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| paulbarker | Morning | 07:26 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:31 |
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| Guest77 | Hi, are u guys doing sign operations in-build or detached? I mean I saw some variables like UBOOT_SIGN_ENABLE, UBOOT_SIGN_KEYDIR and looks like Yocto supports in-build sign operations. But, is it safe? | 07:53 |
| mckoan | Guest77: I prefer off-build signatures | 07:54 |
| Guest77 | What I mean is, is using keys in a Yocto build considered a best practice? Isn't there a greater chance that this will cause problems compared to the “detached” method? Because keys can be forgotten, cached and so on. | 07:55 |
| Guest77 | mckoan Are you taking the artifacts generated by Yocto and using them in an off-build? | 07:56 |
| mckoan | Guest77: artifacts generated by Yocto are signed out of Yocto build | 07:57 |
| Guest77 | mckoan So detached, thanks for your answer. | 07:58 |
| * LetoThe2nd generally sings out of builds. With or without keys. | 07:58 | |
| Guest77 | I think the built-in feature might be useful for development and learning. | 07:58 |
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| Guest77 | Looks like it's best to sign it out of builds/off-build, thanks for the answers folks! | 07:59 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest77: keys being subject to proper care and management is completely unrelated to a YP build, you always have to do it properly | 08:00 |
| LetoThe2nd | I personally prefer remote signing solutions, but that might be just me. | 08:00 |
| Guest77 | LetoThe2nd Thanks! I'm new to these secure boot topics and apparently there are few resources on how to do this properly. | 08:02 |
| Guest77 | Thank you for sharing your experience. | 08:02 |
| LetoThe2nd | Guest77: the "problems" are that a) requirements and resources often differ and b) such setups are often subject to consultation services, so not shared too easily | 08:04 |
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| RP | morning | 08:19 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: you sing to your builds? :) | 08:20 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: exactly that. no typo, no autocorrect. | 08:20 |
| RP | Guest77: the challenge is most environments and constraints differ so having a "solution" which works for a reasonable number of people is hard | 08:21 |
| yocton | LetoThe2nd: like https://youtu.be/yup8gIXxWDU but with openssl incantations? :p | 08:24 |
| LetoThe2nd | Exactly. | 08:24 |
| mckoan | as usual the keyword is "Depends" :-D | 08:34 |
| RP | mckoan: for which you need PROVIDES :) | 08:38 |
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| LetoThe2nd | sometimes it also RDEPENDS | 08:42 |
| mckoan | LOL | 08:43 |
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| RP | LetoThe2nd: you should know you don't mix buildtime and runtime namespaces by now! :) | 08:44 |
| LetoThe2nd | RP: signature verification is definitely runtime... | 08:44 |
| RP | LetoThe2nd: singing does need to be verified at runtime | 08:45 |
| LetoThe2nd | heheh. more like, at sing time. | 08:45 |
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| rburton | jclsn: make sure your vendor knows that you're not happy with the upstreaming situation and it will be considered when you do another hardware refresh | 08:57 |
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| jclsn | rburton: Don't worry, I made sure. Can't expect anything from them. To be fair, they gave us a whole build setup that works out of the box, which is more than they have to give us | 11:12 |
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| jclsn | I did ask for a Wrynose release or upstreaming efforts though | 11:13 |
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