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| khem | https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/whats-new.en.html#bit-time-t-abi-transition | 01:43 |
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| khem | it seem Debian13 is also defaulting to 64bit time_t perhaps good that they match OE defaults match here | 01:44 |
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| DixitP | Hi rburton, I shared a newer version for the matchbox-panel last week https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto-patches/message/1802. Have a look when you get a chance. | 10:26 |
| DixitP | Hi rburton, I shared a newer version for the matchbox-panel patches last week https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto-patches/message/1802. Have a look when you get a chance. | 10:26 |
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| paulg | was scanning subjects of some older e-mails and saw an update for ccache - and it got me thinking - would ccache ever deliver any significant hit rate if it was effectively preempted by functional and populated sstate? | 16:25 |
| paulg | I know I largely nuked ccache from my workflow around 2010-ish, I would guess? Seemed like very little gain IMHO even back then (for what I was doing). | 16:26 |
| fray | my experience, ccache just complicates things especially debugging, when it goes wrong. and on the fairly powerful machines I have really doesn't improve performance | 16:27 |
| paulg | Okay, so that is pretty much in alignment with what I arrived at. | 16:27 |
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| rburton | paulg: i'm absolutely using it whilst working on the clang recipes, i can build clang in 2 minutes! | 16:34 |
| rburton | in general though, yeah sstate wins | 16:34 |
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| paulg | interesting. | 16:43 |
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| RP | it is all about the context of what you're doing... | 16:58 |
| paulg | yep, totally get rburton example as a sensible use case - you intentionally nuke the sstate because you are fixing/testing build infrastructure and not the package itself. | 16:58 |
| paulg | so, sitting there chewing up electrons and precious time watching it compile for the 18th time is less than ideal. | 16:59 |
| RP | rburton: repro test went green :) | 17:00 |
| rburton | yay | 17:00 |
| RP | rburton: thanks. I'm taking that now :) | 17:01 |
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| thirdapocalypse | i'm trying to add cgroups.scc to my kernel but running build returns "Feature 'features/cgroups/cgroups.scc' not found, this will cause configuration failures"-- i'm not sure where i should be putting this? | 17:56 |
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| paulg | thirdapocalypse, you probably want to have a look at https://docs.yoctoproject.org/kernel-dev/advanced.html | 18:01 |
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| thirdapocalypse | paulg: thanks | 18:54 |
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| thirdapocalypse | debug log says its using <path>/cgroups.scc for cgroups but still returns the same error-- build finished, but the do_kernel_metadata failed. | 18:56 |
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| paulg | thirdapocalypse, https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/yocto/message/65637 might also be useful to you, given what you are doing. | 18:58 |
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| thirdapocalypse | hm, okay. .kernel-meta only contains a cfg directory which only has an empty scratch directory in it | 19:10 |
| thirdapocalypse | kernel-source/kernel does have cgroups files, though. | 19:10 |
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| paulg | might want to look at temp/log.do_kernel_metadata in the linux-yocto pkg build dir for more details (I might not have log file name correct by memory - no build handy ATM) | 19:16 |
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| thirdapocalypse | gotcha. all i'm getting is to check the SRC_URI -- i linked to the .scc file but i guess something else is missing. | 19:20 |
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| thirdapocalypse | probably relevant; i'm modifying a yocto fork for a specific system, so the SRC_URI for the bb file is to their fork instead of the main yocto git. | 19:23 |
| paulg | well, at least you should now be looking in the relevant places, so I'm sure you'll figure it out. | 19:24 |
| thirdapocalypse | sounds good. thanks for the help! | 19:24 |
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| paulg | you might also end up having to resort to "bitbake -e ..." to check paths/variables are sane, given your fork situation. | 19:26 |
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| paulg | set up a "vanilla" (non-fork) build, follow the kernel-dev scc example, get things working there, and then compare to your forked version. | 19:27 |
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| khem | ask the webkit/chromium developers about ccache, it saves the day when you are working on a monster project like that, where out of 50000 c++ sources only 1 needs to be recompiled and relinked | 19:45 |
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| khem | which is 90% of the time the case during development | 19:46 |
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| paulg | no doubt. I was implicitly thinking "typical yocto use case" when I posed the question. | 19:47 |
| paulg | I don't see working on webkit/chromium in my future. :) | 19:47 |
| khem | folks who use yocto with developer hat not with release engineer hat might find it useful too | 19:47 |
| khem | RP: rburton rv32 builds on AB magically started working yesterday onwards I wonder what changed | 19:49 |
| khem | was some patch from master-next dropped I wonder that fixed it | 19:49 |
| fray | I still have the work in my queue, but due to other priorities I haven't gottenback to it | 19:52 |
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| RP | khem: nothing changed that I know of | 21:18 |
| RP | nothing relevant anyway | 21:18 |
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