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| agodard | tlwoerner: I saw your removal proposal, maybe we can try and port the missing features to upstream vim | 06:53 |
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| KanjiMonster | RP: with current master I now get this: https://pastebin.com/fR5a8TYL | 07:37 |
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| RP | KanjiMonster: meta-virtualization needs the patch on the mailing list | 07:39 |
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| KanjiMonster | RP: do you by chance have a link? | 07:41 |
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| RP | https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/meta-virtualization/message/9728 | 07:42 |
| * RP notes his typo in the subject | 07:42 | |
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| KanjiMonster | RP: that seems to help (now it fails because there is no yocto-cfg-fragments-6.12-native and I'm trying to build a 6.12 kernel, but that is a different issue and mine to fix) | 07:48 |
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| Saur | RP: I believe I have found the seg fault I mentioned on the tech meeting that we have been seeing in `useradd`. It is in pseudo in `ports/unix/guts/linkat.c` on line 38 where a `strncmp(...)` should be `!strncmp(...)`. This code was last modified in 2017 so I wonder what has changed for it to start showing up now... I'll send a patch once I have done some more testing and verification. | 10:16 |
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| qschulz | tlwoerner: there's an issue for https://git.yoctoproject.org/wic/tree | 10:19 |
| qschulz | the HEAD is feature/no-create | 10:19 |
| qschulz | well... on cgit I mean | 10:19 |
| qschulz | because git cloning returns master (which is tagged v0.3.0) | 10:20 |
| qschulz | also, master is missing quite a few things that are in scarthgap | 10:21 |
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| paulbarker | qschulz: "master is missing quite a few things that are in scarthgap" - do you mean for wic or in general? | 10:22 |
| qschulz | LICENSE.MIT, LICENSE.GPL2-.0-only, MAINTAINERS.md, SECURITY.md, etc... | 10:22 |
| paulbarker | Ah | 10:22 |
| qschulz | paulbarker: only talking about wic for now | 10:22 |
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| qschulz | the repo layout is different also, using src/ in master but wic/ in scarthgap | 10:23 |
| qschulz | also why are they named after yocto branches, I would assume wic should now be completely unrelated to YP? | 10:23 |
| qschulz | (like, there's no need to have per-Yocto-release support for wic?) | 10:24 |
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| RP | Saur: nice find! Need to let fray take a look! | 12:06 |
| Saur | RP: What I can't understand (yet) is why this happens now, and only very rarely. After all, the code has been there for almost 10 years... | 12:08 |
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| RP | Saur: do you use rpm? If not, the useradd code is the only place we use chroot | 12:13 |
| Saur | RP: We use RPM... | 12:13 |
| RP | Saur: ok, so there are only two places we/you use chroots :) | 12:13 |
| RP | Saur: perhaps something in shadow changed and it uses linkat when it didn't previously? | 12:14 |
| RP | or perhaps something changed in glibc to prefer that? | 12:14 |
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| Saur | Could be, but why aren't we seeing it for all builds then? | 12:19 |
| Saur | Btw, here is the backtrace from the core dump: https://pastebin.com/Xudn32QB | 12:19 |
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| Saur | `pseudo_chroot_len` is 91 so much longer than the length of `oldpath`. | 12:20 |
| RP | Saur: I guess we've been getting lucky, that does look like a codepath which would be called most of the time | 12:22 |
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| Saur | Yeah. I'm adding some instrumenting printouts and comparing to a build for another product. The drawback is of course that changing `pseudo` and having to wait for the `rootfs` task means most recipes will rebuild and each iteration takes about 40 minutes on my machine... | 12:23 |
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| rburton | Saur: bb-lock | 12:33 |
| rburton | RP: i'm wondering if the chroot is why rpm rootfs have different shadow, if its loading a config file | 12:34 |
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| RP | rburton: it is possible | 12:43 |
| RP | Saur: I know that problem all too well | 12:43 |
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| paulbarker | rburton: You like removal patches... Happy Friday: https://lore.kernel.org/bitbake-devel/20260424-make-shallow-v1-0-fc06b12ca344@pbarker.dev/T/ | 12:49 |
| rburton | lovely :) | 12:52 |
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| silviu | hi everybody! When is the tentative release date of kirkstone 4.0.35? | 12:59 |
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| paulbarker | silviu: We have the test report so I suppose I should start moving it forward! Will take a few days | 13:01 |
| qschulz | paulbarker: do you think it'd make sense to put the tentative dates to some website? | 13:02 |
| qschulz | e.g. https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases | 13:02 |
| paulbarker | qschulz: Like https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Release_calendar? | 13:03 |
