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| nhk | Hi everyone. | 07:09 |
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| nhk | I have a problem right now with my current linux build. | 07:09 |
| nhk | The problem right now is when I do `systemctl status` I get the uni decode "wrong". It's fine when I do unicode_start. | 07:09 |
| nhk | I have set the IMAGE_LINGUAS = "en-us" but that doesn't help. (I'm using the yocto version: Scarthgap) | 07:09 |
| nhk | I have tried to look the internet through and ask Chatgpt for help but didn't find the solution to my problem? | 07:09 |
| nhk | Can some of you point me in a direction of where to look or know the solution to my problem? | 07:09 |
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| zzgrove | Has anyone seen a build failure like this on Yocto 5.0.15? | 09:30 |
| zzgrove | build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/rust-native/1.75.0/rust-snapshot/bin/rustc: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 09:31 |
| zzgrove | Should rust-native be depending on zlib-native? It looks like it's trying to pull in the host's zlib (which isn't installed). | 09:31 |
| rob_w | hi teams, is this best practise ok , i see some CVE patches in yocto but they are missing CVE_UPDATE tags in order for cyclondx to create a vex.json entry for them ? | 09:31 |
| zzgrove | This is in the do_install cmd when it runs this: | 09:31 |
| zzgrove | running: build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/rust-native/1.75.0/rust-snapshot/bin/cargo build --manifest-path build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/rust-native/1.75.0/rustc-1.75.0-src/src/bootstrap/Cargo.toml --verbose --frozen | 09:31 |
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| yocton | zzgrove: what host distribution are you using? | 09:46 |
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| zzgrove | NixOS. I know it's not supported so I'm running the build inside a chroot. I can just install zlib in the chroot if that's the correct fix, although I'd have expected it to use Yocto's own zlib-native instead of requiring it on the host. | 09:47 |
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| kanavin | sdora, I didn't check which versions of binutils --no-rosegment is applicable to, as you say it can't be applied universally | 09:48 |
| yocton | rob_w: do you have an exemple of a CVE? I'm not sure what CVE_UPDATE is, do you mean CVE_STATUS? | 09:48 |
| kanavin | RP: I suspect we will have to turn off uninative for distros that have kernels < 5.18 | 09:51 |
| rob_w | sorry CVE_STATUS of course .. yes for example, wget_1.21.4 .. i am on scarthgap, there is a patch for CVE-2024-38428 .. so i added the CVE_STATUS for that too | 09:52 |
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| rob_w | yocton: but bare with me ,, i am new into the CVE stuff and handling them but EU CRA is incoming, so i better get this going this way | 09:53 |
| kanavin | Sundeep, I am going to double check this. The fix I produced is specifically for situations where distro binutils defaults to rosegment (ubuntu 25.10 does not have that problem), and it fixes the issue that only occurs on older kernels. The rust problem does not meet either of these criteria. | 09:53 |
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| yocton | rob_w: CVE-2024-38428 is patched by meta/recipes-extended/wget/wget/CVE-2024-38428.patch which has a "CVE: CVE-2024-38428" line. This line should mark the CVE as patched | 09:55 |
| rob_w | ah i see ... hmm | 09:58 |
| rob_w | so is cyclonedx not picking this up .. | 09:59 |
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| zzgrove | Ended up just installing zlib on the host. Not ideal but it fixes the issue. | 10:11 |
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| Sundeep | kanavin: Intially I too though the same way. I started my analysis by reading the segfault with dmesg and that shows a segfault at some addr on librustc_driver.so with errors-6&15. Meaning a bad addr access/memory corruption/executed data as code/corrupted function pointer. | 10:18 |
| Sundeep | This happens with a buggy llvm also. So I went back and checked when the first issue reported (10/11/2025) there is a llvm upgraded to 21.1.5 and I suspected that. But, reverting to 21.1.4 also reproduces the problem. | 10:18 |
| Sundeep | So, as a next step the I suspected the invalid addr may also happend with mismatched alignment. There I saw your Fedora fix and tried, that works. Here, in this case also we see issue with llvm-native only. | 10:18 |
| Sundeep | I thought the rosegment option is a default with binutils-2.45 (I did not checked). Anyway, you can test the fix from your side also. | 10:18 |
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| kanavin | Sundeep, doing this just now, I'll report in a few minutes | 10:19 |
