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| Saur | RP: The wrynose branch in the yocto-docs repository seems to be lagging behind quite a bit. Was this intentional? | 08:15 |
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| RP | Saur: no, but I know why that happened. It will sync up | 08:31 |
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| Saur | Ok, good. :) | 08:36 |
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| RP | should be there now | 08:38 |
| Saur | Yes. :) | 08:39 |
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| landgraf | bitbake -S printdiff takes more than 30 minutes. sstate is on AWS EFS (NFS mounted) :-/ | 09:40 |
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| RP | landgraf: ouch. That is a slow operation unfortunately | 09:46 |
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| RP | landgraf: we optimised the sstate code so in general it doesn't need expensive filesystem ops but that command does need them | 09:46 |
| landgraf | RP: it's weird because on my dev machine it takes up to 2 minutes... | 09:46 |
| RP | it is doing large numbers of directory searches. We should probably teach it to get one full listing and then query that | 09:47 |
| dvergatal | landgraf: AWS i have same issues but regarding sstate cache mirror on S3 bucket through a cloudfront distribution | 09:47 |
| dvergatal | and on my local machine everything is fine | 09:48 |
| landgraf | RP: there reason why I'm running this because after rebase to wrynose/master builds are much longer even with tiny changes in between | 09:48 |
| RP | landgraf: it does sound like it would be useful to get to the bottom of | 09:48 |
| RP | landgraf: my other "cheat" is to compare two tmp/stamps directories manually for the builds that differ | 09:49 |
| RP | that is what the tool tries to automate, without having a build | 09:49 |
| landgraf | yup. I can understand if it'd be complex multiconfig build we have, but it happens with "simple" all-in-one image as well :-/ | 09:49 |
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| landgraf | RP: for example I Gitlab CI triggered the build yesterday, it took 2 hours 10 minutes (36vCPUs!). if I retrigger same build again it takes 1 hour 30ish minutes (which is too long anyway) without any changes :-/ on kirkstone it was ~20-30minutes | 09:52 |
| landgraf | so funny performance investigation is coming :-/ | 09:52 |
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| crazy_imp | landgraf: vCPUs? any guarantee that those are not "overbooked" and thus the slowdown between the builds? | 10:04 |
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| RP | landgraf: did it reuse sstate? We did have some issues with sstate reuse during this dev cycle but I thought I'd got them | 10:10 |
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| landgraf | RP: default is "bitbake --quiet" so I don't have ssatate usage info handy but build time reduced a bit between rebuilds so I guess it did reuse sstate. will rebuild in debug mode to see. btw I had to cancel printdiff run after 50 minutes :-/ | 10:16 |
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| RP | landgraf: if you save the tmp/stamps/ dirs from builds, you should be able to work it out comparing them | 10:16 |
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| landgraf | I guess I have to measure NFS performance first, the issue occurs only in AWS, local builds are OK | 10:17 |
| rburton | landgraf: did you check the logs/buildstats to see what it was doing? ie did it decide to rebuild a lot. | 10:18 |
| landgraf | RP: will modify build scripts to upload tmp/stamps for analyze, thanks! | 10:18 |
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| landgraf | rburton: we don't have any logs (--quiet) option. AWS cost cutting :D it was quite stable for a year or so and we disabled it to save on cloudwatch or whatever it's called | 10:19 |
| landgraf | time to reenable | 10:19 |
| rburton | landgraf: that's quite a penny pincher considering how useful they are. also archiving the buildstats would be useful for comparison. | 10:20 |
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| landgraf | rburton: yeah. but I was not a descision maker there. We were keeping 3+TB unusable (unreachable) data and saved few cents on logs :D | 10:22 |
| rburton | lol | 10:22 |
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| Guest77 | Hi, Is there a Yocto way to enable secure boot end to end? I'm trying to understand and implement it. Documentation suggestion is also welcome. Device -> FRDM-IMX8MPLUS | 11:01 |
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| paulbarker | Guest77: I think the answer is very specific to your threat model, use case and target hardware. There's no generic solution. I would start by checking the manufacturer's documentation | 12:02 |
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| JaMa | landgraf: my builds are printing top20 longest running tasks at the end of the build, costs only 20 lines of text and often help to guess why it took longer than expected | 12:04 |
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| JaMa | buildstats-summary adds even fewer lines to have some idea what reuse was there | 12:06 |
| Guest77 | paulbarker thanks. | 12:20 |
| Guest77 | I’m looking at it but it seems a bit confusing and since I’m new to the embedded, it would have been easier to follow along with an example but it looks like there isn’t one or maybe I just haven’t found it yet :) | 12:20 |
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| KanjiMonster | is it expected that *-native recipes do not use ccache? | 13:29 |
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| rburton | KanjiMonster: yes | 13:30 |
| rburton | KanjiMonster: look at the class for comments on how to make it work, but you need to bring your own ccache on the host | 13:31 |
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| KanjiMonster | rburton: weirdly enough, gcc-cross-* and binutils-cross-* do seem to use it, or at least I see directories for them in ccache/x86_64-linux | 13:32 |
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| KanjiMonster | rburton: anyway, thanks for the pointer, let's see if that helps figuring faster out why my grpc changes work locally but not when built as grpc-native ... (which took 2 1/2 hours to build with tests enabled) | 13:37 |
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| bhstalel | if it happens and you fork an open source code internally for the company, and then you develop it more, the CVE analysis is based on the version of the package, do you have the same situation ? how would you deal with providing report for the custom added code too ? | 15:02 |
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| bhstalel | I mean, how do you treat this situation ? just provide the CVE analysis as it is without saying that there is an internal code added, or how is the approach to this, I love to hear your opinion on this | 15:08 |
| rburton | bhstalel: automated cve reports are _at best_ a guideline and starting point | 15:09 |
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| bhstalel | rburton how would you approach this situation if the client knows you are adding some code in an open source library and the client knows that the "automated cve report" is not enough in this case | 15:12 |
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| rburton | well unless your added code is reverting fixes then you won't be adding new existing CVEs | 15:13 |
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| bhstalel | rburton that answer helps a lot, thanks | 15:16 |
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| vmeson | rburton: heh: Also, real vim users run it in a terminal. | 22:58 |
| khem | vmeson: omit 'vim' from that statement :) | 23:05 |
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| Guest85 | Hi, is this the right place to ask if scarthgap has support to detect any golang CVEs against SBOM components? | 23:30 |
| khem | I guess so | 23:47 |
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| Guest85 | Maybe more specifically are changes like pURL support on the roadmap for scathgap? | 23:57 |
| Guest85 | https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/commit/c12f3f10b608f8cf51804b210c7f124dd406708c | 23:57 |
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