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khemkanavin: I built qemu-native on f43 and edited INTERP to look into uninative like it is on alma8, transferred to alma8 and it works fine with existing uninative00:23
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khemmystery remains00:36
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frayhost compiler or libgcc issue?00:48
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hztjztjdztjztanyone wanna do business or needs help? dm me !01:10
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Hammdisthey all anyone knows whether framebuffer works for rpi5 with mainline linux in yocto?07:26
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mcfriskHammdist: AFAIK Rpi5 support is not available in kernel.org though linux-yocto has some of that. I doubt it works07:33
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Hammdisthttps://github.com/agherzan/meta-raspberrypi <-- I am referring to this layer here07:35
Hammdisthttps://meta-raspberrypi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/layer-contents.html <-- lists "support" for raspberrypi5 but unclear whether framebuffer is included07:36
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Hammdist"""By default, each machine uses vc4 for graphics.07:40
Hammdisttrying it out but .. """Please make sure locale 'en_US.UTF-8' is available on your system07:42
Hammdistok got past that, now """Parsing recipes ...07:46
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mcfriskmeta-raspberrypi could have the needed support, good luck07:47
HammdistxD thumbs-up xD <-- maybe enthusiasm helps07:49
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Hammdist0: linux-raspberrypi-1_6.6.63+git-r0 do_fetch - 16m16s (pid 879372)  78% |###################################          |08:03
Hammdistis this perhaps not mainline and that's why it works?08:04
Hammdistthat version is strange, it seems to be neither a linux/raspberry pi version nor a kernel.org version08:05
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Hammdistit is raspberrypi/linux08:09
Hammdistso it's not mainline after all08:09
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HammdistKeyboard Interrupt, closing down...08:10
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Hammdisthttps://rootcommit.com/2025/raspberrypi5-mainline-linux-kernel/ <-- ah there is a different tutorial that show how to actually get it running with mainline but likely no framebuffer support08:13
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rktaTrying to build an image for the beaglebone. When using branch kirkstone as said in the tutorial I can start a build, but get build errors. When using branch walnascar I get ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'core-image-minimal'. Branch walnascar worked with the default machine qemux86-64. How can I build an image for the beaglebone?10:23
rktaThis is on debian 13. I saw the warning, but I don't have another machine.10:24
mcfriskrkta: on poky or newer bitbake, oe-core and meta-yocto beaglebone MACHINE is called "beaglebone-yocto". is that what you are building?10:27
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rktayes, MACHINE ?= "beaglebone-yocto"10:30
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mcfriskif core-image-minimal is not available then some very basic layers are not correctly setup. I would double check the layer and build setup against instructions. Also double check that MACHINE setting from local.conf is effective and not for example overwritten through environment variables or similar10:32
mcfriskso "bitbake -e core-image-minimal | less" and find ^MACHINE to see that it is really "beaglebone-yocto". but first the BBLAYERS etc needs to be correct for oe-core to be enabled and core-image-minimal recipe too10:34
rktaI started anew, now it's running. Dunno what I messed up before.10:45
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mcfriskrkta: follow https://docs.yoctoproject.org/singleindex.html#yocto-project-quick-build for stable walnascar branch build, set the machine to "beaglebone-yocto" and you should be good10:48
rburtonrkta: note that beaglebone-yocto is pretty minimal so you might want to use meta-ti's beaglebone machine if you want to actually use all the hardware10:48
rktaThat's the guide I followed to get the initial setup. I got an working qemu image that way.10:50
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rktaI don't actually want to use the board, I just have it laying around. I try to get familiar with yocto for a new dayjob.10:51
rburtonrkta: might easier to use a qemu machine then, as you can iterate without having to use physical media10:52
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rktasure, but I also wanted to have an actual blinky :)10:55
rburtonah fair :)10:55
rburtonsomeone needs to add LED support to qemu10:55
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mcfriskgenericarm64 machine works on qemu and on real HW with tons of cables, leds and (annoying) fans, so you can have both10:59
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kanavinfanless computing is the best thing ever, my desk is completely silent11:09
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LetoThe2ndkanavin: the key is to move all fans into the compute rack which is hidden in a closet/basement.11:14
mcfriskonly drawback is then thermal throttling which I get right away if I try to do something heavy on a laptop11:15
mcfriskthus remote compile machines..11:15
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Croftonkanavin: how do you knwo when the build finishes then?12:30
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kanavinCrofton, why would I need to know while I'm out on a bicycle ride?12:39
kanavinCrofton, Yocto elevates https://xkcd.com/303/ to an art form12:39
Croftonif the build finishes while you are riding, you are riding to slow!12:39
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Guest34Hi! I have an embedded device based on a Rpi3 with a yocto distro. Mender is used for updates, so I have A B partitions and one partition for data. Running on an SD card. Right now all partitions are ext4 rw with relatime flag. I am considering doing some changes to prevent SD card wear, but want to know what others are doing on their devices and13:44
Guest34what is considered good practice. Would changing to noatime be beneficial? Increase commit time? Should I use another file system?13:44
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walterI'm working on upgrading libcamera, I've prepared the b4 patch, but I have a question, do folks test the upgrades on real machines or just send the patches? The change is minimal, just the SRCREV and the commit ids in the existing patch. Should I first upgrade the project I'll be using it in? Or should I just build in a fresh yocto project and make sure that the build works? (devtool build did work)14:21