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| kanavin | I have two sets of llvm-native sstate produced on ubuntu 25.10, one with plain oe-core, another with no-rosegment | 10:20 |
| kanavin | will build rust/cargo-native with one, then the other. | 10:20 |
| kanavin | (on debian12) | 10:20 |
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| rburton | Shout outs by @michaelo for @qschulz and @tlwoerner at the OE Workshop today | 10:31 |
| qschulz | <3 | 10:33 |
| qschulz | greetings to everybody at the workshop! | 10:34 |
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| kanavin | Sundeep, sadly the outcome is negative. The crash happens regardless of whether llvm-native from ubuntu 25.10 was produced with rosegment or not | 11:16 |
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| kanavin | there was probably some important detail missed in your own testing :-/ | 11:16 |
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| Sundeep | kanavin: Thanks for the update. Let us recheck, what we missed. | 11:19 |
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| kanavin | Sundeep, how did you share sstate? you can't just unpack it and expect it to be reused, I suspect that was the case for plain builds, but once you start tweaking bitbake.conf, it either needs to match on all build hosts, or you need to carefully rename sstate items so that signatures match what is expected. | 11:20 |
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| RP | kanavin: I have a horrible idea. When we create the HOSTTOOLS symlinks, how about we inject a wrapper for ld, passing the option we need on systems that need it? | 11:34 |
| kanavin | RP: something like that would work, yes | 11:35 |
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| RP | kanavin: interesting the manual notes " Only useful when used in conjunction with the -z separate-code option" | 11:49 |
| RP | kanavin: I wonder how long that option has been around and what happens if we specify it | 11:49 |
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| kanavin | RP: separate-code has been around for a long time, even alma8 has it | 11:54 |
| kanavin | but I'm not sure what difference it makes: it's specifically presence of rosegment that triggers the buggy chain of events | 11:54 |
| kanavin | fedora 43 enables both https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/binutils/blob/main/f/binutils.spec#_777 | 11:55 |
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| RP | kanavin: reading the docs, the name of the variable is misleading, it is about combining segments | 11:59 |
| RP | kanavin: I thought it might be worth a try to see if there is anything we can set that rearranges the binary into a form which doesn't trigger the issues | 11:59 |
| RP | ok, I wondered if f43 also set the other one | 12:00 |
| kanavin | RP: ah, you mean, disabling this separate-code stuff, which means rosegment becomes a no-op? this should be doable across distros | 12:00 |
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| mcfrisk | BSP recipes copying files to STAGING_DIR directly. should I fix those and pray for vendors to take patches, or bbappend to duplicate install to correct sysroot paths which fixes sstate cache? | 12:10 |
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| kanavin | mcfrisk, toss the BSP layer to the trash bin, and copy pieces of it that you need | 12:13 |
| kanavin | and tell the vendor and your management that their layer is useless and broken | 12:14 |
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| mcfrisk | long term yes, short term need to do something to keep builds alive... | 12:21 |
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| mcfrisk | would be nice to fail builds if recipes try to install or change files outside of B and D | 12:36 |
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| tlwoerner | hurray for the OE workshop! | 13:10 |
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| tlwoerner | RP: i am very interested for feedback on my current work in progress | 13:19 |
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| tlwoerner | i have pushed my standalone wic work, temporarily, to a repository on github | 13:19 |
| tlwoerner | for the time-being, ignore the commit messages there, i just needed a temporary place to push the new wic as it evolved | 13:20 |
| tlwoerner | eventually i want to have a proper git history, plus good commits for the changes | 13:20 |
| tlwoerner | i have also pushed my oe-core work to a repository on github as well | 13:21 |
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| tlwoerner | i'm assuming you would prefer WIP patches? | 13:21 |
| tlwoerner | for the commit messages on the oe-core work i've created detailed and small commits there to better help with review | 13:22 |
| tlwoerner | if this work gets pushed, these nice small commits will need to be squashed otherwise things won't work in-between | 13:22 |
| tlwoerner | currently when i run the oe-selftests for the wic cases | 13:23 |
