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[2025-04-15 06:41:07] <mcfrisk> something in latest master is triggering dependency loop with old build configs. I can't see what or why https://pastebin.com/raw/USwDL7Yt
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[2025-04-15 07:11:52] <mcfrisk> genericarm64 core-image-initramfs-boot exceeds INITRAMFS_MAXSIZE of 131072, new size 131545. Increase this for all or just genericarm64, rburton?
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[2025-04-15 09:07:14] <RP> mcfrisk: we're seeing size problems on the autobuilder too :(
[2025-04-15 09:08:16] <mcfrisk> RP: my modular kernel changes reduce the installed kernel modules a lot, no issues building that on genericarm64
[2025-04-15 09:09:27] <RP> mcfrisk: right, but there are other challenges with patches in that series :(
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[2025-04-15 09:10:03] <mcfrisk> RP: yea trying to get to addressing those
[2025-04-15 09:10:52] <RP> mathieudb: I think the openssh upgrade may break the openssh based image tests
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[2025-04-15 09:14:12] <Tyaku> Hello, I have created a Built-in Kernel Module to drive the LED's of our boards. This drive has a Kconfig, with a choice to select the backend (depending on the board it's not the same method to communicate with LED's). But I have a strange issue: In my linux-renesas_5.10.bbappend, I add the correct fragment depending on the machine and the correct fragment is added in kernel build dir, BUT in the kernel
[2025-04-15 09:14:18] <Tyaku> configuration, it's like if the fragment is not taken. It use the defaults values from my custom Kconfig. Note: We have a lot of fragments that are working and in the renesas we don't need to put them in a variable to make them working, once they are in SRC_URI they are used.
[2025-04-15 09:14:26] <Tyaku> I suspect a timing issue:
[2025-04-15 09:14:54] <Tyaku> 1. I have added a SRC_URI that download another repo in the linux-renesas receipe
[2025-04-15 09:15:22] <Tyaku> 2. I have SRC_URI:append:machine1 & machine2 that select the fragments
[2025-04-15 09:15:50] <Tyaku> 3. In the do_configure I copy the files from my "led driver" to the kernel sources
[2025-04-15 09:16:09] <Tyaku> *do_configure:append
[2025-04-15 09:16:58] <Tyaku> question : When is generated the configuration file of the kernel ? Which step ? do_compile ?
[2025-04-15 09:16:58] <mcfrisk> Tyaku: don't modify sources in do_configure, do that via SRC_URI and do_fetch/do_patch
[2025-04-15 09:17:20] <Tyaku> Thanks i'm going to try it!
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[2025-04-15 09:21:46] <Tyaku> mcfrisk: I think it was the problem! I have the correct defines If I do the copy of my drivers files in do_patch:append ! Thanks
[2025-04-15 09:25:48] <rburton> khem: yeah i expect the problem is "clang: remove llvm files" interacting badly
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[2025-04-15 09:55:05] <piie> hello, what are the plans of yocto to support autosetup instead of autotools? e.g. sqlite 3.49 requires autosetup
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[2025-04-15 11:44:45] <rburton> piie: yeah i did a massive sigh when i saw that sqlite switched to something niche that nobody else uses
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[2025-04-15 11:46:06] <rburton> if you desperately need sqlite 3.49 then congratulations you can discover how easy/hard autosetup is to integrate
[2025-04-15 11:47:00] <rburton> tcl, why
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[2025-04-15 12:05:54] <piie> rburton: there's CVE-2025-29088 which is fixed with 3.49.1, that's my major motivation to investigate into this update
[2025-04-15 12:11:42] <rburton> probably easier to backport the fix :)
[2025-04-15 12:11:56] <piie> yeah, the fix looks quite simple to backport
[2025-04-15 12:17:03] <JaMa> rburton: hi, do you have the permissions on layerindex to help with https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/214012 ? I don't really care about qt6, but dependency on it prevents parsing other layers
[2025-04-15 12:22:05] <rburton> permission, yes. clue, dubious. i'll poke around...
[2025-04-15 12:24:15] <rburton> JaMa: https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/scarthgap/layer/meta-qt6/ behold the glory
[2025-04-15 12:24:22] <JaMa> thanks, I think there is a function to add it to a release without creating whole new layer entry (with everything except the "actual branch" copy pasted from other release)
[2025-04-15 12:24:37] <JaMa> lovely :)
[2025-04-15 12:25:03] <rburton> i'm just creating a new LayerBranch instance directly, its a bit tedious as the layer selectors are not sorted
[2025-04-15 12:25:33] <JaMa> in https://layers.openembedded.org/admin/layerindex/layerbranch/add/ ?
