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| paulbarker | Morning | 07:04 |
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| jmd | ak77__: only on some parts of the globe. | 07:53 |
| deribaucourt | Hello! A question about building an OCI bundle: I want to deploy images on hosts with a plain crun. No docker/podman. Crun accepts a rootfs+config.json bundle format. I am struggling to find the recommended process to build an image in this format with meta-virtualization. Should I program my own post-processed image format? | 07:54 |
| paulbarker | deribaucourt: Do the comments in https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-virtualization/tree/classes/image-oci.bbclass help? I'm not familiar with the different bundle formats so probably can't provide more than a pointer | 08:02 |
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| deribaucourt | paulbarker: It does, but I need to run commands outside of Yocto to generate the rootfs+config.json format. I would prefer avoiding an external build step. From what I gathered, umoci may be used by image-oci as an intermediate step to produce the bundle format I am looking for, but it then gets deleted. The bundle format is actually simpler than the image format, so I'm wondering if I shouldn't simply go for a plain | 08:13 |
| deribaucourt | rootfs folder and generate the config.json as a simple file. | 08:13 |
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| deribaucourt | I think in my use-case, there is value in conserving the temporary bundle from image-oci-umoci.inc. A comment says so: | 08:53 |
| deribaucourt | "# We could make this optional, since the bundle is directly runnable via runc" | 08:53 |
| deribaucourt | Compared to the plain rootfs/ image output, the bundle merges some symlinks. | 08:53 |
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| ak77__ | paulbarker: but but https://patchwork.yoctoproject.org/project/bitbake/list/?series=47764 | 10:04 |
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| phako_ | Hello. has anyone here successfully built from the lts-6.8 branch of meta-qt6 on a scarthgap build? | 11:01 |
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| RP | ak77__: did you see my reply and where Thomas agreed we haven't actually fixed the security holes in those patches? | 12:42 |
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| marex | paulbarker: hey, is there any chance the fitimage fixes for wrynose will land any soon https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core-contrib/log/?h=ycongal/wrynose/kernel-fit ? | 14:01 |
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| RP | rburton: nice finds in the glibc recipe! :) | 16:14 |
| rburton | RP: only went poking in there to see if i could see why it fails with --shuffle. | 16:16 |
| rburton | lol found another bit of historical cruft | 16:17 |
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| RP | rburton: I've been having to try and ignore things as otherwise I'd just get too sidetracked | 16:19 |
| rburton | whereas i am king of sidetrack | 16:20 |
| RP | rburton: look, a squirrel! :) | 16:21 |
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| RP | it is awesome to see the red ones at golfie and thrunton | 16:22 |
| rburton | i love red squirrels | 16:23 |
| paulbarker | marex: Yoann is away for a couple of weeks but I can follow up with Fabian next week, he's providing cover. Could you send me an email so I don't forget? :) | 16:23 |
| rburton | saw some in germany and i was so excited | 16:23 |
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| rburton | RP: well redish https://flickr.com/photos/rossburton/54845171964/in/album-72177720320013527/ | 16:25 |
| RP | rburton: see what you mean about redish! | 16:26 |
| rburton | its a goth red squirrel | 16:26 |
| RP | rburton: see them regularly at golfie | 16:26 |
| rburton | sounds like a reason to visit | 16:26 |
| RP | rburton: one of them! | 16:26 |
| rburton | best start planning the post-OSS scotland mtb yocto ride out | 16:26 |
| RP | rburton: haha, yes! | 16:27 |
| * RP wonders how many yocto people would survive golfie | 16:27 | |
| rburton | lol not me does it have a blue | 16:28 |
| RP | rburton: haha, it is totally ungraded! | 16:28 |
| RP | there are maybe a couple of "red" trails, the rest are off piste black or yellows | 16:28 |
| RP | rburton: I'd love a trip there but glentress would probably be the saner option | 16:30 |
| rburton | yeah | 16:30 |
| RP | I could give a tour of all the trails that aren't on the map | 16:30 |
| rburton | i've gone down the one that was in an EWS and goes straight down to janets brae | 16:31 |
| rburton | i remember it being very steep :) | 16:31 |
| rburton | but that was a loooong time ago | 16:31 |
| RP | careless whisper? | 16:31 |
| RP | I like that one and it isn't that steep ;-) | 16:32 |
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| RP | for glentress it is probably top 10 I guess for steep | 16:32 |
| RP | the glentress blues are fun too though | 16:34 |
| rburton | not sure | 16:35 |
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| rburton | looking at strava i've done the blue and the red twice, really need to go back! | 16:35 |
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| RP | rburton: I'd love to join you, but you know that! :) | 16:38 |
| RP | there are the new trails there too now | 16:38 |
| colin-pm | Sign me up for the post-OSS ride 😁 | 16:39 |
| RP | hmm, 53 miles from glasgow | 16:40 |
| rburton | sorry colin you're not invited as you'll make me look even slower than i am | 16:40 |
| rburton | alternatively i hire an ebike and we put lead weights in colin's bag | 16:40 |
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| rburton | RP: <shrug> somewhere on https://www.strava.com/activities/155504585/ near the end is a steep off-piste (at the time, at least) | 16:42 |
| RP | rburton: you just did the short bit at the end of Dave's trail! You missed half the "fun" bits! | 16:43 |
| RP | rburton: fun fact, I have actually met Dave | 16:43 |
