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| aduskett | lol @ the mailing list with someone building on RHEL8 | 08:25 |
| aduskett | Docker works on RHEL8, use that to build :P | 08:25 |
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| aduskett | I agree with the post btw. RHEL 8 is ancient, and that leads to a whole other can of worms: Why does Yocto have to adhere to being compatible with any distro that is still supported? Does that mean SLES12 is supported as well as it's technically still getting updates from Suse? | 08:29 |
| aduskett | Especially with the advent of docker/podman. Keep RHEL8, fine, but mandate the use of docker | 08:30 |
| aduskett | s/docker/containers | 08:30 |
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| RP | aduskett: there are YP members who really want RHEL8 working :/ | 08:37 |
| aduskett | RP, "No" is a complete sentence :D | 08:41 |
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| RP | aduskett: How do I get paid? :/ | 08:43 |
| RP | It is a balance... | 08:43 |
| aduskett | RP, perhaps set 6.0 as the last version that supports RHEL8 natively? | 08:44 |
| RP | aduskett: it has been discussed, some of the member companies stepped up to help keep things going. As such, it remains for now | 08:47 |
| RP | telling people "just use docker" isn't what people expect from us | 08:48 |
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| HarishSadineni | Hi RP: Can we backport the Clang toolchain support patches for the kernel from master to Wrynose? | 09:03 |
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| RP | HarishSadineni: do they meet the requirements for stable backports? | 09:05 |
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| HarishSadineni | RP: clang support for kernel is feature and i think it doesn't falls under security/bugfixes. | 09:27 |
| HarishSadineni | RP:Wrynose already has Rust-in-kernel, and Rust-in-kernel on riscv64 requires the kernel to be built with Clang. So this patch is really enabling existing riscv64 Rust-in-kernel support rather than a standalone feature, checking if that qualifies as an exception case. | 09:27 |
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| rburton | aduskett: the fun thing with the rhel issue is that there are people who do builds inside modern containers on rhel8, so you have a modern userspace but ancient kernel | 09:43 |
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| RP | HarishSadineni: if it is just the SkipRecipe patch, that should be ok as it improves things for users and could be considered a bug fix | 09:44 |
| aduskett | rburton, oh yeah, I always forget containers don't load a new kernel. Hence the whole "not a vm" thing | 09:45 |
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| rburton | thus the systemd fun where new systemd requires a kernel newer than rhel8 has, but we run new systemd binaries natively on the host | 09:46 |
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| aduskett | Use a qemu wrapper lol | 09:46 |
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| aduskett | no wait, that wouldn't work either | 09:46 |
| aduskett | ugh | 09:46 |
| aduskett | RHEL8: unsupported. Reason: We don't wanna | 09:47 |
| RP | aduskett: we could put an emulation layer in pseudo ? :) | 09:54 |
| aduskett | RP, now that's talking! | 09:54 |
| HarishSadineni | RP: it's these patches "kernel-arch: Add clang toolchain support" & "kernel-yocto: Set CLANG_FLAGS for kernel config checks when using clang" https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=928d81916f6e3e30e486d63d92a02fd6dcb8a59b https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=e88ee794a3f75d7754fe0a3b3c14877c60e7401f | 09:59 |
| HarishSadineni | RP: If backporting isn't feasible, I'll instead send a patch to skip the recipe on riscv64 when KERNEL_FEATURES += rust is enabled for Wrynose. | 10:00 |
| RP | HarishSadineni: those are too invasive to backport IMO | 10:00 |
| RP | so yes, skipping riscv64 +rust for wrynose is probably the best we can do | 10:01 |
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