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eduardooteroHi yocto community, may I ask a general question:08:34
eduardooterofor generating the partition layer, today, we are using WKS files. We are hearing though that "partup" is maybe something to start using for the same purpose?08:34
eduardooteroCould someone, please, kindly share their opinion on this in any?08:34
kanavin_tgamblin, can I see the fail?08:37
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kanavin_and the patches?08:37
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paulbarkerMorning09:27
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landgrafeduardootero: you can try genimage also. nice tool and somehow more flexible than wic09:41
kanavin_halstead, can you check if I can push to contrib repos on openenmbedded.org? I'm getting permission denied errors.09:42
eduardooterolandgraf thanks for your message. The vendor layer is moving from WIC towards partup... and I was wondering why. I will look up for genimage. Thanks a lot for the tip!09:42
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landgrafhmmm. never heard about partup09:45
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rburtoneduardootero62: we use genimage for some rather complex images which contain several file systems and firmware blobs too10:44
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eduardootero62 rburton ok! Good to know :-) So far my image will have 2 partitions for bootloader and 2 for roots, to use RAUC. It is not more complex than that :-)10:45
rburtonfrom 20 seconds of looking at the docs it looks like partup generates a squashfs bundle and writes to real targets, which is a subtly different use case to wic/genimage10:45
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eduardootero62rburton thanks for your reply. The vendor layor stop configuring the partition layer for rauc using the WKS, in scarthgap branch, and moved to partup. I was a bit curious to gather more context. Thanks!10:51
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rburtonputting partup on my list of things to learn about10:57
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rburtonah phytec wrote it10:58
LetoThe2ndsounds like NIH11:00
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rburtongenimage doesn't handle the deploy stage11:02
rburtonwould be nice to start merging functionality...11:02
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* kanavin_ has a chance to deliver the biggest oe-core patchbomb ever seen11:31
rburtonkanavin_: i'm testing (and improving on) the AUH patches that it sent me right now, if its the AUH bomb you're considering dropping11:34
kanavin_rburton, mine is nowhere near ready, and I'm talking about 150+ sized one, just taking everything that succeeded :)11:34
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kanavin_ppl tend to pick one or two, maybe three patches out of AUH, that doesn't make a dent in the overall upgrade backlog sadly :(11:35
kanavin_rburton, in case I am not around in some patch review, openssl 3.6.0 is a no-go, until after the LTS11:36
kanavin_(upcoming LTS)11:37
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paulbarkerI managed to trigger the oomkiller on my machine with a `bitbake world`. It took out cc1plus (ok, makes sense), dbus-daemon (wat?) and finally systemd itself (thanks!)12:43
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rburtonyeah i've had the oom killer go and nuke the session, which is fun13:03
paulbarkerrburton: Thankfully it just took out a container, not the whole machine!13:04
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kanavin_I find it baffling that in 2025 oomkiller still can't tell what is causing the oom issues *and* is safe to kill, and what is a critical service13:08
kanavin_while we're at it, can we also fix implementations of browser histories that seem to have the memory of a fish13:09
kanavin_(except firefox, which is fine)13:10
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eduardootero62rburton Sorry I could not reply earlier. Got caught in some meetings. Yes, PHYTEC wrote it :-)13:40
eduardootero62rburton I need to grab them to explain me partup in depth but I could not get hold of them yet.13:41
kanavin_eduardootero62, I have mailing list archives for yocto and oe-core going back years, and partup is not mentioned even once.13:43
eduardootero62kanavin_ roger that! this seems something they are doing in their own getting away from the standard WIC (wks files), I do not understand all the benefits, etc. But on a personal level I will ask them if not this year after winter holidays about partup. Thanks!13:44
kanavin_eduardootero62, yeah, I guess the point is, it may be technically brilliant (to be established), but it's a vendor tool used only by that vendor.13:45
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eduardootero62kanavin_ true, thanks for confirming that. I did not know about this detail when I asked earlier. Thanks :-)13:46
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qschulzcongrats all on the Whinlatter release14:55
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rburtonhm why has a reconfigure started re-unpacking too15:19
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halsteadkanavin_: I've sent email.18:12
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vboudevinHello everyone, I'm currently creating a .bbclass for generate-cve-exclusions.py. Does someone know if there is a good reason why Scarthgap version of the script is not up-to-date?19:42
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paulbarkervboudevin: We don't generally backport script changes to stable branches unless they fix an identified bug20:36
paulbarkervboudevin: Is there an issue is caused by it not being up-to-date?20:37
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mischiefcan i suppress warnings from python's bitbake code somehow, like 'logger.warning("Submodule included by %s refers to relative ssh reference %s.  References may fail if not absolute." % (ud.url, uris[module]))' from the gitsm fetcher?20:49
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vboudevinpaulbarker: It seems the Scarthgap uses https://github.com/nluedtke/linux_kernel_cves which is not up-to-date compare to the newest version based on cvelistV5. I find 13648 CVE_STATUS for linux_yocto instead of 3048 with a backport20:53
vboudevin3048 with the current version without a backport*20:54
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mischiefseems like i can stuff a filter onto bb.fetch2.logger, but seems maybe fragile21:08
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rburtonvboudevin: patches welcome!21:13
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frayI'm using bitbake-setup for the first time, I already have all of my repositories cloned, can I avoid the git clone?  Is there a way in the registry to say the files are already local and where they are?21:42
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fraylooks like bb-layers-file-relative is an option, but won't work because it says oe-core isn't there.22:02
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JPEWfray: I don't think so. bitbake-setup caches the layer downloads on it's own22:15
JPEWIf you already have the layers cloned, I think you can skip bitbake-setup and use `bitbake-config-build` instead. I kinda think of bitbake-setup as "fetch layers + bitbake-config-build22:17
fraybb-layers-file-relative works if I control certain parts of my environment, other then it now complains it can't access oe-init-build-env22:17
frayI didn't realize there was a second part..22:17
fraywhat I'm trying to do is use my existing repo based cloning for developers, and I'd like to use the full (with download) bitbake-setup for people who aren't developing the layers..22:17
fraythe difference being I need some of the repo capabilities to handle patches and patch reviews across repositories..  but users don't ned any of that22:18
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JPEWfray: repo as in Google repo tool?22:21
frayyes.  Repo allows us to treat multiple repositories as a single component for working on patches across respositories22:24
JPEWfray: Ya, in that case I'd probably just use repo + bitbake-config-build instead of bitbake-setup22:24
frayI have local scripts that will generate pull requests across multiple repositories.. this is often needed since related changes span layers, and we want to review them as a related group -- not individual changes to layer 1, 2 3 and 4..22:24
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frayI'm thinking this is going to just point to a two headed approach.. one for (layer) developers and one for users..  but I need to think about this and experiment some more22:25
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frayI really do want to get rid of the _requirement_ for repo and all of it's overhead22:26
JPEWfray: I think that's fair. FWIW, bitbake-setup works pretty well for the simple "get me something that works" part. Example: https://github.com/JPEWdev/meta-fauxmodore-6422:26
frayya, the get me something that works is what I consider 'user workflow'22:27
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