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| aduskett | Hear me out. How about, instead of embedded engineering, I build bikes for a living? :) | 08:24 |
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| mckoan | aduskett: I considered that a good idea many times LOL | 08:38 |
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| aduskett | mckoan, I think it's that or farming lol | 08:39 |
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| paulbarker | aduskett: I can see the appeal today. Bikes don't have critical PHP vulnerabilities or private keys with the value 4 | 08:41 |
| aduskett | paulbarker, lmfao | 08:42 |
| aduskett | paulbarker, My friend Angelo and I want to make "the framework laptops" of bikes, but with the absolute minimum of any electronics. | 08:42 |
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| yocton | aduskett: isn't the "absolute minimum" of electronics in a bike "no electronics"? | 08:47 |
| mcfrisk_ | not good with bikes either but have yet another torn to pieces, just like these boards and their kernels. it's all the same... | 08:47 |
| aduskett | yocton, not if battery assisted | 08:50 |
| aduskett | you need at least some form of charge indication | 08:50 |
| aduskett | mcfrisk_, kind of. Bike manufactures tend to change parts out after a year or two, usually by only a few mm. Just enough to make the old ones incompatible, and making their older bikes impossible to repair | 08:51 |
| mcfrisk_ | hub generators... AC vs DC and highway to hell.. | 08:52 |
| aduskett | exactly lol | 08:52 |
| mcfrisk_ | change parts, no availability, no support. Sounds like any board and kernel.. | 08:52 |
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| aduskett | lmao you right | 08:53 |
| aduskett | Hence the framework laptop of bikes | 08:54 |
| aduskett | We ant interchangeable and upgradable parts, we will open source all the cad files, etc etc | 08:54 |
| mcfrisk_ | more justification for 3d printer and laser cutter.. | 08:57 |
| mcfrisk_ | some might say they a bit too much for a bike hobby | 08:57 |
| agodard | aduskett: i'd buy that | 08:59 |
| aduskett | agodard, hell yeah! First customer! | 09:00 |
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| aduskett | My friend is actually taking lessons from the famous Dario Colombo of Bice Bicycles fame | 09:01 |
| aduskett | On how to build bike frames | 09:01 |
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| RP | the tech on pedal assist bikes changes so fast. Sadly mine is nearly obsolete already... | 09:35 |
| * rburton hugs his analogue bikes that use the latest spacings that are still a decade old now | 09:37 | |
| RP | my idea of a "fun mtb trail" has changed a lot over the years too | 09:37 |
| RP | rburton: you'd never explore golfie on that analogue though ;-) | 09:38 |
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| rburton | true, but any lack of power is always my fault ;) | 09:39 |
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| RP | rburton: but it isn't my fault if I forget to charge it? :) | 09:52 |
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| kanavin | paulbarker, you clearly aren't riding a road bike :) they have at least three or four firmwares that get regular vendor updates nowadays. | 11:15 |
| kanavin | power meter, electronic shifting, head unit (which is usually android driven) | 11:16 |
| kanavin | then there's talk of having smart wheels, radar sensors for safety, and who knows what. the industry is looking for new things to sell all the time. | 11:17 |
| kanavin | all software driven! | 11:17 |
| RP | kanavin: the number of batteries on the mountain bike is depressing | 11:24 |
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| kanavin | RP: yes, I have two charging connectors on my bike (power, shifting), plus the wahoo head unit. and front/back lights. | 11:25 |
| RP | (2 levers, main battery, dropper, mech, gps, then several more on the rider in the phone, HR sensor, watch) | 11:25 |
| RP | oh yes, and lights | 11:25 |
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| kanavin | it's worrying me a bit, a bicycle is supposed to work even when civilization has collapsed | 11:26 |
| RP | kanavin: it is scary... | 11:27 |
| RP | kanavin: being able to shift a mountain bike under full load uphill is also crazy | 11:29 |
| RP | ebike "uphill" too | 11:29 |
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| tgamblin | RP: the amount of tech on all that stuff is depressing. Our SUV has been in the shop for almost a week now because an OnStar module (which we don't want and have never used, but cannot be removed) is malfunctioning and draining the battery... | 13:56 |
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| tgamblin | apparently one needs an optional call-for-help module installed at all times to drive | 13:58 |
| tgamblin | even if you aren't paying for the subscription service to use it! | 13:58 |
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| Guest82 | Hi everyone, dues to security lapse in php, can I just just upgrade the php version and hash in my layer to 8.5.12, would it work? I'll appreciate your response | 14:19 |
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| Saur | Guest82: It may or may not work depending on the version of php you are currently using. We do this all the time in our layer when we want to upgrade the version of an upstream recipe. I recommend to use a versioned bbappend file to do the update. That way you get an error when the version of the upstream recipe is later updated and can act accordingly (either remove or update the bbappend). | 14:33 |
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| Guest82 | Saur I highly appreicate your response. I am on 6.0.4. Php is 8.5.11. Do you have me an example over github? | 14:36 |
| Saur | Sorry, no examples (private layer). | 14:37 |
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| Guest82 | Saur thank your very much | 14:39 |
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| RP | tgamblin: I have a discovery 4. It took them 2.5 months to change the ECU on it :/ | 16:23 |
| RP | The D4s were the peak of "multiple computers" in a car. They've tried to reduce them since then | 16:23 |
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| tgamblin | RP: ugh, that sounds awful. I'd prefer some 80s/90s car, but add: AC, backup camera, heated side mirrors, and basic bluetooth audio... but good luck getting a car that age that's in decent shape in Canada :( | 16:36 |
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| RP | tgamblin: Technically, I own a 1972 MGB. It is a different set of challenges. I say technically as it is in many pieces with the body on a rotisserie :/ | 16:39 |
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| AndersEstHeimer1 | Paul fixed "ca-certificates: Disable compromised CA certificates" on master this morning. This seems to be something we would want to the stables, does the stable maaintainers cherry pick patches like this or should I send a patch my self? | 17:17 |
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| paulbarker | AndersEstHeimer1: We have backports queued, thanks for the offer though! | 17:25 |
| paulbarker | AndersEstHeimer1: We have backports queued, thanks for the offer though! | 17:25 |
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| paulbarker | Will probably see what people's opinions are on the patch review call tomorrow morning regarding cherry-picking straight to the stable branches | 17:26 |
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| paulbarker | Yoann is away for a few days now but there are a few of us around who can apply patches | 17:26 |
| paulbarker | Yoann is away for a few days now but there are a few of us around who can apply patches | 17:26 |
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| AndersEstHeimer1 | Excellent, thank you Paul for the prompt reply! | 17:44 |
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| yocton | I've put the ca-cert commits at the start of the relevant review branches. Anyone who does not want to wait can use those. | 18:25 |
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| RP | AndersEstHeimer1: I did skip a bit of process with master, mainly as we're in a position to be able to take that risk right now. Stable branches can't do that as easily. The good news is master seems fine now I've run the tests :) | 21:18 |
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