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| rburton | teknix: just use full paths? also if you're using kas then DL_DIR and SSTATE_DIR are forwarded from the environment automatically. | 10:21 |
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| teknix | rburton: yes explicit paths work too. | 10:45 |
| teknix | Presumably DL_DIR and SSTATE_DIR are forwarded literally and any expansion is then done by bitbake. | 10:47 |
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| rburton | if you set DL_DIR=$HOME/downloads kas ... then the shell expands when setting the variable | 10:48 |
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| teknix | DL_DIR= "${HOME}/downloads" has the effect of silently not saving downloads, neither to ~/downloads or anywhere else afaict. | 10:56 |
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| paulbarker | RP: I have a note about adding a test case to check that a recipe with complex dynamic packaging can be installed into an image, I think it was linux-firmware. Does that ring a bell? I think we mentioned it as a gap in our testing | 11:14 |
| paulbarker | We test that the recipe builds but not that all the generated packages can be installed together | 11:15 |
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| RP | paulbarker: that sounds right. I think there were recent patches to fix the recipe and we wanted to automate testing for whatever that issue was? | 11:19 |
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| paulbarker | RP: That's right, the context is https://lore.kernel.org/openembedded-core/20260123163305.880111-1-dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com/ which is still under review | 11:21 |
| paulbarker | I'll throw together a quick test case | 11:21 |
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| kanavin | RP: yes, I see that config.json sets SSTATE_DIR with ?= | 13:52 |
| kanavin | that should be tweaked to use = I guess | 13:52 |
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| RP | kanavin: I replied on list, it isn't that simlpe | 13:59 |
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| RP | kanavin: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?h=master-next&id=9c2fa86a8c05040a50d41c0d64217523791ee039 maybe | 14:32 |
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| kanavin | RP: yes, I was also thinking that that tasks runs bitbake with SSTATE_DIR and BB_HASHSERVE_DB_DIR set to NFS cache, but BB_HASHERVE set to 'auto' | 14:33 |
| kanavin | that is not a valid combination of course, either BB_HASHSERVE needs to point to a real server, or BB_HASHSERVE_DB_DIR needs to not point at NFS | 14:34 |
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| RP | kanavin: right, the question is more about how it ends up there with half the right config | 14:36 |
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| kanavin | RP: I'm trying to make sense of create_filtered_tasklist() in populate_sdk_ext.bbclass | 14:39 |
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| kanavin | RP: I think that part of the function where it writes a custom local.conf should be tweaked to include BB_HASHSERVE too | 14:41 |
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| RP | kanavin: not necessarily, the trouble is the "build" values for some of these are different from the ones we want in the final eSDK | 14:42 |
| kanavin | RP: the way I read it, that is a 'temporary' local.conf, which is then replaced by 'real' one | 14:44 |
| kanavin | see the finally: block | 14:44 |
| kanavin | or is it? | 14:45 |
| kanavin | I'm low in blood sugar :) | 14:45 |
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| kanavin | ah yes it is | 14:45 |
| RP | kanavin: right, you are probably right but it should probably be all the hashserve variables | 14:45 |
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| kanavin | it first creates a backup of local.conf, then does tweaks, then restores from the backup | 14:45 |
| kanavin | so we should be able to add more tweaks in the middle | 14:46 |
| RP | kanavin: I'm just a little unsure if this is also being used to populate the hashserve cache db | 14:46 |
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| RP | kanavin: in config.json in autobuilder helper we do this: "SDKEXTRAS" : ["SSTATE_MIRRORS += '\\", "file://.* http://sstate.yoctoproject.org/all/PATH;downloadfilename=PATH'", "BB_HASHSERVE = 'auto'", "BB_HASHSERVE_UPSTREAM = '${AUTOBUILDER_HASHSERV}'"], | 14:47 |
| RP | kanavin: i.e. force it into mirror mode and create a local cache file | 14:47 |
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| kanavin | RP: so probably resetting BB_HASHSERVE_DB_DIR is then correct? | 14:51 |
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| Guid | Hi! Will openssl v3.0.19 be available for the next kirkstone? | 15:18 |
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| RP | kanavin: maybe. https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/2/builds/3166 passed with that. I should try a wider test after maintenance I guess | 15:19 |
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| Saur | Guid: Based on the mails to the openembedded-core list, it will not make 4.0.33. | 15:47 |
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| Guid | Thanks Saur, I saw https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/oe-core/patch/20260130114208.3509471-1-vanusuri@mvista.com/ I guess I could backport it in my project anyway | 15:52 |
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| dankm | rburton: Regarding the npm fetcher... | 16:20 |
| dankm | or RP.. | 16:20 |
| rburton | we're both in meetings for the next two hours, but ask and you'll get a reply later :) | 16:20 |
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| dankm | If we were to pay somebody to work on fixing it, but didn't get it finished in time for wrynose, is it something that would be backported to the lts branch? Or would it be stuck in limbo until the next release. | 16:21 |
| dankm | No hurry, async communication is what IRC is for ;) | 16:21 |
| dankm | I'll be in meetings myself starting at about 11 local time (40ish minutes), so no huge hurry to answer that question. | 16:22 |
| dankm | We use it internally quite a bit so there's definitley interest, but of course there's always competing priorities. | 16:23 |
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| RP | dankm: we're not backporting feature enabling. If wrynose ships without it, we don't enable it again | 17:17 |
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| dankm | Great, that answers my question. Really I was looking for ammunition to get approval to pay somebody to work on it. Is more information other than what's in the TSC mailing list about its issues/concerns? | 17:35 |
| dankm | I also wasn't 100% sure about whether it'd count as a feature when backporting or as a bugfix. To a relative outsider like myself it could have gone either way. | 17:37 |
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| kanavin | dankm, you'll probably have to maintain a backport yourself in a fork of bitbake, if you really must have it in wrynose | 18:17 |
| kanavin | dankm, the major issue is complete lack of tests | 18:18 |
| kanavin | so any paid work should start with writing tests | 18:18 |
| kanavin | and then you perhaps should make it more like cargo fetcher, which is basically a syntactic sugar thin extension of http fetcher | 18:19 |
| dankm | kanavin: makes perfect sense. In both cases. I was looking at the npm fetcher and came to the same conclusion about it looking more like the cargo one. | 18:20 |
| kanavin | dankm, and be prepared for multiple review rounds which can prolong the work for weeks, or possibly months | 18:20 |
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| kanavin | it's not something you can contract with a fixed term with expectation that it's 'done' by then | 18:20 |
| kanavin | in case you're not aware how open source works :) | 18:21 |
| dankm | Ha, been there with both OE contributions and other OSS projects when it comes to upstreaming. *I* would be prepared, but I don't know if my colleages would be initially. | 18:21 |
| kanavin | yeah, it can be hard to explain to managers, when they ask for timelines. Upstream review is always a big unknown. | 18:22 |
| dankm | Oh, this would be one of my regular coworkers. When I say "pay somebody", I mean "get it into the budget so a regular employee can work on this" | 18:22 |
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| dankm | I think the ones I have conviced understand the need for upstream review. The ones I need to convice might need some more discussion. | 18:23 |
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