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| agodard | qschulz: could we somehow adjust our instructions to instruct to use venv? it is a better practice anyway | 07:55 |
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| qschulz | agodard: do you think we should use system packages as well? (venv --system-site-packages) | 09:26 |
| qschulz | the issue is if we don't, and people are building the docs and running bitbake from the same terminal, they won't be able to use bitbake anymore | 09:27 |
| agodard | qschulz: good point, I could see that happening somehow. --system-site-packages doesn't hurt I guess then, can't see any reason to not use it atm | 09:29 |
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| mcfrisk | systemd changes trigger rebuild of glibc. i wish it did not... | 10:24 |
| mcfrisk | I guess "inherit systemd" causes that. I think this is not useful. glibc systemd bits should be just files which get packaged and installed only if systemd is used. | 10:26 |
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| rburton | mcfrisk: the ideal would be to extract nscd from the glibc recipe as that's the only piece that has init scripts, but building it without rebuilding all of glibc is not trivial | 10:41 |
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| rburton | i did some of the groundwork already but we might be able to disable nscd out of the box and have the inherits be conditional on the nscd packageconfig | 10:43 |
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| mcfrisk | yep. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveNSCD#Dependencies and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1905142 and https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/c/a7319f331606123a06209b1370abcbac92990c72 have interesting details | 11:00 |
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| rburton | trying to remember why i didn't send the final disabling patch | 11:13 |
| rburton | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=ross/split/nscd needs a bit of love | 11:15 |
| rburton | i think "init manager allow sys??" is the clue as to why it didn't get nice messages and posted | 11:16 |
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| mcfrisk | is there a way to invalidate download cache? something similar to sstate cache or per recipe PE update? Neither SRC_URI nor SRCREV change but lfs bugs result in lfs things missing from cached git repo and shallow tarball | 14:14 |
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| yocton | mcfrisk: the cleanall task : https://docs.yoctoproject.org/ref-manual/tasks.html#do-cleanall | 14:17 |
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| mcfrisk | yocton: something to set in build config or recipes? hard to run specific tasks everywhere if download cache for certain recipes may be broken | 14:22 |
| yocton | mcfrisk: nothing that I can think of :( | 14:27 |
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| Saur | mcfrisk: If you know the recipes for which the download cache is broken, then just run `bitbake -c cleanall <brokenrecipe1> <brokenrecipe2> ...` And if you do not know the recipes, how would you expect a flag in the configuration to help? | 17:34 |
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| apalatn | Hi, is anyone available to help me figure out how to add users to a build? I tried following the answers in a bunch of posts and still can't get it to build | 17:39 |
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| apalatn | Tried making a very simple recipe using useradd, but the do_rootfs task fails saying there's no candidate to install that package | 17:40 |
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| apalatn | Recipe here: https://pastes.io/summary-ad | 17:41 |
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| rburton | apalatn: your recipe has no content so doesn't generate a package | 17:42 |
| rburton | apalatn: set ALLOW_EMPTY:${PN} = "1" to allow empty packages to exist | 17:42 |
| apalatn | Ah, I thought that might be the case, thanks for the tip! | 17:43 |
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| apalatn | Where do I add that? I tried it in the recipe itself and that failed the same way | 17:45 |
| apalatn | Ah, never mind, it was another recipe with the same problem 😅s | 17:46 |
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| * RP wonders who is still using cvs | 17:48 | |
| Saur | No one, I hope... | 17:49 |
| leonanavi | hopefully no one :) | 17:49 |
| RP | If they are, would the dare admit to it... | 17:49 |
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| Saur | RP: Are you considering removing the CVS fetcher? | 17:51 |
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| RP | Saur: patch on the bitbake list and in testing | 17:52 |
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| RP | Saur: I was just going to remove bzr but while I was there... | 17:53 |
| Saur | Sounds like a good idea. :) | 17:53 |
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| tlwoerner | ...assuming, of course, that we don't have any recipes in oe-core, poky, meta-yocto, or meta-oe using cvs | 21:17 |
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| apalatn | Sorry if this is a really basic question, but how do I set variables for one recipe in another recipe? I don't want to do a bbappend since, if I'm not mistaken, those always apply when a layer is included and I'd like to have more control over when these changes apply. For context, I'm trying to change a raspberry pi's config and cmdline files by | 21:32 |
| apalatn | setting the RPI_EXTRA_CONFIG var used by rpi-config_git.bb and appending to CMDLINE used by rpi-cmdline.bb | 21:32 |
| Saur | apalatn: You can't affect one recipe's configuration from another recipe. | 21:33 |
| apalatn | So I'm stuck using either bbappend or local.conf? | 21:33 |
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| Saur | Variables set in configuration files can affect any recipes. And bbappend files obviously affect the recipe they belong to. | 21:35 |
| apalatn | Can I associate a configuration file with a particular image recipe? | 21:36 |
| Saur | No. Configuration files are global. | 21:36 |
| apalatn | That seems odd. Is there no way to have multiple configurations in one layer that are selectable when invoking bitbake? | 21:38 |
| Saur | I have no experience with rpi, so I do not know how one would normally achieve what you are trying to do. | 21:38 |
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| apalatn | The variables are basically just output to text files and assigning them in local.conf works fine, but the C++ programmer in me really wants to encapsulate everything in some recipes or non-global configuration | 21:39 |
| Saur | apalatn: Well, all read configuration files are global. However, which files are actually read depend on the BSP and distro you use. | 21:39 |
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| apalatn | Oh, so I could add these to the distro or machine conf files, I suppose. They do apply globally to the specific device I'm targeting, so that makes sense | 21:40 |
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| apalatn | I should probably write a custom machine conf, right? (It's hard figuring out what yocto best practices are 😅) | 21:41 |
| Saur | apalatn: Remember that each recipe is built individually. And while some recipes are used depending on the image recipe you chose, some of them may also be used in a different image. | 21:42 |
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| Saur | Thus it would not make sense to allow recipes to influence each other, as you would then have to have a completely different set of built packages for each image recipe. | 21:43 |
| apalatn | Ah, that makes sense. You'd get a combinatorial problem with possibly differently-configured packages with identical names/versions. I'm starting to get this stuff, thanks! | 21:44 |
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