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| rburton | kanavin: so our CI just exploded with "WARNING: Sstate directory is on a shared NFS (it is set via SSTATE_DIR to /persist/common_sstate_cache)," | 09:45 |
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| rburton | RP: in case you didn't see, sqlite 3.52 is being retracted. luckily we hadn't upgraded yet! | 09:59 |
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| RP | JPEW: I have various ideas on how we can maybe fix this | 11:43 |
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| vigneshrajendran | Hi Yocto Group, I would like to collect all compiled sources of installed binaries and libraries of target. This is required for OSS clearance of a project. Instead of providing full source code is overwhelming and needs to clarify the sources which and all not compiled. To simplify OSS clearance, i would require only compiled sources of target bins/libs. I have already created script to collect sources from | 12:24 |
| vigneshrajendran | debugsources.list/DWARF. Any other tips from community or something already exists which i dont see from Yocto? | 12:24 |
| RP | vigneshrajendran: if you have the debugsources mechanism, what else do you need? | 12:31 |
| vigneshrajendran | Not suits for all packages. Ex., kernel, glibc and etc. Also I am trying reverse build by deleting sources not compiled but cant keep track of additional filesl ike makefile, tools and so on. need to prove it to OSS team, by the used sources alone i can able to build. And I would like to know community uses any best approach than mine. | 12:34 |
| RP | vigneshrajendran: so you don't want just the source files but makefiles and so on too? | 12:35 |
| vigneshrajendran | For Clearance submission, i would only need to report the compiled and used files on target binaries. Some files just compiled but not deployed. I would like to collect compiled sources without misisng anything. To prove them by a build, i need additional files such as Makefiles, scripts and so on but these files not gonna be on the clearance list which can be categorized as required. Other files dont have any | 12:39 |
| vigneshrajendran | impact, simply reported as unused. | 12:39 |
| RP | vigneshrajendran: in theory the spdx information will show which files are in which packages and which source files are referenced by those binaries. It uses the same debug sources information but might be a better place to try and extract the data | 12:41 |
| RP | I don't know of any tool which will jut give you what you want out the box though | 12:42 |
| vigneshrajendran | I see.. Thanks for the info. Still on dunfell, need to see SPDX data will be useful. | 12:44 |
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| RP | vigneshrajendran: you want spdx 3 for this from master :( | 12:45 |
| vigneshrajendran | doubted it. :-) | 12:45 |
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| jmd | Everyone is saying how great SPDX is, but nobody knows how to use it. | 12:51 |
| RP | jmd: the data is there, we just need the tools to catch up | 12:52 |
| RP | jmd: it is better to have one good way to export the data than everyone just hacking out the bits they need currently | 12:53 |
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| jmd | RP: I agree. Like you say, finding tools to do anything usefull with it is difficult. | 12:53 |
| jmd | But since there are very few tools, I wonder how the proponents know that it's so good? | 12:54 |
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| RP | jmd: we know the data we're putting into there | 13:10 |
| kanavin | rburton, so you've been doing it wrong all along :) | 13:12 |
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| rburton | kanavin: yeah i sort of knew that but never was motivated to fix it ;) | 13:19 |
| kanavin | rburton, if running a hash server is too much pain, you can probably disable hash equivalency altogether as that's what was de facto happening. | 13:21 |
| rburton | kanavin: we have an internal hashequiv already, now i get to stress test it | 13:21 |
| rburton | i asked devops to monitor it in their dashboards so now we can see if they did that | 13:22 |
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| JPEW | FWIW, SPDX 3 tooling is happening. I just recently found that https://sbomify.com/ added SPDX 3/Yocto support | 14:22 |
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| RP | JPEW: I have patches in master-next. They don't actually work yet but working on that | 14:23 |
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| JPEW | RP: Ya, that makes sense. After sleeping on it, I suspected it was related to the interaction between nativesdk and allarch | 14:27 |
| JPEW | I kinda wonder if the same problem exists with native + allarch, but that is much harder to test | 14:27 |
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| RP | JPEW: there are no allarch native recipes, that doesn't make sense | 14:28 |
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| RP | JPEW: these dummy recipes aren't really allarch either, just a case where most of allarch applies | 14:29 |
| JPEW | ca-certificates | 14:29 |
| RP | JPEW: look at the code in allarch.bbclass | 14:29 |
| RP | JPEW: the code isn't active for native | 14:29 |
| JPEW | Oh, ok. So "normally" recipes just do inherit allarch and the RecipePreFinalize handles setting PACKAGE_ARCH = "all" | 14:31 |
| RP | JPEW: right | 14:31 |
| RP | JPEW: the cases where it applies are actually fairly limited | 14:31 |
| JPEW | nativesdk-ca-certififcates does exhibit the same bug, but it's not because allarch.bbclass is doing anything, sstate.bbclass is just doing the wrong thing when allarch and nativesdk are present | 14:32 |
| JPEW | ? | 14:32 |
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| RP | JPEW: could be. I just pushed a fix to master-next, I'll try further builds, see if this works. I've not tested if this addresses the issues you were seeing but I'm hoping it does | 14:33 |
| JPEW | RP: I can rebase on master next and try it now that I've reproduced it easily | 14:34 |
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| JPEW | It looks promising | 14:34 |
| RP | JPEW: if you could please | 14:34 |
| RP | JPEW: there was a decent amount of incorrect things hiding in there | 14:34 |
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| JPEW | RP: Ya, I figured it was "wrong" but it's difficult to figure out exactly how... and the danger of breaking something else seems high when you in that deep | 14:35 |
| RP | I am certainly worried about the impact of some of these kinds of changes | 14:35 |
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| JPEW | RP: I've confirmed that those changes fix the problem I was seeing | 16:12 |
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| JPEW | RP: If I add "addtask build after do_create_recipe_sbom" in meta-world-recipe-sbom, it runs 10x more tasks than necessary when I run "bitbake meta-world-recipe-sbom"; I'd need a way to remove all other dependencies from do_build | 16:30 |
| RP | JPEW: can we do that in anon python maybe? | 16:31 |
| JPEW | I can try | 16:32 |
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| RP | JPEW: I wondered if you deltask and addtask if that would clear it? | 16:32 |
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| JPEW | RP: Anon python seems to work | 16:38 |
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| RP | JPEW: I'm struggling a bit with corner cases on the other patches but have pushed a new version. Hopefully slowly winning | 17:22 |
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| RP | JPEW: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/43/builds/3396 was the result of a build of current master-next without your patches | 17:35 |
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| RP | JPEW: ERROR: buildtools-make-tarball-1.0-r0 do_populate_sdk: Unable to find SPDX provider(s) for: nativesdk-sdk-provides-dummy | 17:35 |
| RP | ERROR: uninative-tarball-1.0-r0 do_populate_sdk: Unable to find SPDX provider(s) for: nativesdk-sdk-provides-dummy | 17:35 |
| RP | JPEW: any idea what I need to tweak offhand? | 17:36 |
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| JPEW | That happens because the provider (recipe) of the runtime name is not in the SPDX dependencies | 17:54 |
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| JPEW | SPDX uses that weird extra task to get dependencies, which I removed | 17:54 |
| RP | JPEW: it looks like PKGDATA is messed up with my changes | 17:55 |
| JPEW | Ah, that would also do it | 17:55 |
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| tgamblin | kanavin: yes, it was the same error in the 16074 bug | 18:32 |
| tgamblin | I don't know if this is related or not, but sometimes when I try to trigger it, testimage takes a comically long time to finish: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZzCA9X0c/ | 18:33 |
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