change patchelf to work in a different way and avoid the bug? | 18:16 |
| kanavin | RP: perhaps, but patchelf isn't wrong in what it's doing now | 18:17 |
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| RP | kanavin: right, but it if the binaries break on a subset of distros, having it detect that and avoid might be "ok" for now | 18:17 |
| kanavin | RP: the next step would definitely be finding out what is special about f43 binaries that patchelf ends up doing something differently than it does on older distros | 18:18 |
| RP | kanavin: sounds like a good plan | 18:19 |
| RP | I've sent the "disable npm fetcher" patch | 18:19 |
| RP | looking forward to the complaints on that on in a few months | 18:20 |
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| kanavin | okay, I've written everything I wanted to say for today about f43 sstate into the bug https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16087 | 18:24 |
| kanavin | now cycling! (indoors sadly) | 18:24 |
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| paulbarker | kanavin: It's probably binutils 2.45. That's common to Fedora 43 & Ubuntu 25.10 but I don't think it's got to any other distro yet | 19:39 |
| paulbarker | (I'm just replying while I think about it, feel free to ignore until tomorrow) | 19:40 |
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| paulbarker | https://sourceware.org/git/?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commitdiff;h=8709351936f7308b460b3d417dd1ff2dba4858cd may have moved sections around a bit in generated binaries | 19:43 |
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| paulbarker | There are other possibly relevant linker changes in 2.45, it's a bit beyond my current understanding of the dark arts of linking & loading. | 19:52 |
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| paulbarker | The discussion on https://github.com/NixOS/patchelf/pull/544 and various issues it links to are probably relevant | 19:55 |
| paulbarker | Great that we've got some progress though! I'll leave it at that for today myself | 19:55 |
| tgamblin | paulbarker: kanavin: adding my minor input, I can confirm that binutils 2.45 was one of the only standouts when I was comparing distro lists. Seems like a thread worth following | 19:56 |
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