| qschulz | paulbarker: aaaah :) | 13:03 |
| qschulz | a link from the other page would be nice (if I haven't missed it) | 13:03 |
| paulbarker | It's linked to from the weekly status, where we used to have the full list of upcoming release dates | 13:03 |
| qschulz | We have a link to https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Planning in https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases | 13:04 |
| qschulz | wondering if we cannot replace it with your link | 13:04 |
| qschulz | also, https://www.yoctoproject.org/development/releases/#full doesn't work, because there's no anchor with the full release list | 13:05 |
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| paulbarker | qschulz: I've updated the Releases page with links | 13:06 |
| qschulz | paulbarker: thanks <3 | 13:06 |
| paulbarker | 5.0.17 and 4.0.35 are not on the calendar as I started from May 2026 | 13:06 |
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| silviu | thanks for the quick response <3 | 13:35 |
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| Saur | rburton: I realized that I could do `bitbake pseudo-native` followed by `bitbake -b /path/to/the/image-recipe` and cut the 40 minutes into a few minutes. :) | 14:01 |
| rburton | yeah that works | 14:01 |
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| Saur | RP: I added some instrumentation in `pseudo` and made it print out a message whenever it is about to execute the faulty code, and for my image it happens 1528 times. So it appears that this is quite common and it is only because the allocated string in my particular case has happened to be at the end of a memory block that it fails. But it is still odd that no one else has seen this in ten years... | 14:07 |
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| rburton | RP: as you've been poking, what specifically does rpm do in a chroot? | 14:10 |
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| Saur | RP: I've sent the patch for pseudo to yocto-patches now. Do you want one for openembedded-core as well, or will you tag pseudo once it is integrated and update the recipe with the new version? | 15:14 |
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| dvergatal | guys which package in sstate-cache may contain .config file for example for u-boot package? | 15:38 |
| rburton | sstate? none of them. sstate is build result, not source code | 15:39 |
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| dvergatal | ;/ | 15:46 |
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| dvergatal | rburton: and what about SRC_URI? | 16:06 |
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| rburton | what about it? | 16:06 |
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| dvergatal | which sstate-cache file may contain value of this variable? | 16:09 |
| rburton | none of them | 16:09 |
| dvergatal | ??? echhh :( | 16:09 |
| rburton | sstate is build artifacts | 16:09 |
| rburton | the binaries, not the sources | 16:09 |
| dvergatal | so if i do rm_work i can't see anything whit what the package was configured | 16:09 |
| dvergatal | with* | 16:09 |
| rburton | the logs will exist, and you have the recipes still | 16:09 |
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| dvergatal | yeah but i need to check what config fragment was used for the u-boot | 16:10 |
| dvergatal | to confirm something | 16:10 |
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| rburton | dvergatal: don't use rm_work then :) | 16:14 |
| rburton | or extend the uboot recipe so that it dumps the final config into a package somewhere | 16:15 |
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| rburton | Saur: if you've been chasing useradd problems, i don't suppose you know where /etc/shadow is first created? | 16:17 |
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| Saur | rburton: Can't say I do, no. | 16:18 |
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| Saur | Argh! Something in the recent `DISTRO_FEATURES` changes is causing variable recursion errors during parsing with our layers included in the build, and this is all I have to go on: https://pastebin.com/3RWwDFxj :( | 16:25 |
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| JaMa | one case of this was fixed by RP in meta-virtualization | 16:34 |
| JaMa | after picking it from ML the rest parsed fine for me | 16:34 |
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| JaMa | DISTRO_FEATURES_NATIVE -> DISTRO_FEATURES -> ERROR_QA for efivar_39.bb | 16:36 |
| JaMa | with efivar being the random victim | 16:37 |
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| Saur | Ah, ok. | 16:38 |
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| Saur | Yep, that was it. Thank you, JaMa. :) | 16:39 |
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| RP | rburton: *everything*, it will be hard to replace | 16:50 |
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| RP | Saur: I can update the pseudo recipe when things merge | 16:50 |
| Saur | Ok, good. :) | 16:50 |
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| RP | dvergatal: you can look at the siginfo files for info like that | 16:50 |
| RP | Saur: I just built the release so it may be a little delayed now | 16:51 |
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| Saur | NP. Since `pseudo` is a recipe, it is easy to fix locally using a bbappend. :) | 16:53 |
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