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| paulbarker | Morning | 07:25 |
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| aduskett | ugh | 07:30 |
| aduskett | paulbarker, good morning | 07:30 |
| aduskett | Also: Ugh. MUSL | 07:30 |
| aduskett | PERCHE MUSL! PERCHE! | 07:30 |
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| mckoan | good morning | 07:31 |
| Xogium | ewww, musl | 07:31 |
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| aduskett | yeah pretty much | 07:34 |
| aduskett | dnf5 broke with musl | 07:35 |
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| Ermine | ew | 08:14 |
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| LetoThe2nd | y'all sound very mondayish | 08:40 |
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| Xogium | yep, we sure do | 08:44 |
| Xogium | possibly because it is monday, which is a mondayish day | 08:44 |
| Xogium | :D | 08:44 |
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| yocton | To make it less mondayish, an obscure good news: the end of the UTC leap-second (at least for a few centuries) : https://www.bipm.org/en/cgpm-2026/resolution-5 | 08:58 |
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| aduskett | wooooo | 09:03 |
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| paulbarker | yocton: Much rejoicing! | 09:06 |
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| Xogium | what exactly does that mean? | 09:11 |
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| yocton | Xogium: UTC was designed to follow the earth rotation but that is a natural phenomenon that can vary over time. So, sometimes, it is necessary to add or remove a second to a UTC minutes to make the day match the earth. | 09:13 |
| Xogium | right, I remember that, vaguely | 09:13 |
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| yocton | Xogium: trouble is, the next variation should have been a second *removal* which has never happened. Nobody knows what would happen. | 09:17 |
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| Xogium | oh. Yeah. I can see why that could be a problem | 09:18 |
| Xogium | I mean hopefully it wouldn't be, but since noone knows... | 09:18 |
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| yocton | I tested it on a real-time project: it blew up, we put it aside | 09:19 |
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| Xogium | blew up eh? Oh dear | 09:20 |
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| Xogium | computers sure don't like it when we mess with time | 09:20 |
| yocton | We'll let our great-great-great-great-grand children and their AIs handle that | 09:20 |
| Xogium | right | 09:20 |
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| aduskett | I had a client contact me last friday because all of their devices started failing to connect to their grafana server. I hadn't heard from them in 6 years and they had never updated buildroot so the DNS kSK key change wrecked their devices lol | 09:21 |
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| Xogium | reminds me of a super weird firmware decision I saw in a project, few days back. The rtc/time keeping system can go up all the way to 2099, and not any higher than that. But the date picker in the ui, for some completely insane reason, can only go as high as year 2050. H have absolutely no idea why | 09:22 |
| Xogium | *I have | 09:22 |
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| Xogium | ... not updated in 6... Whyyyy | 09:23 |
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| yocton | Xogium: Reminds me of the fact the on iphones, the date picker is not infinite, just a long list :D (https://x.com/notsky/status/1962160670134444283) | 09:25 |
| Xogium | huh, that's interesting, I never noticed | 09:25 |
| Xogium | :D | 09:25 |
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| RP | reproducibilty tests changing buildarch are getting better | 11:20 |
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| paulg | ...says the guy being put on the Black Plague body cart in Monty Python. ;-) | 15:04 |
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| rburton | yocton: is the kernel 7.2.8 bump for meta-yocto-bsp/blacksail on your list? | 15:41 |
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| yocton | rburton: it's merged (?) | 15:43 |
| yocton | rburton: https://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-yocto/commit/?h=blacksail&id=d840b1c2bb30aac1153eadc9485482f074e62080 | 15:43 |
| rburton | huh | 15:43 |
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| rburton | ERROR: linux-yocto-7.2.8+git-r0 do_kernel_version_sanity_check: Package Version (7.2.8+git) does not match of kernel being built (7.2.6). | 15:44 |
| rburton | from a weekend build of genericarm64 | 15:44 |
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| rburton | i shall glare at that tomorrow, after meetings | 15:44 |
| yocton | The merge happened this morning | 15:44 |
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| rburton | ah! | 15:46 |
| rburton | fingers crossed then | 15:46 |
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| rburton | pipeline fired to verify, thanks | 15:47 |
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| tgamblin | has anyone considered tweaking AUH to work against layers beyond OE-core? | 18:01 |
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| tgamblin | I thought about doing it for meta-riscv recently, but I ran into a few different issues... first, the main kernel recipe inherits from linux-yocto.inc so gets blocked by RECIPE_NO_UPDATE_REASON, but overriding that in the recipe then leads it to do nothing without a maintainers.inc. Adding one "works", but then if there's overlap with oe-core there's a bitbake-diffsigs error. I wonder if it's worth improving it to handle these cases | 18:05 |
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| tgamblin | Submitted: https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16461 | 18:16 |
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| RP | tgamblin: we've used it against meta-oe iirc | 20:00 |
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