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| paulbarker | Morning | 07:53 |
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| RP | hi paulbarker | 08:53 |
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| JaMa | paulbarker: Hi, any plans for supporting ubuntu-26.04 with glibc 2.43 on host? We will need at least new uninative from master, m4-native, gettext-native fixes (instead of upgrades from master) and probably more, I can help with that if there is consensus to get them merged eventually | 10:01 |
| JaMa | I mean for whinlatter branch, surprisingly older m4-native in scarthgap doesn't fail with glibc 2.43 on host | 10:02 |
| paulbarker | JaMa: I think it usually comes down to how invasive the needed changes are | 10:02 |
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| JaMa | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=28552a7b6c94060c7ab3899619ab8afb74124d02 https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=7d35b0e7929d666af783db835a3a809f8f6ce429 https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=c1fb515f2a88fa0a0e95529afc07a99db001af0e would be the start, then I can extract just the glibc fix from | 10:05 |
| JaMa | https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=97dd558277ea48e2161f389d6458517da6e04e4a and similarly from https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=0ed7b56814d8337d1bd97cd2a4460065dba79207 that should be enough to build minimal image IIRC | 10:05 |
| RP | paulbarker: I guess whinlatter is to be discontinued soon too which is probably part of the reason for the question | 10:05 |
| paulbarker | JaMa: I think we need to wait until 26.04 is out, then look at whether we can easily support it in wrynose/scarthgap | 10:06 |
| paulbarker | As RP says, whinlatter will be EOL, so will kirkstone | 10:06 |
| JaMa | OK, won't offer my help until someone looks :) I can switch to bit older 26.04 snapshot (the glibc was upgraded for 26.04 in last week) | 10:08 |
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| paulbarker | JaMa: Sorry, I don't mean to sound dismissive. We're just focused on the last features for the LTS release and I don't want us to take on too much more until they're done | 10:18 |
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| RP | JaMa: your help is definitely welcome, it is just a question of how much work we should do on whinlatter now | 10:28 |
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| JaMa | RP: paulbarker: thanks, I have started with scarthgap issues, m4 and gettext surprisingly doesn't fail there so it might be just the first 3 commits I've mentioned, doing the rebuild from scratch now | 10:29 |
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| RP | "Central error: [ 0.545473] calibrate_delay_direct() failed to get a good estimate for loops_per_jiffy." - kvmclock change fallout? | 11:53 |
| RP | https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/valkyrie/#/builders/6/builds/3477 | 11:53 |
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| hcg | Is there a way one can indicate a recipe will be deprecated in a future release? I see the SKIP_RECIPE variable, but I would like to provide a warning to users of certain recipes of ours which are being deprecated. | 12:37 |
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| RP | hcg: put a bb.warn in the recipe? | 12:42 |
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| hcg | RP: Thanks | 12:51 |
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| kanavin | RP: seems like that, yes | 13:33 |
| kanavin | (kvmclock change) | 13:33 |
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| rburton | hcg: you could make a little class, then you can use bitbake-layers to find all recipes that inherit it, and control whether it warns or skips based on a variable, etc. | 13:41 |
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| tgamblin | RP: kanavin: so I'll send a revert patch and we'll keep the ultra 7 worker disabled? | 14:08 |
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| Guest6 | Hi | 14:09 |
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| RP | tgamblin: I didn't merge it yet | 14:18 |
| tgamblin | RP: ah okay | 14:19 |
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| qschulz | rburton: jonmason: regarding the TF-A CPEs in meta-arm... I see meta-arm has 4 entries but... | 14:47 |
| qschulz | it doesn't match the one listed in the TF-A repo: https://github.com/ARM-software/arm-trusted-firmware/blob/master/docs/sbom.cdx.json#L16 | 14:47 |
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| qschulz | We're investigating missing CPEs in Buildroot (none for TF-A Buildroot package) but Buildroot only supports reporting one CPE, which matches the CycloneDX standard where a component can only have one CPE (c.f. https://cyclonedx.org/docs/1.7/json/#metadata_tools_oneOf_i0_components_items_cpe) | 14:55 |
| jonmason | qschulz: seems like it should be an '_' instead of a '-', right | 14:55 |
| jonmason | err...arm-trusted-firmware should be trusted_firmware-a | 14:56 |
| jonmason | if that's all that's needed, I should be able to crank that out | 14:56 |