[2025-04-15 12:26:12] <qschulz> I stumbled upon auto_features=disabled in meson, c.f. https://mesonbuild.com/Release-notes-for-0-47-0.html#new-type-of-build-option-for-features
[2025-04-15 12:26:32] <qschulz> I'm wondering if it makes sense to have it set by default in the meson.bbclass?
[2025-04-15 12:27:24] <qschulz> It's quite important in Buildroot due to shared sysroot, but in Yocto I'm not entirely sure it does make sense?
[2025-04-15 12:27:33] <JaMa> rburton: are you able to also delete the mappings which don't make sense? e.g. "ERROR: Subdirectory for layer meta-luneos-backports-5.1 does not exist on branch master - if this is legitimate, the layer branch record should be deleted, ERROR: Failed to get last revision for layer meta-luneos-backports-5.1 on branch master" shown in https://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/updates/42831/ is valid as
[2025-04-15 12:27:39] <JaMa> backports-5.1 only makes sense for scarthgap and older, shouldn't be in styhead or master release
[2025-04-15 12:28:35] <JaMa> I guess it exists in master release, because about a years ago the layer was introduced in master branch, but later removed once we upgrade to styhead
[2025-04-15 12:31:27] <rburton> qschulz: <cough> i have a branch for that!
[2025-04-15 12:31:32] <qschulz> rburton: nice!
[2025-04-15 12:31:56] <rburton> qschulz: https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky-contrib/log/?h=ross/mesonopts-wip
[2025-04-15 12:32:21] <rburton> i should rebase and post now
[2025-04-15 12:32:35] <qschulz> rburton: uuuuuuuh, don't we want disabled rather?
[2025-04-15 12:33:34] <rburton> i think you can argue the default either way, and enabled-by-default means we don't need to constantly look at what options are: the build breaks if the depends are not already present.
[2025-04-15 12:35:04] <qschulz> could build if one of the PACKAGECONFIG that is enabled brings the dependency by default
[2025-04-15 12:36:25] <rburton> if a mandatory dependency went to an optional one then disabled-by-default means new options silently are not enabled. enabled by default means new options are either enabled (if depends exist) or fail. i think i prefer the enabled-by-default behaviour.
[2025-04-15 12:37:40] <rburton> JaMa: added qt6 for styhead and scarthgap. i don't have access to delete things.
[2025-04-15 12:38:01] <JaMa> rburton: thanks
[2025-04-15 12:38:17] <qschulz> rburton: I would assume that auto-features=disabled actually is less disruptive today?
[2025-04-15 12:38:39] <rburton> qschulz: not at all - it turns off a load of things that are not explicitly turned on
[2025-04-15 12:38:47] <qschulz> well... I guess it all depends how we want to break things, have packages with less things in it now (disabled), or have build fails because the dependencies aren't there
[2025-04-15 12:38:50] <JaMa> rburton: and did you need to copy&paste everything from older release or did you just select the layer and release? I don't see how to populate the fields from existing release, so I might be doing something wrong or using wrong page
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[2025-04-15 12:39:19] <rburton> JaMa: in the django admin page i can create a new layer-branch instance directly
[2025-04-15 12:39:33] <rburton> if there's a better way i don't know it
[2025-04-15 12:39:39] <JaMa> rburton: with this https://layers.openembedded.org/admin/layerindex/layerbranch/add/ ?
[2025-04-15 12:39:51] <rburton> yes that
[2025-04-15 12:40:02] <rburton> the layer dropdowns are cursed
[2025-04-15 12:40:40] <JaMa> true, but when I selected meta-qt6 and styhead, then it all stays empty below, did you just press save after that and it copied the info somehow?