rburtonwalter: do a built after devtool finish to ensure that the recipe is correct at least14:22
rburtonwalter: on real hardware would be good for something that integrated with hardware, but if its just a point release then it should be safe...14:22
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walterAlso, there's an anoying whitespace change in the existing patch, and it's done automatically by the tools. Do I keep the change or undo it manually to not have any changes? (I didn't do any manual change, just used devtool to upgrade from 0.5.2 to 0.6.0)14:33
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rburtonwalter: meh, whatever. the next devtool user will likely do the same change14:52
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Jones42So I'm still struggling with my recipe for a wifi kernel module from linux-backports. do_rootfs complains because it can't find kernel-module-ath12k-6.6.52-g5dc9abe8-g67fafd9a9d26. My recipe's packages however do provide kernel-module-ath12k without the version/revision strings (according to the *.spec file)14:52
rburtonprovide or rprovide14:53
Jones42bitbake/dnf complains about "nothing provides kernel-module-ath12k-6.6.52-g5dc9abe8-g67fafd9a9d26"14:55
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Jones42spec file says "Provides: kernel-module-ath12k14:55
rburtonwhere is that dependency coming from?14:55
Jones42This is what i'm trying to find out. My trusty "bitbake -e" approach fails me here...14:56
rburtonsounds like its coming from the kernel-modules, so maybe check that you disabled that driver in the full kernel build14:57
Jones42https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bc3e435e/14:58
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Jones42here is the spec file. I'm not sure where all those revision-strings are coming from14:58
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Jones42what do you mean with "disabled that driver"?14:59
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Jones42I guess I have to study kernel-module-split.bbclass a bit more.15:01
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rburtonif you're installing kernel-modules then that will depend on all the kernel modules that were built. but you don't want to install the one from the kernel build... so either don't install kernel-modules, or stop the kernel building the same driver that you're building out of tree.  that's a guess anyway, if you're not installing kernel-modules then poking around the feed data to identify where that dependency comes from would be best15:03
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Jones42alright, thanks, will do!15:05
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aduskettFirst patch submitted!15:15
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RPaduskett: seems like a good place to start, thanks!15:22
aduskettRP, Thanks! Hopefully the commit message isn't too boring!15:23
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kanavinaduskett, the commit message is awesome because it explains in full details how to generate the keys if/when needed15:25
kanavinaduskett, would you be surprised to hear that one of my pull requests to openssl (!) has stalled because test data needs to be modified, they have no trace of how to do it, and the person who put it there has vanished15:26
aduskettkanavin, lol I spent way too long regenerating the keys so that commit message is purely out of frustration15:26
aduskettkanavin, I am not surprised at all15:26
aduskettI've ran into that more than once15:26
rburtonaduskett: patches where the commit message is longer than the commit are good patches15:27
kanavinyes, and it also brings xz backdoor type attacks to mind15:27
kanavinyes, unless the commit is removing code :D15:27
aduskettrburton, true. But the best patches are negative LOC patches :D15:27
aduskettahahaha15:27
aduskettExactly15:27
RPaduskett: not boring at all, really useful into to have, thanks15:27
aduskettNo worries! Glad to help!15:28
aduskettNow if the DNF guys could stop ignoring the issue I submitted...15:30
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kanavinsadly we don't exactly have an excellent working relationship with dnf/rpm people. I think they see yocto as a bunch of cross-compile-obsessed weirdos :)15:44
aduskettkanavin, they accepted my MUSL patches at least :D15:44
kanavinred hat and other 'classic' distros using rpm are not in 'cross-compile into sysroots' business :)15:45
kanavinmusl patches are usually 'fix this accidental non-posix code, or missing header include', and not controversial15:46
aduskettkanavin, indeed that's what they were15:46
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aduskettkanavin, although my issue isn't OE specific, it's "hey, DNF isn't importing GPG keys when repo_gpgcheck=1" issue15:47
kanavinyeah, it helps to phrase it such that oe or yocto isn't mentioned, and only bring it up when they ask how are you observing the problem15:48
aduskettyeah probably a mistake to say "I found this while updating dnf4 to dnf5 in OE"15:50
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fullstopcan dm-verity-img.bbclass be used to append verity hashes to partitions generated with wic?19:17
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vmesonCh^W_:  do you have a link to the ftrace specification work that you mentioned?20:12
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neverpanickanavin: Have a link to the OpenSSL PR? Maybe I can help out.20:20
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kanavinneverpanic, https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/2167120:26
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neverpanickanavin: Thanks, I'll mail myself a link, maybe I'll find some time to look at it tomorrow or on Friday.20:29
neverpanicThe OpenSSL tests are a mess. Gigantic C files with very little documentation of how their test functions work, along with assumptions about files that are somewhere in the source tree.20:30
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michaelo_walter: hello following the YPS discussion. Happy to chat about OrangePI RV2 support here.20:48
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michaelo_As I said, I'm waiting for 6.19-rc1 to be out to add features to the board, and once we have SD support, update the recipe in meta-riscv and remove the need for an initramfs.20:49
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vmesonI didn't find the ftrace specifications yet but here's a thread on a specification of /dev/mem, of all things where Ch^W_ is involved.20:57
vmesonIt didn't get a very warm welcome from Greg KH and without more context, so far I agree with him.20:58
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