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| qschulz | jonmason: the issue is... it's been in releases, so maybe in addition to fixing it we should also add yet another CPE in case someone reports something for an older version reading the older docs? | 14:57 |
| qschulz | (checking my claim about being in releases first, gimme a sec) | 14:58 |
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| jonmason | looking at 2.12, that sbom file doesn't exist | 14:58 |
| qschulz | since v2.13 | 14:58 |
| jonmason | (or it's somewhere else) | 14:59 |
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| qschulz | 5e04d63612d9 ("chore(docs): add a SBOM template in CycloneDX format") | 14:59 |
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| jonmason | ok, we don't have 2.13 on our master branch. so it'd only be for 2.14 and the git recipes | 14:59 |
| qschulz | i'm wondering how people use the CycloneDX format if you cannot have multiple CPEs for the same thing... | 14:59 |
| jonmason | let me tweak the CVE_PRODUCT and throw out a patch (assuming I'm understanding all of this correctly) | 15:00 |
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| jonmason | I'll make rburton review it internally to verify I'm not being super dumb | 15:00 |
| qschulz | jonmason: my understanding is: 1) need a patch for CVE_PRODUCT to match that CPE 2) maybe change docs in TF-A to use a CPE that is actually used right now | 15:00 |
| qschulz | (need to check but I believe we have CVEs in two CPEs, of course some not in both otherwise it'd be too simple) | 15:01 |
| jonmason | well the upstream docs are something maintained outside of us. Probably need a bug opened on their github or whatever | 15:01 |
| qschulz | jonmason: what do you mean by "us"? still arm no? | 15:02 |
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| qschulz | github is supposedly only a mirror of the gerrit instance | 15:02 |
| jonmason | by us, I mean my team. we're not a small company :) | 15:02 |
| qschulz | maybe 10 or 15 people | 15:03 |
| jonmason | and I think all of our software is "community" | 15:03 |
| jonmason | trying to load trustedfirmware.org.... | 15:03 |
| qschulz | https://review.trustedfirmware.org/plugins/gitiles/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/refs/heads/master/docs/sbom.cdx.json | 15:03 |
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| jonmason | "sign in"?!?! It's like they don't want outsider people contributing | 15:04 |
| qschulz | I can send something there, I already have an account so not an issue, maybe it'll get faster if it comes from someone working at arm though | 15:04 |
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| qschulz | Reading the SPDX v3.0 spec closer, it seems you can have multiple externalIdenfitier per Element (of which a Software Package is).. So just a limitation of CycloneDX format then... And Buildroot only supports that at the moment :/ Anyway, nothing for this channel :) | 15:09 |
| aduskett_ | lol when I run `gdb --args dnf5 update` and then `run` gdb crashes and goes back to the login prompt | 15:09 |
| aduskett_ | Time to see if remote-gdb works better! | 15:10 |
| qschulz | jonmason: will you send a patch to TF-A's gerrit or should I? (and thanks for being so responsive :) ) | 15:10 |
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| jonmason | qschulz: Not trying to pass the buck, but I think you would be better. I don't 100% understand SBOMs, etc, and I'd be a middle-man if questions were asked | 15:14 |
| qschulz | jonmason: fair, not sure I know more than you though :) | 15:16 |
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| qschulz | (I did look at the spec 5min so maybe that's enough difference :D) | 15:16 |
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| jonmason | I mean, I have slept through many talks about SBOM | 15:20 |
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| qschulz | jonmason: rburton: FYI https://review.trustedfirmware.org/c/TF-A/trusted-firmware-a/+/49486 | 16:11 |
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| rburton | qschulz: poked internally to get a reply | 17:05 |
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| qschulz | rburton: added you in Cc | 17:06 |
| rburton | that works | 17:06 |
| qschulz | rburton: FYI, TF-M is also a complete mess on NVD | 17:07 |
| qschulz | I've quickly found three CPEs | 17:08 |
| qschulz | https://nvd.nist.gov/products/cpe/detail/0B6FC39E-B674-473E-ACA5-8393A46FDAE4?namingFormat=2.3&orderBy=CPEURI&keyword=trusted_firmware&status=FINAL https://nvd.nist.gov/products/cpe/detail/2AF395D6-6367-4EFF-A0D0-C0CB6CA99E3E?namingFormat=2.3&orderBy=CPEURI&keyword=cpe%3A2.3%3Aa%3Atrustedfirmware%3Atrusted_firmware-m&status=FINAL and | 17:08 |
| qschulz | https://nvd.nist.gov/products/cpe/detail/AFF337A3-E3A7-40F7-921E-D89450A32CC2?namingFormat=2.3&orderBy=CPEURI&keyword=trusted_firmware&status=FINAL | 17:08 |
| rburton | qschulz: gasp | 17:08 |
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| qschulz | rburton: do you want to be in Cc for the NVD mail? | 17:10 |
| qschulz | about to send it | 17:10 |
| rburton | sure why not :) | 17:10 |
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