[2025-04-15 12:41:00] <rburton> i copied that over just in case it doesn't
[2025-04-15 12:42:23] <JaMa> aha I though it's missing permission or wrong admin page, because for me it doesn't populate anything
[2025-04-15 12:43:58] <JaMa> lets see how it works in 3 hours, thanks again
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[2025-04-15 12:44:53] <rburton> qschulz: rebased if you want to poke further at that
[2025-04-15 12:47:40] <qschulz> rburton: thanks, was just a thought, am not planning to work on it :)
[2025-04-15 12:49:33] <rburton> drats, hoped i'd managed to donate a half-finished branch then
[2025-04-15 12:51:00] <qschulz> rburton: good try though ;)
[2025-04-15 12:53:15] <rburton> khem: so yeah clang is just broken now. clang deletes the llvm pieces from itself but doesn't actually depend on llvm in turn
[2025-04-15 12:53:25] <rburton> no idea how that made it through meta-clang CI
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[2025-04-15 12:59:53] <JaMa> rburton: I don't see any new failures with meta-clang in my world builds (other than mesa failures discussed on ML) luckily those meta-clang changes are now only on master branch while walnascar was branched before that
[2025-04-15 13:01:55] <rburton> JaMa: the AB does https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/api/v2/logs/2067819/raw_inline
[2025-04-15 13:02:38] <rburton> mostly variations on | x86_64-poky-linux-clang: error while loading shared libraries: libLLVM.so.20.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[2025-04-15 13:03:56] <JaMa> ah our builds don't change default TCMODE, that's why we might not see this
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[2025-04-15 13:05:02] <JaMa> or TOOLCHAIN = 'clang'
[2025-04-15 13:05:16] <rburton> yeah that will do it
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[2025-04-15 13:24:55] <Jones42> is there a way to get the versions of the DEPENDS used to build a package?
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[2025-04-15 13:26:07] <rburton> not easily
[2025-04-15 13:26:36] <rburton> but as you can't piecemeal build recipes, its less of a problem
[2025-04-15 13:27:36] <Jones42> rburton: can you explain that last sentence? I'm not sure what you meant
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[2025-04-15 13:28:22] <rburton> when people ask about versions of depends its because they want to set version limitations
[2025-04-15 13:28:48] <rburton> if you just want to know for some other reason then eg things like pkgconfig will let you know the version of libraries you're linking against
[2025-04-15 13:29:32] <Jones42> ah, ok. In our case it's just to have it for debug purposes. thanks!
[2025-04-15 13:30:14] <rburton> every image has a manifest with the version of everything that was in it
[2025-04-15 13:32:41] <Jones42> oh! yes, that rings a bell!
[2025-04-15 13:32:43] <Jones42> thanks!
[2025-04-15 13:33:03] <rburton> this is why you explain what you want to _actually_ do :)
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[2025-04-15 13:33:39] <Jones42> haha, yeah, makes sense :)
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[2025-04-15 16:54:26] <khem> rburton: hmm, clang can not use the llvm stuff from core llvm recipe to removal perhaps should be other way around. The CI went through perhaps because it chooses clang to provide all llvm pieces
[2025-04-15 16:55:03] <khem> the merge in core included merging libclc and spirv into llvm recipe which also trips it
[2025-04-15 16:55:18] <khem> we have multiple ways its broken at the moment
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[2025-04-15 16:57:14] <khem> one thought was to straighten it along with merge but then I do not have a reference to compare to so perhaps it needs to be fixed as such before
[2025-04-15 16:58:09] <khem> its the number of combinations we can have of these which makes it even worse
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[2025-04-15 16:59:00] <khem> llvm in core is building clang too but throwing it away and just reusing libclang for one tool
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[2025-04-15 16:59:53] <khem> meta-clang is building both and trying to use libllvm from llmv recipe, right now they are encroaching on each other severely
[2025-04-15 17:00:41] <khem> now I wish we had merged meta-clang merge before this
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[2025-04-15 17:46:17] <khem> rburton: I can think of few ways forward, 1 install the llvm in core for mesa scope like rust does. I dont think there is anyone else consuming llvm from core other than mesa and revert the commit deleting the conflicts in meta-clang but that will have to be change again on merge of meta-clang to core, second option is to assume clang to provide LLVM needs when TOOLCHAIN = "clang" this might break
[2025-04-15 17:46:19] <khem> yocto comaptible check but maybe we can live with that
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[2025-04-15 17:47:13] <khem> with merge this will not be an issue anymore
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[2025-04-15 22:46:07] <dvergatal> hi all
[2025-04-15 22:46:52] <dvergatal> i have a question if i'm using PACKAGE_BEFORE_PN the subpackage is being added as RDEPENDS and i would not like it to be as RDEPENDS is it possible?
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