| tlwoerner | unmodified: successes=93, skipped=1, failures=0, errors=1 | 13:23 |
| tlwoerner | modified: successes=91, skipped=1, failures=2, errors=0 | 13:23 |
| tlwoerner | it would be great if this could get a test on the AB so i can see whether or not my changes are working for the AB | 13:24 |
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| tlwoerner | oe-core: https://github.com/twoerner/openembedded-core__twoerner/tree/twoerner/split-out-wic-02 | 13:25 |
| tlwoerner | standalone wic: https://github.com/twoerner/wic | 13:25 |
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| tlwoerner | oh! and i have to update the commit tags to indicate i used AI to help with the original splitting up | 13:26 |
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| RP | kanavin: maybe, I'm not convinced it becomes a no-op but worth checking if it avoids the problemd | 13:33 |
| RP | tlwoerner: I'm struggling to get to anyone's patches at the moment :( | 13:33 |
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| tlwoerner | RP: understood. could i get a run on the AB so i can find out of my oe-selftest changes are on the right track? | 13:36 |
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| RP | tlwoerner: yes, mathieudb should be able to help make that happen | 13:37 |
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| mathieudb | tlwoerner: I definitely will run it on the autobuilder! | 13:39 |
| mathieudb | I'm in the workshop today, but I will find a bit of time during the week | 13:40 |
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| tlwoerner | mathieudb: thank you! i'll just send it as a set of WIP patches to the list? | 13:44 |
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| mathieudb | You can send an RFC if you want more general reviews, but otherwise I believe I can also just get your branch or make some cherry-picks | 13:46 |
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| tlwoerner | mathieudb: sounds great! i'll set it to the list anyway in case anyone wants to take a look | 13:48 |
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| rburton | Shout out to @AdrianF in the FIT Image session at the workshop! | 13:49 |
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| qschulz | tlwoerner: I actually was wondering last week why wic was in oe-core tree while this is something definitely not specific to YP :) Interesting to see I wasn't the only one having that thought :D | 14:00 |
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| mckoan|away | quick question about 'meta-ti': anyone knows if HDMI with BBB Rev.D is properly supported? | 14:11 |
| mckoan|away | denix: ^ | 14:11 |
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| mcfrisk | Are there good examples of out-of-tree kernel modules which export kernel and uapi headers to other kernel modules and userspace? I wonder if userspace headears can cause conflicts with kernel ones if exported to ${D}/usr/include | 15:12 |
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| vvn | is setting EXTERNAL_TOOLCHAIN enough to make bitbake use it or should I write a custom tcmode file? I don't see any default tcmode-external-* file to use | 16:24 |
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| kanavin | RP: the -z noseparate-code seems promising, it also rearranges the sections in a way that doesn't trigger the issue, and is universally supported on host distros. I'll run an autobuilder test to confirm, once it's out of maintenance window. | 18:15 |
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| rburton | vvn: most people have been deleting external toolchain. Meta-arm had one, dig into the history of meta-arm-toolchain. You need a tcmode file | 19:07 |
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| vvn | rburton: I have this project with an old gcc/uclibc that comes with its own SDK, hard to move out of it for now. I was hoping to use Yocto for the infra otherwise this infra will be a nightmare | 19:10 |
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| vvn | rburton: I'm looking at the deleted arm external toolchain tcmode now, but I was wondering if there was a minimal example somewhere, as it doesn't seem trivial with all the config set in there (the SKIP_RECIPE, PREFERRED_PROVIDER, etc.) | 19:11 |
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| vvn | rburton: I guess I must at least set TARGET_SYS and the SKIP_RECIPE for each precompiled bin/lib, would that be enough? | 19:24 |
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| rburton | If it’s for firmware then it might be easier to just not integrate it. Otherwise it will be annoying… | 19:29 |
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| vvn | you mean not trying to use it as an external toolchain? | 19:30 |
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| vvn | with yocto* | 20:01 |
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