| RP | rburton: I was thinking you went to the dark side of the forest but you didn't | 16:44 |
| colin-pm | rburton: Don't worry, I've detrained plenty from my ride in Iceland | 16:44 |
| rburton | phew | 16:45 |
| RP | colin-pm: what kind of riding do you normally do? | 16:45 |
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| colin-pm | RP: Gravel is everywhere around here in the Midwest US, so I mostly ride that, but green/blue MTB trails are my favorite. | 16:47 |
| rburton | glentree blue is hella fun | 16:48 |
| colin-pm | How technical are the trails over there? | 16:50 |
| rburton | scotland can be pretty tech | 16:51 |
| RP | I was just looking at a video of repeat offender at golfie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkacK1O6RK8 - that is from 7 years ago so it is more erroded and tech now | 16:51 |
| rburton | i haven't ridden glentress for ~decade but the blue is smooth and flowy and makes you go wooop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFzNbCdLPKk | 16:51 |
| rburton | hmm scotish winter filth | 16:52 |
| RP | blue is flowy with avoidable features, if you can ride gravel you'd be fine on blue | 16:52 |
| RP | rburton: er, that is not muddy! | 16:52 |
| rburton | hehe yeah that's dry mud | 16:52 |
| RP | rburton: that top section is filled with 9" of water in winter | 16:53 |
| RP | this is why ross and I disagree on how often bike jackets need washing :) | 16:53 |
| RP | I do love repeat offender, it is gentle enough to be really good fun | 16:54 |
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| rburton | RP: man its almost been a decade since i went to BPW last! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIxT9dQDjF0 | 16:55 |
| RP | colin-pm: I've just got more and more tech over the years, don't be put off by that video, it is just the stuff I enjoy now | 16:56 |
| rburton | RP: (seek to 4:09) | 16:56 |
| colin-pm | Looks like fun, I don't ride DH very often. Hills that long are hard to come by unless I drive down to Arkansas. All we have locally is XC trails, which is what I prefer anyways. | 16:58 |
| RP | rburton: nice, I can remember some of the trails. I've only been there twice, long way from here | 16:58 |
| RP | colin-pm: they're not that common here, I'm just luck to live a couple of hours away | 16:58 |
| RP | rburton: I remember that video and the tutu :) | 16:59 |
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| RP | colin-pm: roads are too dangerous and the off road stuff locally is full of people walking dogs which love attacking me so I gravitated to the enduro type stuff | 17:00 |
| colin-pm | RP: Agreed, roads are even more fun in the US with F-550 Super Duties to look out for... | 17:02 |
| RP | colin-pm: UK roads are a bit overcrowded. I stopped road cycling after I watched a car nearly take out 10 riders in one go, then I had a trailer hit a pothole and throw a load of timber in front of me :/ | 17:04 |
| colin-pm | For the post-OSS ride, I was hoping the trails would be gentle enough to bring my gravel bike with a 40mm suspension fork. I don't have a bike bag that'll fit my full squish mtb | 17:04 |
| RP | colin-pm: the gravel bike would be fine on glentress blue and probably the red if you were careful with the small drops on it | 17:05 |
| RP | colin-pm: look for "berm baby berm" (blue) and "spooky woods" (red) for glentress | 17:05 |
| rburton | there's a hire at glentress is there not? | 17:05 |
| RP | there is | 17:05 |
| RP | I would love to golfie but it isn't practical | 17:06 |
| colin-pm | Dumb American question: What's "red"? | 17:06 |
| rburton | moderately tech but not actively trying to kill you | 17:06 |
| colin-pm | Is that like a grade between blue and black diamond? | 17:07 |
| rburton | yes | 17:07 |
| rburton | in europe green - blue - red - black | 17:07 |
| RP | (and then yellow) | 17:07 |
| colin-pm | Wow, we can't share any common measurement units, can we? | 17:07 |
| rburton | i'm surprised your trail measures are not done in football fields ;) | 17:08 |
| RP | it is based on ski grading I think | 17:08 |
| rburton | indeed | 17:08 |
| colin-pm | Ya, here we have green, blue, black, double black | 17:08 |
| RP | there is only one official double black in england | 17:09 |
| rburton | hm i wonder how they tend to compare | 17:11 |
| RP | rburton: the double black in kielder used to be a DH race track line which has had stone added to make it easier | 17:11 |
| * RP hasn't actually ridden it | 17:11 | |
| RP | The yellows vary a lot, there are some I can't ride and some I've found fine | 17:12 |
| colin-pm | I was going to say that "Reapeat Offender" looks like a black to me and "Berm Baby Berm" looks like a green, maybe green-blue. | 17:13 |
| RP | colin-pm: repeat offender is marked as a black on trailforks | 17:13 |
| RP | but forestry managed blacks vs. off piste unmanaged blacks are different beasts | 17:14 |
| RP | golfie sits somewhere in the middle, some of the trails are "managed" | 17:14 |
| rburton | i'd say UK greens are *normally* surfaced family trails for hybrid bikes | 17:15 |
| RP | yes, I've not ridden many so I wouldn't know! :) | 17:15 |
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| rburton | though coed notably has a green with a steep climb covered in tennisball-sided stones which was interesting... | 17:16 |
| RP | rburton: they could be house brick sized I guess | 17:16 |
| RP | "rocky horror show" at the naughty northumbrian is coming to mind | 17:17 |
| rburton | ok best go cook something | 17:17 |
| colin-pm | For reference, this is an "accessible" blue trail near me: https://youtu.be/HWKdIioj0Go | 17:17 |
| colin-pm | accessible meaning I can ride it without getting too gassed | 17:18 |
| RP | colin-pm: based on that I'd say blues are similar | 17:18 |
| rburton | agreed | 17:18 |
| RP | berm baby berm is quite smooth for a blue but it was clearly designed for the berms, it is good fun | 17:18 |
| colin-pm | Is there a color grade that's between green and blue? | 17:19 |
| rburton | nah | 17:21 |
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